Battlestar Galactica | The Demetrius Jumps Back 

Not to mention that Basestars don't do well at close range. To jump in that close to a Colonial Battlestar is suicide. Basestars are meant to be used at standoff range.

Tigh is badass but very intuitive.

Or because he was a fracking Cylon! LMFAO!!!!

You know that and also it didn't fire a single missile when it had plenty of time to take out half the fleet.

@@SGz_Eliminated Was just about to mention that too. Basestar wasn't doing anything. No raiders, no missiles, nothing.

I love Tigh immediately barking orders and showing exactly how far he's come as a competent officer. He and Adama even walk in sync.

I was going through a rough time the first time I watched this series, but scenes like this were a great escape from everything

​@@mikehunt534 I agree 💯. Colonal tigh yelling " Gun batteries stand by for target bearing".

LMAO!! thats exactly what I took that look as too!

Adama, in a deep and serious voice: "That's pretty sus, bro, we'll have to have an emergency meeting over this."

Yes. I've seen that look before!

TIGH AND ADAMA R COOL BROS

Anyone else would probably be relieved on the spot.

Agreed. I've seen the whole series multiple times and scene's like this still invoke tension for me.

This scene and *IM COMING FOR ALL OF YOU!*

yeah my favorite scene is with adama vs cain, IM GETTING MY MEN

@@sword4005 i told a friend that was watching that episode i'd follow Adama anywhere just because of that

I've honestly lost count of how many times I have rewatched BSG.

@M 40 I read somewhere that the actors were in military boot camps and had basic training instructed. Which is why the lines and orders... all this military stuff sounds so convincing and real.

Best series of the decade? Frak that... Best and most epic series of all time!!!

@@novelaforme yeah season one extras they have training footage of them learning with real military instructors

@Casper D. in the last 25 years I'm not disagreeing with that Top 3 at all! I believe B5 influenced DS9 during their contemporaneous run and it's obvious BSG was influenced years later. We're living in a golden age of sci-fi dramas.

@@briandeiwert5911 Actually both B5 and DS9 came out of different versions of the same script and sourcebook, basically, the same author left some copies of his ideas lying around several studios as he went after someone who would be interested in making his project a reality, and some studio head found it and handed it to the people who made DS9 as something they could take ideas from, believing that it was from some abandoned show that never made it into production, and the result were 2 shows, filmed at the same time, based on the same source. In my opinion, we've got 2 great shows for the script of one.

I used to do targeting for a corps artillery command. This involved predicting enemy movement and projecting future attacks with both artillery and air assets. More than once I had to look at my boss and say "Sir, just trust me on this." Never underestimate tactical/strategic instinct.

Accurate. For all his flaws, Tigh was a superb officer in battle.

Yeah, there were no raiders being launched, no missiles being readied like we saw in the season 4 premiere. Something wasn't right.

somebuddyX not only that but he could see the base ship had been shot to hell

@@Knightfang1 No, he couldn't see the base ship, he didn't have a visual ID on it

Not even character development, this is always how Tigh has been and why Adama made Tigh his executive officer. Tigh has good instincts, he's always had good instincts.

@@Knightfang1 Nope, he only saw the radar/dradis screen

@Mr Cave it's got nuked in the port flight pod, though it did take ordnance fire at Ragnar and afterwards.

It does not exactly make sense though - how was it a surprise for them, that structural damage is so extensive, if they had a board displaying this info in the CIC all the time ... ?

@@TheBlobik They knew about the big obvious damage to the support struts. What they didn't realize untill after the cyclon renegades joined them was just how much of the secondary support web (the tendons and ligaments) throughout the ship was simply destroyed. on top of that tyril tells adama that damage aside, the ship was built WAY below specs at the ship yard, they cut alot of corners. As a result the crew's understanding of her maximum integrity was based upon a ship built to code....galactica was not and as such damage the specs said the ship could endure was crippling to the now elderly and under-supported galactica.

