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Can you believe that I uploaded a video containing ONLY The Pole Position music and that's perfectly fine but this video got hit with a copyright strike before it even went live due to the music being used at the ending comparison section!
So, unfortunately I had to reverse the music but if you'd like to hear the Pole Position theme here's a link to the other video I published -
• Pole Position - Main T...
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Yes, finally after 262 shows of Battle of the Ports I'm getting on to the classic Pole Position. This game has so many ports and quite a few emulated versions which we won't cover but even without those there's still 16 versions to see right here. Enjoy.
Time Code
00:27 - Arcade
02:08 - Atari 2600
03:08 - Atari 5200
04:23 - Atari 8 Bit home Computers
04:58 - PlayStation
06:15 - Gameboy Advance
07:19 - Nintendo 64
08:07 - Dreamcast
09:07 - ZX Spectrum
10:00 - BBC Micro
11:14 - Intellivision
12:07 - Commodore Vic-20
13:04 - Commodore 64
14:11 - Texas Instruments 99
15:08 - MS Dos
16:09 - Vectrex
17:16 - All versions side by side
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@kenwheeler3637
@kenwheeler3637 5 лет назад
The brakes for the Atari 5200 port are activated by pressing the upper left or right side buttons. The accelerator is either of the lower side buttons.
@RetroCore
@RetroCore 5 лет назад
bummer, I didn't know this. These buttons weren't mapped on the emulator. Thanks for the info.
@kenwheeler3637
@kenwheeler3637 5 лет назад
@@RetroCore No problem. Pole Position is one of the games where the 5200 analogue controller is perfect for.
@AmyraCarter
@AmyraCarter 5 лет назад
That's an odd configuration. Then again, I'm used to the thumbstick axis having forward/reverse being set to up/down.
@supermariofan772003
@supermariofan772003 5 лет назад
Pole Position's not supposed to have a brake button in the first place. Neither Pole Position 1 or 2 in the arcades have brakes. And really, you don't need them imo.
@riversarcadereview385
@riversarcadereview385 2 года назад
you beat me to it
@justanotheryoutubechannel
@justanotheryoutubechannel 5 лет назад
Holy crap that Atari 2600 port is incredible! I’m amassed they could pull of that racetrack effect with such little memory.
@luisreyes1963
@luisreyes1963 5 лет назад
It was a fun game. Played it many times at my cousin's house when they had the Atari 2600 years ago.
@Lightblue2222
@Lightblue2222 3 года назад
I just got my copy recently. It really plays nice. Best feeling racer on the system. Enduro is nice too but doesnt have that arcade track feel of needing to judge each corner differently.
@Lauren_Tyler
@Lauren_Tyler 4 месяца назад
Pole Position for the Atari 2600 was impressive. The sense of speed is absolutely amazing.
@SomeOrangeCat
@SomeOrangeCat 5 лет назад
That 2600 version fell comfortably into the category we Atari kids called "Close enough!"
@jesuszamora6949
@jesuszamora6949 5 лет назад
Plays well, really all that matters. Pole Position II on the 7800 is also bice.
@patbrown911
@patbrown911 5 лет назад
Enduro >>>>>>>>>>> any other Atari 2600 racing game
@Lightblue2222
@Lightblue2222 3 года назад
@@patbrown911 I would disagree. Enduro is fun and addictive but lacks the same arcade feel. For Enduro every turning corner is the same, while in Pole Position each corner of the track needs to be judged different to keep up the speed, giving you a sense of learning the track. Enduro is only about passing cars. Enduro you can pass more than 1 car at a time, but in Pole Postion the A.I. steer left to right, so it's a different challenge to get around them. Pole Position you lose speed by turning sharp. So for that top time it especially helps learning the track so you turn as least as possible. Enduro is more manic adrenaline, frantically passing cars quickly dodging left and right, and is more what I'd expect from 2600. Pole Position has a bit more depth in gameplay. The whether effects on Enduro are neat though. Thick snow makes it slower to turn. Night makes it harder to see, especially the fog sections which annoyingly reduce draw distance. But very clever stuff.
@pop2uno
@pop2uno 5 лет назад
I like the bgm, very "70s satanic lyrics in reverse". As always, thanks for the memories and cheers from México.
