You forgot to mention forcing hundreds of thousands of Russians to stop doing productive work and go into internal exile. The Russian economy is a disaster area. This will be a bit of icing on the cake.
And capturing civilians and destroying Russian morale and brining the war of wasted resources and life home instead of of away. 3 Days to 3 years to your son dying to your husband dying. For.....?
Je découvre votre chaîne et je vous félicite pour votre analyse juste. L’Ukraine donc l’OTAN perdent cette guerre et ils ont beaucoup de mal à l’admettre. Il faut dire qu’il reste encore beaucoup de jeunes et bientôt de très jeunes ukrainiens à envoyer à la boucherie, pendant que les occidentaux prennent des bains de soleil.
I would be very worried if I were you, I mean that your intellectual capacity allows you to evaluate this channel as fair, that is really concerning at least it should be to you. This channel is openly and blindly biased towards Russia and against Ukraine and the entire West. But given the sentiment and subtext of your comment, you guys share some commonalities regarding certain grievances against the West. I think it is important to remain objective, unbiased and neutral. To leave emotions out as much as possible, while strengthening one's own sense of rationality, logic and morality. To finish it up, I'll give you just one example of this channel's openly biased position. Whenever he mentions Ukraine, he calls them either "The Ukraine" or directly as "The Borderland". Both are clearly a subtle way of denouncing and denying Ukraines national identity and sovereignty, as though it's just some land in the middle of nowhere with no distinct history, culture, nationality, statehood or language and therefore doesn't have any claim for sovereignty and self-governance, but at most to be a puppet of Russia or outright as part of Russian territory. There is nothing neutral, fair or objective about this, it's a clear attempt at denigrating Ukraine, while openly supporting Russia and its claims.
Je serais très inquiet si j'étais vous, je veux dire que votre capacité intellectuelle vous permet d'évaluer cette chaîne comme juste, c'est vraiment préoccupant du moins cela devrait l'être pour vous. Cette chaîne est ouvertement et aveuglément biaisée en faveur de la Russie, de l'Ukraine et de l'Occident tout entier. Mais compte tenu du sentiment et du sous-texte de votre commentaire, vous partagez certains points communs concernant certains griefs contre l'Occident. Je pense qu'il est important de rester objectif, impartial et neutre. Laisser les émotions de côté autant que possible, tout en renforçant son propre sens de la rationalité, de la logique et de la moralité. Pour terminer, je vais vous donner un exemple de la position ouvertement biaisée de cette chaîne. Chaque fois qu'il mentionne l'Ukraine, il l'appelle soit « L'Ukraine », soit directement « The Borderland ». Les deux sont clairement une façon subtile de dénoncer et de nier l'identité nationale et la souveraineté de l'Ukraine, comme s'il s'agissait simplement d'une terre au milieu de nulle part sans histoire, culture, nationalité, État ou langue distincte et n'avait donc aucune prétention à la souveraineté et à l'autonomie, mais tout au plus à être une marionnette de la Russie ou carrément une partie du territoire russe. Il n'y a rien de neutre, de juste ou d'objectif à cela, c'est une tentative claire de dénigrer l'Ukraine, tout en soutenant ouvertement la Russie et ses revendications.
@@Kenny-yl9pc From personal experience, I have exchanged comments with Ukrainians/ Ukrainian Supporters, those who are clearly not living inside Ukraine, I find to be arrogant, ALWAYS....DEMANDING ... MORE ! as if it is theirs RIGHT...to do so. Not a mention of "please or thank you" Only filling respective comments sections with their flag. Those who maybe living inside of Ukraine... AGGRESSIVE.
@@xp8969 Russia has not taken zaporizhia nuclear power plant as a bargaining chip, it has taken it as a Russian nuclear reactor that is on Russian territory
It's now 10,000 Ukrainian troops and falling in Kursk; 2,000 plus have been KIA. I don't think there's any bias on this channel; I think the Ukrainians ought to be listening to it for their own good.
As George Orwell’s celebrated line says , “speaking the truth in times of universal deceit is a revolutionary act,” which has special significance for the western world today. I know the truth is hard to swallow. But lies lead to the downfall and makes things worse.
