BBC: Vegan Diet Could Affect Intelligence | Debunked 

@LIFTING THE VEIL LOL

@LIFTING THE VEIL Folks, Charlie Sheen is still in the building. ;)

The Truth - Projection much? Liking your own comment (obviously) at 2 min in 🙄🙄🙄

Was about to point that out. similar case in China(mostly Omnivore population) in the past but had since cause many social issues where many Chinese men had problems finding wives.

Mic the Vegan Hi Mike. Great work. I notice your eBook link is not working. Can you share a working URL ?

Lololol, MEEE!! 😂🤣🤣 😎

haha !!

LOL

Same

The BBC is a joke. They have lost their way.

Totally using that as an excuse from now on😂

Someone talking about me? 😶

Exactly. :D Better blood circulation to brain and all.

Actually there is a study on vegatarian kids being significantly smarter than meat eaters but it doesn't count for environment like parents' education.

@@goku445 I think that is more likely a corrolation. Meaning - people with higher IQ are more likely to become vegetarian/vegan and raise kids that way, too. I grew up vegetarian because of my highly educated mom who decided to study nutrition and eat ethically in her 20s. She has been vegetarian for 30 years now. She has become a junk food vegetarian, though. In other words I have never eaten meat, just limited eggs and a lot of dairy, before I went vegan at 22. And here I am - in the middle of my own university degree, preforming above average. I think we know by now that an anti-inflammatory, antioxidant rich, ethically conscious diet that forces you to educate yourself on nutrition will be better for you overall. And honestly I wouldn't eat animals even if it was proved that my IQ would drop a few points, just because it is the right thing to do. Low IQ is probably very highly corrolated with a shitty and unethical diet, at the opposite end.

@@fromeveryting29 Yep, I agree.

I don't know about that, but it seems that intelligent people tend to abstain from eating meat. Some intelligent, widely admired people who chose not to eat meat- Pythagoras, Socrates, Leonardo da Vinci, Voltaire, Newton, Benjamin Franklin, Nikolai Tesla, Albert Einstein, Gandhi, Albert Schweitzer, George Bernard Shaw, Tolstoy, Thoreau, Saint Francis of Asisi, Nobel laureate and holocaust survivor Isaac Bashevis Singer, and many more. Some on this list switched late in life, but stayed on it to the end. Ben Franklin switched at age 16. "Nothing will benefit human health and increase chances for survival of life on Earth as much as the evolution to a vegetarian diet." -Einstein (Of course today, he would be vegan. So would the others on this list.) The famous Professor of Physics Brian Greene is vegan. You may have seen him on PBS hosting science shows for the layman. Jane Goodall recently went from a long time vegetarian to vegan. Greta Thunberg is vegan. Jon (Daily Show) Stewart is not only vegan, he owns a farm animal sanctuary! Alex O'Connor, aka Cosmic Skeptic is an atheist who eloquently lays out the ethical requirement to be vegan in his video "A Meat Eater's Case for Veganism." ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-C1vW9iSpLLk.html

haha, me too

impartial 😅😅😅😅 you must be on drugs.

Yes, I think they're better at giving the impression of journalistic integrity, which makes them more dangerous as it's harder to see through them and people trust them more. You hardly even need a braincell to see that MSNBC and Fox are establishment tools with an agenda to mislead.

And the worst thing is, is that we have to pay an annual license fee to support this trash!

@@hazelnutbix You don't have to. You have a choice.

Roxanne. You don't have to put on the red light, but do look out for Jack the Ripper.

It was pleasantly humorous

What about the ~'kale in the brain' thought bubble around the brian scanning scientist stock guy at the beginning. Casual as f😉k

In that autobiography Ghandi talks about essentially raping his wife around the same time. He felt terribly guilty the rest of his life for both...Interestingly, there were over 160 vegetarian restaurants in London around the time he was there in the late 1880s. 😉

hahahaha omg seriously??? No way you this is really how you think? My god I really hope you get help soon before you destroy your health. I can't even believe you said this.....no fucking way this is real.

@@ykonratev It's true. You should use cronometer.com (non-vegan site) and see for yourself.

@@ykonratev "this is really how you think" What is wrong with the way Arturs Verza has reasoned in the OP? Seems sound to me. Can you be specific?

If the gut is healthy. The bacteria in the gut produces B3 B6 B12 And K

@@ykonratev YOU HAVE TO BE A MEAT WORSHIPERS !! Vulgar and STUPID.! !!

