Sir John Eliot Gardiner and The English Baroque Soloists perform Brandenburg concerto 2 in F bwv 1047 at the Cadogan Hall on saturday 14th august 2010 as part of Bach Day at the Proms
I agree that the trumpeter is great. However, he is not playing on a natural trumpet which has no vent holes. Very few trumpeters dare to play with a real natural trumpet. The trumpet on this recording is what some may call a "baroque trumpet". It is easier to play than a natural trumpet but still far more difficult than a modern trumpet.
@@philippep2710 Should look at Bremer Barockorchester's recording of Telemann Sonata in D TWV 44:1. Or Hervé Niquet's Fireworks Music at the 2012 Proms. A whole regiment of trumpeters. Well, nine actually, all playing one-handed in the currently approved style
This trumpeter is absolutely fantastic. A very nice performance, and one of the few performances with a natural trumpet available on youtube. A really enjoyable performance.
This is not a natural trumpet, a natural trumpet is "no holes", this one is called "néo barocco trumpet" and began to be used circa 1960s. If you want to hear real natural trumpet, listen to Jean-François Madeuf. Anyway, this piece is probably the ultimate difficulty for a trumpet player, and this man is far to be one of the worse :) :) nice job and sorry for my poor english :)
@@guybardet3357 'Looks like John Foster. Be careful when playing with words in a foreign language. I think that you mean, he's far from the worst; however, he's one of the best baroque trumpeters out there. Having said that, he isn't close to Madeuf or DiProse or Julian Zimmermann who play on natural trumpets. I highly recommend you do a search on Zimmermann's name and watch and hear him play on YT. Here's an example: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-7TBv46lImTk.html. He's fantastic.
JEG and English Baroque Soloists at the top of their game, wonderful, spirited and stylish playing. If Bach had been around, he would probably have been as uplifted as we all are hearing this!
What a joy this is. The best performance ever in my opinion, this is how it should be done ! Not only the superb music and period instruments, but the characters of the musicians. Look at the lead players, the 'mousey' recorder player, the 'haughty' violinist, the 'showey' oboist, the 'commanding' trumpeter and the 'clerical' conductor. It is a delight to watch as it is to listen. This performance is full of character, musically and visually. Wonderful.
Neil Brough, I salute you. That was truly astonishing. I know the extreme difficulty of that trumpet part, and wow, did you master it. Brilliant, quite quite brilliant.
This was how I discovered John Eliot Gardiner & the English Baroque Soloists, through this Proms concert or the bit of it that was televised any way. Incredible.
Wonderful concerto grosso by JS Bach. Ritornello theme is very apparent and the Affections in this piece expresses the prosperity and the contrapuntal genius of Bach himself.
All the soloist instruments can be clearly heard, which is very difficult in that concerto. The trumpet generally tends to extinguish the other instruments. It is not the case here.
Paul McCartney’s inspiration for Penny Lane ~Geoff Emerick~ I recently met a recording engineer who owns a piccolo trumpet. Maybe one day I will hear it played.
They are all absolutely great, not only the trumpet player. About the conducting: it is also great, develops a spirit of grandiloquence. Trying to slow it may not be recommendable.
what are the names of each instruments? i cant figure out the guy with the brown clarinet looking one and the lady with the black recorder looking instrument
I've seen this played on a little bitty trumpet (what I assume is a piccolo trumpet), a regular, trumpet a (believe it or not) cornet, and now what appears to be a baroque trumpet. Which is the one Bach wrote it for - the piccolo trumpet or the baroque?
To add to Rik77's comment: modern "valves" which enable a trumpet or other brass instruments to play all modern pitches were invented around 1825 give or take. Bach lived from 1685 to 1750. So in Bach's time, there were no valves, therefore he wrote for some type of natural or baroque trumpet.
So I’m just curious and please pardon my ignorance, but could anybody explain the key? I thought this was composed in F major but the performance is closer to E major? Is it tuned to the natural trumpet perhaps?
Yes, Baroque Alto recorder. The concert is in F, although the "standard Baroque pitch" typically used nowadays for period instrument performances is A 415 so this actually sounds like modern E instead of F.
this orchestra is splendid and the clavecinist also the trumpet player is very good, just some small difficulties in the upper upper register (let's say "bach height")
Gardiner doesn't even know what direction to give... its all going so well! I don't think he looks the trumpeter in the eye once in the first movement.
The trumpet part is almost impossible with piccolo trumpet, with baroque trumpet became of trascendental difficulty! I appreciate very much the courage of this trumpeter. A bit error is human! Anyway, I would not be in his shoes :)
Concert high G reached twice in the first movement...and many concert high F's. Note that this is played in baroque pitch of A=415 so it's about a half step lower. Nevertheless high enough to kill most trumpeters lol. ;-)
Awful camera work, as usual. The first two times the trumpet plays one of those impossible solos, the camera was ignoring him completely.( at .45 and at .55) the closeup of the recorder soloist at about .50 ignored her hands and gave instead a meaningless shot of her face. Why are the camera folks so incompetent? Can we get a musician to be in charge of the camera angles? Better yet, can we just set the camera in one spot and leave it there forever?
It's actually painful to think that Bach must have written so much more secular ensemble music of this standard that is woefully lost. His orchestral output suffered severely in terms of lost work. We rely so much on reconstructions. Even the famous violin and oboe concerto is reconstructed. Slight sense of "early closing time at the pub" ( or "too much coffee and brandy" ) about the outer tempi, and the slow movement gets a bit soporific, but much to enjoy also.
I agree. The English Baroque Soloists are really a world class orchestra and not only the trumpeter is amazing here. But this is really too fast. This is certainly a virtuosic and dynamic piece but some of the musical sense gets lost when hastening through the piece in such a tempo.
Jadranka T. I think that elfpix refers to the fact that in the baroque era there was no conductur Infact, tempo and indications were given (I may be wrong) by either the concert master (1st violin) or the harpsichord player
Typical Gardiner: a scintillating performance from master musicians, but the fast movements are at his usual breakneck, play-as-fast-as-you-can tempi. Easy enough for him to look relaxed, while he puts his players through the paces. Could we slow down a little and give the trumpet player a break? What is gained in virtuosic display is lost in expressivity.
+Dominik Raosz this is a Baroque ensemble though. They are supposed to give Historically Accurate performances, so therefore, there should be no conductor.
+Covellechi Actually you're quite wrong, Bach would have probably conducted from the harpsichord or organ. The Brandenburg concertos were never performed in Bachs life time however, The composer usually conducts from a keyboard- same with Mozart and Beethoven, they too would have conducted from a fortepiano.
ever moore well that's true but then with different instruments available he might have written different music. Bach always takes the instruments to their extremes using the whole range. If he had modern instruments I suspect the music would push the modern instruments too.
Covellechi this is true in the sense that Bach (or other composers) would usually have "conducted" from an instrument. E.g. Bach would probably have conducted from the harpsichord or first violin, depending on the exact concert (*if* he ever actually performed these, which we do not know for sure). The thing to remember though is...Bach was the composer. So was e.g. Handel or Telemann. So, even if a modern conductor conducts from an instrument, let's say the harpsichord...it' still not "authentic" in the sense that they didn't write the music. In a sense it's more like "historically informed pretense"... ;-)
What specific part? Comparing it to multiple recordings, I don't see the supposed botch. The continuo's mayhaps a little soft, but I don't hear the specific issue. Perhaps you could point it out?
Na, alles n bisschen schnell und poliert...und: Gibt es keine Typ-Beratung in GB??? Niesemann mit Zopf, die Blockflötentante mit nem look aus den 50ern..... Tolll
