Or, you do what I did: spam Charge, do some damage with your partner while making sure not to trigger his second phase, and then end him with a clean 30-30 jump attack :V
@@ShycoWar I did that with Yoshi, I kept him hidden with Boo Sheets while Mario was using Badges that makes enemy attacks miss every so often, but then I unintentionally super guarded him while Mario was in front.😅 by the time that happened Yoshi could do 28-23 damage with Ground Pound, so I took advantage of that.
I got so angry the first three tries at fighting him, I turned the game off and took a break to cool off. I came back, practiced my super gaurds with the other toad, and was able to beat him first try. Your only two options with Mush is to either learn to super guard or go maximum cheese mode.
I abused Charge P, Quick Change, Lucky Day, Danger Tanking, Power Lift, and Power/Mega Rush (P) so that when Yoshi gave him the Six Shot Butt Bounce he took 20, 19, 18, 17, 16, 15. Killed him from full health, and I'm glad I cheesed him because once I looked up the kind of bullshit he pulls I wanted no part of it.
I love how the Tattle entry implies that Rawk Hawk knew damn well he couldn’t beat Prince Mush in a fair fight, so he used the poison cake trick that he tries on you
It's actually hinted earlier than that. There's a pair of fans of Rawk Hawk and Prince Mush arguing at the Glitz Pit, and the Mush fan accuses Rawk Hawk of having cheated with a poisoned cake, which foreshadows him trying the same trick on Mario during his climb up the ranks in the pit.
Rawk Hawk: No one can beat me! If anyone dares try to fight me, that opponent will be RAWWWKED! Prince Mush: Come again? Rawk Hawk: N-N-Nothing sir. You're the champion, not me, never me! Mario: You also lost against a me Mr. Rawk :) Rawk Hawk: Shut up Gonzales!
@@quintonblackburn3916 The freelance cameraman Lakitu also has a line saying that Rawk Hawk must be a nice guy since he gave Prince Mush a cake one time.
Actually, the poison in the cake wasn't enough to defeat him, and the only way to finish him was to use the powerful power of the Star Stone to banish him to another dimension.
@@mynnchloque1270 Also, The Crystal Star sucking Mush in wasn't Rawk's idea, but Grubba trying to silence him from uncovering a conspiracy in the Glitz Pit.
I wouldnt be surprised if Grubba made Rawk Hawk think of poisoning him too, honestly the fact that Mush alone got Grubba and Rawk Hawk so fucking scared speaks wonders If only I realized what Mush was truly capable of at that time... Pain
The fact that this fight exists and the fact that Intelligent Systems can still create inventive, player-testing fights in this battle system gives me a lot of hope for the future.
Not to downplay the new content (because it's great), but Prince Mush WAS cut content from the original game. So they weren't starting from scratch making the fight
@@itsmeikeI can't imagine them actually planning this exact fight for Mush at the time, to be completely honest, it doesn't seem like the kind of thing Nintendo would want to do at the time the game released. So they probably looked over what was previously planned and started brainstorming new ideas for previously cut content to give the really old and loyal fans something that they'd REALLY enjoy - challenging fights featuring characters that people had wanted to fight for ages. Granted, this is just me speculating. Without an interview or something, we'll probably never know.
One thing I love about Prince Mush and his theme is that the whole thing just feels like an intense duel between two best friends. Mario saved him during the main story, so now Mush is hella inspired and wants to thank Mario by way of a no-holds-barred fight. Even though his moves are totally intense, this theme is super-upbeat and devoid of any malice. It makes sense when you think about it; the difference between a friendly duel between friends and _best_ friends is that best friends take the gloves off and play for keeps every single time. Mutual respect and honor compel both sides to give it their all. Anything less is an affront to their friendship.
