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Beat the Icon: Chris Reeve Sebenza 31 vs. Alternatives 

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@LarryFasnacht
@LarryFasnacht Год назад
I carried a Sebenza for 14 years. It was the year 2000 engraved edition with Redwood burl inlay. I loved that knife. I lost it digging my truck out of the snow in a blizzard (not with the knife, of course). I was heart broken. I went to great lengths to try and recover it, but never did. That was years ago and nothing has replaced it in my heart, nor my pocket. At the time, it was a ridiculous expenditure, but if you average it out over how long I carried it, and how much longer I would have had I not lost it, it seems reasonable. By the way it’s the only knife I’ve ever lost. I like to think that someone who wouldn’t otherwise have been able to afford it is enjoying it as much as I did.
@callummorris11
@callummorris11 Год назад
Great way to look at it!
@steverice7546
@steverice7546 Год назад
Metal detector?
@hiramrodriguez4323
@hiramrodriguez4323 Год назад
Just buy another?
@hiramrodriguez4323
@hiramrodriguez4323 Год назад
@@spoopy9689 I know. I've bought one.
@bladen0869
@bladen0869 Год назад
Sucks that you lost it mate, but man absolutely respect your outlook on someone else being able to enjoy it. Stay blessed!
@markmullen1852
@markmullen1852 11 месяцев назад
I went to the Chris Reeve store in 2018. Tim Reeve sold me an Inkosi. He told me the Inkosi is the better choice. I cherish that knife. Tim then gave me a full tour of their factory and personally introduced me to his staff. He was so cool and I'll never forget that day. His mom is super nice as well.
@scottmasak2667
@scottmasak2667 8 месяцев назад
I like the Inkosi better too, but some people don’t fit the finger grooves, and now the Sebenza 31 has large one-piece “annual” style inlays and the Inkosi ceramic ball lockup, so it’s looking better now.
@landscapingspecialist
@landscapingspecialist 2 года назад
Man this might be one of my favorite episodes, every knife is a winner in my book. Nice work KC 🤘🏻
@Deibodese
@Deibodese 2 года назад
I love to over-analyze everything under the sun, and that includes knives. When a knife enthusiast is looking to buy (yet another) new knife, he or she is really looking for three different kinds of products in one: a tool, a toy, and a piece of jewelry. Some people emphasize the tool aspect above everything else. They’d be happy as a clam with any robust budget model. Some people are interested mainly in the knife as a toy- how well it flips opened and closed, or any tricks they can perform with it. Some prioritize the jewelry aspect- fit and finish, premium materials, customization, etc. A Sebenza really can best be understood as something that was intended by the maker to be a robust tool, but is viewed almost exclusively by the market as a piece of jewelry. That viewpoint is exacerbated by the fact that you can void your warranty so easily just by flicking it open forcefully. Sebenzas sit in an ironic paradox of being nearly indestructible, yet no one wants to use them aggressively for fear of damaging them. But I can’t simply throw disparaging words on people with expensive tastes. There are analogies in every aspect of life. A homeless person manages to scrape together enough discarded food or pocket change to avoid starvation just one more day. A wealthy person spends hundreds of dollars on a single gourmet meal. The wealthy person creates ample resources for himself (money, amongst other things), so he doesn’t have to opt for the barest necessities possible. Is it wrong or evil to enjoy an expensive meal? Not necessarily. Someone who can’t afford expensive meals would say without hesitation that it’s evil, yet I guarantee you that if that person won the lottery one of the first things they’d do is celebrate with an expensive meal. All of that said, I do have to laugh at the idea that my slip joint Case knife has probably seen more hard use than a room-ful of Sebenzas. 🤷‍♂️
@cliffbunyea8416
@cliffbunyea8416 2 года назад
Good thoughts. In a free country, the wealthy guy provided jobs for those involved in his splendid meal. Rumor has it, the dishwasher run out after work to buy a Honey Badger, the prep lady a colorful Spyderco and the chef went online to order a Sebenza 31.
@Krazyabe
@Krazyabe 2 года назад
It probably has and that's a shame. They really are great tools designed for many years of use. I saved and bought a 21 when I heard they were changing the original design. Just had to see for myself. Figured I could always sell it or keep it as the jewel of my small knife collection if it was too nice to use. The 31 was long available by the time I had scraped enough together to get one of the last few available at a retailer. I don't regret it one bit and once I scratched it up I've never looked back. I just don't use my knife as a field expedient screwdriver anymore.🤣
@damyr
@damyr 2 года назад
Reminds me of the wrist watch industry. Tho, it's even a bigger rabbit hole when you start to learn about it... much bigger and almost totally insane. The best watches are the cheapest ones. And as the price increases, the quality declines.
@jayr526
@jayr526 2 года назад
@@damyr praise GOD for cell phones. If they only had blades, I might be much richer.
@khakicampbell6640
@khakicampbell6640 2 года назад
Good assessment! Funny, and true. 👌😅
@jamesbrown9736
@jamesbrown9736 2 года назад
I own a classic Sebenza as well as a ZT and Spyderco Police. I carry them all. I will tell you though my Sebenza is most often in my pocket. It is nearly 25 years old still rock solid I use it for work with no problems or qualms about it. Chris Reeve Knives has the best customer service as far as I am concerned. I called them after owning the knife for nearly 15 years needing new screws. The lady I spoke to simply asked my name and address and when I asked if she needed my CC info she said no. The hardware was at my house in a matter of days. No questions asked no proof of purchase. I will always be a Sebenza carrier, it will be willed to my nephew to continue to carry.
@TheLochs
@TheLochs Год назад
I've been in the knife business since the 70's. I think a lot of new knife enthusiasts don't know how influential Chris Reeves is/was as a knife maker. Tolerances, tolerances, tolerances- his were/are still top notch. He was hitting .001 numbers decades ago. Frame lock? It was originally called the RIL, Reeve integral lock, yup, he invented it. Premium steel? Reeves paired with some top metallurgists to produce one of the first premium knife steels, S30V. He was a true innovator.
