Gonna get together with the rest of the 4th when this premiers and discuss, always happy to see a new notification from your channel and we’re willing to send in artwork for any future videos as well!
Notice how The Enterprise pulled The Riker Maneuver? Swinging the Fleet (leg) over the top of the Cardassian line (back of any chair) and then down the other side (straddling the chair)
Inclusion of Adm. T'lara: ah yeah, remember her, cool. Inclusion of Adm. Bullock: oh yeah, him, nice touch. Inclusion of Nechayev: HELL YES. SHIT IS GOING DOWN. DOMINION ABOUT TO GET DOMINATED! Inclusion of Enterprise-E:
Similar material was published too, in the Last Unicorn Games roleplaying book, Fires of Armageddon: The Dominion War sourcebook. Regarding siege of Vulcan, Benzar and Betazed. May be found today in pdf form, too.
Dude, your Star Trek videos are the best on RU-vid in regards to strategic and tactical realism. Why the hell do you only have 11k subscribers. We gotta get your videos more circulation, i think there are hundreds of thousands of fans who would go for this stuff.
At the beginning of the Dominion war star fleet finally achieved something that had been working on for 80 years it replicates its first ship complete replication of an entire starship the ship is small it's only $130 m long it's based on an old design the warp Delta it can only get to work six but it can sustain warp sex it's not an emergency speed and it has a old style warp engine it's based on the work 5 engine but it's smaller it's only 12 ft long it's impulse engine though is state of the art it can go from 0 to full impulse and half the time previous and it's very maneuverable impulse and it is also capable of flying an atmosphere and landing it only has four decks and it's based on the old 22nd century Delta design on the outside on the inside it's a modern ship and it's technology is fully modern it has three front-facing pulse phaser cannons that unlock the device are not fixed these are in modern turrets they can fire beam or pulse and a single front quantum torpedo launcher that can fire for torpedoes in a valley and they rear photon launcher that can launch four photons the tubes can fire photons or quantum it has a blade of armor it can hold two top two shuttles that it can launch from a single drop shuttle Bay in the middle of the stomach or the bottom half it has five of these new phaser turrets it has one on the bottom underneath the nose it has three in the nose facing dead Ford and has one in the rear now the one at the bottom and the three on top they can that's four that they can fire at a Target and if they need to fire more long range they can switch to meme it don't look like to defiance razor blast it looks more like wrath of Khan pulse phases but it's equal in power to defiance it just can't blast as many of them these can blast three shots in a volley at full full power and a pulse but is more accurate than the defiance accounts and has a greater range the ships are usually captained by lieutenants commanders usually lieutenants sometimes they turn them over to the planetary defense Force
@@venomgeekmedia9886 could you make a video about the federation tolarian war Jeremiah Rosa his grandmother was a Emeril Jeremiah Rosa the tellarians a woman could never outrank a man and he stabbed Captain Picard
To think the Dominion got the Vulcan to rethink their way of life. Their way of thinking. To figure out that Logic is not always the answer to everything. That following a logical path is not always the right course of action. That even the Romulans may have the right idea. To have emotions and logic together. To which that maybe it was time to follow...Logic...and bring the two halves back together.
I imagine the first experience of fighting vulcans hand-to-hand was quite traumatic for jem'hadar. Dominion warrior caste probably got accustomed by this point to humans being pushovers and klingons being only somewhat of a challenge, but then this panzy-ass lookin' elf walks up to you and snaps you in half with his bare hands. Like, wtf, did someone put lsd in my ketracel?
_"Not one __-step-__ system back!" ~ __-Soviet-__ Starfleet Order No. 227_ This siege gives me both Leningrad/St. Petersburg & Stalingrad/Volgograd vibes in regards to the encirclement of Andor & the battle at the Vulcan border. It gives the off the UFP's desperation as well as jubilation after their victories here & Operation: Return. Also, an excellent showing of the Grey Ghost that is the USS Enterprise-E proving why it's Starfleet's flagship.