@SebasHCG
@SebasHCG 5 лет назад
this music is the opening of an anime called "pole position", a great cartoon opening song :) ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-n3-Ip5XpV18.html
@BlaximilianD00d
@BlaximilianD00d 5 лет назад
I find the vectrex to be an interesting system. Despite the lack of colors it still manages to look nice
@rafaellima83
@rafaellima83 5 лет назад
I've played in a real one and yes, it looks really nice.
@AmyraCarter
@AmyraCarter 5 лет назад
Fun Fact: The Vectrex is a double 4-bit system.
@philipthomas7536
@philipthomas7536 5 лет назад
I have this for my Vectrex and it looks a lot better with the colour overlay card.
@Lightblue2222
@Lightblue2222 3 года назад
The smooth scaling is incredible for a home system.
@CptJistuce
@CptJistuce Месяц назад
​@@Lightblue2222Scaling effects are super-easy on a vector display.
@fulgenzio1973
@fulgenzio1973 5 лет назад
Wow, the Vectrex port is amazing! What a great piece of hardware.
@geoserenity
@geoserenity 5 лет назад
Not to mention an unexpected version to see
@jesuszamora6949
@jesuszamora6949 5 лет назад
Dude, it's a shame the platform didn't take off, it looks gorgeous even in HD emulation.
@KISSbestfan
@KISSbestfan 5 лет назад
@@jesuszamora6949 vector graphics are not comparable to SD/HD, since you can resize vectors to any size you wish without quality loss
@jesuszamora6949
@jesuszamora6949 5 лет назад
@@KISSbestfan Oh I get that. What I mean is that even emulating in HD on a raster monitor looks great. Nothing will truly replace a real vector display, though, shame it didn't take off.
@Mayhemerz
@Mayhemerz 5 лет назад
Just a pity it was one of the last games released and thus is a bit tricky to find today, at least cheaply here.
@spahr001
@spahr001 5 лет назад
The best Pole Position I've played outside the arcade was the 2004 Jakks Pacific plug and play. It had a rotatable joystick that worked great.
@RetroCore
@RetroCore 5 лет назад
Someone else mentioned that. It's a shame I can't get hold of those here in Japan.
@pacmanfan6451
@pacmanfan6451 5 лет назад
Ms. Pac-Man 5-in-1 (the Jakks Plug And Play that you mentioned) is available on Mame and it runs fine. At the moment (at least with the latest Mame release), the sound cuts out in some areas, but it'll get fixed with a later release.
@monicamanzo8727
@monicamanzo8727 5 лет назад
Hahahaha it’s my fav game for the past 33 years. I play it every day. Never gets old
@solarflare9078
@solarflare9078 4 года назад
I remember having that. It's just a bloody shame I can never find it/get my hands on it again....
@sonicmario64
@sonicmario64 5 лет назад
One noticeable billboard that I remember catching my attention in the Nintendo 64 version of "Pole Position" (from "Namco Museum 64") is the one with Blinky The Red Ghost from the "Pac-Man" cartoon series saying "But Clyde!", which always made me chuckle, especially because I thought it was supposed to be a hot dog character of some sort until I learned about there being a cartoon show based on "Pac-Man". XD
@sumdood8563
@sumdood8563 5 лет назад
Imagine stepping into an F-1 car and having tons of fun driving around the race track Until you realize there aren’t any brakes.
@joshmartimez2235
@joshmartimez2235 5 лет назад
Played an original arcade cab of this game at a movie theater 20 years ago and loved every second of game play. I have the game on a Namco collection for ps2 but game play isn't the same due to having no steering wheel or pedal.
@reagandow850
@reagandow850 5 лет назад
Oh boy...those tires screeching bring back lots of memories. I had no idea there was a Vectrex port of this.
@liefacts3000
@liefacts3000 5 лет назад
Wow. The reverse intro sounds flipping ace.
@RetroCore
@RetroCore 5 лет назад
It also keeps the copyright holders at bay.
@elektrosoundwave
@elektrosoundwave 5 лет назад
Used to play this at the laundromat in the small town I grew up in. I also now have the theme song from the TV show stuck in my head
@stabarnak9841
@stabarnak9841 5 лет назад
thanks for the props to the vectrex version - my personal favoutite, that I still play few times a month...less so since I acquired Vector Patrol (Moon Patrol) - the first arcade port to vastly exceed the arcade version in visuals and gameplay.
@RedRanger2001
@RedRanger2001 2 года назад
The ones in the Namco Museum N64, Namco Museum CD, Namco Museum PS2, and Namco Museum 50th Anniversary are emulations of the PS1 version with added speech samples...