I'm glad to hear it! That is probably due to the removal of many processed foods (most of which are plant-based). I've posted some studies for you to consider - I do follow a Carnivore Diet. Vegetarian Diet Affects Genes of Oxidative Metabolism and Collagen Synthesis www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/18772587 “Compared with volunteers with traditional eating habits, carbohydrate consumption was significantly higher (+22%) in vegetarians. This was associated with a significant stimulation of CPT1A (+50%) and OCTN2 (+10%) and a lowered collagen synthesis (-10%). *These novel findings provide further insight into the association of a changed fat metabolism and reduced collagen synthesis in vegetarians, which could also play a role in the aging process.* " Green tea extract only affects markers of oxidative status postprandially: lasting antioxidant effect of flavonoid-free diet www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/12064344/ "Since no long-term effects of GTE [Green Tea Extract] were observed, the study essentially served as a fruit and vegetables depletion study. *The overall effect of the 10-week period without dietary fruits and vegetables was a decrease in oxidative damage to DNA, blood proteins, and plasma lipids, concomitantly with marked changes in antioxidative defence.* " Meaning Stress / Antioxidant markers improved by removing Polyphenols from vegetables Effects of High-Protein Versus High-Carbohydrate Diets on Markers of β-Cell Function, Oxidative Stress, Lipid Peroxidation, Proinflammatory Cytokines, and Adipokines in Obese, Premenopausal Women Without Diabetes www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3687312/ " *This study was funded by the American Diabetes Association* (1-09-CR-32 [A.E.K., prinicipal investigator]). Diabetes Care. 2013 Jul; 36(7): 1919-1925." “ *The HP [High Protein] diet produced a significantly greater decrease than the HC [high Carb] diet in the levels of oxidative stress, inflammatory markers, and cardiovascular risk factors* ... Comparison of FFA [Free Fatty Acids] results were of interest, indicating a significant increase after 6 months on the HC diet suggesting greater lipolysis with HC diet after 6 months (P < 0.001) as contrasted to levels of FFA, which were significantly lower in the HP group after 6 months.” Food intake diet and sperm characteristics in a blue zone: a Loma Linda Study www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/27280539 “ *The study showed that the vegetables-based food intake decreased sperm quality.* In particular, a reduction in sperm quality in male factor patients would be clinically significant and would require review. *Furthermore, inadequate sperm hyperactivation in vegans suggested compromised membrane calcium selective channels.* "

I have struggled with memory issues my whole life but recently I've been able to remember more when I study. Such a huge difference

@@rav_666_ What kind of Diet are you following?

Ariel Venner anti aging experts in the field completely agree that meat accelerates aging and plant antioxidants are the best forms of antiaging such as resveratrol. you’re research is very slim and bias towards the over arching body of research of anti aging. the best way to produce more collagen is by boosting your own production through antioxidants, choline and silica, vitamin C, and plant phenols and phytochemicals.

@@Ariel-oo1nc I'm happy you're presenting your points respectfully unlike others who go straight into name calling. I'm sure your points are correct to some extent because meat does supply you with nutrients that are good for your body, but just like anything else there are things in meat that do not 100% benefit you. I didn't go vegan due to the health benefits it would have on me but because I have seen too many mistreated animals and I will not support the corporations in their unethical ways. Even if there grass fed and free roaming, you still end up killing them. Scientists can't figure out how our brain works but they quickly jump to conclusions that animals don't have feeling or aren't emotionally on the same level as us. If I can live without hurting others then I much rather do that than eat eggs, drink milk and bite into a steak. The health benefits came secondary and I am impressed how much overall my health improved. I was always health conscious since I was born with a heart condition that requires me to stay fit and healthy. I always avoided processed foods, excess fat and sugar. This however wasn't enough. At age of 23 my blood pressure became elevated. I have had heartburns since I was 12. Tums were in every back pack and bed stand I ever had. I would get migraines with an aura about once a week, and I felt generally weak and struggled to keep up with my peers. I was always slower in catching the jokes, I was bad at math, I was forgetful and I felt like I didn't have the mental capacity to achieve big things in life. as of the physical aspect, I blamed my heart for it until I decided to go vegan and things have changed greatly. First was the heartburn that went away completely, then my blood pressure dropped back to normal and even lower 110/70. About 4 months in, my migraines stopped and I felt more energetic. My mind cleared and I was absorbing information just by skimming the textbook page vs in the past where I had to re read that page slowly 3-4 times. I started figuring math problems in my head and things that I found as complex and complicated, suddenly made sense. I am now a year and 3 months in. I got my labs taken and everything is within a normal healthy range. I don't supplement other than B12 once every now and then. I became regular in my bathroom schedules and overall I do not regret doing this one bit. I grew up in Poland where my family had a farm. We had fresh milk, eggs, beef, pork, turkey and chicken. My family didn't use antibiotics, hormones in their livestock as they weren't mass producing. This was just for us and maybe some of the close family friends. You would think that this is the place where you want your meat to come from and today these studies suggest that we should go back to those ways for meat and dairy to be healthy. Sadly, my grandparents, aunts and uncles, despite eating what they grew naturally all had serious health issues. Heart disease, cancer, dementia and diabetes type 2. They didn't live until they were a 100. Not even close. So I am doing things differently and if it leads me into a more fruitful, healthier life then I will know for sure that this is what our bodies work on best.

