Battleship New Jersey's Machine Shop 

I think in one of these videos he said there were 2 tons of blueprints!

So. Many. Blueprints. A very large room with boxes stacked to the ceiling.

@@BattleshipNewJersey Awesome they still exist! Hope they are being preserved!

Those blueprints should all be digitized!

We're working on it. Most of them require a special scanner that we don't have though, they're huge!

We show the names on the floor in the video!

Also, heres a picture of your group: photos.app.goo.gl/WVGFbqpALfjiABBYA

@@BattleshipNewJersey Wow, that's super cool to see the loop closed like that. Awesome! Much respect sent out to Lee Lawrence and his group for being out there keeping us safe.

Were all those pecker holes in the radial drill press table when you were there Lee?

@@wdcjunk Yes. And I'm sure a few more appeared after I transferred.

Yes the bullard is called a VTL, vertical turret lathe.

@@000-v8v9w I was troubled by the same mistake and jumped to the comments to make the same correction. I didn't see any turret, so I thought that it was a vertical lathe.

I think that was a Bridgeport on the left.

There is a Bridgeport on the left, right behind the Bullard vertical turret lathe which is right behind the drill press.

Lodge and Shipley Lathe.

Mechanical Engineer here, and def. not professionally working in a workshop myself... but same.

Same. Need more time examining the equipment on camera, preferably by a knowledgeable machinist. Does the museum hire machinists? If so, would they be able to run any of the equipment? It's been a long time since I've run a manual machine, but this would be a really interesting job, even if the parts being made are simple.

Same here. I love the old iron. My oldest lathe is a 1933.

@@throngcleaver got you beat New York wire had a lathe that was built in 1917.. k & t machine in Ashland Virginia had one that was built in 1918, and I cut threads on it 10 years ago.. it cut them perfectly....

I was really hoping to see an old Monarch EE lathe here!! If I have my history correct, this lathe was developed for use onboard a navy ship. I’ve used numerous lathes thru my work-life, the Monarch is my, hands down, favorite!

I bet that would have been fascinating to see - a life size time capsule!

I hope they preserved those machines!

Old myth, it's been told about a bunch of ships.

Wow oh wow. If not a "myth" What a find! Like Christmas to a budding machinist. What happened to them ?

@@SealofPerfection I believe my grandfather. If you don't, that's your own problem.

You can email education@battleshipnewjersey.org if you'd like.

Some of those are very much so eighties machines. The WW2 era iron can be seen with it's solid castings and curved lines. The eighties machines were encased in sheet metal.

@@AndrewTubbiolo thatt was what i thought

The Standard Modern lathe (SM) is definitely 80s or 90s. I wonder how they got it in.

@@micahatticus4257 I would imagine vertically down wider portals then horizontal. It's not like it's an American Pacemaker. I don't think the fit would be too tight.

@@AndrewTubbiolo Yes that seems to be a good way to do that and maybe with the Headstock removed also.

Happy belated 21st birthday Jack!

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@@BattleshipNewJersey Massive guns, massive armor- this is the way.

@@BattleshipNewJersey Yes, BOTH! Excellent!

Real versus imaginary. I’ll take REAL

My girlfriend: "Did you see the latest episode of The Mandalorian?" Me: "Did you see Ryan's latest video on the Battleship New Jersey?"

USS Orion AS-18?

@@davidzimmer2694 the Hunley, Holland and Canopus.

Hi Ryan, Great video. I was an MR2 aboard 2 tenders from 87-92. First onboard USS Orion AS-18 stationed in La Maddalena, Sardinia (Italy) and onboard USS Cape Cod AD-43 out of San Diego. R2-31A was our shop designation. Also worked in Nuclear repair on fast attack and SSBN’s. I loved serving and I miss it very much. Can’t wait for the museum to open up again so I can enjoy it in person. Thanks for making these videos. It’s obvious that you have a passion for history and I enjoy how you explain various parts of the ship. Keep up the great work. MR2 Peter A. Loverci Milford, CT

By the way, were open on weekends right now! We highly recommend checking our website before planning a visit though because, you know, things change fast this year.