@bland9876
@bland9876 5 лет назад
The game that was on GameCube and Xbox and Playstation 2 and that was just called Namco Museum is also the same as the Gameboy Advanced Namco Museum and Pac-Man collection combined so the games play similarly including the fruit in Miss Pac-Man taking a different path when it bounces around
@ChaunceyGardener
@ChaunceyGardener 5 лет назад
Just for designing Pac-Man Iwatani can be considered a legend!
@RetroCore
@RetroCore 5 лет назад
He sure can be. He's right up there with the best of them IMO.
@jesuszamora6949
@jesuszamora6949 5 лет назад
Namco was blessed to have him, that's for sure.
@gingerdude94
@gingerdude94 5 лет назад
A very enjoyable trip down memory lane. Thanks.
@SockyNoob
@SockyNoob 2 года назад
The C64's tire squealing noise is adorable. Sounds like a mouse squeaking.
@apollosungod2819
@apollosungod2819 3 года назад
Namco's early 1980s arcade hardware and programmer teams were programming on dual CPU arcade boards which no doubt gave Sega the challenge to step their game up and develop the dual and triple CPU Super Scaler arcade boads... Also it's crazy how Namco was also first at making a dual CPU 3d polygon graphics arcade board in the late 1980s way ahead of Sega but Sega eventually caught up and just completely surpassed them in the 1990s with super expensive arcade board hardware like the Sega Hikaru, a quadrilateral polygon rendering monster.
@fwingebritson
@fwingebritson 5 лет назад
great video. It reminds me of why I never bothered with home consoles and stuck with the arcades until into the nineties.
@MVC2fan1
@MVC2fan1 4 года назад
I played the emulated version of this on the PS2.
@robbiereisman8954
@robbiereisman8954 5 лет назад
I remember as a kid I absolutely loved Pole Position. I thought it was so cool that I could "drive" for real on the arcade machine. In my view, the 2600 port is excellent for the hardware. I have it on my Vectrex and it is quite good. The Jakks Pacific plug 'n play version uses a cool steering control where you twist the joystick to simulate steering.
@SuperKokuJin916
@SuperKokuJin916 5 лет назад
The very first video game I ever played!! Early '85 as a happy 3 year-old who didn't understand the accelerator had to be held down to "go"; not just steer! LOL. It will always have a special place in my heart. The early Namco arcade music gives me all kinds of feels!! ☺ The blue Jakk's Pacific plug n play emulator console with the twisty knob (😳) controller was different but actually played great once you got used to it!! Good job on reversing the opening track!! You don't want the legendary Shuki Levy on your case. It still sounds GREAT!! 👍🏾
@RetroCore
@RetroCore 5 лет назад
I sure Shuki Levy would be cool :) He's a legend of our youth.
@THENAMEISQUICKMAN
@THENAMEISQUICKMAN Год назад
This game makes me nostalgic for the old 80s Fuji layout. 90s Fuji was largely unchanged, but the modern layout now has one of the worst final sectors I've ever seen on a race track, and I'm convinced it was designed so that nobody would ever be able to figure out how to take it properly.
@Colin_Ames
@Colin_Ames 5 лет назад
Another great video. Pole Position was the game I played more than any other in the arcades.
@RetroCore
@RetroCore 5 лет назад
That doesn't surprise me. It was everywhere back in the day. It's one of those Arcade games you were pretty much guaranteed to find when on holiday ☺️
@chrisdavis4292
@chrisdavis4292 5 лет назад
You also have to remember that Pole Position and Pole Position 2 were on the Namco Museum 50th Anniversary for the Playstation 2, Microsoft Xbox and Nintendo Gamecube. They both looked arcade perfect. It also has a virtual arcade with 80's music playing in the background.
@RetroCore
@RetroCore 5 лет назад
Those versions are Arcade emulation.
@OrionCrazyCarl
@OrionCrazyCarl 5 лет назад
I played this a lot at various holiday camps during the late 80s ! And 90s! Last time I remember was 1997 at pentewan sands in Cornwall ! This and the proper sit in cabinet version or hard drivin' rinsed all my holiday money ! Great video
@RetroCore
@RetroCore 5 лет назад
Wow, classic country side barns with arcades in them :) I remember as a teenager visiting some country pub with my family down in Devon. The pub had a barn and inside were all many of old arcade machines. Original cabs too. There was Space Invaders, Pacman, Star Wars and a few tabletop machines. None were switch on unfortunately.