@HananGrinberg
@HananGrinberg 3 месяца назад
For me, Chris Reeve will always be no. 1 since I'm left handed and hardly any alternative knife maker makes knifes dedicated for lefties! I can never get enough of asking my righty friends to try opening the knife one handed. Most end up failing and just stare at the knife confused. Only had a couple guys actually figure out that it requires the other hand.
@MF_UNDERTOW
@MF_UNDERTOW 2 года назад
I’ve been carrying CRK’s for 14 years now and no matter how many new, fancy and trendy knives I’ve tried during that time, I always come back to my Reeve’s.
@Phaminator525
@Phaminator525 2 года назад
You can't beat the robust build. I get bored of fast flicky action really fast. But the slow smooth roll out is always satisfying
@bwunger
@bwunger 2 года назад
I bought an Inkosi years ago and it got mixed use with all my spydercos, hinderers and other knives. I just bought 2 Sebenza 31s this year, one Damascus micarta one and one Plain Magnacut tanto. As with anything new I planned to carry it a lot for the first week but it hasn't left my pocket for 2 months. It's just such a great all around knife, for every situation. It's not the best at any 1 thing but it does everything better than most. Magnacut at 63HRC is just awesome by the way.
@twiceborn_by_grace
@twiceborn_by_grace Год назад
I clicked on this video thinking, “I better see a Spartan Harsey folder.” I’m glad to see that we think alike.
@bennyc409
@bennyc409 2 года назад
Can confirm Shirogorov's are flawlessly put together.
@jayr526
@jayr526 2 года назад
I'd like to be able to. Perhaps DCA will send me one so I can speak from experience.
@nullswarm
@nullswarm 2 года назад
I'd love to see an episode of this regarding the Grimsmo Norseman.
@WatchMeEDC
@WatchMeEDC 2 года назад
Outstanding video. Plenty of praise for the Sebenza, which it completely deserves, without overly gushing to shill. Lots of other super options provided with awesome commentary. Well done 👏🏻 IMO the Seb is still the king 👑 best lock, best hollow grind, great blade metal, Ti lightness, perfect pocket clip, amazing real world use strength & durability… and simple, easy ability to self-service 👍🏻
@miked6367
@miked6367 Год назад
Best lock? What drugs are you smoking? The frame lock is the most average lock on the market. Plus with all the latest lock rock issues on their new sebenza 31 models? Hardly the best lock mate, not by a long shot. Demkos shark lock destroys almost any lock for comfort, strength, and ease of use, not to mention fully ambidextrous. Sorry, but no.
@dcamnc1
@dcamnc1 2 года назад
I've had several Sebenza's (and other CRK's); I have a 31 on my desk now. I personally think they are a bit overrated. Pretty much any modern mid-tier (benchmade, spyderco) and up folder is just as good at being a knife. My 31 wasn't even built that well. It has lock rock and side to side blade movement, but not enough for me to send it in. I think they were miles ahead 30 years ago, but now they are classics; almost like a classic car: look cool from the outside, but not that great to actually drive. I won't be buying another CRK. Just imo.
@dl733sak
@dl733sak 2 года назад
I love knives and have a big collection. Have always wanted one but hesitant. I really appreciate your honest opinion. I think you just made up my mind. Thank you sir.
@Tferg93
@Tferg93 2 года назад
I would agree to a degree. Every Sebenza I have owned, including both of my 31’s have been absolutely perfect. Any Benchmade I’ve owned, which there are several, are poorly made. Even my 940-1 has a blade that is not even close to being centred. I will say that I love my Spyderco knives though. They are smooth, well put together, and just simply awesome. I also love how many alternate scales and such are out there for the Spydies. I love my CRK’s and will totally buy more. Also love my Spydies and will add more of those. I have five Benchmades and they have gotten worse over the years. I won’t buy another BM.
@harrycrab8725
@harrycrab8725 2 года назад
@Tyler I’m with you. For price to quality, BM has to be on any most-overrated knives list. Many look so cool in pictures, then feel pretty cheap and often have issues out of the box. I’d rather have a Shiro than a BM gold class whatever. I do like my crooked river though. Solid knife.
@xXYellowFlashXx
@xXYellowFlashXx 2 года назад
Not to mention the price increase 🙃
@WatchMeEDC
@WatchMeEDC 2 года назад
@@dl733sak the Sebenza deserves a counterpoint. I own six CRK’s - 2 small, 2 large Sebs, an Umnumzaan & a Mnandi (+many other top models ie. XM18’s, 940’s, Ultratechs etc). IMO it’s the greatest folder ever made. It is the benchmark that has spawned hundreds of knife designs and models over the last few decades. It’s an outstanding knife, especially in the small size for EDC and actual use day in day out. To me the 21 was better than the 31 but the 31 is still awesome. It’s such a simple and great design. And in the Insingo blade design is amazing for EDC uses. They literally invented the frame lock, S30 and now S35 metals. It’s an incredible knife that will last a lifetime. It’s super light, thin and comfy in the pocket, it has the best hollow grind blade made and it’s just tough, including perhaps the best pocket clip made. Don’t write it off on one YT comment from a rando. Just my two cents. Happy carrying! 🤙🏻
@CA_0341
@CA_0341 2 года назад
Opinions based on an opinion of another person’s opinion whose opinion of someone else’s opinion is just that…their own opinions. So much anger and hatred throw at one company who makes an excellent product, and I don’t recall them ever saying in interviews or otherwise that they were the “industry standard”. I mean just because they won awards year after year, for what?? Almost two decades?? Yeah, that doesn’t say anything about the company. No one in this world will be happy with anything someone else does, and you can’t please an opinionated person who has never been told that in the real world, NO ONE owes you anything. You want something, work for it, you want to win, train for it, if it’s too expensive, apply for a job where things “aren’t expensive”. At the end of the day, I love my CRK’s, and I carry mine for work and I use mine for work, and I love owning mine. Are they the BEST folders I own, probably not, but then again, they probably are. They cut when I need them too, and as far as everyone else goes, y’all can carry what you want and tell me it’s the best, and I might even agree with you, because I understand that the thing you call the “best” works for you, just as my proverbial “best” works for me.