@@peterloverci1002 I was onboard USS Cape Cod from 1982 to 1984. Made the 83 WesPac.

US GDP has gotten a little better since then. it would cost about 2 billion to actually rebuild that ship.

That proportion shows the high percentage of defense spending that preparing for or being in a war costs- aside from the human tragedy and living hell that war ALSO is, because of political differences of opinions among nations.

Not everything. There is a Standard Modern lathe that was probably installed during the ships last overhaul and modernization in the 1980s. Standard Modern lathes are made in Canada.

Like the little brand new Jet horizontal band saw? - And as far as all machinery going back to WWII that lathe with the square headstock SM Lathe wasn't even thought of 'till Vietnam. And the way he just walked past the newer Bridgport with even a word. (Is there a more essential machine tool ?) That DoALL surface grinder is not that old and he didn't mention the Horizontal mill or the boring mill either, but he sure is obsessed with chain falls and the mono rail One more thing. - If the stock rooms are not habitable while under way what good are they if you have to shut the boilers down if you need a piece of 1-1/4 1045 cold finish ????? Something is not right here. - He defiantly needed an actual machinist mate with him .

@@mathewmolk2089 That Do All Surface grinder dates to the 1960's and was probably installed during her Vietnam War reactivation. The Canadian SM 20/60 Lathe dates from the mid 80's and was most likely installed during the 88/89 refit.

@@mathewmolk2089 I think by habitable he means it's hot as balls in there and nobody is going to be occupying that space for long. Not so hot that you can't walk in for a few minutes and grab some bar stock, but hot enough that you're not going to be in there for hours at a time welding or winding motors without dying of heat stroke. Imagine walking in a sauna at its hottest setting to grab the phone you forgot inside, compared to staying in that sauna all day long operating a drill press.

@@ssmt2 Canada is still in America... just not the United States of America

There is a DRO on the Nardini or similar lathe. One passes the headstock on their right when entering the "office" area

...and did he say "...6 inch armoured... deck"? 6 inches in one thing ...but "armoured" is something else. "Armoured plate steel which is carbonised by heating the steel in the presence of carbon (usually charcoal) for long durations (often several weeks)". It appears the hardness alone is in the vicinity of 500BHN ....then there are the physical properties and toughness, etc. I wonder what the "outer" materials thicknesses are (hull and top deck)? apps.dtic.mil/sti/pdfs/AD1027340.pdf

I caught that also. Still use one today. Fun machine to tap holes on

Move the drill itself, not just the work piece? Yeah, I can see where that would be useful.

@aristarchan1 if you watched close, there was a Kearney and Tracker horizontal mill with a vertical head in the machine shop.....Your dad probably had a horizontal mill with a vertical head also.....a very fine machine....

Is there a place where you place your renders?

Like our raw footage?

One of those guys is in this comment thread!

Interesting, I thought it looked a little bit out of place, like it was way to small for the company it was keeping.

Nor the Bridgeport mill.

The Bridgeport might be, they were first sold in 1937. The SM definitely is new.

@@cmdrbigbob Not with a variable speed control on the head.

@@paschaldobbins8430 good catch, I missed that. Anyway the document they posted says it was put in during 80s refit which makes sense.

Exactly. We keep them in place all the time because they're hard to move but they would only install them when they were needed.

@@BattleshipNewJersey thanks for the quick reply. Just discovered your channel a few days ago. Catching up on all your great videos over here in Monmouth County, NJ

@@BattleshipNewJersey any chance you could share photos showing one rail in the stowed position and one in the installed position, or a short video of the basic process?? Were they mounted on pivots and secondary rails or did the crew have to dead lift them into place?? Thanks

They were mounted on a rack on the wall and then lifted into place. We tried to do it once but its a multi person job.

I thought that was a Bridgeport

because they're a dime a dozen?

@@schwig44 Depends on the condition, they are starting to go up in value.

​@@phillhuddleston9445 doesn't really matter when you look at the items in aggregate, they made a zillion bridgeport mills, that's why people who want a valuable one are left looking for specific variants, because the C head is extremely common. Just because it's old and survived and is in pristine shape, doesn't mean it's special. Being those things while being one of 15 on the planet means it's special. being those things while being one out of 50 thousand (conservative estimate), just means you sold well and they made a lot of you, and you happened to be sold to someone who cared enough to maintain you

Hey Chief, we have some extra empty space over here, what do you want to put in it? Lathes, lots and lots of lathes.