@solarflare9078
@solarflare9078 5 лет назад
This is actually one of my favorite arcade games out there, and it was definitely a joy to play it with the wheel and pedals it came in. Imagine if Hamster released this on the Switch's Arcade Archives Collection with compatibility with the Joy-Con wheels. If it means having a(n) (emulated) port that can play almost exactly like the arcade, I'm all in for it.
@leefischer5814
@leefischer5814 5 лет назад
Gotta say I didn't think there were that many ports of Pole Position. I am pretty shocked and also surprised that they never ported it to the Master System or Famicom. Awesome episode as always 👍
@0000-i1z
@0000-i1z 5 лет назад
Yeah, even it’s spiritual successor Final Lap was released on Famicom.
@Clasiku
@Clasiku 5 лет назад
Ahh, I remember playing this after riding the Go-Karts. I always found myself liking this game A LOT and I think I got a high score as well.
@topofbones
@topofbones 5 лет назад
The scaling of the original system still impresses me. Lots of good ports from 8 to 128 bits.
@Lightblue2222
@Lightblue2222 3 года назад
I just recently added this to my 2600 collection. The gameplay is surprisingly good. Very playable is right! I was thinking the same thing when comparing video of the 5200 version. The 2600 plays smoother. Even the backgrounds scroll choppy on 5200 in comparison. I guess they went for graphics over gameplay. The computer cars have an upgraded look, and there are actually road signs now, but that doesnt make up for choppy gameplay. Great episode! Love all the comparisons.
@frankschneider6156
@frankschneider6156 5 лет назад
Who needs brakes ? We brake for nobody.
@johnleonard317
@johnleonard317 5 лет назад
Very cool video. Thanks for the analysis.
@RetroCore
@RetroCore 5 лет назад
You're welcome.
@TwinFamiProductionsOLD
@TwinFamiProductionsOLD 5 лет назад
For the 5200, there is a brake. You have to press one or both of the top controller buttons on either side
@williamwilson3526
@williamwilson3526 5 лет назад
0:20 That's A Lot Of Compilation
@DragonSlayerKyo
@DragonSlayerKyo 5 лет назад
That's always par the course for Atarisoft… They'd always put little effort into other ports to make their own in house releases look better. Though the Micro port is really impressive. I can forgive the slight choppiness, granted I don't think the Micro was ever designed to handle games like this.
@lordmaximus780
@lordmaximus780 4 года назад
I can't believe you just crushed my warm childhood recollection of Pole Position on the C64. It was amazing, to me! Still have the original game box and cassette. Ignorance is bliss I guess!
@RetroCore
@RetroCore 4 года назад
I'm afraid so. Over the years of making this series I've found so many games I loved to be awful.
@RetroGamePlayers
@RetroGamePlayers 5 лет назад
Awesome comparison, I remember playing the Atari 2600 version and thinking it was amazing
@RetroCore
@RetroCore 5 лет назад
Well, it plays well for that system. I can imagine being happy with it myself if I had it back in the day.
@jkajmo
@jkajmo 5 лет назад
Fun fact: Pole Position (arcade) is the 1st video game I've ever played in Poland (communist Poland so a game like this was very illegal)
@RetroCore
@RetroCore 5 лет назад
Cool. I can imagine it was quite a few years old by the time you could play it.
@jkajmo
@jkajmo 5 лет назад
@@RetroCore oh yeah :) it was in August of '87. I'll always remember that day because discovering such a thing as video games is one of the greatest moments of my life (and I actually had/have an amazing life of adventures so that should tell you just how much I LOVE video games) 4 months later for Xmas I received a Commodore 64 & my life changed for the best. "The Last Ninja" "The New Zealand Story" "Giana Sisters" & "Donald Duck's Playground" became the staples of my life.
@jkajmo
@jkajmo 5 лет назад
@@RetroCore Also, I totally love your awesome channel. New subscriber & I can't stop binge watching your videos, on repeat :)
@RetroCore
@RetroCore 5 лет назад
Thanks! I'm happy to hear you are enjoying the channel.
@luisemilio1143
@luisemilio1143 5 лет назад
I loved this video
@GuitarAnthony
@GuitarAnthony 5 лет назад
PREPARE TO QUALIFY!
@williamhowe1
@williamhowe1 5 лет назад
The next thing you'll also notice about the Atari 5200 is the fragile controller.