And anyone with half a brain would advise against it. Maybe consider that you were raised omni and you're taking a huge risk raising your child on a diet that is deficient in nutrients...

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good point

Amazing 😂😂

This is perfect

@James Parker Sure are rats are also carry diease like vegans

Mad Though I can sum up your first mistake in the first six words there.

Deleted facebook weeks ago. I now have way more time for reading and RU-vid. :-)

@@DragomirSangeorzan Ive been thinking about deleting it, but the Vegan activism is all organised through Facebook. AV, direct animal action etc

@@madthough2298 Yes, I lost contact with them. I've saved my "likes", and I'll try to get the newsletters at least. Any org should have a site at least. Facebook actually is designed for this problem, they want to "be" the web.

RIP we need new broadcasting souce. Hopefully someone will come up whit a new one. =)

That's pretty awesome! I hope he watches it!

What did you reply to him?

@@nmhunter8758 "anthropologists have been arguing about what our ancestors ate for decades" And for decades it is known (through bone teeth and feces samples) that kost human populations got the majority of their calories from plants with the addition of some animals eaten " Some have even gone so far as to say that meat made us human." And some researchers have another hypothesis that it was cooking vegetables that made us human "the German Society for Nutrition went so far as to categorically state that - for children, pregnant or nursing women, and adolescents - vegan diets are not recommended" The german society for nutrition has 4000 members, while the 'academy of nutriotion and dietetics' which is the largest nutrition organization on earth consisting of tens of thousands has said that a vegan diet is perfectly fine for all life stages including pregnancy Now about the research, this is an extremly low quality research which cant be taken seriously at all, first of all it was nigerian children which may already not consume enough calories, secondly, of course, if you replace meat wil nothing, than the meat group is going to do better, they didnt replace meat with a bean soup and some seeds, and if they would then the results would be completely different As for the nutrient claims Creatine, carnosine, taurine are not essential for the body and our body can produce them on its own Omega 3 as they said is found in plants Our body can produce vitamin d on its own And the only one that vegans can get from the diet is b12, which we supplement B6 that is simply not true, one banana has a third of the daily needs and many other plant foods have it as well Iron is found in many plants as well.. my iron levels for example are much higher now than they were when i was eating meat I stopped reading here The BBC is heavily funded by the meat dairy and egg indutries and they are known for propoganda against vegans for a long time, the article isnt based on science, it is meant to scare people

The Truth - more projection 😳

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My dad sent this to our family chat the other day. I read through it quickly, and it just got me angry. I'm not even fully vegan, but it was so obvious to me that all the "sources" for her claims were so bad and my dad being an engineer should have noticed it as well. The only study that held somewhat weight was the Kenyan kid study, but even the authors attest to the vegetarian diets lacking in certain nutrients...

Have you seen the state of Gregor these days... Its like watching a car crash

@James Parker Are you kidding lol. Greger looks 20 years older than his age. He can't make a full sentence stuttering. He's not slim, he's skinny fat, he has a dad bod.

@James Parker The man looks like shit. He has the appearence of a man in his 60s, skinny-fat and malnourished. Thanks to his diet he has no muscle mass to speak of which gives him his Mr Burn's-like posture. He has the general appearance of a feeble and weak-minded individual. His skin is palid, it looks thin and increasingly transparent due to the lack of dietary collagen. He speaks loudly, slowly and with strange oration because his malnourished brain has lost the ability to think and communicate like a normal healthy person would. The lack of dietary cholesterol likely means that he's a prime candidate for a hemorrhagic stroke in the not so distant future.

