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Battleship New Jersey's First Hull Leak 

Battleship New Jersey
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In this episode we're talking about the ship's first hull leak.
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@mlehky
@mlehky Год назад
Can you imagine trying to play hide and seek on the ship with Ryan.
@pjbth
@pjbth Год назад
You know what the largest game of hide and seek was 1437 people. I bet they could best that on the battleship!
@smokeyjoe4078
@smokeyjoe4078 Год назад
🤣🤣👌
@wheels-n-tires1846
@wheels-n-tires1846 Год назад
That sounds like about a month of fun...better pack a lunch or twelve!!
@adamdubin1276
@adamdubin1276 Год назад
Find the Curator sounds like it would take a very long time to play...
@scottcooper4391
@scottcooper4391 Год назад
You lose !! :)
@waynekoepke8128
@waynekoepke8128 Год назад
boy i wish the condenser on my old tin can DD 849 was that big it was a tight fit for me back in 1966 when i was 135 lbs
@geofffikar3417
@geofffikar3417 Год назад
Were you in Vietnam?
@waynekoepke8128
@waynekoepke8128 Год назад
@@geofffikar3417 yes but not on land
@steeltrap3800
@steeltrap3800 Год назад
Hi Ryan, another fantastic and entertaining video. Your willingness and interest in getting into all these unusual spaces is as heartwarming as it is informative and amusing; we learn so much from your excursions. With you and the rest of your team, it's clear the magnificent BB New Jersey is in loving and skilled hands. It's a long way from here in Australia, but I hope to be able to visit some day.
@chemech
@chemech Год назад
Note: The condensing turbine extracts the maximum heat from the steam as work applied to the turbine's shaft. In the process of condensing from vapor to liquid, the water has a much lower pressure than the steam - the molecules move much slower in the condensed phase, so they don't "push" so hard against the walls of the turbine housing. The condensate still needs to be cooled down in order to get it to the optimum / design condition of boiler feed water, and a heat exchanger is used for the purpose. It looks like the Iowa class battleships did not use condensing turbines, because that HX sure does look like a condenser as stated. Whether boiling or condensing, you want your vapor (steam) on the shell side, and your heat transfer fluid - flue gas for the boiler, cooling water for the condenser - on the tube side, because the steam has a much greater specific volume than the other fluid. That tube-sheet - where the tube ends communicate with the heads of the heat exchanger - is an interesting bit of engineering in and of itself.
@physicsphirst191
@physicsphirst191 Год назад
Perhaps stated a little more clearly, the condenser creates a low pressure on the exhaust side of the turbine, which creates a larger "delta p", or pressure difference, across the turbine (from the pressure side to the exhaust side), and therefore extracts more power from the steam.
@yanni2112
@yanni2112 Год назад
ran the Evaps on USS Tripoli
@richcruse2689
@richcruse2689 Год назад
Just a minor correction, you mention flue gas on the tubes. Sorry to disappoint, this ship and most navy boilers are Water Tube boilers.
@davepotanko5514
@davepotanko5514 Год назад
There is a big box under the low pressure turbine, it is under vacuum. He is standing in the saltwater side header ( the one you have to clean out after leaving Hong Kong) You cannot pump steam to a higher pressure than the steam operating pressure, it needs to be returned to condensate. (liquid is non compressible). Turbines run on superheated steam, it has no liquid in it at all. Liquid and turbine blades do not mix and will damage the turbine blades. Moisture carryover is immediate closure of the steam chest (throttle valve) and main engine stop valve emergency procedure in every case except battle stations or restricted maneuvering.
@Z-Bart
@Z-Bart Год назад
@@davepotanko5514 I worked with a Navy guy years ago. I'll never forget his Navy training for a main steam line leak drill. "Lay down you're dead".
@duradim1
@duradim1 Год назад
The hose thing doesn't really relieve the pressure down low. The pressure in the tube gets less and less the closer you get to the water level on the outside, but the pressure increases as you go lower.
@SheepInACart
@SheepInACart Год назад
Yep, if you stand a vertical pipe between the bottom of a swimming pool and the surface, no water flows out. Gravity works on the fluid in the pipe equally as it does that outside.
@matthewshapiro1676
@matthewshapiro1676 Год назад
Ok, glad to know I haven't lost my mind. I've been trying to wrap my head around his explanation, but it just doesn't jive with anything I've ever learned, and chemical engineering is *all* about the modeling of that sort of system.
@oldtugs
@oldtugs Год назад
@@matthewshapiro1676 Don't worry about it. Whoever suggested doing that and whoever agreed to it knows less about physics and marine engineering than the curator.
@Propelled
@Propelled Год назад
It’s a two part gate valve with space between the halves.
@matthewshapiro1676
@matthewshapiro1676 Год назад
@@Propelled huh?! The problem is water infiltrating through small imperfections. The external pressure on any spot on the hull is determined by depth. The driving force -- how quickly water will pass through, if at all -- is determined by the pressure differential between the two sides of the hull.
@Masada1911
@Masada1911 Год назад
Well, that certainly is a disconcerting title
@alexanderbrown4250
@alexanderbrown4250 Год назад
It's amazing to see "old" tech like this. I haven't been on an Iowa class ship, but I did tour the HMS Belfast. It's hard to imagine living on one of these ships. The firepower is amazing. I haven't seen 16" guns up close, but l toured the batteries on Corregidor, where the coastal guns were 12 inches, which seemed huge.