@l34052
@l34052 5 лет назад
When I was a kid this was state of the art lol, I loved my speccy. Thank the Lord for PCARS and Assetto Corsa😆😆
@IncaWarrior3000
@IncaWarrior3000 5 лет назад
I don't like Pole Position on the Atari, but I love Enduro . I recommend Enduro..... a very fun racing game from the Atari. I have Pole Position for the gameboy advance. Also I played the Arcade version... such a great game. Great video as always Retro Core.
@timpriddy349
@timpriddy349 5 лет назад
Damn shifter was always whacked on the arcade version, stuck in one gear
@gingataisen
@gingataisen 5 лет назад
We've come a long ways, people.
@RetroCore
@RetroCore 5 лет назад
That we have 😁
@forcedfeedbackclassicgamer5499
Very cool. Love Pole Position. Didn't even know about the Vectrex port.
@Tempora158
@Tempora158 5 лет назад
5:28 The Japanese version of the PS1 port does have the original Japanese voice sample. Highly likely Atari owns that "Prepare to qualify" voice clip and Namco's Japanese in-house dev couldn't be bothered to get an English speaking voice actor to record a new reading of the line as all the other console ports do contain a new recording of the line which, probably not coincidentally, were done in the United States. Except the GBA port, that seems to be using the Atari voice sample.
@RetroCore
@RetroCore 5 лет назад
Really? That's just lazy of Namco not to rerecord the voice samples for the western release.
@Lee_1971
@Lee_1971 5 лет назад
The amount of 10p's I slammed into that sit down version on holiday in Torquay in 1985 was criminal - wish I enjoyed the holiday a bit more!
@RetroCore
@RetroCore 5 лет назад
Torquay, man that brings back memories. We must have went there a few time as a kid. In fact a lot of those southern costal places were nice. I remember Exeter being another place we'd visit in summer.
@eds2011
@eds2011 4 года назад
And when I trying to play this game in my old atari 2600 this game in certain point of the game always crash. Seeing this video I almost crying because I remember all the good moments when I playing this fantastic game that I remember that times. Thank you :)
@NightSprinter
@NightSprinter 5 лет назад
I think the top fire button was the brake on the 5200? I know that version had Trak-Ball support, where you had the same opto-mechanical control as the arcade, but believe uses the keypad for gear control. Also, the PS1 version (and Pole Position II on Namco Museum Vol. 3) have support for analog controls via Namco's own "NeGCon" controller, which was originally meant for the Ridge Racer series.
@enigma776
@enigma776 5 лет назад
Had a Vectrex and had this game and you are right it plays absolutely great and looks fantastic with the overlay. Just a shame I don't have the Vectrex anymore, like most people it was sold once it started to collect dust and now regret it seeing as there a collectable now.
@rudycassiano
@rudycassiano 5 лет назад
Excelent video! Congrats and keep joy our souls.
@PeBoVision
@PeBoVision 3 года назад
it has been awhile since I've seen the Vectrex version without its overlay. Ir really is one of the best ports...not as good as Moon Patrol (which is actually better than the arcade versiom) but it plays well. When it comes to racing on a Vectrex though, nothing beats Hyper Chase for white knuckle speed. The Ti version like so many other ports, moves the car left and right rather than the road. Racing games always look and play better when the car stay centre screen...A friend had the 800XL version when I bought the TI Atarisoft version back in the day...made my friend laugh and me cry. But it is playable.
@iespostavid
@iespostavid 5 лет назад
2600 programming: I recently noticed in cornering that one side of the red/white track ends before the car graphic. (The red/white track could be programmed with missile0, missile1, or the ball object.) The Missile0 object (used here for one track side) will have the same top-down colors as the 8-bit wide sprite (Player0 - your car) IF it falls on the same horizontal scan lines. Ending it off screen before the race car is a brilliant trick. In the opposite turn direction it flips sides. Sometimes you can see a bit of black at the end closest to the player’s car. That’s the black of the player car’s front tire.
@iespostavid
@iespostavid 5 лет назад
I always thought the 2600 street gray was too light. I made a color hack with darker gray track, white center line (which makes white oncoming cars) and green mountains with purple back mountains. You can find it on AtariAge. atariage.com/forums/topic/225033-fixing-pole-position-and-enhanced-source-code/?p=2992264 Note: If the left zero on the speed bar isn’t a zero, that’s an Emulation bug just fixed in Stella 5.1.2 and later.
@RetroCore
@RetroCore 5 лет назад
Cool information there. Thanks for the insight.