​@@Stoitism wow, you're really far, far away from any tree dude. listen to yourself making all these claims just bullying someone that they don't like like standard pumped hollow ballooney steroid users. you know,some people find nerd looks way more attractive especially if they work hard and have character traits wankers like you can only dream of. if any meat eater isn't perfect or doesn't use 90% of their free time in our short life on earth to make themselves look better on the outside while looking like a dried out prune regarding inner beauty, you'd be so fast to blame it on genetics, other environmental factors andallkinds of things. but vegans, vegans have no genetics that could influence them and how theylook right? and all people who are vegan now had a healthy lifestyle all their youth right? didn't at all suffer from severe illnesses for decades in some cases, which they solved or improved greatly by going vegan right? yea right, go on kidding yourself.if it helps you justify putting your mommys hard earned into feeding the hungry animal exploitation industry, congratulations.. you are achieving so much more than Dr. Gregor. and when you could see in the mirror how your inner beauty looks like, you'd maybe become as pale as all of us terrible, ugly looking vegans. you know, like Ian Somerhalder, Liam Hemsworth and those folks.

@@user-zv9no2my6j My problem with Dr Greger and people like him is that the information they're putting out into the world is hurting people and putting many others at risk. I listened to him and people like him when I went meat-free for almost 17 years. Despite eating a "whole food, plant based diet" and supplementing everything which I was supposed to, my health rapidly declined and I was at risk of serious longterm health consequences because of what I was eating, or more so, what I WASN'T eating. So I whole-heartedly reserve the right to say FUCK Dr Greger and FUCK anyone else who peddles this anti-human and unnatural diet. Humans ARE omnivores. Veganism is dangerous and the people who would force this ideology on others are also dangerous.

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Or you get patronising af shit like "sit down, child, let me tell you a story about the evolution of teeth"... Yeah, that happened on Quora.

Louis Gedo no offense but your repetitive comments everywhere are kinda stale and unproductive as well as your typical replies of calling anyone triggered etc when they point that out. Maybe get a better slogan my dude.

@@askyourselfsfather6516 No offense meant but you expect me to see you as a good judge of such things because you think you are????????? LMAO. A person who uses a ludicrous identity such as yours and not their real name??????? LMAO......you'd have to earn my consideration of you as that by demonstrating you are a good judge of such things. Good luck with that, cupcake. :)

Louis Gedo lol idk why I even tried reasoning with you.

I like this meme.

@@askyourselfsfather6516 That's my point......your so-called "reasoning skills" are non existent. Buh bye.

BBC = British Beef Checkoff ...would be my guess.

As a kiddo who hated fluid milk, I can assure you, lots of that milk winds up in the bin.

All of our stations do!

But they are quick to blame their environmental disasters on other animals.

Not renewing when mine runs out. It's an absolute travesty that this prevents me from watching other TV channels that fund themselves.

so true...lmao

lol

Short answer: check Mic's video on oil. Long answer: that's true about WHOLE veg sources of saturated fats because those either come along with healthier unsaturated fat (avocados, whole olives) or are saturated fats that are easily used as energy (whole or shredded coconut flesh). NOT true for processed oils (olive, coconut, palm, etc.). For some reason people still think that vegetable oils are healthy. They are the lipid equivalent of refined sugars! If someone doesn't have any existing heart conditions and consume an adequate amount of plant whole foods, a bit of vegetable oil in cooking now and then isn't going to hurt their blood vessels anyways.

@@asukachan07 Ok yeah, thats exactly what I've heard and it makes complete sense. Thank you

Yes, I'd like to hear what he thinks is wrong with it; I'm just curious. It sounds fine to me. The only thing I can think of is it's not exactly necessary for "abilities" to be plural here. But that's not wrong, just potentially a little inelegant.

Camille just make a shitty username and profile picture and make lazy comments that fit your parody. That’s what I did with Ask yourself for a little while. Was fun.

Ngl, as a vegan I found this comment very funny. Oh, but uhh.... "our"**. Sorry, bud. Lol

Crunchy colorful snack, very nice! Now I want some lol

@Dr Grey Some humans are claiming to be carnivores. I assume that's what Vegan Flare is referring to, a human "carnivore". I bet that was entertaining.