@@Phoenixesper1 Well it's less about intentional than it was about was on hand when Galactica was refurbished after her forced grounding at I believe Aerlon in the first war, after Galactica was retrieved by a reformed Colonial Navy the refurbished her in secret and thus couldn't bring here to the docks at Scorpia and Daedolis had already been lost at that point so if your gonna refurbish a Jupiter-class Battlestar in secret you are really limited where you can dock her and you don't have access to all the materials you should given the security situation.

@@TheBlobik this damage reporting system is very rudimentary. Basically "is this LED shining". They knew something was broken, but not how badly.

When the show was coming out week to week there was a real sense of desperation that you felt, you truly realized that Humanity was close to extinction and every single ship counted. On top of the decently hard sci-fi and just enough politics I don't think I've ever found a show that replicated the perfect storm of themes this show presented.

The only weak point was Adama's "countdown" to open fire, obviously there to give Tigh the chance to scream out, "Weapons Hold!". That didn't feel natural, and threw off the whole pacing of the scene.

@@looneyburgmusic they were still at some range, only just then taking proper position, and perhaps there were ships in between. You want to coordinate your fire.

@@looneyburgmusic they also just need to be able to fire simultaneously, he was giving them a little time to prepare.

@@PetersaberHD what this guy said,to be fair you don't open fire through your own fleet without a countdown...

Like that scene in rogue one

@@Hadesthief - tough the Viper pilots managed to dodge better than some of the Rebel fleet - though to be fair, an ISD is a tad bigger than the Demetrius...

Pants were filled that day.

@@freezetasticvoyage19 Oh yes... Code Brown!

Thankfully, the Cylons didn't wear their Red Pants on that day (Deadpool reference) :P

​@rt5ueioyfyuiyrutuytwSO SAY WE ALL

Dwight Schrute appoves your message. Best Television show ever made.

Wow! Never noticed that before! Thanks for pointing that out!

I never noticed that either. But it makes sense - they need eyes on target to reduce reliance on targeting computers.

Yeah, that's a nice detail. But it's also quite a pointless design feature if you think about it. 1) It gives each gun turret a massive weak spot that can be exploited by any stray Raider that would be able to slip past Vipers and flak shield. One missile hit and the entire gun crew is dead and/or vented into space 2) Visual contact with the target is useless for the gun crews as they are getting target solutions from ballistic computers anyway and I reckon Galactica has some sort of centralized fire control system to synchronize all batteries.

@@RayPall 1) A missile that would take out the human gunners would wreck the turret anyway. 2) we all know of Adama's reluctance to computer controls. I would imagine that the turrets 'could' be slaved to a ballistic computer, but the old man probably prefers human gunners.

​ @Cowracer67 1) That is true, but that glass cockpit would be probably shattered even by cannon fire, while a fully enclosed, heavily armored turret can be taken out only by an accurate hit with a high-penetrating weapon. If you really need to have gun crews stationed directly in the turrets, you could at least protect them by moving them inside of the turret. They can't rely on visual information anyway. 2) placing humans in gun turrets is an obsolete concept in itself, especially when you can hardwire them to a ballistic computer. Even our current naval warships don't use manned turrets anymore with all the targeting info being relayed from their CIC.

3, the one in opening volley, the one they rammed and the last being the one the pontoon took out after it exploded.

that is why the Battlestars are designed to smash the Basestars into nothing with kinetic weapons.

@@SantomPh Still cool that a ship can repair itself

@Jimbo Bimbo My exactly thoughts

"Obviously different" yes, but not "obviously safe". It's entirely possible the basestar was one giant suicide bomber which would launch/self-detonate a bunch of nukes right in the middle of the fleet. Tons of other potential scenarios too, all of which constitute a "shoot first, ask questions later" response. The possibility that a cylon basestar is actually FRIENDLY should not have crossed any sane military commander's mind if their objective is the protection of the last remnants of humanity. Tigh's "gut feeling" was truly a miracle that it turned out to be right.