@QuanAnhAnimationMM
@QuanAnhAnimationMM 3 месяца назад
i forgot to tell here, while Mass Media gone famous for Pole Position ports collection from PS1, N64, GBA and Dreamcast, Namco ported their arcade ports to Microsoft Windows 95/98/2000/ME as well under their pack, Microsoft Return Of Arcade (Pac-Man, Dig Dug and Galaxian are present with). it's 100% the same with arcade original
@justanotheryoutubechannel
@justanotheryoutubechannel 5 лет назад
I played a version of this game on an old iOS version. It was brilliant, it had way more features than the original arcade version. I wish I still had a copy of it, but the app’s been deleted and modern iOS wouldn’t support it anyway.
@bland9876
@bland9876 5 лет назад
One of the sad things about cell phones
@RetroCore
@RetroCore 5 лет назад
This doesn't really effect Android that much.
@BloggosPow
@BloggosPow 5 лет назад
Reversing the audio, very clever :D
@RetroCore
@RetroCore 5 лет назад
Yep. First I tried to remove it but RU-vid wouldn't allow that so I just deleted the original upload and uploaded a new version with reversed audio.
@BloggosPow
@BloggosPow 5 лет назад
@@RetroCore And it sounds recognisable too!
@riversarcadereview385
@riversarcadereview385 2 года назад
Vectrex reminds me of the game "Speed Freak"
@pcbjunkie1
@pcbjunkie1 5 лет назад
This arcade game took many of my coins (200 lire at that time) from me when I was a kid. It never got old. Sadly, playing it on a console was never the same experience. I'm really impressed by the Atari home computer port though.
@RetroCore
@RetroCore 5 лет назад
I think back in the day just being able to sit in a cockpit style arcade cabinet made the experience magical.
@DanielAyy
@DanielAyy 5 лет назад
I don't know why, but these early 80's episodes are great to watch while eating breakfast
@RetroCore
@RetroCore 5 лет назад
So much variety in the ports, maybe?
@DanielAyy
@DanielAyy 5 лет назад
@@RetroCore yeah, that sounds about right! Keep up the great work btw 👍
@ABlackFalcon
@ABlackFalcon 5 лет назад
The Atari 5200 version of this game is fantastic! It's a great port which plays extremely well, and is a standout game on the console. The analog joystick is perfect for this game so you get very good control of your car, and the two buttons for accelerate and brake (you really should fix that in the video, the 5200 has two buttons remember!) work well. This is one of the games that shows off the strengths of the 5200's analog joystick.
@hil1893
@hil1893 4 года назад
Damm, that arcade machine can display up to 3840 colors? Its more than the mega drive or the amiga which are hardware that relesed later.
@Charlie-Cat.
@Charlie-Cat. 5 лет назад
Hahaha. Do I really have to say anything about this timeless classic Mark? But I will say another great work as always kind sir. 8^) Anthony..
@losalfajoresok
@losalfajoresok 5 лет назад
I really would to see some homebrew port for the C64 using the power of the almighty breadbin!
@josemariapena4226
@josemariapena4226 6 месяцев назад
The zx spectrum is a very Nice port. Graphically for Spectrum is very good!!
@smallpaul2923
@smallpaul2923 5 лет назад
The gba did some great arcade ports. Outrun and super hang on are excellent on it.
@tomsuzyinfluencerinfj2712
@tomsuzyinfluencerinfj2712 5 лет назад
Indy 800 (Atari, Arcade, 1975), Indy 500 (Atari, 2600, 1977), first real race tracks
@RetroCore
@RetroCore 5 лет назад
I should have been clear. I was referring to Formula 1 tracks.
@wiredupretro
@wiredupretro 5 лет назад
The 5200 version offers brakes unlike what you had stated. Check the instruction manual. Also- the analog steering surpasses other home versions released at the time which were just digital controls.
@RetroArcadeGuy
@RetroArcadeGuy 3 года назад
You should have added a drum track to the reversed version, it sounds so sick it needs it! I like it, lol!
@pclinuxos_br
@pclinuxos_br 5 лет назад
I remember spending lots of quarters in this one...
@KISSbestfan
@KISSbestfan 5 лет назад
I havent had any idea that this game was ported into so many platforms. I was only familiar with C64 so far
@RetroCore
@RetroCore 5 лет назад
I was kind of surprised too. I'm also surprised that there are no Japanese computer ports.