Those of us Wolf 359 survivors including me with many cybernetic replacement parts were considered bloodthirsty relics after our defeat. When Starfleet needed us however we were there, angry as hell and looking for redemption. Never forget your warhawks when your in trouble. We’re the ones who will not bend, who will not bow, or will not break.
Have to say that it is great to see the federation fleets and their admirals making effective use of the terrain, spacial phenomena, fortified positions and military assets at their disposal to slow down, frustrate and ultimate defeat and turn the enemies numerical advantage and tactics against them. While brilliantly concentrating their best forces at key positions to defeat the enemy at key moments vital to victory. Plus great to see the enterprise e showing how lethal a sovereign can be to the enemy.
What an awesome presintation Thank you for this outstanding video on the Dominion war and its effect on the Vulcans, Logic is great till someone sticks a gun in your face. I can see how the Dominion war would have change the Vulcan way of thinking and would lead to reunification of Romulan / Vulcan People and maybe make them whole again. having looked at both they always seemed to be missing something like both were incomplete.
when an animal has its back to the wall it will fight with the fury of an animal with nothing left to lose. The Federation needs to make further usage of surface based phaser weapons, best fit to be lance weapons that could provide the best ground support in siege battles. when it comes to large scale battles the federation always seems to make the mistake of treating all their ships as battleships rather than their actual classifications, they need to use their fighters and escort ships like mirandas, defiants and maybe even sabers as a further skirmishing line to keep the enemy at arms length while their frigates and artillery vessels can provide support from a distance with a seccond escort force behind that can act as a mobile reserve force. the federation also needs to make the usage of mines more common, throwing self replicating mines in random clusters along well travelled routs they could use them to slow down dominion forces who would have to manoeuvre through them slowly buying the federation more time. The federation could use this to set up traps with automated turrets and small squads of fast moving ships like defiants. if they focus on the Jemhadar fighters and cardasian frigates then their cruisers will lack their support and can't safely engage the federation formations and will need to pull back and regroup, then while they reorganise the federation can catch them flat footed and drive a wedge in dominion lines. in summary, I love the video
I would think long ranged guided weapons, that act much like fire and forget beyond visual range air to air missiles would also be effective against hostile spacecraft. Once aloft, they could seek out, identify and then destroy them. Volley fired, each weapon could independently find, then target the location on a target most likely to destroy it such as a torpedo bay or the target's power source.
planetary emplacements are a definite advantage however. some might argue that the key is to not let the enemy reach the planet in the first place. the main reason for the linear tactics used by starfleet here is that they are fighting defensively. on the offense they certainly would fight in the way you describe. thats partially why the 12th fleet was part of Sisko's task force. mines are good. if you have the time, and good deployment. concentric minefields are only good for slowing the enemy down. the key to mines is using them to break up enemy formations, and force them into killing zones. i do like the idea of pairing attack ships with turrets. the firepower of the turret and the mobility of attack ships complementing one another.
while it is key that the enemy stays away from populated planets; when I look at an island I see an unsinkable aircraft carrier, and when I look at a stellar body I see a massive turret that's a damn sight harder to destroy.
generally the enemy would see a large concentrated defence (Like andoria) and try to encircle it which is exactly what the dominion did, you can predict this and let the enemy through as they punch through nearby less defended systems and you can formulate an appropriate response. Then once they are far enough behind you lines you can strike their rear guard and cut them off from support like the United earth government failed to do at Calder and Tau Ceti during the earth romulan war
I love these videos, I'm watching DS9 at the same time and I have to say it really improves the experience. Pairing these videos with the actual show really makes it seem like there's a brutal war happening instead of it mostly just being described as vague background info. As an aside, I just wanted to mention that I'm not a huge fan of the whole trailer and premiere thing. It just makes me more impatient for the video ( but I guess that's the point isn't it :) )
Wow the scope and thought that went into these battles is truly deserving of praise. You have a rich imagination and can see the most logical reason for most anything and it is most refreshing to have that level of thought applied to the Star Trek universe for the first time in a long time. You'd write a cracking space napoleon novel...patent pending ;)
The SHIPYARD at Epsilon Eridani? No, no, that can't be right- the Federation only has one shipyard, at Utopia Planetia! (In case its not clear, the above is veritably swimming in sarcasm.)