@@Crisscross918 if they are attempting a suicidal bombing the basestar would blow itself long before most of the ships around it evacuate

@@Crisscross918 Tigh's gut feeling was a subliminal link with the baseship that he did not yet understand, he is a Cylon after all.

@@Crisscross918 In that case the correct response is to hold off attacking while evacuating ships, which is what they did. By the time Tigh made the call, it was past optimal effectiveness for a suicide explosion. The most likely outcome at that point was some sort of trap the Cylons were laying based upon anticipated Colonial response. The best defense was an atypical response.

@@Crisscross918 Prepping for a nuke launch would have set off radiological alarms as well, both sides were quite capable of detecting such launches being prepared.

I feel like this applies to any ship. When a Battlestar is charging you, showing its teeth, any ship will seem tiny and powerless

I will give that the start of it was top notch. but then it started to crumble around the writers strike, picked itself back up, but then the whole starbuck thing kinda derailed the rest of the series as you can tell it wasn't planned for.Still a great show tho! B5, for me, is my best sci-fi series of all time. plot lines and how well they played out-just hasn't been touched by any other show.

It was a great series for sure except how the writers boxed themselves in on the ending with Kara but my favorite is DS9 it took the star trek universe in a new direction by tackling social issues as well as having one of the 2 baddest sci fi captains in history that being Sisko and the other being Adama. Still BSG reboot was amazing

For me, BSG went bad after the New Caprica rescue. It was still an ok show but never again reached the heights of S1/S2 along with the Battle of New Caprica. Later episodes included that ridiculous Tillium fuel refining ship where men sorted rocks by hand, utterly insane as modern petrol isn't hand refined let alone some sort of ultra high yield super fuel...Also the Gaeta/Zarek rebellion, in the words of my friend "there was no suspense as the rebels were made up of rapists and murderers with all the big name characters being on one side; it was obvious who was going to win". The final episode felt way too long, the bits on Earth simply felt forced and the insistence on shoe horning All Along The Watchtower into the storyline was meh. Why the hell was the Cylon Colony doing "there" after what would likely be many many light years away from the 12 Colonies as they had been travelling for years by that point?! But I'm too harsh, was a great show overall!

The lack of discipline could be explained as Galactica was the remnant of the Colonial military plus it was a ship that was literally en route to the scrap yard at the time of the attack. So it was staffed with personnel either looking for a retirement job or ones who were likely deemed by the fleet to be unworthy of serving on more modern ships. That doesn't explain how well the pilots performed Vs Cylon Raiders which were purpose built and bred to fight but meh...

I love this show. I think many thought it lost traction during and after S3, but I kind of enjoyed it. I wouldn't call the later seasons of BSG more Fantasy heavy, but more embracing what the creators did for DS9... it was more Spirituality heavy...

You could tell he was fucking pissed at him for that "weapons hold" order. But he respected him and knew he would have a good reason for doing that. Better have a good reason LMAO. Anyways it was the right call "this time".

When they weren't busy adding additional models for no reason. Dialogue in season 1 indicated about sixty odd ships (63 after Olympic Carrier's destruction in 33 when it was indicated by Dualla that there were 63 civilian ships (53 jumped away Jump 237, 10 reporting trouble with FTLs)). I've counted the entire fleet (except in Six Degrees of Separation) and I got 84 ships in total (including the seven we know were lost onscreen -- Olympic Carrier, Cloud Nine, one of the six Colonial Movers, one of the two Kodiaks, one of the three Long-necked ships, Adriatic (one of the two Colonial Defenders), Carina (one of the four flattops) and Pyxis (one of the three Sagitarrian Spaceways passenger liners)).

This scene was always memorable because of the fleet dissolving into panic fleeing. They spun all over the place.

That's probably the last thing a lot of Cylons ever saw and is probably one of the most threatening things a Battlestar can do. Especially after what the Pegasus did.