Good points. Hope Mic reads it. Let's get it upvoted.

Atherosclerosis usually starts in the teens and 20s, and by the 30s we can see changes in most people," says cardiologist Matthew Sorrentino MD, a professor at The University of Chicago Medicine

@Oiman McFoyman Hitler was vegetarian and an animal lover. That is no a lie.

@@djaldd420 Hitler was never a vegetarian, he was a meat eater and ate liver and the flesh of animals regularly. This was proven several years ago that the vegetarism was just a myth. He wanted to be seen as good, animal lovers are often seen as just that. He was an "animal lover" the same way meat eaters and vegetarians are "animal lovers", not so much. Actions need to align with the words and it didnt do that with him.

@@scarofmanleavethembehind It is certainly contested but not disproven by any stretch. The most likely scenario is that Hitler was, as many vegetarians (not vegans) are, inconsistent. Meaning he considered himself vegetarian, and was pro-vegetarian, but did cheat and eat meat products from time to time. It is no myth that he was an animal lover and the Nazi party passed animal welfare laws after coming to power, even prohibiting Jews from owning pets.

@@SaturatedCat It is not irrelevant. She said that vegans diets i.e. legumes, broccoli, apples, spinach etc. leads to brain damage, which is not true. If my brain was damaged I wouldn't be a scientist beacause of the brain damage. Besides..if you think that vegans only eat banans, you should do better research.

@@SaturatedCat You don't need to insult people. You were the one who told me to feed my baby with only babanas and got butthurt because of my success. Just do me a favor and go read a book or sth else

Your new hair cut made me lol.

In a way I called you Gandhi so...you're welcome lol

That extra fat is only needed or beneficial the first few years of life. Breast milk has a lot of carbs too.

@@karlwheatley1244 those carbs are there to help us gain weight fast and grow. It does not mean we are starchivores that are supposed to eat potatoes and beans every day 3 times.

@@User-pz4re All large, slim, and largely diabetes-free populations in recent history got the majority of their calories from whole food carbs, so "carbs" per se are not a problem, only processed carbs and added sugars are. Also, the best results ever achieved for all-you-can eat weight loss at one year were achieved on a diet with 70+% calories from whole food carbs. But to process carbs efficiently, you have to cut fat intake down to that of many hunter-gatherer tribes (more like 8-18% of calories from fat).

@@karlwheatley1244 you're still parroting the same shit I already know. Yes I know fat reduces insulin sensitivity, and a lot of people got most of their calories from starch. That is useless, I'm telling you that starch is not our natural diet and never will be. Do you even know what a starch is? It's sun energy that plants turn into glucose to store for energy, it's the plant's energy source, it's not the energy source for humans or animals. That's why you cannot eat raw potatoes, they are protected with toxins and glycoalkaloids, and no, cooking it does not remove all of the toxic substances. I used to get sick and throw up after eating well cooked potatoes that were very hot.

@@User-pz4re "That is useless, I'm telling you that starch is not our natural diet and never will be." You are welcome to your personal opinion, but scientific research shows that the best overall long-term health outcomes have comes from diets in which most calories came from whole food carbs. There are no very high fat diets that have achieved overall long-term health and longevity. None. Take care.

lmao no. The BBC is a biased network that serves as a government mouthpiece and always has been. It leans right, panders to conservatives and is increasingly more overt in this regard.

are u joking.. the point of the bbc originally was it was meant to be impartial but obv no media is impartial, they just report what ever suits their pockets

Even if they are many lefties are anti vegan as well. As much as people want to make veganism apolitical I honestly believe it’s one of the most leftist movements out there

T. Colin Campbell got screwed by the BBC: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-OnQfXvOap9c.html nutritionstudies.org/british-broadcasting-corporation-bbc-your-credibility-is-tarnished/

@@celestialcow I'm not joking. the point of it was to be impartial and it purports to be impartial, but it isn't - this has actually been documented.

austria doesn't allow dual citzenship what the hell is up with that

@@celestialcow Incorrect. I actually have a dual citizenship (AUT/US) ;-) but there is indeed a debate about that going on in Austria. I'm certainly not saying that Austria is perfect, not at all. I'm not a patriot, though I like where I live and we do have lots of great social and health benefits (but also high taxes). My critique was towards BBC, I don't have anything against the UK. Just don't want their crappy, biased state media channels to affect the opinions of other countries, that's all.