What's the name of the music track that starts at 17:17? I like that one and I can't seem to find it. It doesn't match the titles of the tracks mentioned in the description.
I get to wake up to this!!! Finally the gloves come off of the perennial peaceful Vulcan! When they give themselves to killing its swift and without remorse. Yikes! Imagine a universe where they controlled their emotions with intent to conquer?
I'd LOVE to watch a series on that potential reality! We've always wished for a Klingon based series as well.. But real Klingons not the CBS Discovery Klingon / Underworld Lycan hybrid lookin things where their mouths can barely move 🤦 lol.
thats the one thing that doesn't improve with a rewatch... the long klingon scenes. btw i am planning on doing a klingon focused series set during the 22nd century.
@@venomgeekmedia9886 what! Man the Mrs n I are gonna geek TF out on that lol, pretty stoked good luck on it brother! We don't even re-watch the 1 season at all, 2nd season starting out being directed my Johnathan Frank's really brought it back for awhile but did seem to decline again when other folks started directing again 🤦.. Really kinda wrote the whole series off and even cancelled the CBS app once Picard was finished lol..
Just run a table top RPG, my game shop did around 15 years ago. The differences between a Vulcan and Romulan merchant is, at lest the Romulan has the decent social politeness to smile as they screw you over in a business deal. Half of all Vulcan merchants are in fact Romulan spies. Vulcans broke off into five different civilizations, forming into three empires. 1.) Vulcan, logic tactical power wargamers the run their region of control like grand parent God Fathers. " deep sigh, .." dead pan wit, .. Time again to spank the Klingons ? 3.5e Star Wars Jedi Councilor class/ telepaths. bonus skill: Auto Recall. / self hypnosis. 2.) Trade merchants that know they basic have twice the normal life span, .. bloody space elves. Playing practical jokes on all they can. Main leading cause for myths/ legends of Elf like being on under develop worlds. 3.) Romulans, .. casual smile cause they knew they are better than everyone else, or just tired of dealing with undiscipline young species/ Klingons. More prone to pick unfriendly fights and raids. More or less just for the hell of it. Ferengi, their females are just .. nudists. Well, .. their planet is a rainy tropical environment. Males just like crisp looking business suites, but even they prefer less clothing when they can. They like humid rainy showers. Humans like steam saunas and Ferengi like doing business deal sitting in pouring warm showers. Humans, 80% are claim to be under the UFP, but the other 20% do a lot of shady zhit under " plausible deniability." Many captains are more than happy to jump a Klingon cruiser with their phaser at 1/20th % of power to knock on the other ship's hull just to say hello. Since Klingons love a good fight, give them a good friendly play fight and gift them with whiskey/ beer. The other 5% of them run on a military engineer war cargo ship carriers, they will just snipper you or steam roll murder you. Klingons think its no fun to fight them and Romulans prefer not to provoke them. Then you have the 1% techno mages, most of them are not even pure human any more. The seek to create hybrid super species .. cool entertainers or creepy Sith Lords. Klingons, the waring clan houses of the empire. Some houses are more align to human colonies then they are to their home empire. Some are total war mongering pricks and others just like finding new drinking buddies to watch sports with. USA football/ European rugby, soccer, and hockey are Klingons favorite human sports. Most humans die from heart failure and exhaustion in their fifties trying to keep up with Klingons in bar parties and sports. Other than dying in battle, human die celebrating the enjoyment of life. Other than some friendly ship tactical wargames, everyone more or less knows there are those in all species just like going around murdering each other in their cloak & dagger spy non sense. So most just shrug it off and go about doing their own thing to pass the time. Then there is the Borg, .. they claim what they want and push technology where ever they can. The techno mages took over a few Borg cubes and use them to poke fun and insult the Klingons with or the Romulans. " Resistance is futile, but do so anyways .. it makes spanking you more interesting till we grow bored with spanking you. You will not be assimilated, cause you smell bad and ugly, you have no technological or cultural distinctive to add to our own collective. But we encourage you to resist this spanking anyhow." Klingon ship is then hit with an Ion/ EMP burst leaving it powerless drifting in space, follow by the Borg stealing all the Klingon alcohol. Klingons , " For this insult, you have chosen war." " Response to the new Borg threat." Human, " Well, F**K me running sideways ! " Romulan/ Vulcan, " Do you always have to make things difficult ?" Klingon, " Sounds like fun, and I have nothing to do at the moment."
