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Before God Was God 

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Before the God of Israel was understood to be the sole omnipotent God of the universe, Yahweh (or "Jehovah") was worshiped as part of a pantheon of gods that included Ba'al, El, and Asherah. Guest lecturer Leandro Palacios will present an introduction to ancient Canaanite mythology and its relationship to Israelite religion of the first temple period.

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@rodneyhatch56
@rodneyhatch56 9 месяцев назад
As an Atheist I find Centre Place interesting. The evolution of the god concept in the minds of Homo sapien sapien seems aligned with the evolution of culture.
@TisEYEthe1
@TisEYEthe1 9 месяцев назад
@rodneyhatch56, I'm also an Atheist/Agnostic who finds Centre Place and Godly concepts in general quite interesting. I even occasionally visit random churches just to see what's going on in the world of the "God believers." I of course cannot prove that God either exists or does not exist, but I'll admit that God is at least an interesting topic of discussion.
@JameyKirby
@JameyKirby 7 месяцев назад
@@TisEYEthe1 You don't have to prove his non-existance. If is up to the beleivers to prove he exists.
@garymensurati1631
@garymensurati1631 2 месяца назад
Homo Sapian-Sapian is key ! Not the same creature currently in power, in my view.Teraforming in progress, how can people not see what's happening ?
@charlesbadrock
@charlesbadrock 9 месяцев назад
Mythology is very powerful in the human psyche
@arthursmom
@arthursmom 3 месяца назад
Great guest lecturer! This was very enjoyable and informative..thank you!
@centre-place
@centre-place 3 месяца назад
Glad you enjoyed it!
@terrydillon9323
@terrydillon9323 Год назад
I don’t think we humans really know much about the universe and never will, maybe we are not suppose to .
@garymensurati1631
@garymensurati1631 2 месяца назад
Seems that way Maybe one day the truth will be revealed.
@vigilance6806
@vigilance6806 7 дней назад
@@garymensurati1631or not. We really don’t know anything. You can dedicate a lifetime to searching and conclude nothing. Personally that’s what eventually turned me from a theist to agnostic.
@Santiagojsanchez95
@Santiagojsanchez95 4 года назад
This was an extremely educative and interesting lecture. Very eye opening. I too am from Argentina and here it is very catholic, my curiosity took me to this journey of trying to find the truth about god and the bible, so this video has helped a lot
@krono5el
@krono5el 4 года назад
monotheism tried to destroy the Mayan culture but we were around thousands of years before abrahamic religions were inverted and that amount of civilization can't just be erased.
@MBEG89
@MBEG89 4 года назад
@@krono5el a shame how little we know about ancient american culture.
@phanx0m924
@phanx0m924 3 года назад
So you believe it's fake?
@michaelturnage3395
@michaelturnage3395 3 года назад
See Dr. Michael Heiser.
@krono5el
@krono5el 3 года назад
@@michaelturnage3395 ask any expert the Maya and inca were eons ahead of the spanish in medicine, the first plague that almost wiped out europe and spain was cured by a plant in the Americas that the natives already had figured out. without their knowledge of medicine europe would have been gone and maybe thats what should have happened.
@user-gb8fl4hk9x
@user-gb8fl4hk9x 9 месяцев назад
The God El is before yahweh, and the silliness keeps on coming.
@damianedwards8827
@damianedwards8827 9 месяцев назад
WHOA! The Problem Atheists have is they Unnecessarily Overcomplicate it God is simply the Existence of Love. Everybody Believes Love exists Simple but infinite in Expression and Power To ignore that fact is not only Unfortunate It’s Shameful
@user-gb8fl4hk9x
@user-gb8fl4hk9x 9 месяцев назад
@@damianedwards8827 you are talking about a being that is a mystery! Do you know of anybody ever talking with God, a general conversation which God talks to the person? WHERE IS THE WISDOM AND LOVE OF GOD TOWARD MANKIND WHEN GOD HAS KILLED? Are you smarter than people in antiquity who 95% were illiterate.And you believe every word in the Bible no matter how many errors and contradictions and people that are schizophrenia bound seeing and hearing voices. You know that in antiquity people thought God was the weather,and bad things that happened to them were cause by not obeying their God! And you believe in angles coming to tell people of things that were going to happen? You know that most prophecies were done and happened when they wrote them down. And 2000 years and you believe in John prophecies in revelation? Where is wisdom when you have none?