@@HumanOnEarth128 Forget Mush as a partner, make him the _star_ of his own game. He can take anyone and anything all by himself lmao. Failing, that, Prince Mush for the next Smash because yes
@@tyrayentali7041 And it fits the case of a Martial Arts Tournament perfectly as well. You get a perfect parry to knock the opponent off-balance and go for the jugular right afterward. Makes complete sense that his defense drops to 0 after a superguard. (might not actually be 0, this is a hypothetical statement, I haven't played the remake)
As a kid I always wanted to see how strong Prince Mush was since he was hyped up so much. I never thought I’d have so much fun getting thrashed by a toad.
"Oh cool they added a new fight" "Why does he have his own theme?" "WHY DOES HE HAVE 96 HP AND 6 DEFENCE" "WHY DID THAT COMBO ATTACK DO 110 DAMAGE" anyway this fight is great, 10/10
@@daridon2483 Yeah, that alone is crazy to see, but the mega kill you 5-hit combo move of zipping around at Mario is, uh...Intimidating just to see someone else to deal with. I am currently maybe nearly half way through Chapter 4. About to meet Doopliss for the first time in my first playthrough of the Switch Remake of TTYD, which I kinda consider initially "defeating" him (????? at the time) to be the half-way point, when it gives a Chapter Cleared fake-out. One thing I observed about the absurd Prince Mush boss fight that just...invents new ideas for official, core TTYD, is that when he is hoppy, you actually SHOULD jump, because he dodges grounded direct attacks like Mario's Hammer and a LOT of the Partner attacks, and when he isn't hopping but just has his arms/hands out in front of and behind him, oddly enough, that's when you want to attack straight on, not by air, for the first phase of the fight, it seems.
@@preyingshark4878 Hey, those Piders that some times shoot their projectile at you 3 times? Two of them in a row did that a time, and I Superguarded all 6 of them. I'm not incapable of it...
To be fair, from the original GC game it was implied that this specific Toad could kick ass when it is said that Rawk Hawk had to poison him with a poisoned cake to have a chance
@@MusSupremeJAR03 Indeed. But seeing that these last few Paper Mario games were over-loaded with Toads… Nintendo decided to give us a treat by having us fight one for the first time in the franchise’s history. Prince Mush is a beast in the lore, and the remake solidifies that idea.
@@cb8655In Paper Mario 64 you can fight a Super-Boss Toad (The Master). So it really isn’t the first time you can fight one in Paper Mario, Prince Mush is more so a sequel to that character from 64.
I’m a big fan of the “weak species becomes ridiculously strong through sheer martial prowess” trope, and by extension, Prince Mush. Badass theme for a badass boss.
Honestly, at least in my experience with Whacka, he’s not that hard if you go in with the right badges and the right strategy. I had several defensive badges equipped, which, combined with Power Lift, halved the damage I took from each Whacka Bump, so I beat him pretty easily without Superguarding. If you’re not increasing your defense and are taking full damage from each bump…then yeah, you might wanna learn to Superguard.
Koops' Shell Shield also makes a turn of Whacka's attacks completely safe for Mario, no matter how good of a Shell Shield you ended up getting. Can't use the same strategy for Mush to beat him, though.
@@killercroc99True but he could be protect her if he wants, he would also stomp Bowser like it was nothing. Prince Mush and the Master are the most powerful Toads for a reason.
@@questionmarkquestionmarkques Nah Prince mush's whole story was he only became a Glitz-ville fighter because his family was poor and he wanted to make good money to provide for them & I'm sure princess peach has more money then Glitz-ville
Every Race seems to have its own fighting style, like all koopas do shell tricks and all goombas do headbonks...so i guess all toads do super martial arts
He *is* the hardest fight, he’s the only boss that pretty much forces you to superguard. The fact he can do like 100 damage in a turn is insane. Also I’m pretty sure he is immune to like every status or atleast they didn’t work for me.
This may be the single hardest boss in the Paper Mario series, if you’re bad at super guarding, this fight is literally impossible, and also he deals like 100 damage in a single turn Bonetail was a complete joke in comparison
"Man when I romhack TTYD, I'm gonna make Prince Mush this awesome superhard boss fight! It's gonna have phases and he'll change stances and he'll punch the FP out of your face and go Super Saiyan 3 and his theme music's gonna be awesome!" Nintendo: "And you gotta superguard his attacks or you can't win, right?" "Yeah! ...wait what was that?" Nintendo: "I said that'll be 60 bucks please."