Your military assessment is essentially correct but I would add that the 12K troops that the Ukrainians employed in the Kursk offensive impoverished their army in the Donbass of all real reserves in the face of the Russian offensives, giving the Russians not just the upper hand but an almost free hand in the Donbass and has opened the way for them there. BTW, this is essentially the exact same mistake that the German high command made on the exact same ground 81 years ago in the summer of 1943. By November of 1943 the Soviets were smashing through Kiev. As Shakespeare told us, What's past is prologue.
Russia has taken less territory in the past couple months than Ukraine has taken in the past week. This shows that Russia does not have the necessary reserves to relocate to other areas. Ukraine is still expanding and cementing their control of the Kursk Region. Also would like to point this out the Ukraine soldiers are providing humanitarian aid in the Kursk region.
@@mercifulterros5030they have over a million reserves, factories producing 50x times weapons , all saved for the coming war with NATO. Some of those are now in Iran and Lebanon
@@mercifulterros5030nonsense. As I type this the very opposite of everything you said is already occurring. But feel free to come back next week with more of your MCIC propaganda to look even more ridiculous.
@@mercifulterros5030Kursk region is poorly defended. Meanwhile Toretsk, New York, Chasiv Yard and settlements in Pokrovsk direction are heavily defended with a large network of trenches and fortifications. Kursk's advance is slowing down. What will happen after stop?
Accusing you of being pro-russian will not change the course of this conflict... Unfortunately for its population, Ukraine is losing badly and nothing except Russia 's own will can stop that from happening...
@@user-oe2cc3tc5t It took Germany some time to rebuild their population. Ukrainians are having a man power problem. They're a country of 38 million. Germany before the annexation of Austria was 68 million. Then 78 million with Austria and Sudetenland. It's a large difference in manpower. you look at their population charts. We can see that if this war keeps going on it will cause major problems for the future of Ukraine's workforce. Average age of a Ukrainian soldier is 43. They can't do this forever to protect their young population since the war has been so costly.
@@blubard6105 For sure, thats why I said it took Germany some time to rebuild their population. The statistics were pre war and aftermath of annexation of Austria and Sudetenland. Ukraine will have the same issues, if not worse.
@SurgicalCubes Difference is most Ukrainian people fled to Poland and took their wealth as well - In Germany there was nowhere to go and zero wealth. Ukrainian people will filter back and in time renazify Ukraine - which Russia also knows.
VOR, I'm American 🇺🇸 and i think you're very well balanced in your reporting. I'm 66. I personally lean towards the Ruskie side of this conf!ict for multiple reasons; Every morning @0500 I have my coffee and listen to Willie OAM & The Military Summary channels. One sane enough analysis from each side. Also Dan Davis and A!ex Mercouris. I think your very balanced friend❗(but I was USAF in the 70s so you might tink I have some brain ailment😂😂😜😁🇺🇸
I also watch the channels you mentioned and they're great. I would also suggest Judge Napolitano's "Judging Freedom" for excellent analysis on the Ukraine/Russia and isreal/Gaza conflicts. Lots of analysis by ex military, ex intelligence and ex diplomats with decades of experience. And yes, VOR's analysis on this conflict is excellent. He's been willing to change his assessments as the facts on the ground have changed, which definitely deserves praise because, sadly there are so many commentators/analysts who refuse to.
Zelenskyy Kursk misadventure already failed spectacularly, but due to his obsession with media hype he is simply incapable even to cut snowballing losses and as always he is just reinforcing the failure. It's the same nutty pattern as was with Bakhmut, Krinky or a publicly announced failed Zelenskyy offensive in 2023 . Zelenskyy is the gift that keeps on giving to the Russians advised by even nuttier DC gifts.
Snowballing losses have been accurring in Donbass for russia for very little gain for months now, with russia losing over 1k per day. Ukraine took more territory than russia has in the entire 2024 in a few days and exposed russias lies of maintaining a secure border.
@@_sergiu__ Capturing at such a staggering cost a string of villages in the middle of nowhere that can't be held makes zero military sense. Zelenskyy wasted so far 2,860 troops KIA, 317 armored vehicles, 28 artillery systems, 4 anti-aircraft systems on this another costly PR misadventure while vital Ukrainian positions at the actual front are crumbling.
Ah, the morality man. You never got back to me on whether the Soviet Union was on the same moral footing as the Nazi's who invaded them once they crossed the German border.