@alanpfennig8573
@alanpfennig8573 2 года назад
Very Very well said ! I picked up a sebenza second hand and it is a great knife simple yet showy,I absolutely love it! That being said, I wouldnt want to spend 425$+ for one ! And I don't thinkI'd sell mine for that amount either! I can think of at least 4 other knifes 4 the price
@xDooksx
@xDooksx 2 года назад
Feel better now?
@CA_0341
@CA_0341 2 года назад
@@xDooksx Matter of fact I was doing very well. Then your comment sent me into a bit of a quandary. You see when I first read it I believed it to be exclamatory in nature, and thus was thinking to be ordered to feel okay, at which point I thought to myself, “yes, for you, I will feel better”. Once upon and theretofore putting on my spectacles; I saw that your comment was not exclamatory but indeed interrogative in nature, by the obvious use of the question mark at the end, which was there the entire time. So once I realized you were asking a question and not enjoining a prepatory command…needless to say I felt a bit silly and reluctantly decided that I would still feel better even though it was not an order, but instead a question. So now, to answer your original question: “yes”, yes I do feel better, and it’s all thanks to you. Enjoy reading till the end.
@stevendeary502
@stevendeary502 Год назад
Agreed.
@drameday
@drameday 2 года назад
My Sebenza 31 sits in my knife drawer mostly collecting dust while my trusty old Rat 1 does all the work. I’m sure I’m not the only one with this story.
@chriswebb3018
@chriswebb3018 2 года назад
I bet later on in life you'll be glad you never used the Sebenza and carried a rat all the time instead. Nothing wrong with the rat but a Sebenza isn't a show piece, time to dust it off and enjoy it.
@fiendslegacy
@fiendslegacy 2 года назад
I’ve had the same SOCOM Delta in my pocket since 2012 and I’m glad i bought 2 more. They should last me the rest of my life.
@93MichiganFootball
@93MichiganFootball 2 года назад
Sounds like you need to pull out an use that Sebenza
@gubourn
@gubourn 2 года назад
i got a sebenza and now i nearly only have sebenzas
@Sarge2112
@Sarge2112 Год назад
Love my Rat1 in D2 think bout this you could buy10 rat1s for the price of 1 sebenza
@shadowdemon5730
@shadowdemon5730 2 года назад
That Chaves Redencion 229 is absolutely stunning.
@maradona8623
@maradona8623 Год назад
My favorite
@stevebrown7190
@stevebrown7190 Год назад
Some great knives on that table, and a bunch of others could be mentioned. That being said, I sure like my Sebenza’s. I will be in line for more when they come with Magnacut as a standard steel next year.
@twai8036
@twai8036 2 года назад
The recent price increase makes it less of a top contender for quality frame lock knives. Asking $425 for a plain Jane small sebenza is insane
@r.d.9399
@r.d.9399 2 года назад
I agree. They've been really ridiculous recently. Hard to say good things about a knife maker that overprices their products.
@the_realist_John_Doe
@the_realist_John_Doe 2 года назад
he even raised the prices on people who already had their knives on order. Pretty crazy that he shows a 4 year backlog of orders too. -_-
@OrionsKelt
@OrionsKelt 2 года назад
The fact that they decided to go back and retroactively charge people more for things they’d already purchased, but not received yet, makes them a F tier company.
@joemcfadden3874
@joemcfadden3874 2 года назад
Nobody had paid a dime the orders were simply placed no money was exchanged and it’s funny people will pay 100 dollars over retail for a Chinese made knife from a American maker that’s been out sourced but as soon as a truly 100% American made knife has a price increase then their wrong and a crappy company I don’t get it
@byjynydjshsnny2430
@byjynydjshsnny2430 Год назад
exactly the same as a small xm-18 pretty standard pricing
@NickWeissMusic
@NickWeissMusic 2 года назад
Pro Tech Malibu. Tough to find currently too, but generally a lot less expensive for equivalent luxury level Sebenza’s, and it has its own unique build choices that play on the company’s strengths (button locks, fast action, and beefy blade stock). Full retail price for a base Malibu is $270 (you can find them if you look hard enough), base Sebenza is $450. The Malibu is made of anodized aluminum, so maintaining a new looking finish is an impossibility outside of a museum case, but they do make other handle materials, I imagine there might be aftermarket too. BTW, If Chris Reeve is concerned with flipper forces on a knife, please don’t show him any Pro-Tech autos lol. I sound like a fanboy but I only own 2 pro techs (for less money than a mid range sebenza lol). They just do what they do very well, and I think it’s pretty clear that the Malibu is intended for the Sebenza space. ZTs are great too, a bit ornate and not as usefully designed for my taste, mine doesn’t make it to my pocket as much as the Malibu, but more than my Half-breed. They don’t mess around with their steel, but their blade shapes just aren’t at utilitarian (on the smaller, “classy” models anyway, hinderers are still no joke). Anyway, my “knife of record” is the Malibu, it’s in the sweet spot of uncompromising USA build quality and price. It’s beyond me why they don’t make more of them, seems like they could print their own money with them, but maybe they sold slower than they hoped. Or maybe they can’t tool up enough production at their desired quality.
@jameswilkes3186
@jameswilkes3186 2 года назад
I had owned 2 Sebenzas, sold both. Now I carry a ZT 0562 ti, best knife ever for me.
@Phaminator525
@Phaminator525 2 года назад
0562ti has that double clutch. Completely ruins it for me, and the fact that its on bearings and a flipper. If it was on pb for reliability it would be one of the best
@artmann8216
@artmann8216 2 года назад
Just love the Ulrich Hennicke designed Task 1. I know it's been around for a while but it's got very classy, sleek visual detailing of the blade and handle and nice size. Great price too.
@knifelore1647
@knifelore1647 2 года назад
Love this, seeing the Sabenza, an nice alternatives, I EDC mostly my Spyderco Amalgam, an absolutely love it. I have yet to find anything close as far as light, the feel in my hand is like it was custom made for me. Thanks DCA, for all you do for the the knife folks!
