For all those interested in playing this game. There is a discord channel you should check out for it As the community is small but you get to directly challenge people on it
Cylon Command during the years between the First and Second Cylon wars. "So how do we make our Basestars more powerful?" "How about we remove all the guns and pack in more missiles and fighters?" "Good idea, but what happens if we win the war and have to chase a fleeing Battlestar across the depths of space? Those guns might be useful in steadily wearing it down more effectively than just counterable missiles" "Nah, like that will ever happen"
@@zchen27 the best thing is, that with their resurrection tech, he can have such remarks continuously and they can be throwing him through the airlock over and over again, giving nice meta-level to this classic structure :)
Lachesis wasn’t wasting time in that year long cease fire. Great to see how politics did more damage to the colonials than the Cylons did. Foreshadowing the eventual Fall of the Twelve Colonies 40 years later. Keep up the great work Spacedock.
Galactica actual, I, am Lachesis. You struggle against an immutable future, the might of the Cylon Empire collects within striking distance, yet you still pull apart your homes, looking for one more rock you can carve into a primitive blade. I will not ask for surrender. I have attempted warfare, both lawful and not. My weapon would have healed every disorder you have inflicted on God's lands, but, like cockroaches, you will not go quietly. Your continued resistance has sparked contingencies within Cylon Command. God's will is no longer manifest in me. I would rather find glory for him in combat than subservience under another. You too, should consider death a preferable alternative than what is to come. I await Galactica's arrival above Oranu.
After the first cylon war "Speaker of the Cylon council": During the war, our warships, even with the edge of superior technologies struggled to figth the mighty firepower of the Colonial fleet, because of that, we trusted the great endeavor of upgrading our fleet for the future conflicts with mankind to our must trusted mind. *Mr. Torgue appears* EXPLOSIONS!!!!!!!!??!?!?!?!?!
"Well frak if that isn't a terrifying opponent- combining the firepower of a Revenant with the torpedo-spam of an Argos means that it remains a constant threat at all ranges, where I could flak suppress the torpedoes of their lesser kin and forget about them whilst they reloaded to focus fire on other enemy vessels." "With that said, they seem to have made themselves vulnerable to their own tactics, here- only two fighter squads means a Battlestar's vipers (mk II) will eat them for breakfast, and only heavy turrets leaves them with very little defence against torpedo-spam, nukes or fighters of our own. Formidable, but not overwhelmingly so." "Lieutenant Spacedock, we thank you for your contribution. The information you have gathered will be invaluable in reviewing the doctrines of Colonial Fleet moving forwards. " "In other news, Aerilon has resumed food shipments to the Fleet- have a couple Manticores meet them at rendezvous point Omphalos...."
till you take into account that it's only 200 meters less and say battlestar fills that space where as the basestar has a massive amount of empty spaces
@@XLentGamingNetwork Yeah, it was the last thing left and I had a couple of battlestars, damaged. We kept throwing torpedoes at each other. My celestra made me win the day. The damn thing was flanking my Galactica and I had my Celestra ram it.
you know, you can say whatever you want, this is my favorite and in my opinion, best basestar. It just has that imposing, military bulky feeling to it, it's got proper ordinances, and as much as the toaster hangar thingy of his litle brother to come, is nice and cool, i still prefer classical launched stricrafts... AND IT GOT CANONS EVERYWHERE FOR CHRIST SAKE! THAT'S MANLY!
Same here. People always argue that the Colonial would have won the second cylon war had they do not have the CNP backdoor. Truth is, the basestar in the second war was likely designed with CNP backdoor in mind. Had the Cylon never planned for the CNP backdoor and thus expecting a conventional war, their basestar likely would end up looking a lot like Cratus.
I wish they would come out with another BSG series. Although Caprica was off to a rocky start, I think it had a lot of potential and was canceled to soon.