@@truthseekerodinson5094 your question never showed up in my feed, but yes, once you change from defender to attacker, you lose moral superiority. Ask yourself if it was morally right for the USA to attack and occupy Iraq after expelling them from Kuwait. I suppose you also believe the USA sanctions on Iraq that killed over 500 000 children would be morally correct too?
@@jeffhedrich3551 So that's a YES, that the Soviet Union was as bad as Nazi Germany after they crossed the German border? Let's just land that before you switch to the USA as a topic.
The difference is, Nazi Germany in its late stage had no other options then capitulation and complete surrender. Ukraine always could've chosen compromise and peace talks.
@@michelepappalardo4059 i found this on google: "The North Atlantic Fella Organization (NAFO, a play on NATO, the North Atlantic Treaty Organization) is an Internet meme and social media movement dedicated to countering Russian propaganda and disinformation about the 2022 Russian invasion of Ukraine. It has been categorised as a form of information warfare." Funny because NAFO fellas just spread their own propaganda.
What is happening in Ukraine is on scope and scale which NATO was not even able to imagine and has no answer to it. NATO has almost no ammo left, no artillerry , no tanks, no missilles to stand up Russia. Imagine, U. K. , or some people in U.K. want to fight Russia directly while only having 40(!) Chalanger tanks in working order :) Ridicul*us NATO is a paper tiger. Nato spent 2O years learning how to fight Afghan wedding parties and Iraqi villagers, because that is pretty much what NATO was doing. NATO forgot how to do a large scale ground combat. NATO even has no means to do large scale combat. China is there for Russia, Russia is there for China.... Who is there for USA? United Kingdom with their 40(!) Chalenger tanks in working order ??? Or Germany? Germany is not only 100% out of ammo, but on the top of that Germany was even bombed by USA!!!!(Nord Stream) Ridicul*us NATO, unfortunately still able to make the mess around the globe !!! Pay attention to the Houthis: If USA can not stop the Houthis, at what magical world are they living, that they believe they can fight Russia or China ? They can not even supply Ukraine with 155mm shells…
@@mlupi8720 Check me up. U.K. has just 40 Chalenger tanks in working order. That is a matter of fact, your words about thousands of tanks are meaningless. USA have more, but they can not use them against Russia anyway , because they know , that they would simply loose the war inside Ukraine.
@@baltazarakoufen2524correct, it is a temporary Russian defeat. But the Russians have a long and storied history of coming back after temporary defeat. I'm afraid the Ukrainians who survive this incursion will be on trains to Siberia before Christmas time.
Your synopsis is pure military logic and is a fair assessment of the situation! I fully agree with your summary . Particularly that they rolled the dice knowing the troops used couldn't stop the Russian advance in Donestk.
@@truthseekerodinson5094 Not even two weeks and the Washington Post saying Ukrainian troops surrounded in Kursk and will have to withdraw in next 48 hours! Shows how many people are so brainwashed and in a deluded state of mind! Anti Russian hysteria finished when Russia became independent and non Communist in 1995! 30 years later another generation gets brainwashed in even supporting fascist Ukrainian administration to attempt a plunder of Russia as its debt free and full of oil and gas!
You are doing a great job at delivering non-biased truths and facts. Don't let anyone side track you with their agenda of lies to distort facts on the ground.
I think you are analyzing objectively the situation. Ukraine is not able to defend its own territory even after the incursion in Russia. Ukraine will have to retreat in orderly manner if they cannot take the city of Kursk. I like your analysis. It is logic and no emotion 😊👍
"city of Kursk" HAHAHAHAHA... UA would require pretty much its entire remaining military to even have a CHANCE to TAKE that city. "80 settlements" Yeah, how about lolnope? There's been pretty solid tales by now that UA troops, much of the time they do not even ENTER the "villages" they're supposedly "capturing" by taking a selfie at the outskirts or while quickly passing through. All the evidence currently points towards the overwhelming majority of UA troops, being within 5km of the border. "have not achieved a very large victory" They haven't achieved ANY victory AFAIK. 20-40% casualties in the first week of operations, without reaching ANY goals is generally a grossly failed offensive operation. . And yeah, overall you're pretty much correct.
I remember a friend of mine talking about what the operations staff was saying about where the Germans would be stopped during the battle of the Bulge. The German aim was the Meuse River, but got nowhere close. The Operations estimate proved to be pretty much right on.