@ballisticarc
@ballisticarc Год назад
So... why not a high density plastic plug? Next drydocking, manufacture a tightly fitting plug to go into the seachest(s), seal it in place with marine adhesive, maybe put some kind of expander mechanism inside the plug to force it against the sides, then remove and grind off all the dissimilar metal from the blank. If the long term preservation problem is dissimilar metal corrosion, stop using metals where they touch water. The solution only has to stand up to static water pressure, possibly towing speeds, not high speed sailing stresses, and it only needs to last maybe twice the expected time until the next drydocking. This might be a dumb idea, but there must be an engineering reason why it's a dumb idea.
@revengencer_alf
@revengencer_alf Год назад
I can think of a couple challenges/drawbacks but I think it's a good idea worth at least considering. I mean it's not like DSC isn't a drawback for the metal plug in and of itself. Worth noting in general that a lot of the mothballing procedures were probably more short or medium term in mind. Corrosion only needed to outlast the initial anodes in their minds because it would either be reactivated or written off by the time they expired probably. Not to slight Navy, they do what makes sense for them, but it seems like a not-insignificant portion of r difficulties the ship faces tie to mothballing decisions that are more or less "museum unfriendly"
@bjornsmasher66
@bjornsmasher66 Год назад
its a terrifying idea that those holes, with a thin rusty metal plug, are an unknown distance away from a black abyss of water. even though youd probably fall out the bottom of the ship, my claustrophobia is acting up bad thinking about it.
@whirledpeaz5758
@whirledpeaz5758 Год назад
Then imagine the rotten dead sea life smell (rotten eggs due to H2S) when opening it up.
@jameskerns717
@jameskerns717 Год назад
In reality, the bigger risk is from a lack of oxygen due to it (potentially) being used up creating corrosion. There have been many confined space fatalities due to that in old ships / barges / tanks. Search for "Precious Time: The Cody McNolty Story | WorkSafeBC" for an example...
@walterbordett2023
@walterbordett2023 Год назад
Remember that nickel is ferromagnetic. This condenser shell might be some nickel iron alloy selected to be compatible with steam at high temperature and tolerate sea water. Those tubes are pretty small diameter. I guess Uncle Sam had lots of labor to punch them clear as needed. Thanks for the interesting videos.
@paulsotheron710
@paulsotheron710 Год назад
Another interesting insight into the workings of a battleship. What a job this fella has. Hope he doesn’t get stuck in one those tight spaces he gets into. 👍
@steves9905
@steves9905 Год назад
super fascinating and a little creepy...claustrophobic and knowing that you're standing in a place that would normally be full of water. hilarious ending too!
@mikeroberts8949
@mikeroberts8949 Год назад
Hahaha that was a 20 year old me on the USS Shreveport. We had to do some welding In the condenser on deployment. Someone accidentally opened the valve and it started to flood we had to throw our welder and grinders out of the manhole cover. That condenser looked way better for being much much older then on the Shreveport
@russellhltn1396
@russellhltn1396 Год назад
Keen in mind when crawling though those hatches the kids in WWII were a lot skinnier than they are now.
@RxTx88
@RxTx88 Год назад
Ryan S. is the man! Another absolutely fascinating video... Ive been caught on multiple occasions attempting to steal parts off his boat though! Last time Ryan himself caught me. I got away with a few items but it was largely a bust heist.
@GearheadCountryRadio
@GearheadCountryRadio Год назад
Great work , great episode
@SMOBY44
@SMOBY44 Год назад
Ryan, there's a good chance that condenser header is made from Inconel, an iron, copper, nickel alloy that is almost impervious to salt water corrosion.
@leehotspur9679
@leehotspur9679 Год назад
I have been involved with this materiel CuNifer as it It was the material used for ships seawater services we welded it with TIG
@georgeweisbrod1876
@georgeweisbrod1876 Год назад
The condition is called electrolist dthe reaction of disimiliar metals. Use of a softer metal such as lead is used as sacrifice piece such as to combat stainless steel shaft with brass prop. The lead being softer attracts the electrolist action and eats away the lead. Follows the easiest path to ground.
@OneAndOnlyJackSchitt
@OneAndOnlyJackSchitt Год назад
That looks like it could be a permit required confined space. And with those sacrificial anodes and visible rust, you might want to make sure you have a low-o2 alarm on you when going into something like this (or the anchor chain locker). That's the kind of space where all of the oxygen will get pulled out of the air by the rust and corrosion (leaving you with "air" which only has nitrogen and carbon dioxide). This can kill you pretty quick without you realizing it in the right conditions (like just randomly falling asleep). I noticed you seemed to be stumbling on your words a bit while in there which can be a sign of mild hypoxia. I did see what looked like a ventilation hose at the end of the video so I'm hoping there was a supply going to this area while you were working in it.
@operationscomputer1478
@operationscomputer1478 7 месяцев назад
good advice.
@chriscraven33
@chriscraven33 Год назад
WHERE HE IS IN THIS VIDEO COULD BE VERY DANGEROUS. DO NOT GO DOWN IN THESE SHIPS WITHOUT CHECKING THE AIR,,,, I WORKED on military ships for 22 years back in early 70's on WW2 ships that were still in service and it surprises me that this guy knows his stuff. Everything I learned about ship building is obsolete. In one year, every tool, press, rollers, instruments, shears, punch, laths,,,,gone,,,and should be, they were 75 years old when I first used them.
@staven512
@staven512 Год назад
When exploring these enclosed areas do you have to worry about air quality?
@shadoudirges
@shadoudirges Год назад
I definitely don't miss squeezing through hatches to access tanks normally filled with liquid for the purpose of inspection or refurbishment.
@nebr72
@nebr72 Год назад
Another fascinating video. Thanks!
@Politicianssuch
@Politicianssuch Год назад
Outstanding! TY
@Tomyironmane
@Tomyironmane 6 месяцев назад
Cupronickel alloys are ferrous, I have heard, and used in these kinds of places due to their corrosion resistance.