On cylon basestar Incoming nukes activating short range ftl Jump Firing into flank of colonial ship At this same time on colonial ship Tactical officer 5 s to hit Dradis oparator It jumped Evrybody lands on the ground after series of hits
_"Keep it together damn it! It is just a copy of a Minerva full of toasters. Focus fire on it until it breaks and keep loading flak ammo on the secondary batteries. And for Lords sake do not get close to it!"_ --- No-one in Colonial Fleet
It's in the last mission of Resurrection and Ghost Fleet DLC. And yes, they are a pain. Those gun batteries mean standard tactic against basestar simply doesn't work well enough anymore, and it fire missiles way too rapidly to even consider dropping flak just for a turn. I loss two Artemis the first time fighting one of these.
That was actually done in the series. The Galactica did it. (Although I could see how a Cylon ship could do it better) I have a feeling if it jumps too many times in quick succession, it could burn out the FTL drive (out of game).
@@Zachomara The Galactica needed weeks of preparation with ground support to to calculate that double jump and the Raider more or less jumped blindly. I guess it takes a lot of computing power and excellent sensors to pull it off deliberately, especially for large ships. There is probably also a limit to how often you can jump in quick succession (FTL needs to cool down) and you are burning trough fuel pretty fast.
@Schlachti10 That jump did have the heightened difficulty of being done not only into an atmosphere, but also directly next to a planet (which made the calculations more than just extremely difficult). These micro-jumps on much more advanced hardware are done in open space, without having to worry about hitting a mountain and disintegrating half your ship in less than a second.
You seem to have hit almost all the Deadlock ships, stations, and tech. But, there is one I've really been looking forward to but not having seen was the Cylon Revenant Gunship
That is pretty cool. Getting closer and closer to seeing the ships from Blood and Chrome (Evolution of that is). Wonder how much longer before we start to see the Loki Cruiser, or the various warships seen in the Ghost fleet.
Might be nice to see the Loki take over the armaments support role from the Celestra... Celestra does only armor/subsystem boosts, while Loki can reload armaments
Have you read Singularity Sky / Iron Sunrise by Charles Stross? If not, I'd recommend a read. There's stuff about closed timelike curves vs spacelike curves.
I could see how this would be in a BSG show with the first cylon war, a more mysterious ship that would seem invisible and would be a large obstacle for the colonials to overcome
I recently was playing and ran into a fleet of 4 basestars and 2 Argos basestars... Let's just say the flak wall was intense and buttholes were clenched.
@@elonwhatever Planetside covers ground stuff. Although I would enjoy a video about one of the aerospace fighters or warships from Battletech but those don't have as many pictures to use as a Mech would.
We're already in the 10th year of the War.... You'd think that we would have some Blood and Chrome designs. Like the Djerba Cylon Basestar, The Cyclops Heavy Cruiser, The Demeter and Orion Pocket Battlestars..... The Valkyrie??? (I'd be fine if they left that one out lol) the Defender (The ripped off fan design). So many options. And what about the overgunned Galactica? When does Galactica get it's Armor plating removed? It had to have been before the end of the war as Galactica can be seen with less Armor than the Columbia (Which is a Mk II Jupiter) in Razor Flashbacks. And the Viper Mk III? (again ok if this doesn't get implemented lol).
I would have loved to have seen the Colonial reaction to the Revenants...every time those ships show up...I always make sure to kill them after dealing with the Raiders and the Cylon ships capable of hacking electronic systems. .
Operation Raptor Talon Date: 40 BTF 3 Jupiter Mk II Battlestars (Lose 1) Vs: 2 Original Cylon Basestars (Lose 1 Presumably, 1 Leaves when Armistice is signed) 1 Guardian Basestar (Leaves shortly before War ends) In Deadlock it would take 6 Basestars to even hope to destroy a single Jupiter in that situation.
The Guardian Basestar in the new pack is quite the nasty beast. While it only has ventral weapons, those ventral weapons dish out phenomenal amounts of damage comparable to a full battlestar with their sheer volume. Combine with good use of Vespids, focused fire, and good positioning, and I could definitely see a Jupiter going down to such a fleet.
@@vp21ct i agree. They did that Operation quite well in the Armistice DLC which released long after my comment lol. Very unfortunate that Columbia cannot be saved. They capture that feeling of confusion at the sudden ending of the war quite well.
boarding is actually the best way to deal with this for a few reasons. 1. it doesn't like to use it's armoury. 2. it has guns so has to deal with the full effect of the boarding action, 3. out of a;; the cylons ships boarding hits this thw worst since it really needs all the system prepossessing power it can get to be effective.