A lot of commentators, the more enlightened ones like yourself, have made the comparison of this Ukrainian offensive into Kursk region as similiar (in some ways) to General Robert E Lee's invasion of the North in the Summer of 1863 during the American Civil War. Except, of course, that General Lee had vastly greater forces (75,000 to the Union's 90,000), was not facing constant drone and missile attacks depleting his forces every inch they moved forward, and had a small chance of bringing the North/Union to the negotiating table if he did win a big battle on Northern soil. Of course the Union won the Battle of Gettysburg and that became the turning point for the Union in the American Civil War. Judging from the Russian military's response (basically as you so accurately stated, "lack of concern"), I would add that there was an even more accurate analogy regarding the Ukrainian Kursk offensive from the American Civil War, and that would be the Confederate offensive into Tennessee in the Fall and Winter of 1864 after the Fall of Atlanta. In September of 1864, Sherman succeeded in capturing Atlanta and burned it down in November, before embarking on his "March to the Sea"( I absolutely don't think the Russians would burn Pokrovsk, as their stated goal is to "liberate" that city in the name of the ethnic Russians and Separatists that live there. If anything, the Ukrainians would burn it down - though its doubtful that US advisors would allow that). The Confederate commander, General John Bell Hood, referred to by General Sherman as "Old Wooden Head", instead of trying to stop or slow down Sherman on his "March to the Sea" (March to Pokrovsk in Ukraine), inexplicably turned West from Atlanta, and began an attack hundreds of miles North into Tennessee toward Nashville. General Sherman at the time thought it was totally absurd when he famously stated: "If he [Hood] will go to the Ohio River, I'll give him rations. ... my business is down south." Well, Hood and his small Confederate Army continued northward for 250 miles, first getting decimated at the Battle of Franklin (the Union deliberately backed up, even though they seriously damaged Hood's Army), and then getting totally destroyed at the Battle of Nashville on December 16th, 1864. Hood's army was crushed, completely fell apart and ceased to be a functioning military unit after that battle. It appears that Russian General Gerasimov, and the field commander General Apti Alaudinov, seem to be looking at the Ukrainian offensive in Kursk EXACTLY as General Sherman looked at the November-December 1864 Confederate Offensive into Tennessee. They won't be too concerned about it, and they will just "lure" the Ukrainian forces in, let them advance 40 or 50 kilometers (maybe more), maybe even let them keep advancing even if the Ukrainians lose a few fights along the way. Then, when the Russian are well dug in closer to Kursk city, they will turn and counter the Ukrainians, surround them, and wipe them out. Let us hope the Ukrainians will have the sense to surrender. General John Bell Hood thought he was going to get a BIG PR VICTORY for the Confederacy with his "BOLD ATTACK", that might cause the Union to negotiate. Of course, the reality was that he had ZERO CHANCE of that. And it's exactly the same for the Ukrainians today in Kursk region, and the foolishness of it is really a tragedy for the men made to fight there. It will only increase the speed of the Russian capture of Pokrovsk in Donbass, while needlessly taking many of these men's lives in Kursk region. Budanov, the Ukrainian commander of the Kursk offensive, is the "Old Wooden Head" of the Ukrainian military. My only question to you though is that, while I understand that General John Bell Hood was from Texas, why would the US Army name an important Fort after such a bumbling and incompetent Commander? It was of course renamed Fort Cavazos only a year ago, but largely for "Woke" reasons - since Cavazos was the first Latino 4 star and the Army felt Confederate names had to go. But the US Army NEVER should have named an important Fort after a totally incompetent General. Oh well, I guess some time in the future Ukraine will have their "Fort Budanov", just as many Generals and Presidents who proved to be incompetent get rehabilitated.
Budanov is a sociopath, he hates people because he was bullied in military academy and only got his position due to his mom connections. Another commander is Sirsky - he is ethnic russian and his relatives living in Russia and Australia confirmed that he always disliked ukrainians, considered them low and cheating people, he hated the fact that he had to work with them in HQ. He was only there for his career, enjoying the luxury of visiting NATO countries and things like that. They really just dont care, the entire country is like a death cult at this point, being ran by "enlightened gurus" swimming in millions of dollars.
Very good analogy. One difference is that Ukraine is able to get military and economic life support from the west, while the confederacy was under blockade. Hood was honored along with other confederates as a result of the lost cause revisionism that prevailed in the first half of the 20th century. The most ridiculous is the carving of Jefferson Davis likeness into Stone Mountain.