Well, when you need to get repairs done, you need them done RIGHT NOW, dammit!

@@BlackEpyon Well, you are either being shot at or being hunted or you are practicing for those two, so now would be much better than later

Yep - looks like some of the machine tools were added long after WWII.

Although not at sea, where I did my apprenticeship, we had a vertical lathe with a tag that said, property of the us war department, yours might be a little smaller, but it has made me wonder what its history was....

Got a really good look at the storage areas though..

I wouldn't be too hard on Ryan for that. I don't believe that he knew the names for the various types of machinery that you mentioned. So rather than stand at the operators stations and say "big machine #1 that I don't know the name of, big machine #2, big machine #3" I think Ryan just kinda moved along. No fault of his, unless you spent time in a machine shop as an apprentice I doubt anyone would know.

We need Abom to get a special tour of the machine shop spaces and film everything.

I currently work in a shop that has 20 ft 16 foot and 12 foot vertical boring Mills and an 8 foot bulliard.. these machines made parts for battleships in world war II.. in the seventies and eighties the machinist who ran them made reactor components for the nimitz-class carriers..actually the entire reactor vessel and reactor head, along with many of the valves..today we are making missile tubes for the next generation Columbia class Boomer..and pay load tubes for the Virginia class attack submarines.. along with various other stuff for the Navy.. we also have an old Lodge & Shipley lathe looks pretty close to the one that's on that ship..

We've got most of that information available here: docs.google.com/document/d/1TgcmBdiaOA5HWCd2J6WnNba9qjxMcivAGImwUW-waro/edit?usp=drivesdk Keep in mind, this was written for a tour guide to give a brief tour of the space.

I was thinking the same thing.

Standard Modern Lathe made in Ontario.

Mark Parnell: Yes, Standard Modern! Thank you. It’s still a very nice lathe but not as classy as it’s predecessors.

There should be letter stamped information plates on each machine somewhere with serial numbers and manufacture date.

The video description has a link to a document with more photos and machine details. Mind you, that doc was written for tour guides to have a basic minimum info.

They must have been put in the storage before the hull was closed up, no way can I see those long bars being moved through the corridors to the store room.

@@wonniewarrior some of those big machine tools like that big lathe must been done yet same.

On the Massachusetts, even after they stripped parts for the Iowa's, there are still whole cashes of spare parts. For example, there's a room full of brand new barrels for the 40mm Bofors that were just left there. I feel like our definition of expensive and the Navy's definition of expensive are quite different lol.

@@greentland many a junk man made little black powder cannons out of bofors barrels. They used to be common. I think .14 scrap sent all the best stuff to china. It sure cleaned out those french scrapyards full of ww2 tanks. Just imagine all those sherman and panzer parts gone. Made into whatever junk we buy at Wal Mart... Depressing comment over. I would love to see stuff like all the leftover parts on these old ships. Give you an idea what the navy thought a ship might need.

Your taxpayer dollars at work!

Agree

Heavy sons of bitches to lug about though.

Check the video description for a link to a document with additional photos and info

Bru Star we turned a lot of pump shafts and valve stems. Making a valve stem is tedious because you are cutting Acme threads. We churned out tons of impeller rings too. Pumps of all types were always in that shop for overhaul. Electric motors too. The electricians had a guy named EM1 Rich Baird. He was a rewind genius. Never saw a motor on there he couldn't rewind. Great guy to work with too. He taught me a ton about motors.

At san jose state univ. we had lots of ex navy ww11 era machines in the industrial tech machine shop class. good American made stuff, this was back in the1980s

I don't know if it's just me/my PC but the juddering when they pan is really obvious and unpleasant. Shame, because the content is great!

Thank you. I noticed that a couple of them looked to be much newer design.

Sorry about that, you'll have to come out and see it in person to get the full experience!

@@BattleshipNewJersey if this Covid thing ever goes away....