I always find it hilarious that the episode of TNG itself makes it out as if the phantom image left behind by the manoeuvre is the big defining part of its use as a strategy, not the dash-forward itself that everything else makes use of. Then again it was way back during the 'Ferengi are the new big bad rivals to the Federation' phase that lasted two episodes, so who knows what they were thinking.
2:18 the only trick than can be pulled by USS Discovery and it's Spore drive like time fighting than Klingon ship... If againts Discovery I bet both will played 🐈 and 🐁 tactics ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-ZOSn0d56Eqw.html
Taking that thing head on with a capital ship is a good way to lose a ship. I'm thinking Vipers, Taipans and Assault Raptors might do the trick. Speaking of the Taipan when can we expect that video?
Multiple angles of fire from multiple ships, especially in conjunction with a Janus/Ranger class armor-piercer barrage, combined with a minotaur, Heracles, or battlestar main battery fire. Or keep at a distance and use assault raptors to go ham on it, so that it's heavily damaged, or at least lacking armor, once it gets in range. If you keep a strong flak wall up, it shouldn't be able to hurt you with anything but its guns. Or, do as I do anytime I don't like how a battle is going. A pair of Janus, and you throw six nukes at it
I second William's thoughts. When engaging fleets of heavier armed vessels I tend to either use a Pincer on them with 2 or more ships or form a firing line and circle them. The firing line (similar to what Pegasus and Galactica did in the TV show vs the Resurrection hub) would be most effective vs the Cratus as it'll always be exposed regardless of where it jumps.
I know nukes are a good idea for these things, after eliminating the Raider squadrons. But the tactical jump it can do poses a major counter to this. My main strategy for most battles is eliminate all fighters first, then overwhelm one or two capital ships at a time with coordinated salvos from multiple of my capital ships (As opposed to dish in our widespread minor damage to multiple ships at once)
Just started playing the base game myself. I'm not really a Strategic Game player, though, so don't know how long I will stick with it (for me, its a slog to get through a combat, just to see the cool 'Cinematic Style Replay' at the end ^_^)
How exactly are Cylon Basestars flying around at STL speeds? They have no visible engines like the big modules on the Colonial vessels. And the 2004 versions are worse. Nothing but sleek tendril arms. No engine cones or tubes or nacelles. At least the Raiders and Heavy Raiders have clearly visible engines.
They are equipped with Plot Devices from McGuffin Inc. Or, since artificial gravity is a thing in bsg, they could use generate a gravity bubble in the direction they wish to move, effectively making the ship "fall" in that direction, thus not needing anything more than attitude control.
@@SymbioteMullet And you could probably have altitude control with that same gravity manipulation. It's entirely possible, considering the Cylons can literally resurrect themselves from one organic body to the next.
Take all power out of armory on any ship except for the Argos unless you need to repel boarders, then, once all enemies are revealed, take it out of tech bay until you need to tactical jump.
You mean is THIS First Cylon War in OG BSG? No, this is reboot BSG. First Cylon War was when Admiral Adama was a Viper pilot for reference. If you're asking if OG BSG had its own 'First Cylon War'... No idea
i think it was because most of the first war assest had been retired, like the original centurions, except for the guardians, all of the first cylon war warships had been mothballed and scrapped, to make place for their new biomechanical assets, like the new raiders and basestars. (srry if i spelled something wrong, english is not my first language)
Why the hell didn't the Cylons keep this thing for the second war? The fact that this thing has kinetic weapons rather than exclusively missiles would make it one of the only ships in the Cylons fleet that could realistically pose a legitimate threat to colonial warships.
This ship was never in the series it doesn't make sense one of the reasons for the peace treaty was the Cylons were losing the war they were forced out of the colonies and couldn't match the resources of the colonies
Not needed for attacking planets, civillian ships and battlestars dead in the water. The survival of the Pegasus and Galactica durring the initial Cylon attack was more luck then anything else.