@user-gb8fl4hk9x
@user-gb8fl4hk9x 9 месяцев назад
@@damianedwards8827 I have the Bible many times and other books not put in the canons of the Bible, and most are pure nonsense. And you belief in a books that has God loving the smell of burning flesh. Have took the time to read the old laws of the Old Testament. They are barbaric. Are you a Christian Nationalist?
@luissegovia1932
@luissegovia1932 9 месяцев назад
Yahweh is HIS Holy name, Elohim is HIS divine title and as the Holy Spirit HE is Yahshua ( Yahweh's salvation).
@user-gb8fl4hk9x
@user-gb8fl4hk9x 9 месяцев назад
@@luissegovia1932 what does that mean? We do not live in antiquity! And if you are so foolish to believe that the names of the Gods are anything. You haven’t read much about them! We live in a muti universe maybe 12 dimensions think that before you looks at Gods,
@lisamaria661
@lisamaria661 7 месяцев назад
I can not thank you enough! I learn many things when I Iisten each time. 😊💯💛🙏
@jvharbin8337
@jvharbin8337 3 года назад
Everything that happened between Noah and Ham is one of the most highly contested parts of the old testament.
@VigilanteMian
@VigilanteMian 9 месяцев назад
God has always been there.
@littleKasuni
@littleKasuni 2 месяца назад
Which one?
@VigilanteMian
@VigilanteMian 2 месяца назад
@@littleKasuni There is only one God - the Creator of heavens and earth.
@vigilance6806
@vigilance6806 7 дней назад
@@VigilanteMianlol. If only the truth was so certain and simple. Fact is none of us can know for certain anything in this life.
@gphilipvirgil355
@gphilipvirgil355 9 месяцев назад
Fascinating. Thank you.
@ObjectiveEthics
@ObjectiveEthics Год назад
Great lecture as always. My only complaint would be that you didn't start showing close up shots of the slides until 18:20 so the first several slides were missed. Otherwise this was an excellent presentation. Thank you.
@dianecollier7177
@dianecollier7177 9 месяцев назад
There has never been any time when God wasn't God
@truartemedia
@truartemedia 4 года назад
This course will no appear in Sunday schools.
@matthewdowns9507
@matthewdowns9507 3 года назад
@Lerory Jiggins weird flex , dude just said you are not going to hear this in sunday school, and then you ranted with that?
@matthewdowns9507
@matthewdowns9507 3 года назад
@Lerory Jiggins not trying to disprove you, neither is the person above. weird flexing still.
@letsomethingshine
@letsomethingshine 3 года назад
It's so easy to teach people towards being angry and pedantic. They should be careful, as anger is the easiest emotion to use to manipulate people. Obviously, checkable details are important in their correct context, sure. This thread and forum might serve or it might not. So know that Mithra is not a Roman god, and yet it made it to Rome and became strong (strongly believed by those in power) in the Roman Empire. So then it becomes evidenced that the self-appointed priests will always start their grift anywhere they are banished to as long as there is fertile ground for them to fleece. Nature banishes them from their previous posts. Old-line Kings banish them. New-conquering Emperors banish them. But their livelihood is corrupt and biased from the start, so they have desperation as a strong and empowering motivation. Buddha, the Blessed Fig and the First Bloomed Lotus, teaches that we need to have the proper livelihood. Our livelihood's control our biases, and so paint our vision and edit our memories towards maintaining the status quo.
@brentwalker3300
@brentwalker3300 3 года назад
True that.