@charleschris4123
@charleschris4123 Год назад
I love how you use the rainbow color and corrosion together. Just gonna leave it right there
@adenbuford7396
@adenbuford7396 Год назад
Ryan, you need a confined space permit, have the atmosphere monitored by a portable gas tester for safety and have the confined space entrance staffed.
@HDSME
@HDSME 3 месяца назад
Those tubes are 10 times thicker then normal condensers wow! I leaned enough hvac ones to know the tubes weren't replaced properly because they Are not that many bad yet
@TyphoonVstrom
@TyphoonVstrom Год назад
The end of that condenser is welded plate. You can see the weld seams in it. The outside sure looks like some sort of bronze, but the magnetic properties of it....I wonder if it is stainless steel?
@johnbattista9519
@johnbattista9519 Год назад
Great video.. any chance of exploring the ships funnels?
@martypalmiere7672
@martypalmiere7672 Год назад
Could be wrong, but......I do believe you're on the discharge side, not the inlet which also has the main circ pump.
@sidekickbob7227
@sidekickbob7227 5 месяцев назад
Say I'm in a submarine, and I got a water leak into a air filled tank. To fix it, I "poorly" seal off the leak with a plug, and through the plug I put a bypass hose which I lead all the way up to the surface. Now the water pressure against the plug is removed, so the plug manage to keep it watertight . Yeah right... -Or did I miss something in your explanation?
@alwaysbearded1
@alwaysbearded1 Год назад
We just want to see you climb out of weird spaces. My guess is that tank is galvanized if it is silvery and magnetic. Or maybe tin plated.
@campkohler9131
@campkohler9131 Год назад
Galvanizing is coating with zinc, which is non-magnetic. And it is sacrificial like the billets above his head.
@DeFi_Tyranny
@DeFi_Tyranny 4 месяца назад
Incredible
@dirtfordaysdirtwillprotect9625
Great video.
@steeveomcjameson8673
@steeveomcjameson8673 5 месяцев назад
I have to deal with semi-confined spaces in a Tunnel Boring Machine (TBM ) But that’s too tight for me.. I’d be freakin out
@mrcmoes
@mrcmoes Год назад
If this steam engine works the same as other ships I've read about, the vaccume pulled by the condenser increases the engine power by haveing a push and a pull force in the cylinder every stroke.
@mikewalker4134
@mikewalker4134 Год назад
I would like to see the room where the hydro rams are that move the two rudders.
@TheCabult
@TheCabult Год назад
Make sure you keep the steel it is special and expensive. It is made before nukes were used. Special
@SnakebitSTI
@SnakebitSTI Год назад
What are the service intervals on that heat exchanger like? I can't imagine hot seawater is kind to the metal.
@stevelacker358
@stevelacker358 Год назад
Could the casting be nickel bronze instead of copper bronze? If the nickel percentage is high enough, a magnet would stick.
@holton345
@holton345 Год назад
@ 8:36 - Holy birth canal, Batman!
@ricksadler797
@ricksadler797 Год назад
Cool video thank you 🙏 🎉❤
@graemed8792
@graemed8792 Год назад
Do you ever worry about going into small non ventilated spaces? There are some horrible stories about people unbolting access covers and dying en mass inside because although there was air inside there wasnt any oxygen which is common for any sealed non-ventilated space
@BattleshipNewJersey
@BattleshipNewJersey Год назад
There are a series of safety precautions that don't make it into our videos, but the ship is very well ventilated, even in weird spaces like this one, the perks of being an inactive vessel.
@bobbenson6825
@bobbenson6825 Год назад
I don't know if that was a curator "springing" into existence as much as struggling to escape the ship. Or like the New Jersey was reluctant to stop hugging you.
@ponchoremerize5508
@ponchoremerize5508 Год назад
I'm interested in knowing which fuel the ship did the best on (Bunker A, Bunker B, and Bunker C Fuel Oil).
@richcruse2689
@richcruse2689 Год назад
Best in which way. They all had there positives and negatives. The navy has used DFM(F-76, bunker C) mostly since 1960’s or so. It is more refined and doesn’t clog up the boilers as much. As for fuel that is the cleanest, it’s JP-5, F-44. While it’s designed for aircraft, the boilers do run it sometimes, as well as the diesel engines. It’s more expensive but works great. If your asking how do I know, I was fuel king on a navy oiler for about 2 years. Responsible for all fuel onboard the ship.
@Propelled
@Propelled Год назад
Definitely DFM.
@edcollins6776
@edcollins6776 Год назад
I'm getting claustrophobia watching this one!
@aldenconsolver3428
@aldenconsolver3428 Год назад
Thanks guy, interesting to see that. Was the steam entering the condenser at higher pressure than the water in the condenser? Seems to me that if it was not then a leak in the sea water cooling pipes would add salt water to the steaming water and really mess things up fast.
@AnimeSunglasses
@AnimeSunglasses Год назад
...is there some kind of weekly staff meeting to track a betting pool of "Where will Ryan fit into next?"
@The_Engineer_Guy
@The_Engineer_Guy Год назад
Awesome video :)
@jeffreywoods4040
@jeffreywoods4040 Год назад
Come on, RU-vid - why isn’t this monetized?
@DIVeltro
@DIVeltro Год назад
Is there a video that goes over the use of the optical rangefinder? Like in the director?
@frankcherry3810
@frankcherry3810 Год назад
I have cleaned out boiler tubes before… and fire boxes. Tight space and dirty job
@adamhampshire9149
@adamhampshire9149 Год назад
Would love to see the boilers and steam turbines in a future video
@derikledford544
@derikledford544 Год назад
Why do I have the feeling that your cause of death is going to be getting into some place you can't get out of?
@PKIllinoisFIN
@PKIllinoisFIN Год назад
Sir, we have a mole in the ship!