@landscapingspecialist
@landscapingspecialist 2 года назад
I also carry a Spyderco daily. The para 3 to be exact. No other knife has provided my use case with the ergonomics and utility that this knife has. I feel the same way about my para 3. A Spyderco is my go-to for daily use.
@arrowheadguys7637
@arrowheadguys7637 2 года назад
@@landscapingspecialist I recently got the KC exclusive Griptilian. Its my new work EDC. Nice enough to be proud of in pocket, but not too nice that I'd cry if I lost it. The bright colored handle is a plus since I drop knives in customers yards somewhat often it seems lol
@landscapingspecialist
@landscapingspecialist 2 года назад
I’ve always wanted a Spartan Harsey. So many different color ways and designs. But the knife itself is something that I would carry.
@arrowheadguys7637
@arrowheadguys7637 2 года назад
Which one would YOU get?
@Magoot2456
@Magoot2456 2 года назад
Bro, I got the warthog spartan Harsey and LOOOVE IT!! go for it, you won't be disappointed!!!
@midwestgear
@midwestgear 2 года назад
Shiro is king for sure but definitely a different beast. Love DCAs version the most out of all I've seen tho. Great blade shape.
@MPerry-ox9qb
@MPerry-ox9qb 11 месяцев назад
Try beating the hell out of one and sending it back to the manufacturer and see if they’ll return it in like new condition.
@anthonycampos7417
@anthonycampos7417 2 года назад
One knife that I absolutely love and felt not only completed with the Sebenza but beat it in many cases was the Italian made Fantoni HB-03 in M390 and CF. As a Bill Harsey design it was absolutely phenomenal but sadly Fantoni went out of business back in 2018 and few will ever get a chance to handle one
@arrowheadguys7637
@arrowheadguys7637 2 года назад
I've never really thought the Sebenza was all that appealing, certainly not at the price point. Then again I'm not a Ti frame lock guy, so tbh most these knives don't really do it for me. I do have the Fox 525 and I love it, but its the wood handled version w/ damasteel. Only knife on the table I've ever really considered is the Spartan Harsey. I'll prolly pick one of those up one of these days.
@landscapingspecialist
@landscapingspecialist 2 года назад
Do it. What’s a lot of fun w that knife is choosing from the vast array of color choices and different engraving. They have alot of options that appeal to me. And being made in America tics the last box. Interested what one you end up deciding on. 💪🏻💪🏻
@arrowheadguys7637
@arrowheadguys7637 2 года назад
@@landscapingspecialist Oh I already know which one I want. The Plague Doctor!
@hdrider2071
@hdrider2071 2 года назад
Thats a good one . Been eyeballin the Plague dr myself. Waiting on that 50 % off sale 😆
@cliffbunyea8416
@cliffbunyea8416 2 года назад
As you know, the Harsey and the Sebenza have many similarities and few differences. The sharping choil, in my opinion, is the biggest difference between the two. You will not see a smile on the Sebenza blade for at least 3 generations.
@arrowheadguys7637
@arrowheadguys7637 2 года назад
@@hdrider2071 LOL You and me can both hold our breaths waiting on that sale to happen
@freestatefellow
@freestatefellow 2 года назад
Kinda surprised not to see the ZT 0640 on this list. It seems to be an even better direct competitor than the 0470 you showed.
@reekforceone1992
@reekforceone1992 Год назад
I'm with you on that
@P1GEONPOO
@P1GEONPOO Год назад
I really wish you could still grab those. I got the first Emerson ZT the tanto and it is so well made. ZT have great f&f anyway imo but this thing is special.
@ScottSmith-lx5xb
@ScottSmith-lx5xb Год назад
My 1969 Buck 110 folding hunter knife has worked very well for about 50 dollars new and most likely field dressed 16, to 18 Whitetails. A 4" to 5 inch blade is a must now
@SMarcey
@SMarcey 27 дней назад
Land 912. I read a gentlemen in these comments who lost his Sebenza and the last line is the key for me. "I like to think that someone who wouldn’t otherwise have been able to afford it is enjoying it as much as I did." Not only will I never be able to afford a 425 dollar pocket knife, I wouldnt buy one if I could, because if I lost of broke it I would be inconsolable. Id much rather get a 20 dollar knife thats close enough.
@user-wy1dl2me2p
@user-wy1dl2me2p 22 дня назад
Ditto ! Even a $20.00 knife I will miss after 23 years in my right front pocket my craftsman lock broke
@willblake72
@willblake72 2 года назад
This comment section is such a gift LOL thank you DCA and KC!!
@SOMNIOHM
@SOMNIOHM 2 года назад
Just buy the Sandrin Monza, and call it a day! You will not be disappointed!!! *Knife owner/collector/user with 20+ years experience, (with over $110,000 in knives) & owning nearly every one on the table!*
@r.d.9399
@r.d.9399 2 года назад
I'm shocked at how expensive some of them are. Insane.
@jayr526
@jayr526 2 года назад
Me, too that is exactly why I do not own one. In addition, Lynn Thompson and his brownies totally destroyed one, on one of their advertisements for their triad lock. I can buy two Spydiechefs for the price of a Sebenza.
@minnesotawoodsman9982
@minnesotawoodsman9982 2 года назад
It's pocket jewelry. I find the more I spend on a knife, the less I treat it like a tool and put it to use.
@tempest-523
@tempest-523 8 месяцев назад
Agree with that outlook. I've been tempted to buy some of these finer knives but then I think I can buy a handgun at that price. I can buy 2,000 rounds of 9MM for that. I could buy the knife I have and lose and rebuy it 5 times over and still have a knife. When I think like this I never pull the plug, I'm concerned I'd wind up losing / misplacing it.
@landscapingspecialist
@landscapingspecialist 2 года назад
More Beat The Icon please! MORE MORE MORE!!!! 💪🏻💪🏻
@arrowheadguys7637
@arrowheadguys7637 2 года назад
Hope they do the 940 Osborne next
@Daniel.Liddicoat
@Daniel.Liddicoat 2 года назад
One knife I was looking at recently is the GiantMouse ACE Sonoma - Ti Satin. It's much cheaper that the Sebenza.