Ya, pointed out Pokrovsk a year or so ago. Pointed out the roads that intersect at Pokrovsk, and that it looks kind of like Bastogne from the Battle of the Bulge weeks ago - except the outcome for ukraine won't be a happy ending.
No spinning. Ukraine still has some soldiers left and their wives and children are not yet widows and orphans. NATO is still not satisfied. Germany's conscience is still asleep. They may want to replay WWII.
Their Western aid is based on Frontline performance which was being questioned lately till kursk incursion which did meet Ukraine's objective of additional aid.
It's almost like clownesky had a dream of having his last few elite battalions, Not in a cauldron getting massacred. So instead of letting Russia create the cauldrons, he sent them to create their own!
I've been trying to study this war but find it very difficult to find "accurate" info. It's amazing how some channels are so hyped about Ukraine success. Of course, other channels pump Russian success. Its so easy to fall for all the propaganda that's out there. One channel that I occasionally visit is "The Enforcer". According to that channel, Ukraine is destroying everything Russia has. Whats really going on?
Really interesting analysis. I think I might add 1 more effect Kursk offensive has over the Ukrainian and over the Russian side. Thanks to that operation ukraine arms forces morale should be up and therefore conscription might be easier, on the flip side the russian conscription should be easier as well due to "defend the motherland". And of course, that offensive into the russian territory stopped the peace negotiations, which may be the main objective.
That was a thoughtful summary. Made more sense than, for example, the minute detail you find in Military Summary channel. The details of minor skirmishes is tedious and adds little to the understanding. Thanks.
Nato and the Ukraine are now experiencing operational and soon strategic defeat. This doesn't mean that the front will collapse any time soon, yet is the precursor to a failing of the lines and withdraw, desperate defensive mini counter attacks, and as the Fire Brigades are further weakened and lose combat capability. This is a compounding of retreat and loss of operational control by the Ukraine and Nato forces. While history does not repeat we can find examples of this in the defeat of the Axis forces by the Soviet Union as they drove West following the defeat of the Axis at Kursk and the later destruction of Army Group Center during operation Bragration. Hell hath no fury as Russia defending herself from a foe who has stated that the destruction of Russia is the goal.
Lets step back a moment here General and lets suppose the Mexican army, or cartel, not sure if there's a difference, suddenly came across our southern border and took over 400-500 sq km of southern Arizona or New Mexico and captured a few dozen small towns. You would probably say that's no big deal, right? I mean we're talking desert and cactus, not even farmland, okay? I would rather suppose that the U.S. would be rather pissed and on a monumental scale, fingers pointing all over the place, heads starting to roll, this couldn't be happening to us, etc. For some reason General you don't seem to fathom that Russians might not take such a casual view as you that the Ukrainians are sitting around Mother Russia despoiling their holy country regardless of what their feckless leader, or you, tells them.
My opinion is that for the Ukrainians, Donbass is lost. So everything that is sent there is lost. On the other hand, if you look at maps with fortifications, you will see that as soon as we leave the Russian-speaking Oblasts, there are no more fortifications, the next ones being right around Kiev. By occupying a few km2 of Russian territory, the Ukrainians can perhaps negotiate by leaving the Russian-speaking territories in the hands of the Russians and giving them back the Kursk region in exchange for the promise not to advance further than the Russian-speaking Oblasts, thus leaving Kyiv and Zelensky alone.
I am someone who believes peace is calling...and let's hope both Slavic peoples end this madness But I agree: what is the strategic benefit of the incursion? The Kursk Nuclear plant is out of reach...Sudja is the biggest town with 5000 people - a village...then what? There is nowhere to go in such a vast country...YES: Russia stuffed up and this must be seen as a tactical success...Why? Russia has long borders: what if a group of NATO countries did an incursion? That would be a different ball game...So may be this is good for Russia: A lesson not to eb forgotten by Gerasimov!!!
The main problem the Ukrainians face is they do not have an airforce. They are also inferior to the Russians in artillery and manpower. The ground they have captured is strategically insignificant. The only way the Ukrainians could breakthrough to Kursk, is if the Russian response to the Ukrainian offensive is totally incompetent. If the Ukrainians cannot pull some kind of rabbit out the hat, they are deep trouble, especially if try to hang on to the salient they have created in the Kursk strategic direction.