@marybabiec
@marybabiec Год назад
Get her into dry dock for repairs Mary Babiec
@craigtreber4993
@craigtreber4993 Год назад
I wouldn’t crawl in there for all the whiskey in Ireland!!!!
@BronxBastard730
@BronxBastard730 Год назад
Well it had a good run , time to scuttle ...
@AsbestosMuffins
@AsbestosMuffins Год назад
its these engineering spaces that really reinforce the notion that a battleship isn't really a ship with big guns, but a giant armored machine to bring giant guns to the enemy
@177SCmaro
@177SCmaro Год назад
Yeah, the whole thing is basically a heavily armored oil fired power plant transporting huge guns around.
@RW4X4X3006
@RW4X4X3006 Год назад
And the crewman who worked down in the bowels of the machine were referred to as moles, according to my dad. You rarely saw them as they toiled down in their world. Once in a while, a deck hatch or lid would open, and they would climb out for some sun, fresh air and a view, while taking a break. My dad was a GM, usually working out in the open, topside - which had its disadvantages when in foul weather.
@aserta
@aserta Год назад
They raised a similar question in old Top Gear. Can a car be art? If it's to be called art, then it has to serve no purpose other than to exist (as art) to be looked at (as art). They presented a gorgeous car... that was shit on the road, but it looked pretty. So the question (similar) is is NJ a ship? Can battleships be classified as ships or are they merely transport means for guns? Well, it "sank" an island once, and did other things of equal notion, its main purposes are to store and deploy ammo in an orderly fashion... the comfort level was shit (for the most part). It's certainly not like a modern aircraft carrier... with its shops, sports areas and entertainment on deployment... it might just be guns with flotation means. But... she is pretty to look at, so there's that. At least by my reckoning, a good ship needs to be pretty to look at too, and you can't deny that she has some really nice lines.
@zackakai5173
@zackakai5173 Год назад
Yeah it's kind of crazy the more you delve into the details of all the engineering and living spaces, then you remember "oh yeah this is all just to move a couple guns around" 🤣
@jameskee2412
@jameskee2412 Год назад
​@@RW4X4X3006 Snipes is the word. Not sure where your dad got Mole, but we're called Snipes, there's a poem out there about us.
@chemech
@chemech Год назад
You ought to be able to find a scrap metal dealer with a Positive Material Identification (PMI) "gun" who would be willing to volunteer to identify some of the odd / unknown parts of the ship in return for a little acknowledgement in one of these videos. These are relatively small, handheld X-ray fluorescence analyzers, set up to identify metal alloys.
@SheepInACart
@SheepInACart Год назад
PMI systems can't tell carbon content ect, so won't really inform you of physical properties (such as hardness, further potential for hardening or electro-negitivity), only what saleable components you could get by melting a part down. Also most newer devices are optical emission, not xray.
@chemech
@chemech Год назад
@@SheepInACart Carbon content really only comes into play for weldability. I don't know what types of PMI equipment you're using, because the inspectors at my employer use them to determine which grade of stainless or alloy is being received on site for pressure vessels and piping, and those devices still use X-rays.
@LenKusov
@LenKusov Год назад
The shipyard most likely would've used some standard grade of steel for any part not specifically designed to be made of something special, so if you can figure out the metal alloy profile you can probably just compare it to the standard alloys in use at the time and see what it's supposed to be. I doubt that something like this would be made of some oddball one-off alloy when all it has to do is hold water.
@CS-zn6pp
@CS-zn6pp Год назад
@@LenKusov TBH, the spec life for these ships iirc was 8 years so I'm guessing they weren't that bothered what they used as long as they thought it would last 12 years minimum, spec life + 50%.
@piffofdrabbit
@piffofdrabbit Год назад
Materials/metallurgical engineer here! The newest handheld LIBS units can essentially identify every element on the table (within reason). They are getting quite fancy!
@CMDRSweeper
@CMDRSweeper Год назад
"So the water thinks this part of the ship is flooded... As much as water can think" Thank you Ryan! That remark put a smile on my face and made me giggle a bit, love that simplistic explanation!
@stromlo
@stromlo Год назад
You must have missed the part at 8:44 then :D Another fun one
@OverpaidSlacker
@OverpaidSlacker Год назад
Don't anthropomorphize inanimate objects. They hate it when you do that.
@bagel_deficient
@bagel_deficient Год назад
@@OverpaidSlacker When the engine in my car complains because it's very cold on start, I stroke the dashboard and tell it, it's ok. This makes it run better. When I do the same thing to a network switch serving 30 people, it immediately dies. I don't know where battleships fall on that spectrum, but I would like to believe they are closer to my car than the switch.
@benlawton5420
@benlawton5420 Год назад
It literally makes no sense as the water pressure on the weld would be exactly the same, they'd have the pressurise the room.
@xponen
@xponen Год назад
@@benlawton5420 maybe what he meant is the welded "plug" is actually filled with a pressurised fresh water that pushes away salt-water from contacting the weld. The weld is of different metal than the pipe, so they have to make sure no electrolytes (eg: salt-water) touches these 2 metals simultaneously, otherwise it creates a galvanic reaction (ie: battery) that cause either metal to corrode.
@alexduke5402
@alexduke5402 Год назад
Can you do a series "a day in the life of ____" a cook, a deck hand, engineer, Capitan, whatever it is. Maybe show us how their day went from wakeup till the end of their shift! That seems interesting
@SportyMabamba
@SportyMabamba Год назад
Also Day in the life of Museum Volunteer, Libby the camera operator and the Curator 😊
@yeetandskeet
@yeetandskeet Год назад
Crazy to me that a battleship can have hundreds of openings in the hull, a large ship I was on for a while only had 3 openings specifically to reduce the openings in the hull and help prevent flooding!