@mango3520
@mango3520 2 года назад
Really good timing since the price change lol
@damyr
@damyr 2 года назад
Are there any alternatives to Swiss Army Knives? Maybe some with more premium steel, or with bigger tools?
@Ericstraordinary
@Ericstraordinary 2 года назад
For upgraded steel, have a look at the SAK alternatives made by Boker, Ruike and MKM.
@JustinL13
@JustinL13 2 года назад
This is the most perfectly timed video release.
@user-wy1dl2me2p
@user-wy1dl2me2p 22 дня назад
That blue and gray together a great combo
@sherrischneider2794
@sherrischneider2794 9 месяцев назад
Insane prices and wait times.
@davidhalbleib5040
@davidhalbleib5040 2 года назад
That was a fun one, just seeing a whole bunch of premium knives in a similar class. I always enjoy your videos. I would like to see a video on work knives with washers rather than bearings price range anywhere from$30 up to $250 price range.
@rickjohnson8129
@rickjohnson8129 2 года назад
Me too
@ogenmatic
@ogenmatic 2 года назад
I own a Sebenza 21. I use a Sebenza 21. It’s a good knife. I’ve had a few & no complaints about any of them. Yes there’s knives that are a better value but there’s a joy of ownership to them.
@gcvrsa
@gcvrsa 2 года назад
I've never been happier to still be carrying my 20+ year old Gerber Harsey AirFrame, the ancestor of the Spartan Harsey Folder. Although the AirFrame is a liner lock, rather than a frame lock, its lock up is totally solid and it has what I believe are UHMW polyethylene washers instead of bronze washers. Being a knife that was designed some 25 years ago, the AirFrame has a 154CM blade, which while not being as exotic as later Crucible powder metallurgy steels, was considered a premium steel way back in the late 1990s. Remember that the Sebenza was originally made in ATS-34, which is virtually identical to 154CM. The 3D machined titanium scales are every bit as attractive as those of the Sebenza or Spartan, perhaps even moreso. This is the best folding knife Gerber ever made, and it was made in the US. In fact, Gerber ended up discontinuing the knife because it cost more than they expected to make it. The best part of the knife for me is that it has a tip down pocket clip, which I prefer and believe offers inherently superior safety to any tip-up design.
@trevithickrob
@trevithickrob 2 года назад
Thoughts on the Spydiechef? That knife is fantastic
@Melchisedec81
@Melchisedec81 2 года назад
I’m a bit surprised there was no Rick Hinderer on the list. Specifically the Eklipse.
@harrycrab8725
@harrycrab8725 2 года назад
Yeah, a Hinderer is the perfect example because you can’t get them either : )
@Sea_Jay
@Sea_Jay Год назад
All great knives, the only problem is that you will know it's not a sebenza everytime you hold it.
@cocaine_hookers
@cocaine_hookers 6 месяцев назад
You know why these cost $500 bucks? It’s because they want you to try and break it. He makes work knifes not safe queens. Use yours I sure as hell do.
@DenyTheZeitgeist
@DenyTheZeitgeist 2 месяца назад
You sure? Pretty sure Chris has a long track record of vehemently despising people who “abuse” his knives.
@skookumdanger
@skookumdanger 2 года назад
Considering the price (and recent price increase) yes, yes you can absolutely beat a Sebbie. 💯
@gabrielbaker2667
@gabrielbaker2667 2 года назад
People acting like a $30 price increase makes these no longer desirable. Like you were already willing to drop $350 plus on a knife lol
@skookumdanger
@skookumdanger 2 года назад
@@gabrielbaker2667 Ive done it multiple times with CRK, Strider, RHK, Emerson. We all have. At some point there are diminishing returns, especially with knives like CRK which (in my experience) are typically collectors knives. 💯🤝
@landscapingspecialist
@landscapingspecialist 2 года назад
Not really. Maybe made in china, but not something to this caliber made in USA for the price.
@landscapingspecialist
@landscapingspecialist 2 года назад
@@skookumdanger I do not carry mine every day, but it does stay in my rotation of knives I carry. Mine is not a collector. But I could see why people do collect them
@arrowheadguys7637
@arrowheadguys7637 2 года назад
@@gabrielbaker2667 I've spent over $1k on a knife before, and I still think CRK are overpriced for a plain handled Ti frame lock knife with a mid-tier blade steel. They don't appeal to me at all.
@gyffesme
@gyffesme Год назад
I recognize the Sabenza’s history and contribution to where are now, but I can’t get past my opposition to the frame lock, esp on knives with scale on only one side ( *shudder* ), Having said that, the We entrant definitely seems the best bang for yer buck on that table. Another excellent offering, DCA.
@landscapingspecialist
@landscapingspecialist 2 года назад
Ti Spine is pretty sweet too, i like that monolithic handle design on it. 👌🏻
@timothythedude5406
@timothythedude5406 2 года назад
The James Brand pricing kills me. Great video
@minibus1351
@minibus1351 2 года назад
the real question is, can you buy a sebenza with waitlists of 2-4 years?
@Deibodese
@Deibodese 2 года назад
Knowing nothing about this situation except for the occasional photo I see posted to Facebook from Instagram (since I don’t have my own Insta account), my guess is 90% of the back-ordered Sebenzas are for guys who already have five or six other Sebs, and who only take them out of a padded Pelican case long enough to kind them up all pretty next to expensive alcohol served in an expensive glass, and take a nice picture of them, then seal them all away again.
@codys5727
@codys5727 2 года назад
There are sebenzas available through retailers currently and can be bought all day on the crk bst facebook pages. The waitlist is only if you're buying direct from CRK. With the prices of inflation for all goods, it isn't unreasonable for them to raise prices accordingly. They make American products and support 40+ families. Some of the wait lists are over 5 years but they're ramping up production and making more knives than ever
@granthaller9544
@granthaller9544 2 года назад
One thing I love about my Sebenza is the ease of cleaning. I can disassemble, clean and reassemble in no time and CRK includes the tools to do it. I suspect some of the knives shown would be difficult to disassemble and may even void your warranty if you do so. If you are worried about getting your knife dirty what’s the point?