As soon as he brought out his final phase and hit an attack that dealt a whopping *24 FRICKIN’ DAMAGE,* my jaw _dropped._ …And then he continued hitting for an additional 5 extra times, probably well over 100 damage in total. This guy is out to KILL. What an insane superboss.
@@Dg-lp1vt Rawk Hawk: Okay, he's groggy from the poiosn. It should be easier to superg---" **Is still one hit KO'd** Grubba: I need a monster to clobba dat dair Prince Mush... I mean, time to use the Crystal Star.
“Hey there everybody, this is Mush, from thousands! Did you know, my favorite things are; jumping into 100 trials, stale life shrooms, new players with no experience, the latest season of Trivia quiz-off, aanndd fear. See ya in TTYD remake everybody.” - Prince Mush (probably)
People seem to forget that the only Toad boss in the series prior to this was The Master. Toads in the Paper Mario series are built different, since every single one we've seen fight, with the sole exception of Professor Toad (and probably another modern paper mario toad) has been one of the most powerful entities in their game. I went into the fight knowing that I was gonna get absolutely destroyed, and I've still yet to beat Prince Mush.
This is seriously some mid 2000s gameFAQs theory shit come true. This game man…I wouldn’t be a game dev if it weren’t for TTYD and to see it given so much love fills my heart up.
As a kid I DREAMED of a Prince Mush super boss fight. Seeing one actually happen nearly 15 years after I played the game for the first time is so beautiful. His animations, attacks, and difficulty level are EXACTLY what I had hoped for!
The fact that this mf has _six defense_ is honestly maybe my favorite part of the fight. If I'm not mistaken, literally the only other enemy in the first two games with that much defense was _Kent C. Koopa,_ and there it was meant to be this insurmountable hurdle you had to find a trick to get around. Here it's like... yeah, I've got _six defense. Deal with it._ I was actually kind of sad to find out that what I thought was "permanent Dodgy" was actually just me not knowing his stances yet LOL, thinking I just had to _deal with him having a random chance to dodge any attack_ made it that much more intimidating. It finally felt like TTYD was _daring me_ to kick its ass like I've done all these years, stacking every Power Plus and P-Up D-Down to just lay waste to everything, and they literally couldn't have picked a better character to be the face of that challenge than the mythical first champion we've wanted to fight for almost _twenty years._ What a _moment,_ experiencing this fight for the first time. the _second_ time, i superguarded him twice early on and took him out before he even got to ENTER his second phase. that was a little sad lmao
when I fought him it was like this nightmare of dodging every strategy I had in the best way possible, when he started dodging crystal star moves and trolls you if you try veil i was appalled lmao
In all fairness, his superguard timings on first phase are quite a bit more tricky to learn than the second phase ones, so even if you're actively trying to superguard you'll often just reach second phase anyway
I've begun to theorize that Prince Mush wasn't this strong before he was drained, but his revival through the Gold Star, responsible for Power Lift, which can boost your attack and defense, granted him power upon his rebirth. Basically, Prince Mush's body with the Gold Star's power.
I mean Prince Mush did also need Mario to save him. That was a pretty significant thing that happened. Like I understand where you’re coming from here but Mush very much did need Mario to save him.
@@ShinyGaara65 No no, Flower Fuzzies only *steal* FP. It's just being transferred. As far as we know, Prince Mush isn't using FP. So he's basically doing the equivalent of destroying energy.
When I saw that in Goombella’s tattle, I remembered that Rawk Hawk did in fact poison Prince Mush and wondered if there was a way to cheese the fight with a cake although I’m thankful there wasn’t such thing. It’s much more satisfying to beat him as it’s intended!