@ytlas3
@ytlas3 Год назад
I spent a lot of time under the New Jersey in drydock #1 back in 1987, and I only found four openings, one for each sea chest. Those were the only places I could stand up and stretch after walking hunched over between keel blocks
@studinthemaking
@studinthemaking Год назад
Which ship was that?
@Formulabruce
@Formulabruce Год назад
@@studinthemaking BB62 >> New Jersey he said...
@jakerazmataz852
@jakerazmataz852 Год назад
@@Formulabruce You are confused. Re read the statement.
@williamparker2922
@williamparker2922 Год назад
@@ytlas3 yeah i can agree. im a boat builder and one of the selling points of a sea chest is to limit the amount of holes through the hull. i can not see the new jersey having a hundred holes. four or five large sea chests sounds like more of a believable amount.
@gregorahler
@gregorahler Год назад
I love that it ends in a blooper reel I hope that becomes a thing
@kennethng8346
@kennethng8346 Год назад
Thanks, usually I stop watching when he does the state of New Jersey announcement
@shubinternet
@shubinternet Год назад
Doing a blooper reel at the end is a good way to get me to watch all the way to the end!
@toddr737
@toddr737 Год назад
You can tell that he is the kind of guy that you would want to sit down and have a drink with and talk for hours about anything, just a good guy
@jakerazmataz852
@jakerazmataz852 Год назад
He bitches and gripes a little, but he loves what he does. He may even be a volunteer. I'd love to do that.
@geoh7777
@geoh7777 Год назад
Alkies are always looking for someone to drink with.
@mikehenry9430
@mikehenry9430 Год назад
Spent many the night in CPO Mess speaking with Ryan about stuff like this. No booze, though.
@kingssuck06
@kingssuck06 Год назад
@@geoh7777 you probably think everyone that drinks more than you is an alcoholic
@pauloneil8531
@pauloneil8531 Год назад
No, in my experience if you are not talking about ships, he isn't that interesting. Worked with him from 2006 until 2015. He is a great guy.
@michaelfrank2266
@michaelfrank2266 Год назад
"This is how Battleship curators are born..." Love it Ryan. I flagged down the kids and showed them the curator coming out "fully formed." 🤣
@HamletTwin
@HamletTwin Год назад
Like Ace Ventura when he's trying to escape out of the decoy rhino 😂
@chrisburr999
@chrisburr999 Год назад
I especially like how the curators come out fully clothed and equipped as well.
@seatedliberty
@seatedliberty Год назад
Not possible- Ryan was born by sea section.
@dansengines2594
@dansengines2594 Год назад
@@chrisburr999 With a flashlight that is magnetic, quite handy when you making this journey.😄
@indridcold8433
@indridcold8433 Год назад
Such a beautiful moment captured on video.
@leomtk
@leomtk Год назад
Thanks for taking us to places not on the standard tour!
@GremlinSciences
@GremlinSciences Год назад
It's been a while since I was playing around with bronze and brass alloys, but I remember that both could be made magnetic through the addition of just trace amounts of iron _or nickel._ Magnetic brass/bronze alloys are typically still corrosion resistant and will usually simply develop a patina instead of ever rusting away.
@kayjay7780
@kayjay7780 10 месяцев назад
brass does not rust, I think he is talking about bi-metallic corrosion. Im deaf and no closed captions on this one.
@lonnyyoung4285
@lonnyyoung4285 Год назад
I would like to see some well lit "pits of death".
@eegles
@eegles Год назад
Would love to know if the Navy ordered a manganese-bronze tank but got a ferrous metal tank, and the manufacturer pocketed the difference.
@willausterman3104
@willausterman3104 Год назад
Might just be a poor alloy, Manganese bronze does contain some Iron. Somebody at the foundry may have added too much
@SG-bp4lg
@SG-bp4lg Год назад
Probably not since it was built during the height of WWII. Patriotism was at an all time high, along with the legal consequences and negative public perception that would come with trying to defraud the navy at the time.
@eegles
@eegles Год назад
@@SG-bp4lg That's also the time when fraud could be easiest. Government shoveling money into shipbuilding. Trying to slow things down for accountability could be attacked as slowing down the war effort. No one has time to take on bean counting. You get promoted by cranking out materiel, by greasing the wheels of war.
@ev6558
@ev6558 Год назад
@@SG-bp4lg Loads of people tried to cash in on the war by developing substandard products for the military, some of them even had enough friends in high places to get a contract and have them issued to troops. Helps to read a book instead of just making secondhand assumptions.
@charlesrowan4632
@charlesrowan4632 6 месяцев назад
Good idea to read a 📖. You know about what they say about assuming.
@ZGryphon
@ZGryphon Год назад
"Sacrificial Anodes" would be a good name for a band.
@nmccw3245
@nmccw3245 Год назад
As would “Galvanic Corrosion “.
@ZGryphon
@ZGryphon Год назад
@@nmccw3245 Alternately, that might be Sacrificial Anodes' first album.