Badass indeed!! And I love how Dee ordered the Demetrius to authenticate. Her intense eyes and voice was lovely.

Hey Hey, stop that. You must be really fun at parties..🤪

Come on...there has to be drama...if not whats the point. Common sense set aside for drama.

If I recall, the basestar couldn't jump they had to get data from the Demetrius to jump, of course they could have jumped first tell everybody what was going to happen, then jump back... but, then it would not be fun.

Its TV. If that happened there wouldn't be a any drama now would there.

The basestar's ftl was slaved to the Demetrius

He wasn't even a sleeper. The Final Five were never on the side of the "evil" Cylons; their aim was to PREVENT the humans' destruction.

So, like every Tuesday ^^

Tigh himself mentioned, if no one hates XO, that means he does his job really bad.

Cool! And thank you for your service

Probably because you were a nonner

This one time.....at band camp..........

To be fair if an enemy ship suddenly appeared in the middle of your fleet you are going to think about how to destroy it before you really notice how weird it is. which is exactly what Tigh does, he orders wings of vipers to attack then in a moment of pause realised how off the situation is. it's only 1 base star, they haven't launched Raiders or Missiles and are just sitting in the middle of the fleet.

Additionally "in the middle" in space could still be several hundred miles given the speed and size of these vessels and the time taken for the vipers to arrive had the demetrius not appeared the vipers may have called in that something was off before committing to an attack

@dark zeratul I disagree. And you may want to look into actual history of naval wars and battles.

Yes, and the whole fleet were fleeing all over the place. It was quite funny.

If this was a military fleet in the first Cylon War, maybe. But being the last known survivors of humanity Adama was not taking chances. You see an enemy, you shoot them.

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Doomstar Requiem and God of War are hardly boring

Music was not as important on the twd as was bsg

@@DavidSonofDavid Touché. That's a thumbs up from me too - great comeback; his God of War score is superb indeed. I should have rephrased my comment better - I meant his TV scores, which haven't been as good.

@@vercoda9997 I'd place his work on Agents of SHIELD as superior to BSG ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-mmTlWtHYX-M.html

We would have got that if they hadn't cancelled it. Caprica was just starting to get good in last few episodes. They just wasted too much time on sub plots, from the few upcoming scenes they showed, the 2nd Season, if there had been one would have been much better. It's a pity they wasted entire episodes on bad sub plots that could have been condensed into a single episode. I think if it had had another season the prove itself it would have been great.

I disagree. Tigh is a military genius and his intuition told him to weapons hold.

The Baseship was just sitting there, not firing and not launching Raiders, which contradicts everything the Cylons had previously done. It’s not telepathy, it’s Tigh reading the situation and seeing something is different.

The Expanse has great graphics but the dialogue drags on and is boring in some parts.

So you have seen DIscovery and Picard. Seen how the corpse of Star Trek is being violated. 😞

How can you say that when we have such amazing shows today like Star Trek: Discovery. And Star Trek: Picard?!.... hehehehehe...

If you've watched the show, the basestar needed to sync to the Demetrius to jump because it's navigation systems were damaged, and the Demetrius only had enough tylium left for a single jump. That's why they had to jump together.

As an XO can do, as long as it is for a VERY GOOD REASON. Especially when you are countering Admiral Adama's order.

Gods. FTFY. 😁

From what I know Lore wise, that Defender had been converted into a civilian ship. No guns or other military hardware whatsoever. Btw, did you know there were a bunch of Defender in Serenity as part of the Reaver fleet? ^^

I'm pretty sure I watched Spacedock talk about this, both the decommed retrofitted part and the reaver fleet tidbit.

@@danteellerbe3427 Still, a former military vessel would've been a better choice them the Demetrius, don't you think?

@@HighLordBaron oh no doubt lol

At what time can I see it? I still don't see it

Anderson means son of man.