@luisreyes1963
@luisreyes1963 5 лет назад
Only on the Japanese arcade version can you see real-life adverts on the sides of the race track, as well as the giant tire landmark.
@RetroCore
@RetroCore 5 лет назад
It's a shame they removed the ads from the western versions.
@solarflare9078
@solarflare9078 4 года назад
There's also a 2008 plug n play port that I just remembered. It's not the best port, as it's missing the sharper curve at the end, the engine note is changed, you can't turn as sharply as the arcade (but it still controls really well with the analog twisting joystick) among other things, but it's still a well playing port that I have a lot of nostalgia with when I was much younger.
@thefurthestmanfromhome1148
@thefurthestmanfromhome1148 4 года назад
No compromise for sake of cost was the statement from Atarisoft. C64 version on cartridge £24.99
@shotgunl
@shotgunl 5 лет назад
Pole Position is good, simple fun with graphics soooo smooth. I played a ton of the VCS version, but I think that's the only version I've played besides the Dreamcast Namco Museum version. However, a nearby gas station (Amoco) had a Pole Position 2 upright cabinet for about a decade, up until swapping it for a Mortal Kombat cabinet. So, I'm not sure whether or not I've played more Pole Position or Pole Position II, but I've certainly put more money into to the sequel. Ha!
@MVC2fan1
@MVC2fan1 5 лет назад
Did you know that there's a plug n play version of it? It was bundled with Mappy, Ms. Pac Man, Galaga, and Xevious.
@RetroCore
@RetroCore 5 лет назад
Yes but those Jack Pacific plug'n plays aren't available here. Still, no great loss since that will be just an arcade rom emulated.
@WrightOffsGaming
@WrightOffsGaming 5 лет назад
Great thanks Mark, you should try playing the PlayStation port with a negcon as it made it a lot of fun with near perfect cornering if I remember correctly.
@RetroCore
@RetroCore 5 лет назад
Somebody else mention that too. It seems Namco basically set up the controls to only work properly with the NeGcon. Kind of dumb when most people, even in Japan, never owned one. They should have at least gave two control options like most racing games do. One for digital and one for analogue.
@jesuszamora6949
@jesuszamora6949 5 лет назад
The 5200 joystick had a keypad like the Intellivision and ColecoVision. Also had more than one fire button IIRC. If I had to guess, the brakes are somewhere there.
@RetroCore
@RetroCore 5 лет назад
bummer, I didn't know this. These buttons weren't mapped on the emulator. Thanks for the info.
@jesuszamora6949
@jesuszamora6949 5 лет назад
@@RetroCore We're always down for another updated video. :P Seriously though, what emulator are you using?
@GarethMckittrick1980
@GarethMckittrick1980 5 лет назад
Yay I love these
@jaymzjulian
@jaymzjulian 5 лет назад
One note - a real atari 5200 actually has a two button controller, and the second button controls the brake. As an aside, it also supports analog controls via the trak-ball. Check out the manual: atariage.com/manual_html_page.php?SoftwareID=2091
@jaymzjulian
@jaymzjulian 5 лет назад
Also on the colours: That's what happens on a 5200 (and atari 8 bit) when you play a PAL rom on NTSC or an NTSC rom on PAL - this video has the correct colours: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-kdXNpEUT54o.html
@LillitosanEP
@LillitosanEP 5 лет назад
My top 3 ports for this game: Arcade, GBA and N64. Good job‼
@RAMCARTGAMER
@RAMCARTGAMER 5 лет назад
Arcade is not a port.
@solarflare9078
@solarflare9078 3 года назад
Random Pole Position FPS counter cuz I'm bored: Arcade: 60 FPS Atari 2600: 60 FPS Atari 5200: 60 FPS* Atari 400/800: 60 FPS* PlayStation: 30 FPS GBA: 30 FPS N64: 30 FPS Dreamcast: 60 FPS ZX Spectrum: 20 FPS BBC Micro: 60 FPS** Intellivision: 60 FPS? VIC-20: 12-15 FPS (probably why it's not very exciting?) C64: 60 FPS TI-99: 60 FPS** MS-DOS: 10 FPS Vectrex: 60 FPS *Background scrolls at 7.5 FPS **Uses choppy background swapping instead of actual scrolling, which is NOT tied to framerate
@dazsly
@dazsly 5 лет назад
Vectrex ftw
@thmalex
@thmalex 5 лет назад
The JAPANESE PS1 version comes with the voice.