@mlpfanboy1701 Or the descendant of the Heroic Toad who helped defeat the Shadow Queen. Considering Prince Mush could probably hold his own against her if he had the Crystal Stars
During the scene in the final boss where everyone comes together to cheer Mario and the gang on, I was half-expecting Prince Mush to fucking instant transmission into the Shadow Palace and oneshot the Shadow Queen. "Hey, it looks like this Shadow Queen's giving you a lot of trouble, huh, Mario? That must mean she's really strong! Let me fight her!"
@@yoshifan3077 also his duplicating into three.. and then all three of them charge and attack in the same turn.. using all your life shrooms in one go... 😍
This is a FREAKING FANTASTIC final secret boss. When playing the original I always thought how cool it would be if we could challenge Prince Mush to a battle. NOW HERE WE ARE!
Look Man I was absolutely Floored I Had Just Beaten Chapter 5. and decided to revisit the Glitz Pit since I Usually do that In the original and Noticed that Now Prince Mush Was asking for a battle. And I was ecstatic So many Things That Ive wanted to do in the original Have come true in the remake. and this is one of them. I beat him first try but I thought I was screwed. I went into this fight completely unassuming. I first said lets use Power Lift. 4 Power and 3 Defense. Surely this battle should be easy now. I send in Admiral Bobbery and his Bomb does absolutely nothing. I was like "...What?" Then I take like 10 damage. to Admiral. I start getting worried. " Okay maybe Goombella's Bio will help me," I used Mario's Turn To switch partners to Goombella. I bio'd him. 96 HP 6 Attack 6 Defense. I stared at the screen for a couple minutes. in utter shock. "What in the world am I looking at" Although terrified I did not back down. I fought my way through. I did a boosted Power Jump and... Missed?. HE DODGED MY ATTACK?????? On his turn He changed fighting stance. Ok maybe now I can attack I used Power Jump again and... 3... damage??? Keep in mind I had, Jumpman and Two PowerPlus badges and was still In Power Lift even accounting his 6 defense I shouldve done more. Then he charged his attack. I started getting worried. I start Spamming Art Attack since that pierces Defense. Maybe I can wear him down and appeal with my partner to use Art Attack and Finish him off. He then Jump Kicked into Goombella and absolutely MURDERED HER. An Ultra Ranked Goombella one shot dead. What the hell did I get Myself into. There Goes 1 of 3 Life Shrooms I was saving for the Pit of 100. Then I start to wear him down. He one shots Mario. Life Shroom 2. Then wear him down a little more. He charges and attacks. Goombella is Down. Last Lifeshroom is gone. and he still has 44 HP Left. I use my Boo's Cape on Mario To prolonge my damage and get another Art Attack In. He's Close.... But so am I! He charges and takes aim at Goombella and kills her dead now with no Life Shroom to help. I thought I was done for but a dim light of hope shined upon me. Because I was In the battle for so long at this point I was practiced enough to be able to SuperGuard his attacks. And so his next air kick I SuperGuarded and Not only negated damage. But I realized something Incredible. No matter the stance He becomes vulnurable and his defense DROPS. I'm not out yet. With careful timing and a couple misses. I SuperGuarded My way to him having 6 HP left. He charged and I... Missed the Super Guard. It left Mario in Peril and his stance was in Dodge mode. If I miss again I'm D-E-A-D M-E-A-T. I appealed as a sort of last send off. And he charged and I struck. He was stunned. and I Power Jumped and Ended the spectacular Prince Mush. This was intense for more reasons than one. Growing Up I always wanted to Fight a Secret Fight with Mush in the original TTYD. And now not only is that here but I expirienced the whole spectical. The absolute Draining Fear that passed over me the second I saw the HP amount. The crushing anxiety when I saw him trample my characters and waste away My 3 Life Shrooms I didn't even intend needing until The Pit of 100. And the unforgettable Triumph When I defeated what was once only a fight I could dream of. This was absolutely one of my favorite additions in the remake Here's to hoping They added The thing I by farrrrrr wanted the most since I first played TTYD Play Luigi's Story ✌🏻