@laa0fa502
@laa0fa502 Год назад
I play music with a group of guys I met while we were getting our material science degrees... you'll get credit on our first album
@jaysonlima7196
@jaysonlima7196 Год назад
Giving me flashbacks watching you crawl out of that condenser. I, being of relatively small stature ended up in all manner of places with small openings while I was in the Navy and none were quite as pleasant as that condenser. The nicest was the doing the annual corrosion inspection on the main induction sump (726 class SSBN) the worst was probably either SAN7 or SAN 9 on the same.... yuck
@wheels-n-tires1846
@wheels-n-tires1846 Год назад
I had the same fate when I was "borrowed" for some mainspace tiger teams!!! Being the lil guy is definitely NOT a blessing!!!😂🤣
@jaysonlima7196
@jaysonlima7196 Год назад
@@wheels-n-tires1846 no it is not, and 20 years ago I was definitely a little guy... 5'6" 130lbs, I was the smallest guy in my division... now however it would take all of them to het me through a man hole, is they used lots of grease and a chainfall or two... but hey I used to be travel size, now I'm value size 75% more product than the original 🙄
@wheels-n-tires1846
@wheels-n-tires1846 Год назад
@@jaysonlima7196 same..i was 5-11 and 145 haha. I ALWAYS got LilDude details!!! But id get passed over for them now!! 5-10 and 185!!🤣
@jaysonlima7196
@jaysonlima7196 Год назад
@@wheels-n-tires1846 doing better than me I'm 230 lbs but still 5'6
@richcruse2689
@richcruse2689 Год назад
I think it was San9. Been in both, I did gas free engineer @subbase Pearl at the end of my career. Loved doing the impulse tank on fast attacks also.
@agenericaccount3935
@agenericaccount3935 Год назад
Awesome episode. Did not expect Ryan to be birthed from a condenser
@cleverusername9369
@cleverusername9369 Год назад
That's where battleship museum curators come from
@loosh5101
@loosh5101 Год назад
Not even fully birthed and you could see a hint of "I'm getting too old for this" on his face.
@nitehawk86
@nitehawk86 Год назад
Yeah, I would have expected the 16" magazine.
@corystansbury
@corystansbury Год назад
Regarding the plugs, I know we have plugging margin built in for power plant heat exchangers. It's assumed in the beginning that some tubes will be plugged, so we overbuild them and then design with the plugged conditions. I assume they do the same on ships, but could also see a different approach because of space concerns. If we get towards end of life and start to run out of tubes, we'll sleeve tubes in order to nurse them along and that can work pretty well for certain failures. However, a sleeved tube isn't as effective as an original tube, so it's not a perfect answer.
@zeroone8800
@zeroone8800 Год назад
The tubes are constantly fouling and need to be periodically cleaned to improve performance. With tubes plugged the time between cleanings decreases.
@corystansbury
@corystansbury Год назад
@@zeroone8800 I assume these ships don't have the fancy, automatic condenser tube cleaning systems we equip on some plants, haha! (Smallest sailor!) I'd imagine that, depending on the fouling mechanism, plugging may actually help by increasing tube velocity.
@Mark-zi4dd
@Mark-zi4dd Год назад
I'd be willing to bet the top tubes were all plugged because they were leaking from being first to contact the condensate coming down from the turbine rather than from sea water corrosion. Condensate water is distilled water (with no metals dissolved in it) and the water wants things dissolved in it so it eats away at the first thing it sees.
@corystansbury
@corystansbury Год назад
@@Mark-zi4dd I imagine it's more the droplet impingement (why it's in the condenser, instead of another turbine stage) than chemistry. Chemistry shouldn't change much, top to bottom.
@zeroone8800
@zeroone8800 Год назад
@@corystansbury The corrosion comes from the seawater side not the condensate side. The chemistry is bad and changeable.
@Shadooe
@Shadooe Год назад
I see I'm not the only one, wondering, so I'll ask too (bang the pots and pans), what's the deal with the rainbow "corrosion" animation?
@BattleshipNewJersey
@BattleshipNewJersey Год назад
Just something we thought was funny. It's a thing we're going to do now.
@ΣτελιοςΠεππας
@ΣτελιοςΠεππας Год назад
You knew about regular corrosion. Now prepare for... *gay* *corrosion*
@tsm688
@tsm688 Год назад
they are attempting to birth a new meme.
@matthewbeasley7765
@matthewbeasley7765 Год назад
The steam going into the condenser would not be 800°F. In expanding and doing work, heat is removed from the steam and converted to work. By the time the steam leaves the turbine, it is close to 120°F. Due to the low pressure, it is still steam at that low temperature. For maximum efficiency, the goal isn't to cool the steam at all. It is to just remove the latent heat and convert it to water. Cooling the water further just wastes heat. Also, cool water has higher solubility for oxygen which is bad for the boilers. If you note the gap with no tubes down the middle of the condenser, that is for steam from the turbine to get below the tube bundle. The falling water leaving the tubes will then travel through the steam and re-warm back to the steam temperature while condensing more steam. Doing that helps the efficiency and with the oxygen level in the feed water.
@erich9111
@erich9111 Год назад
Thanks for the useful information. Water boils at 212 degrees F at atmospheric pressure, is the pressure of the spent steam actually lower than atmospheric?
@KPen3750
@KPen3750 Год назад
@@erich9111 Sort of. a vacuum is always maintained in the condenser not just to suck the steam out of the turbine (pressure difference, a gas at high pressure will flow to an area of lower pressure), but it also ensures that the steam doesn't just boil the salt water in the tubes and further corrode them. This is achieved with the use of an Air Ejector in each engine room. I learned this from a MM on a sub although I am struggling to fully remember what he said, in essence, the vacuum helps draw out some of the oxygen and other gases, ensures the steam flows through the condenser, and something to do with the boiling point of the salt water in the tubes, I know lower pressure lower boiling point, but I will say there might be a piece I'm missing or just flat out not remembering
@andrewhall2554
@andrewhall2554 Год назад
​@@KPen3750 The vacuum in the condenser is mostly created by condensing the steam. And it is surprising how close to a "perfect" vacuum a good condenser can acheive. However, after the steam is condensed into water, there are always some "non-condensible" gases present and these have to be pumped out in order to maintain the vacuum otherwise the condenser becomes "air bound" and has trouble producing a vacuum. The vacuum present at the turbine outlet increases the power output of the turbine because it increases the pressure drop across the turbine. This is like increasing the inlet pressure of the turbine but without having to raise the boiler pressure. The condenser vacuum also increases the turbine efficiency. Another big advantage to having a condenser is that the condensed water can be returned to the boilers again as feed water. This saves having to carry or generate all the feed water required by the boilers.