@RetroCore
@RetroCore 5 лет назад
Strange how they removed it from the western release.
@thefurthestmanfromhome1148
@thefurthestmanfromhome1148 2 года назад
Graeme Devine was 16 and still at school when he did thr C64, Apple and ZX Spectrum Conversions for Atarisoft. He'd seen an advert from Atari UK took in a 3D demo he'd written and got asked to convert Pole Position for them They put pressure on him to finish it, so he ended up taking a week off school to finish it. This resulted him getting expelled, after he was honest with the headmaster as to his absence.
@RetroCore
@RetroCore 2 года назад
Oh man, that sucks.
@amerigocosta7452
@amerigocosta7452 5 лет назад
I'm no N64 (or graphics) expert but I believe the shaky car animation has to do with the usual bilinear filter / interlaced resolution the N64 is usually programmed to output. The difference with the Dreamcast sharp 240p output shown right after in the video is like night and day.
@RetroCore
@RetroCore 5 лет назад
That could be.
@SteigerHSV
@SteigerHSV 5 лет назад
imagine play this on arcade and then buy this for intelevision back home power on and see this... i would simple cry...
@RetroCore
@RetroCore 5 лет назад
To be fair, back then we knew the home versions would be nothing like the arcade game.
@ultramaster2o1studios53
@ultramaster2o1studios53 5 лет назад
Came here to see that Blinky billboard at 6:04
@MVC2fan1
@MVC2fan1 5 лет назад
I've played the GBA version in 2005.
@Y2G
@Y2G 5 лет назад
There's definitely something wrong with the Spectrum port in terms of slow down. It's approximately 3 seconds to 1 game second!
@ExtremeWreck
@ExtremeWreck 5 лет назад
Ok, this is already making it cool. If only there were a Sega Master System port made.
@ExtremeWreck
@ExtremeWreck 5 лет назад
@Peck Man Is it just like the MSX version?
@OM19_MO79
@OM19_MO79 5 лет назад
Pole Position on PS was designed to take advantage of the neGcon. Just like Ridge Racer and RR Revolution, it's almost unplayable with the digital controller. The Atari 8-bit version also has selectable tracks. Atari announced the PP II home versions around 1982, after the 2600 release, it even had ads in magazines, the 5200 and 8-bit probably were going to be PP II ports but Atari didn't use the name until the 7800 release. The 5200 was a rushed console, it is basically an Atari 8-bit computer, the major difference is the inclusion of the GTIA graphics chip, which added other video modes and extended pallete, most 5200 games are identical to the computer versions, most of the times, Atari just changed the pallete used or changed some graphics to use the GTIA modes instead of the CTIA modes. Atari must have changed to that horrible pallete just to make use of a GTIA mode.
@RetroCore
@RetroCore 5 лет назад
That's kind of a dumb move from Namco with the PlayStation port. I mean, how many people actually owned a neGcon? Bot many. Even over here in Japan it's seen as an obscure controller.
@OM19_MO79
@OM19_MO79 5 лет назад
They wanted their controller to be a standard, and it kinda work. In the US it's pretty common and Sony and others supported the controller up to GT 2, except SquareSoft in Chocobo Racing. I couldn't play PP and RR until I got that ASCII controller with a ball that has a neGcon compatible mode but couldn't get a pole position in PP until I got the neGcon.
@ennahh76
@ennahh76 5 лет назад
MS Dos’ engine sound is exactly the same as ZX Spectrums Chase HQ
@williamwilliam9993
@williamwilliam9993 3 года назад
The namco museum port replaces the goosyer or atari logo with a namco logo on the ship itself
@RetroCore
@RetroCore 3 года назад
That's how it should be. Only the US release has Atari on it.
@dallase1
@dallase1 5 лет назад
The DOS version looks like you are racing at dusk or it's getting ready to storm real bad.
@StRoRo
@StRoRo 5 лет назад
I had the C64 version back in the day and I could never understand the look of the cars. They dont look like F1 cars at all. They look more like the old formula vauxhall cars when they had no rear wing.
@RetroCore
@RetroCore 5 лет назад
Haha, that's so true.
@Gamevet
@Gamevet 5 лет назад
Pitstop is my Pole Position for the C64. Atari soft didn't do the Pole Position port justice.
@TheTurnipKing
@TheTurnipKing 5 лет назад
On the Speccy, in the early days, pretty much everyone had Chequered Flag so this poor port was more or less redundant
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