An important theme of DS9 is how war is corrupting. The fact that in the Victory of the defense of Vulcan you note that the Vulcan people were themselves corrupted is very good and appropriate. Despite being so important to Star Trek Vulcan is seldom actually explored and included in these big moments
That was wonderful, especially the thoughts of the Vulcan in the beginning and at the end - it hints to reunification with their "lost cousins". That could be a mini series of it´s own. (did I hear it right that 10 Mio Vulcans died during the Dominion war? Really?) Although I sometimes get the impression that these war episodes (and the DS9 tv series in general) are quite favorable to the Federation. It seems a bit "unrealistic" to let the Federation win so many battles with fewer numbers just due to smarter tactics and technical advantages that may have been there in comparison to the Cardassian fleets but not to the Dominion´s. But that should not come across as critique, I just wasn´t convinced by so much plot armour (as shown in the DS9 series) for the Federation. They should have suffered more. Your Battlespace series is marvelous and fixes many of these plot wholes.
Given that vulcan had a population of 6 billion. Add to that their major colonies 3 billion each. And the far flung colonies there would easily be over 20 billion vulcans. And so 10 million is likely a small percentage of that.
Don't forget, a lot of the ships the federation was using, Sovereign, Akira, Steamrunner and Defiant classes were built to fight the Borg. An infinitely more dangerous adversary than the Dominion. And SF's idea of hollowing out, up armoring and up weaponizing ships like the Galaxy and Nebula class gave them a true tank of a warship, able to absorb more punishment than their Dominion contemporaries. Starfleet learned a valuable lesson in the USS Odyssey disaster, and admirals like Nacheyev put those lessons to practice.
@@LARGO125 Yes, but the numbers of those advanced ships should be negligible compared to Dominion ships, which had formidable battle ships across all ship classes. Most of SF consisted of old Miranda, Excelsior, Nebula, Ambassador, some Galaxy etc. class ships. Some of them were refitted but most not. Those newer ship classes like Akira, Steamrunner, Norway might have been in production for awhile and should be producable in an acceptable amount of time. But Souvereign and Defiant classes were so rare that I don´t really know if the term "class" is even valid here.
@@venomgeekmedia9886 Very interesting, I didn´t know the numbers but these casualties seem likely. It would be fascinating to see Vulcans in combat, maybe even ground combat. Perhaps I´m reading the wrong Star Trek books. A recommended reading list would be highly appreciated :)
@@jimbeam4736 DS9, went the UFP went to war with the Klingons, Jake Sisko was told by a wounded human when fighting the Klingons he knew Vulcans where 3x stronger and fast than humans along with the Klingons, but he .. Never .. seen anyone move and fight like a Vulcan. The Klingons seem to be holding back on us the whole time but they when into warp speed swarming the Vulcans. You wouldn't believe how the Vulcans screamed as they fought and died enraged. Those bastards took the Vulcans' ears as trophies. It was from the episode where Jake suffer shell shock the first time in his life.