@tanosantos1993
@tanosantos1993 8 месяцев назад
Totally agree. Everyone loves an integral until you have to maintenance one. They're a super big pain in the ass to get back together
@charlesschmuckatelli7888
@charlesschmuckatelli7888 5 дней назад
Ive got 2 sabenza 21s that ive used to do all kinds of work. Its popped locks, stripped wire, and tightened screws...none of these things are recommended but it works flawlessly.. .
@joescola7498
@joescola7498 2 года назад
Another awesome BEAT THE ICON video DCA! I'd have to say that Chavez makes some insanely good looking rugged knives. And that ZT AND Shiragorov are gorgeous. I own two integral knives (Benchmade Anthem and Lionsteel SR11A) and the the Anthem is an absolute dream to own and carry.
@doc9404
@doc9404 2 года назад
Bought a set of beacons, one for me and one for my brother, and we both love it, great knife for the price
@thepracticalblade9013
@thepracticalblade9013 2 года назад
I won't re-state what I've said in my review of the Sebenza entirely, but my takeaway is that the Sebenza is a fantastic knife, but almost every other company that produces knives at this price point has closed the gap in today's age as compared to the gap that may have existed ten years ago. In my own words, "It's not that the Sebenza has fallen behind, it's that every other knife has caught up." It's hard to objectively say what "beats" a Sebenza without defining what itmeans for it to be "beaten". No other knife on the market will ever beat Sebenza tolerances - Not because CRK does something magical with their processes, but because the tolerances are what they pride themselves on. My question to someone who is asking if this is relevant, though, is always "The tolerances might be marginally better, but will that marginal difference ever be significant enough to even feel like anything different to you?" I'd argue that the vast majority of people would not be able to pick "the knife with better tolerances" while blindfolded and comparing CRK's to other knives in a similar price range (and quite honestly, around the $300 price point as well). At this point, I say that you're paying for a name, history, brand equity, and the fact that they're made in the USA... but to say that any CRK knife is leaps and bounds above the competition, at this point, is a bit of a stretch. It's not a knock on CRK, it's a compliment to every other knife manufacturer that has come so far.
@phymat1
@phymat1 2 года назад
Had my Sebenza for a little over a year now and love it. Use it daily from general cardboard cutting to harder use cases. Can it be beaten? Yes, certainly but it's still a great knife. Luckily I've had no QC issues with mine but I've heard that not always the case. Also carry a ZT 0562 which is a better slicer but not quite as tough feeling (imo).
@cliffbunyea8416
@cliffbunyea8416 2 года назад
I'm like you w/ the knives. I have two customized ZT 0562Ti(s). You can't beat the metal "bang" they make. Yet, with all of today's, new faster-action, wildly-designed knives, the honorable Sebenza is in a different class.
@phymat1
@phymat1 2 года назад
@@cliffbunyea8416 100% agree.
@gmoorach
@gmoorach 2 года назад
Every so often I contemplate adding a Sebenza to my collection. But, I think the design needs an update. I can't bring myself to buy a Ti frame lock that does not have a steel lock bar insert. Especially considering the price of Sebenzas. Without the steel insert, the titanium isn't wear resistant enough to do well over the long haul. I know the end of the Sebenza lock bars are carbonized. But, I don't think it's enough. I have a friend who has an older Sebenza, where the lock bar is now extremely late, almost touching the opposite handle scale. Also, CRK doesn't want you flick their knives open. Are you kidding me? That's part of the action the majority of knife nuts look for.
@P1GEONPOO
@P1GEONPOO Год назад
They've been updated with a ceramic ball haven't they? Still imo you can get better materials in a more updated design, with similar levels of finish for less money.
@realbroggo
@realbroggo 2 года назад
Great video. CR Sebenza grabs more that its fair share of reviews and show time. Great alternatives here. While the James Brand may be the closest (IMHO) I just love Chaves knives (grail brand). Hard to pin down why - probably a collision between their overbuilt design, compound blades and exacting engineering (thanks Reate). However, as nearly all of these are outside my budget, the closest I'll get to actually owning one is watching this video. 😢
@spyhunter6411
@spyhunter6411 2 года назад
There are definitely better knives for the dollar, especially over seas made. The sebenza 31 still loves in my pocket every day. It's hard to beat their work performance, quality, and manufacturer support.
@RAID5_Aesthetic
@RAID5_Aesthetic 2 месяца назад
And would we now include the Iridium on this list? After a year, maybe run this again.
@NatureWalk1998
@NatureWalk1998 2 года назад
David!!! Do a video on the most unique edc folders, I love a unique knife to show off to the friends! Most unique locks, blades, opening method etc...
@NatureWalk1998
@NatureWalk1998 2 года назад
I love your stuff! You're helped me with my personal collection! I'm newer to the knife game and love it!
@Joe-pw7ky
@Joe-pw7ky 2 года назад
Bought my first Sebenza in 1990 , Over the years I’ve purchased 9 Sebenza’s in total the last one I bought in 2017, They are beautiful show pieces but that’s all they are in my opinion a show piece not a EDC moderate use knife .Every Sebenza I owned had issues with lock disengagement doing moderate cutting tasks, I can’t give the argument that I just got a defective one when I had issues with all 9 purchased over a 27 year span .I’ve only kept my first Sebenza I purchased in 1990 for sentimental reasons the others I sold. Spartan Harsey , Hinder knives and Medfod knives just to name a few have just as good fit and finish in the same price range with Medford being the exception they are considerably more expensive but unlike the Sebenza’s I never had issues with any of those knives doing the same moderate cutting tasks. I still think Sebenza’s are beautiful knives just not a edc
@Krazyabe
@Krazyabe 2 года назад
Interesting. I had the same lock troubles on my spartans. A full size and 3.25. My 21 has always been rock solid.🤷 Guess we are all out here just trying to get lucky with the knife of our dreams🤣🤣🤣
@francescocastanon1601
@francescocastanon1601 Год назад
I think Rockstead could have been included with Higo II (vs Large Sebenza). If you were to release a video of a Gentleman's Pocketknives, please include Nehan vs Mnandi
@sloanNYC
@sloanNYC 3 месяца назад
I've been much happier with my Spartan Blades than I was with my CRK. A lot of great options out there though.