We're open on weekends! But also, yeah, hopefully next year. Fortunately, the machines aren't going anywhere.

In the meantime, this document has additional photos and details of some machines, it was written for a tour guides to give a brief tour in here: docs.google.com/document/d/1TgcmBdiaOA5HWCd2J6WnNba9qjxMcivAGImwUW-waro/edit?usp=drivesdk

@@BattleshipNewJersey Thank You! and thanks for the videos in general.

I have a south bend lathe with a war production board tag on it! probably not rare though!

Harvest Gold.

Equipment was taken care of.That stuff would last for centuries if taken care of.

Just saying, we have more open to the general public than Wisky does....

Fun fact, everything in this shop is fully functional and we do use the space for maintaining the ship today.

@@BattleshipNewJersey Machine tool nuts like me would go crazy watching vids of your machinists making parts for the ship. Or really, just making parts.

@@AndrewTubbiolo @Battleship New Jersey Andrew is right! I know I would! It'd be cool to get Mr. Pete and Joe P. on there too!

@@wdcjunk Don't forget Keith Rucker also.

@@comput3rman77 right?! This sort of thing is right up his alley too.

They are still there. We talk about it a bit here: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-K52PSdCpzX4.html

They removed the 4 props on the USS Intrepid on her last repair job. The props got stuck in the mud and it was easier to move the ship after they removed them. I think 2 of the props may still be on premises of the Intrepid Museum (1 outdoors, 1 possibly on board the Intrepid herself), I believe one prop is in Washington, DC as part of the memorial paraphanelia or possibly in a naval museum, and the last prop is in Pensacola at the Naval Aviation Museum. USS Enterprise (CVN-65) also had her props removed. I think at least one of those props may end up in a museum somewhere as a memorial to the ship. I believe they cannot reuse the Enterprise's propellers for active duty because they were tuned/crafted for that ship's specific propeller shafts and they wouldn't synchronize well on active-duty ships. Enterprise was a single-class ship (like the JFK/CV-67 was) a continuing problem with the Enterprise was fabricating spares since she was unique. You had to make pieces from the other ships fit by modifying them OR specially craft one-off pieces for the Enterprise herself; that was one of the things that made Enterprise more expensive to keep in service than the Nimitz-class ships. From reading about the Olympic Class Liners, it was also the case they could not swap out propellers between the liners because they were all built a little bit differently and they tested different pitch angles for the prop blades, and 3- and 4-bladed central propeller designs were tested to see which prop design was more efficient for the center prop shaft, too. I have noticed several things about ship memorials... Significant submarines that aren't saved in totality (like USS Nautilus mostly was) have their sails conserved and put in museums. A lot of the larger ships that get scrapped have their propellers conserved. They did this for Lusitania which had 3 propellers removed in salvage operations in the 1980s and this has happened for multiple other civilian and military vessels.

There were over 50 sailors in each of the gun turrets.

Rob back then camaraderie was encouraged. That's why there is so much artwork and crew lists onboard. No one got in trouble for that. As a matter of fact, since Big J was an all male crew it wasn't unusual to see playboy center folds on a workcenter bulkhead.

@@leelawrence1557 yes. That’s a really good thing. I was just joking.

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Our head machinist has worked in this shop since 1968 and that is what he calls it so that is the name that we use.

We often use the phrase A City At Sea, she really does have most everything!

Hell during ww2 this ship had 1000 more people on board than live in my town!

Quitte common on ships

Yep. Not a "turret lathe."

Our machinist, who has been working in this shop since 1968 calls it a turret lathe.

Not even close to being a turrent lathe.. I'm surprised there isn't a small Tool Room Lathe with a turrent attachment.

Sometimes they are referred to as a VTL or vertical turret lathe.

I ran one on an aircraft carrier. We went thru tail end of an hurricane once. Waves 40ft. The ship wa 80000 tons. It moves very slow in the waves,i suspect battle ship are the same.

Our head machinist, who's used that machine since 1968, calls it a turret lathe.

I think he's referring to the large peice of equipment you called a 'Drill Press'.

Sorry, he mentioned both in his comment, hard to keep up!