venom geek media it just keeps getting better every single time my friend but here's a question the Vulcan speaking at the beginning Makes me wonder if he will not go on to cause another Vulcan reformation his reformation with his words changing balken and the way they look at things and view things yet again . Here is an idea and I know I'm not a paid subscriber but I have an idea how about doing a series on how the dominion war will change the political views and ways of thinking for the major powers is powers not just a federation as as a whole but like the endorian people humans tolerates the the powers that were decimated in the war which pretty much was everybody
definitely an interesting idea. Lore Reloaded did cover it as well. but the federation would be very interesting since its multicultural, the various species would all react differently. perhaps producing a more inward looking federation.
Sources for the used media are good, but what are the sources for all these videos? Memory-Alpha? Memory-Beta? Official ST releases (film, tv, books, games, ...) or is this just your fan fiction?
I have been watching your Dominion War and really like your narrative. If I can give 1 bit of advice space battles are not 2D so putting a line of anything only works if you cover all areas.
So @14:00, why didn't the fleet from Berrengaria engage the Dominion? Seems like Dominion is overextended here and the other Federation and Klingon fleets could attack the Dominion lines while they are busy attacking Weytahn and Eridani?
You know what the funniest part of all this is? The Vorta literally learned NOTHING from all of it. They would continue to tHrow away Cardassian lives like this for the rest of the war until the Cardassians understandably turned on them.
Do you think that Starfleet ever used the defelctor blast weapon that enterprise used against the Borg, it would be interesting the think of they ever developed it as a single use weapon maybe to counter dominion battleships.
Unfortunately us with the 1st RRTF were pulled back earlier. Our combination of Cloaking and experimental armor generators was deemed “ too valuable “ for 6 prototype warships and a heavily modified Sovereign class. We were there at the fall of DS9, we were there for the fall of Betazed. During that battle we got there late and were able to fight off wave after wave of Dominion attacks to keep an escape route open for those ships that survived the 10th fleet massacre. We escorted endeavor in to rescue anyone we could. We were basically fighting all the way back. We were ready to fight for andoria but they had us conduct hit and run attacks from Vulcan. Lost a lot of good friends in that war, saw many more loose it. Looking at all my artificial parts and how little of me is still left I feel the dominion was was my redemption from Wolf 359. I drank with Martok on cardassia because I felt that those I left behind would have done the same were they not killed
Hm, Babel is Wolf 424 and not located near there on the map. As are Andoria, Regulus, Weytahn, ...... Aside, it all lacks a bit of a 3D feeling, as line is confronted with line. Well, why not coming from above or below?
I wonder in your opinion what ships you honestlly keep in TNG Starfleet as Oberth, Sydneys, Marandas, Excelsiors, Ambassadors and maybe Narendras as the filler capital ships on deep space missions
I've been thinking any Spacedock type Starbase battles as love to see Runabouts of course the Siege of Starbase 74 of course Starbase 74 had time to get war time arms installed it had 12 Garrison Ships and dozens of Runabout class Cutters against Dominion flanking attack show the Dominion what a ground up station unlike ad hoc DS9 can do likely the Defiant class Battlle Frigates operating there
@@venomgeekmedia9886 the Last Unicorn Games RPG books allude to the USS Gibraltar NCC-75689, for one case - which I believe has been in some novels, too. Possibly the USS Musashi is another contender, and the Tirpitz.
@@venomgeekmedia9886 What I normally heard up to this point was that Enterprise was still on her primary duty at the far border, exploring and making new contacts. Which I always got annoyed by.
Another fantastically awesome and gorgeously fantastic kick add humdinger of a video. When the federation has ut backs to the walls it comes out fighting and savagely too with all the fury of a cornered beast defending its home m as the romulans in 2161 and now the dominion learnt to its cost. Though of course this would not be the last time that the dominion would threaten Vulcan and they still would have to fight hard to protect their world in the aftermath of the fall if betazed.