@bardpitt4049
@bardpitt4049 2 года назад
Love my toor merchant so much I bought another. Great knife
@kristyler9497
@kristyler9497 2 года назад
I own a sebenza 25 or inkosi and I love it but I like my zt 0850 better. And now that I've had my vero synapse xl a week I like it more also. Just my opinion on my knives. Great review DCA..
@johndonovan7018
@johndonovan7018 Год назад
this video is bad for my bank account. much excellent. 0 dislikes. thats near impossible for youtube....
@joshchu
@joshchu 7 месяцев назад
OfCourse you can beat the Sebenza, I've seen it done with a CS Code-4 once. 😅
@sergeysobolev1646
@sergeysobolev1646 2 года назад
Great selection. I carry Benchmade 781 Anthem and I think it is a great option too. High quality integral and similar blade shape.
@PhucLe-yn7xe
@PhucLe-yn7xe 2 года назад
One thing not talked about is the warranty, spa and customer service the Sebenza offers! I sent my Sebenza in for spa service and it came back looking New. Can we even reach a person on the phone for some of the other knives ? 🤔
@ブランドン死神
@ブランドン死神 9 месяцев назад
That’s something that most people seem to forget. Not only are you paying for the price for materials and craftsmanship, but you are also paying into the services that come with the knife itself. You can disassemble and reassemble your CRK over and over, and when the day comes that it needs to be serviced years down the line, they have you covered for the life of the knife. Lots of companies do not do that, some even outright claim that disassembly voids your warranty. I just got my first CRK, an Inkosi, but I have full faith that I will be taken care of when need be. So honestly, none of these choices even come close to what you get with CRK.
@stuntmanjohnny
@stuntmanjohnny 2 года назад
You had me at the AC Sirius. Lovely !
@tincansailor9437
@tincansailor9437 2 года назад
I like my plain Ti Arno Bernard iMamba as a Sebenza alternative. It is impeccably made, with a stunningly beautiful hand-rubbed hollow grind. And it's a flipper which, for me, is a great thing.
@Dracomies
@Dracomies Год назад
Damn that looks just like it or has the same vibe. But haha it costs more than a Sebenza 31.
@olafkliemt1145
@olafkliemt1145 Год назад
please forgive me for saying that the best Sebenza homage is the Land 910T2. the 910/910Plus/911/912/913 models are excellent as well.
@user-wy1dl2me2p
@user-wy1dl2me2p 22 дня назад
Alot of beautiful steel and titanium
@pete762x51
@pete762x51 2 года назад
Oh DCA, why do you tease us with an awesome looking knife, namely the Lion Steel Tispine, when it is no longer available? You are such a tease.
@krefcenz
@krefcenz 2 года назад
I like the blood grooves on the Reate!!! };)
@arrowheadguys7637
@arrowheadguys7637 2 года назад
Stop it
@krismartin1181
@krismartin1181 2 года назад
My best friend has at least 4 of these he always asks if I want to see one when we are checking out his collection, I always am unimpressed by them they are nice but not great. I feel like most knives over 200 bucks I like more they are only special if you like them.
@zdbrownie
@zdbrownie 2 года назад
Just cant understand why you would pay that much for a knife when there are so many options that are just as quality for half the price (or less) cant wrap my head around it. However as always everyone is free to spend their money on whatever they wish
@nikolasbbq
@nikolasbbq 2 года назад
Status symbol, doesn't do anything that my spydercos can do. i used to carry microtech amphibians and socoms until I dropped them and realized what a waste of money when I chipped the tips off
@zdbrownie
@zdbrownie 2 года назад
@@nikolasbbq and your spydercos cant really do anything a knife half its price can either. I think there is a fairly fine line of diminishing returns when it comes to materials and QC. Guess it comes down to thinking of a knife as a tool or as pocket jewelry and finding that balance for yourself.
@roverjohn
@roverjohn 2 года назад
Same reason you buy a Rolex or a '68 Mustang. Not that great of a watch for the money and the car really isn't that great either. Both are classics and all three hold their value .
@zdbrownie
@zdbrownie 2 года назад
@@roverjohn Same reason I wouldnt buy a Rolex and cant understand that either, but I get your point. If you got the money guess you gotta spend it on something
@Thomas-dz4eg
@Thomas-dz4eg 2 года назад
Just buy one :)
@ericmack001
@ericmack001 Год назад
My dream knife would be the ultimate version of the Sebenza. I would like either a mirror polished blade, or a Damasteel blade, and timascus scales. This version exists as modded knives. But I would like these features from Chris Reeve directly. I wish Chris Reeve would do a bit more customization to complete with Rockstead, and Shirogorov
@Letsbehonest_edc
@Letsbehonest_edc 2 года назад
I own a large 21 insingo. I say a comparable knife is the ZT 0640. Throw a lynch nw clip on it and imo it's a better knife.
@woodentulike2no
@woodentulike2no 2 года назад
I have bought and sold at least 30 Sebenzas in the last 20 years. If I could have any single one of them back it would be a Large Plain Regular. They always seem to leave me cold for some reason. Try as I might, I just cannot hold onto one for very long.
@landscapingspecialist
@landscapingspecialist 2 года назад
Tables FULL of bangers today 👌🏻👌🏻😌
@Motorcyclewindtherapy
@Motorcyclewindtherapy 2 года назад
I've bought a lot of premium knives...sold off a lot, still have some...but a CF Elite Bugout serrated has kicked every other knife I have to the curb for some time now. I don't see that changing. I can appreciate nice knives now... but I have no desire for any more. Like my old trusty Glock 26 (my edc since 2008) the bugout just does it for me.
@dolguldur4706
@dolguldur4706 2 года назад
Its ok...i can do everything sebenza do with my buck 110 🤘🏻 cheers boi
@arrowheadguys7637
@arrowheadguys7637 2 года назад
Except make anyone envious when you tell them what knife you own. But yeah, other than that I'm sure.