I HAD SUCH A SIMILAR EXPERIENCE IN THE "IM SCREWED" VALUE. Like I was always curious abt prince mush when I played the original, and I only found out he got his own battle because I was looking at the full ost on youtube, scrolling, scrolling, prince mus- PRINCE MUSH?? HUH? ☠so i binged the game for a two days straight to get to him. Starting off I pull out Goombella first turn w/ the quick change badge. And I'm like, well he's a TOAD. It can't be that bad. It CANT be that bad. I REALLY HAD TO DO A DOUBLE TAKE WITH THOSE STATS 😭 I was in this battle for half an hour only to lose in the end.. Starting off with jumping, like you, AND HE DODGED. I already knew it was over. Absolutely done screwed over. Everytime I try to attack, coincidentally his stance would let him dodge. He was immune to Vivian's fire, immune to Bobbery's explosions, immune to clockout and all other items. LIKE HUH? FYM? WHAT AM I SUPPOSED TO DO THEN? 😭 desperately latching onto sweet treat with my 10hp 10fp Mario.. I lost of course, however in another attempt, PRINCE MUSH DUPLICATES INTO THREE OF HIMSELF. They are NOT illusions, I had to beat all three. Didn't even get to think about it because he immediately took Koops out 3x in a row, all in one turn, using all three of my life shrooms, leaving Mario prone to absolute destruction. I can win in two turns now, but not without the permanent damage Prince Mush has left on my SOUL 😭
@@nintendodork64173It's so cool that you won like it's genuinely so awesome and I'm sure you're proud 😭 but yeah!! gotta say I was NOT on the lucky side of the stick.😬 I recently watched someones 100% of ttyd summarized, i think it was titled like "I 100%'d ttyd, here's what happened" but you can skip to the prince mush battle if you're curious, im like half certain this is the only other place I've seen Prince Mush's duplication. I could possibly be mistaken, but I'll edit this message if I am!😋😋
@@nessnessness666 I just looked It up and DAMN That looks awful Also I did not know that his side pose could still be attacked with Ground based damage I thought he was just invincible in that form!!!
@@nintendodork64173 That sounds terrible too 😭😭I was lucky enough to figure out everything about mush before my winning battle, but i literally had to throw absolutely everything at him to be educated 😭😭 the HORROR. To be honest I thought he was immune in the beginning too, took my heart and soul to figure out "oh hey jumpy means you can just pounce him without him sliding to the side, pacing means he cant just hop out of the way of your ground attacks" but I would 100% drop the game for a day if i sat there as long as i did thinking he was just completely utterly invincible 😭
Man such a DBZ story with Mush. Strongest mf ever. Super Saiyan. I guarantee you Mush only got absorbed because he pulled a Gohan and just wasn't paying attention
Okay, but like, can we talk about how this song has a _completely_ different vibe from basically everything else on the soundtrack? Almost nothing is immune to the "goofy-heroic" vibe of Paper Mario, _except this song._ If you're like me and you notice that sort of thing subconsciously, that makes stuff like this hit so much harder. I'm still of the opinion that Champion Lance's Theme from Pokemon is one of the best examples; you get there, and suddenly a completely different type of song starts up, and you're like "Oh, shit just got real, didn't it?" (And then if you're like little kid me, you get your ass kicked by his three freakin Dragonites.) This song is like that, except by merit of being the most unapologetically stereotypical "badass 90's AMV" song I've ever heard, which is very out of place in this game.
@@aaronTGP_3756Let's not forget that Prince Mush can deal 110 damage in one attack, which would probably be scaled up in TOK, in his second phase he is invincible against absolutely EVERY attack except superguarding, and the only enemy in all of Paper Mario other than Black Shy Guys who can just straight up dodge your attacks.
So Mush is finally gonna be fought, eh? I wonder what tricks he has up his shelves. On another note, his theme is absolutely epic! Among the best in the game already!