So, this might be a dumb question but, after watching star trek from ~1984 on, has there ever been a reason given as to why star ships always seem to approach a solar system on a 2-D plane, instead of just flying in from top or bottom? From a fluff perspective, it makes it so systems can have defense in depth (and I see that as a good thing), but was there ever a "crunchy" reason given? Something like 'traveling outside of the natural gravity plane in a heliosphere causes a massive reduction in (sub)light drive speed' ???
At 7:17 the picture shows dominion ships. The large ship in the bottom left is very different to the battlecruiser in the bottom left but it is not a battleship. The dominion battleship had wings swept back and no curve like the battlecruiser has. Is it just a battlecruiser but the angle makes it look different perhaps
Oh right v type. In ds9 do the two different battlecruisers exist only because they updated the design or had a cg and model version etc. Once the second battlecruiser is shown in an episode is the original version ever seen in ds9 again? Im wondering are there different types of battlecruiser or only one that they changed the look of and improved its design like they do in tv shows to make them look better although its meant to be the same thing
AWACS means "Airborne Early Warning and Control System" meaning they would probably call it "WACS". In a few scenes I really thought you should calm down, even real history documentaries do no get so agitated when telling of great battles and I don't get why you change your voice to quote people, come on, you are the historian telling us, and you are doing good and have a great presentation voice.
Why is Hoth located in multiple galaxies and two totally different universes? EDIT: All Galaxy Class vessels should have been retrofitted as full hunter/killer combat vessels. They had the means and the ship mass. Each Galaxy Class has a thousand crew members. The ship is so big that it's 90% empty space on board. There's room for 10× the firepower in each. Not to mention backup shield generators...at least three or four with a backup Warp Core. One can be used, if damaged, as a 'Kill All' while the other kicks in and warps them the hell into the next parsec. An antimatter space nuke.
The federation galaxy nebula etc run away at high warp.. pursued by the enemy... suddenly the enemy force blows up as the feds have not only fired back at them with torpedoes . But have chucked mines out of their cargo bays... given the speeds involved the cards and jh had .00000000001 seconds to respond... See physics ... dohhhhh..
You are sure to come from England because you can clearly hear the Received Pronunciation. Your RP or British English is flawless and very clean for me to understand in contrast to US English. There are also differences, for example in New England, the people there are very close to the RP. Otherwise, I don't understand anyone in the US. The pronunciation is worst for me in Alabama. Learning English is compulsory in German schools, but I think the mistake is that the students are drilled in RP. Not only in pronunciation, but also in vocabulary. There are clear differences between words and spelling in US English. My pen pal from the USA agrees with me and thinks that it is a mistake for the students to be drilled in RP in Germany. He says he always notices that when he reads my letters, because I stick to the RP vocabulary and also to the spelling of words that are spelled differently in US.
What I don't understand is why Admiral Nechayev not called her friends from Section 31. Section 31 has a secret fleet whose ships are cloaked, as well as cloaked space stations. It would have been a rude awakening for the Cardis and the Dominion if a cloaked Federation fleet suddenly appeared behind them. Yes it would have been a big violation of the Algeron Treaty, but on the other hand the Federation is fighting for bare survival. The Starfleet Command and the Federation government have neither understood the extent of the threat nor taken the right measures to protect themselves from it. Even two years before the war, the bright minds knew where the matter was going.
With their strength, speed, intelligence, hearing and eyesight, discipline, and potential for aggression, I imagine that the Vulcan's could be a dangerous opponent indeed against the Dominion's military. If Sis Co and Wharf can kick Jem'hadar backside wholesale, imagine what motivated Vulcan's could do? [and, good night; imagine Commander Data fighting them.....]
Starfleet needs to make a low war for impulse ship you can have a low warp drive without an antimatter or dilithium crystals you pay can't get above what three with it though cuz of the romulans use fusion reactors instead of antimatter for a lot of those early ships