@largesleepermadness6648
@largesleepermadness6648 Год назад
Think of this, half full ,warm water in a plastic bottle with the cap on. Throw it in the refrigerator, watch what happens to the bottle. Same thing happens in a steam condenser. It creates a vacuum. The air ejectors are used to create initial vacuum and are mainly there to remove non condensable gases. The natural effect of condensation creates a vacuum.
@matthewbeasley7765
@matthewbeasley7765 Год назад
@@erich9111 It is significantly below atmospheric. The pressure is around 1-2 PSI absolute, depending on the water temperature. The energy in the steam from atmospheric pressure to the condenser represents a sizable portion of the energy in the steam. This is due to the fact that the volume is so high as it expands down to such a low pressure.
@MrRocketDad
@MrRocketDad Год назад
This is the second video I've seen with the "word from our sponsors" cue and no sponsorship message. Is that deliberate?
@455buick6
@455buick6 Год назад
The sponsors were not above board and were done away with
@mikemissel7785
@mikemissel7785 Год назад
Ryan you are showing the discharge side on the inlet side has scoop injection along with main circ pump. We used the circ pump in port and sea and anchor details and when we where under a certain speed.
@bigsarge2085
@bigsarge2085 Год назад
One curator thick, hahaha!
@outlaw686
@outlaw686 Год назад
Ryan I've enjoyed your series for over a year. Amazing ship we have nothing like it here in Canada. I'm so impressed with your knowledge. I hope one day I get to see the ship, the engineering is just mind boggling and I feel like the camera just doesn't capture the scale or how solid some things are. The New Jersey must be a world of her own. Thank you for being so awesome.
@yes_head
@yes_head Год назад
What's crazy to me is that nations like the USA or Great Britain built these humongous vessels, knowing full well that sending them into war meant they might be destroyed. But hey, no worries. We'll just build more. The amount of national treasure and resources on the line is mind boggling.
@olliefoxx7165
@olliefoxx7165 Год назад
@@yes_head Indeed. Huge, complicated works of engineering wonders built by thousands of trained men that took many years. They sent them off with their numerous highly trained crews to do battle in places far away. Some of those extremely expensive war machines never came back. Some came back heavy damaged needing repairs by highly trained experts. What magnificent marvels they were/are. I don't see how anything could withstand the blasting of those huge guns, lethal torpedoes or bombs but they built them tough, just like the men that sailed and fought her. Amazing.
@ianpartrick8347
@ianpartrick8347 Год назад
You should check out the HMCS Haida, who is still floating as a museum today! She's currently berthed in Hamilton, Ontario. She's only a destroyer, but she's got a rich history of her own.
@EDKguy
@EDKguy Год назад
That area has very nice acoustic ambiance. Please in the future record all voiceovers in this aeea. Your welcome.
@jaybee9269
@jaybee9269 Год назад
Who else what totally taken off guard by the size of the condenser?!
@geofffikar3417
@geofffikar3417 Год назад
I didn't expect to see him in that huge room after squeezing through that pipe, wow!
@stanmckenzie4490
@stanmckenzie4490 Год назад
I really appreciate how you had a sponsor from a scam company what you previously worked with, but since learning what they are pulled the ads (in the last bunch of videos). Also, quality of the content is great.
@jasonvitale5911
@jasonvitale5911 Год назад
Which company was that?
@MartysRandomStuff
@MartysRandomStuff Год назад
@@jasonvitale5911 Fake titles and fake knives. Well, they are real knives but advertised as expensive high quality ones when they are using the same steel as $20 knives. But the lord and lady titles really are fake.
@Vile-Flesh
@Vile-Flesh Год назад
@@MartysRandomStuff Oh wow! I didn't know about that. I was wondering why the ad wouldn't show in the last few vids.
@jasonvitale5911
@jasonvitale5911 Год назад
@@MartysRandomStuff ah I see
@idv1328
@idv1328 Год назад
I got the feeling that Established Titles is done!
@dave4882
@dave4882 Год назад
Get a small air compressor. Attach it to the hose you have on that plug. Fill the sea chest with air so that it bubbles out of the bottom of the hull. Then set it up to have a very small flow into the sea chest from now on(or a very accurate super low pressure regulator will work if set up right). The compressor will have to run occasionally. That way you have no salt water in the sea chest, and no salt water corrosion. A dry nitrogen or argon source would be better, but harder to acquire.
@SeanBZA
@SeanBZA Год назад
Nitrogen and regulators for it are common, just need to go to any welding supplies store, though you then need to run the air line down, as otherwise you will be humping heavy cylinders of gas down. Easier to just get a roll of nylon (not polyurethane, that ages badly) tubing for pneumatic use, probably 12mm, and snake it down from the deck in a room close to the chest, and where you can easily get a trolley to it from the gangplank, as you just wheel 4 bottles of dry nitrogen up to there, and connect the regulator and flow gauge. All standard welding supplies, and the cylinders will last around a week each at low flow, before you need to swap them. Becomes a monthly delivery then, and will keep the sea chests dry and purged. You can run a plug and pressurise the others as well, using separate flow gauges, and that way you will see any leaks as well, and be able to attend to them. Cylinders up on top deck also mean, if the nitrogen does run out, the water will not flow back up, just stop at water line.
@KI4HOK
@KI4HOK Год назад
Also both gases are heavier than air and could cause a problem if they leaked creating a non breathable atmosphere in that room.