@lmcq784
@lmcq784 2 года назад
I am still waiting to get my first CRK Sebenza... I've REALLY liked the bog oak inlay version, but I'm waiting for Magnacut. Anyways, another suggestion for a "Beat the icon" episode, let's beat these: ESEE Izula; ESEE 6; Condor El Salvador; Morakniv Companion/Garberg/511/kansbol.
@Dracomies
@Dracomies Год назад
M1 Caper for Izula. Fallkniven F1X and Lionsteel M4 and DBK Knife and Patriot Manly and Joker Ember for the wood cutting ones.
@mj1653
@mj1653 2 года назад
I love CRK and own a handful, but considering the crappy quality I have been getting from American companies with their insane prices (and now price hikes), it is easy to beat CRK....and benchmade....and spyderco.....and tactile knife co....and ZT....and on and on. Sad really.
@nubsybarra7432
@nubsybarra7432 2 года назад
What are your recommendations?
@bradgates4230
@bradgates4230 Год назад
I have a Toor admiral, and love it minus the pocket clip (super weak) if they can fix that it'll be a serious contender for more pocket time
@charlesgraham9954
@charlesgraham9954 2 года назад
u know what knife company i was shocked with being so good for the price. Civivi
@andrestorres1799
@andrestorres1799 2 года назад
How do we feel about MBK’s Old Guard in the mix? I liken it to the Kizer T1, but I like the Ray L. design a lot more on the Guard. Food for thought. Great video!
@Krazyabe
@Krazyabe 2 года назад
Beautiful knives. I own a 21 and two old guards. A ti linerlock and one of the newer ones in zdp189. The ti is a great, classy knife and one of the few I own that'll make me put my 21 in the drawer for a few days. The newer one, not so much. It's either very tight(so tight it doesn't always lock when opened) with no blade play, or with blade play and opens so hard the lock sticks...😞 I suppose the real test will come when I try to reach out to MBK to remedy the situation.
@andrestorres1799
@andrestorres1799 2 года назад
I’ve had my eye an a ti old guard, and you may have just made up my mind. Epic that it can compete with your 21! Thanks for the reply.
@Krazyabe
@Krazyabe 2 года назад
I still prefer my 21 for most days but the OG is a great knife too and I would definitely recommend it if you wanted to save a few bucks. Go for the ti linerock if you can find one
@Ripnite
@Ripnite 2 года назад
Recently picked up a Redencion 229 which i can highly recommend (drop point) ,Never held a CR so i can not compare it,but the 229 is totally worth all the money
@Bert4s
@Bert4s 2 года назад
Now days you can buy 15 QSP Penguins for the price of one plain sebenza.
@harrycrab8725
@harrycrab8725 2 года назад
Yep, and then you’d own 15 QSP Penguins :) I understand the price difference, but isn’t that the limit of any meaningful comparison?
@arrowheadguys7637
@arrowheadguys7637 2 года назад
@@harrycrab8725 Or you could get on a waiting list for that 1 Sebenza and maybe get it in 2 years lol.
@EgoitzSalsamendi
@EgoitzSalsamendi Год назад
Hey man! What about the Real Steel Phasma in titanium and M390 steel? Keep the excellent work! Cheers!
@marksmith351
@marksmith351 2 года назад
“LionSteel TiSpine” does not exist on your website (except for the discontinued version). The TS1 doesn’t exist on your website either.
@beebait1464
@beebait1464 2 года назад
While the sabenza is a fine piece of cutlery it is showing its age as far as overall design. The price is still fairly reasonable and if you look at USA made specifically there aren't nearly as many alternatives. I think a good comparison is the AD20. USA made and around the same price point and fit and finish and arguably the strongest lock mechanism but also inluding a buttery smooth deployment and a more recent trend being more fidgety. My point is for a company that set the standard back in the day they don't seem to be the gold standard today as a company.
@koomo801
@koomo801 2 года назад
100% agree! But one big difference...CRKs are widely available with just a little searching. AD20s are almost unicorns.
@byjynydjshsnny2430
@byjynydjshsnny2430 Год назад
the sebenza is not a "hard use knife" not like the ad 20 with its flimsy construction and ball bearings. they are a completely different category of knives. they are still the gold standard has nothing to do with some other knive with a randomly strong lock.
@thefrenchkaddict
@thefrenchkaddict 2 года назад
Hey DCA, for me the main competitors are inside the CRK family. The Inkosi and before all the Umnumzaan are what can beat the Sebenza.
@slick_slicers
@slick_slicers 2 года назад
The real omission here was the Rockstead Higo and Hizen. They share the bushing pivot that the Sebenza uses. Of course the blades are different class, but in my collection, these knives are the closest competitors for my pocket!
@jamesR1990
@jamesR1990 2 года назад
I'd rather have my Shirogorov F3 that I carry and use every day or my TRM Atom which is under 50% the price of a Sebinza but cuts better and has a better steel.
@sharpshizz
@sharpshizz 2 года назад
Yeah I have a couple of F95s that are just as capable as a Sebbie and flip like gymnasts fidget factor surpasses the CRKs
@edrader
@edrader 2 года назад
we esprit titanium for me
@nubsybarra7432
@nubsybarra7432 2 года назад
TRM might be the most underrated knife in the sub-$500 range
@jamesR1990
@jamesR1990 2 года назад
@@nubsybarra7432 completely agree. It dethroned and kicked all Spydercos, Benchmades, WE, etc from my rotation. Heck it ended my rotation 😆
@mfreeman313
@mfreeman313 2 года назад
Did you like that Kizer T1, folks? Beautiful action, innit? And a great-looking knife. I sure thought so. So I bought one. And got one with what I now know is the famous brutally tight and finicky detent. Struggled with it all day until my thumb literally bled. Yes, I know about staying off the lock bar. So, so disappointed and angry. Beautiful packaging, though, very nice. Black and silver. Very classy. You can tell you've got a premium knife in every way except how it works.
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