“Oh it’s okay, it doesn’t seem that complicated” Mush *Going into Super sayain and proceed to one shot me* Succeeding in this fight before chapter 7 is potentially the coolest thing I've done and incidentally the stupidest
Some of Mush's normal moves, specifically the one where he pump-fakes his fists back and forth, seem to be similar to the Master from Toad Town. We can assume he's a disciple of the Master, or hell, might even be related to him. Especially with the Super Saiyan-esque transformation and gold aura. And the Raging Demon.
You know what’s really ironic? Rawk Hawk is said to be a cheating coward who uses underhanded tricks to win. Prince Mush is said to be a squeaky-clean fighter who will come straight at you with no bullshit. Yet from a gameplay standpoint, it actually ends up being the opposite. Rawk Hawk is just a fair, ordinary boss fight that doesn’t throw anything particularly wild at the player. Meanwhile, Prince Mush is a superboss whose fight throws all sorts of crazy shit at you, from one-hit KO attacks to being forced to Superguard to win. Funny, huh?
@@theivoryguy2476 I don’t mean that his fight literally breaks game rules-it’s not like there’s an official TTYD rulebook stating what is and isn’t legal in a boss fight. I just mean that his fight uses a lot of very unusual and unorthodox mechanics and is pretty rigged against the player by default-again, by way of being able to KO you in one hit and forcing you to Superguard, which is a very tricky mechanic to master-forcing them to learn to adapt and use specific strategies in order to overcome the overwhelming odds.
'Finally, Shadow queen has been defeated, peace has returned, I can now finally search all the star pieces and relax' Prince Mush : Well yes but actually no.
I love when a boss theme just has that *post-game* sound that makes you immediately realise that curiously stumbling into the fight after beating chapter 4 is an absolute mistake
I feel like most people's first crack at this fight goes the same way... "Okay, he's definitely going to pull out some weird tricks on me." "Oh, okay, he can dodge my attacks, but only certain attacks based on his stance. I get it." "His defense is really high but I'm definitely whittling him down, there's *no way* I'm first trying this, he *has* to have something else up his sleeve." "Oh, he's not taking damage anymore." "Oh, he's not taking *any* damage anymore." "Oh, that's 125 hit points of damage *aaand that's Mario kissing the mat."* "Yeah, I knew that was coming. Good match, now lemme pick my teeth up off the floor and I'll be back for round 2."
I just beat him after finishing Chapter 6, I’m confident to say that this is THE hardest boss in the Paper Mario series. Regardless of your level, if you are bad at super guard, this fight is like impossible. And for better or for worse, you cannot cheese the 100 damage combo with Koops Shell Shield, Vivian Veil, Boo Sheet etc I’ve done Bonetail right after that and he was a cakewalk in comparison to Prince Mush.
THIS IS SO REAL like for most of my attempts at least, i used koops' shell shield, and for a while it was great.. AND? IT WAS ALMOST LIKE PRINCE MUSH LEARNED MY STRATEGY? BECAUSE ALL OF A SUDDEN, oh hey, im just gonna attack koops instead, or- "im just gonna charge up AND attack within the same turn :)" LIKE WHAT 😭I eventually had to just get like ten power rush badges from the pinata parlor and im now able to beat prince mush in two turns every time by placing koops shell shield (essentially sacrificing koops) and using power lift, then using power bounce in the next turn (if you cant power bounce, it's because the 4th and 8th jumps are off-time, and you need to hit them early to get full excellent power bounces) and this has been efficient.. but i absolutely could not imagine beating him w/o being disgustingly over-prepared within the first turn. I beat him right after receiving his email, but at what cost? 😭 (additional note, im doing an ALL-BP run so mario is at 10hp and i only have 10fp)
@@JacksonVoetAnd it's the most terrifying, nastiest, stomach churning, petrifying, abomination of them all... (Spoiler warning) A SMALL BLUEISH CUTE LITTLE MOLE LIKE THING. BE AFRAID. BE VERY AFRAID.
"its just a toad..how bad can it be" music starts: "oh shit" he powers up: "Oh Shit" he deals over 100 dmg in one Turn: "HOLY FUCK" ..... NEVER have i EVER received such a insane ass beating before in ANY mario game