@MartysRandomStuff
@MartysRandomStuff Год назад
@@KI4HOK Also, I would think there would be OSHA rules that would come into play if trying to use an inert gas in those confined spaces, so compressed air would be better if they wanted to push the water out. But the current solution using gravity doesn't require someone to check if a compressor working or a tank of air hasn't gone empty. I do wonder if pushing the water out once in a while and let new river water in would be better or worse for the speed of corrosion.
@dave4882
@dave4882 Год назад
Cylinders of argon and N2 are easily sourced. but that means you have to regularly move and replace cylinders, while a compressor has to be checked occasionally to make sure it's still running. Air requires almost no work, and I'm sure hes busy enough. As far as OSHA goes, hes already standing in a confined space with no ventilation, atmosphere monitoring, or rescue gear. For some reason, I think OSHA isn't high on the list. A room air quality monitor would be the right thing to do. I'm sure the engine room has some sort of ventilation system built in so that fresh air is brought into the room.
@Nightdare
@Nightdare Год назад
Oxygen, salt water and steel are not a good mix Having it bubble from the sea chest, would corrode the area it touches
@agenericaccount3935
@agenericaccount3935 Год назад
🏳️‍🌈corrosion🏳️‍🌈 😄
@wheels-n-tires1846
@wheels-n-tires1846 Год назад
Anyone else panic, thinking NJ was headed for the bottom??? Or at least Ryan was starting a bucket brigade???😂
@scottcooper4391
@scottcooper4391 Год назад
No - takes ALOT of water to sink a big ship :)
@jeremielarin1979
@jeremielarin1979 Год назад
Nice sponsor.
@gasengineguy
@gasengineguy Год назад
I doubt it's anything major, or they wouldn't waste time making a video, or I hope not hahah
@stormiewutzke4190
@stormiewutzke4190 Год назад
I'm a former boat and ship builder and Certified Welding Inspector. I would be interested to see what those alloys are. Hopefully after I hit my 15 year mark I can sit to become a welding engineer and need to do some serious study into all of that. I have done a fair bit out of interest and find the way metal interact interesting. I would love to hear what you find out about the material. I'm out on an injury and if you ever had a question I could help with it helps to keep me sharp.
@daveking4229
@daveking4229 Год назад
I wonder if it could be a early stainless variant? I know a few are "magnetic" (can't think of correct term lol)
@zeroone8800
@zeroone8800 Год назад
@@daveking4229 Some some varieties of Monel are magnetic, and are old enough.
@455buick6
@455buick6 Год назад
@@daveking4229 Actually all stainless is magnetic, some a lot less than others but it's all magnetic!
@gerry5712
@gerry5712 Год назад
@@455buick6 Generally 300 series is weakly magnetic if not non-magnetic while 400 series is much more strongly magnetic. 300 series is called austenitic which refers to the crystal structure 400 series is martensitic or ferritic. This is general info I'm sure there are exceptions. Maybe some metallurgist can add to this
@stormiewutzke4190
@stormiewutzke4190 Год назад
There are older stainless steels than that. Most people are used to the non magnetic stainless but there are a lot of others and they have different properties. All steels will loose magnetism at a given temperature. At that point they change to a structure called austenite. With the right heat treatment and mix of alloys you can bring that down to room temperature but at some point if you go cold enough it will begin to convert to something else. There are different mechanical reasons for the different grades and they resist different types of chemical attack. Salt can actually be a bad one especially if temperature and pressure are involved. Besides the chemistry of the steel the heat treatment and chrystaline structure all matter.
@thetruthseeker5549
@thetruthseeker5549 Год назад
All Your bids have been great, but stuff like this is particualarly exciting! Deeper dives into more technical detail are awesome!
@crp5591
@crp5591 Год назад
I love the curator units of measurement!!
@pivbyfrank
@pivbyfrank Год назад
I love these obscure places you bring us. I could never be in the spaces you venture, my claustrophobia would freak me out.
@alancranford3398
@alancranford3398 Год назад
Sir, you triggered my claustrophobia! Thank you for showing me the interior of the sea chest so I didn't have to squeeze my fat old body through those tiny hatches into unventilated spaces and get covered in rust while risking cuts and bruises.
@deemstyle
@deemstyle Год назад
What's up with the rainbow animation and "corrosion" label? Seems like this has been in the last couple videos.
@revengencer_alf
@revengencer_alf Год назад
I think it's just an ongoing joke of how it's kind of the signature phrase/magic word of all these videos. We basically can't get through a video without corrosion coming up since it's basically completely inevitable on a ship this old.
@tsm688
@tsm688 Год назад
they are attempting to birth a new meme.
@billmoran3812
@billmoran3812 Год назад
In my much younger days, I would have had no issues climbing into that condenser. I climbed into many tanks in my career. But now, I look at that hatch, and get a real feeling of claustrophobia. Maybe it’s the knowledge that I am no longer as flexible as I once was, or that I have more common sense than I once had.
@chasewatkins9661
@chasewatkins9661 Год назад
Have you looked into renting or borrowing an XRF gun (XRay Fluorescence) to see which alloys you have? You can shoot the tank alloy with XRays to see what metallic elements you have but it won't give you carbon content. Then, you shoot the blanks as well as the welds to see what the compositions are to track down which areas have the most dissimilar metals side by side to focus on first when you eventually do go into dry dock.
@thevictoryoverhimself7298
@thevictoryoverhimself7298 Год назад
Imagine when he moves on from the ship or is replaced. He's only a few months away from being more associated with this battleship than any person in its history.
@tyler_bt3326
@tyler_bt3326 Год назад
I don’t think he will honestly, he seems happy taking care of NJ
@cobaltclass.
@cobaltclass. Год назад
When a curator is born, do they always come out of the sea chest because they're a gem?
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