@jared_r
@jared_r 2 года назад
@Lerory Jiggins You say “this Canaanite god is actually an Egyptian god.” I don’t think anyone can claim ownership of a god…
@turnthevaliumup10ok26
@turnthevaliumup10ok26 Год назад
You really should fix the audio and reupload the videos all are so quiet I have to turn it all the way up and get blasted on the next video
@mariob7791
@mariob7791 2 года назад
Excellent, in my view, this is all about unraveling the story of how we humans evolved very early on in our quest for understanding, of deciphering our ways of connecting with the divine. It's a continuum, which I suppose will have to be taken up again as a modern understanding in the future built on an increasingly solid past. Thank you so much!
@Mar-dk3mp
@Mar-dk3mp Год назад
And that Becuase you western Godless and Souless robot corrupted by a wealthy Society now you say it??? Is it that a new theory front you Western and Godless idiot because you do not know what to do with science once you are death ☠️???... Poor Freaking robot 🤖 without soul 😂😂. From nothing they come nothing they will be, very nice thinking you western godless and Souless idiot.. 😂😂 Jesus called viper and knew that you will be betrayed him, that why he said he comes to bring a sword ⚔️ and not peace, which means there will be people who will believe him and not who will not, so why you western Godless Idiot let him be right? 😊
@PoeLemic
@PoeLemic 3 года назад
I so wish that this would have been recorded a little better, where I could read the text on the slides. Please, improve the camera where these awesome videos can be preserved better.
@PoeLemic
@PoeLemic 3 года назад
See, I like how you do it at 19:25 or so. That should be done on every slide where we can read and see what is being said.
@garymensurati1631
@garymensurati1631 2 месяца назад
Excellent. Thank you. Blessings to all
@glenn-younger
@glenn-younger 2 года назад
I'm wondering if other people would find it helpful for you to include dates on your slides? I know it would've helped me. At any rate, I had my phone in hand to look them up so it wasn't the end of the world. Thank you for sharing!
@Mar-dk3mp
@Mar-dk3mp Год назад
And that Becuase you western Godless and Souless robot corrupted by a wealthy Society now you say it??? Is it that a new theory front you Western and Godless idiot because you do not know what to do with science once you are death ☠️???... Poor Freaking robot 🤖 without soul 😂😂. From nothing they come nothing they will be, very nice thinking you western godless and Souless idiot.. 😂😂 Jesus called viper and knew that you will be betrayed him, that why he said he comes to bring a sword ⚔️ and not peace, which means there will be people who will believe him and not who will not, so why you western Godless Idiot let him be right? 😊
@Mar-dk3mp
@Mar-dk3mp Год назад
To be a freaking Souless robot, western godless idiot??? 🤣🤣🤣
@longcastle4863
@longcastle4863 4 месяца назад
Excellent lecture.
@JonBrownSherman
@JonBrownSherman 23 дня назад
Great video but wow is this audio quality terrible, it's sooo quiet! I understand that this is 6 years old so it's kind of a moot point, but I've noticed that even in the newer videos on this channel that he audio level is too low. Thank you for all your hard work though!
@AtamMardes
@AtamMardes Год назад
In the beginning, man made God.
@Amanda-cd6dm
@Amanda-cd6dm Год назад
It also have to say condemning the golden calf to raise up the bronze serpent is no better
@jvharbin8337
@jvharbin8337 3 года назад
The Jews were told many times to take down their Asherah Poles. I always wondered what those were.
@annalysis1312
@annalysis1312 5 лет назад
Very good presentation. I like the way you explained the old version of the gods from the Bronze Age to the new gods in the Iron Age.
@yaruqadishi8326
@yaruqadishi8326 4 года назад
Canaanite True Canaanite were well in control still the Iron middle to even late along side the jews/hebrew of during their rise and after.
@Mar-dk3mp
@Mar-dk3mp Год назад
And that Becuase you western Godless and Souless robot corrupted by a wealthy Society now you say it??? Is it that a new theory front you Western and Godless idiot because you do not know what to do with science once you are death ☠️???... Poor Freaking robot 🤖 without soul 😂😂. From nothing they come nothing they will be, very nice thinking you western godless and Souless idiot.. 😂😂 Jesus called viper and knew that you will be betrayed him, that why he said he comes to bring a sword ⚔️ and not peace, which means there will be people who will believe him and not who will not, so why you western Godless Idiot let him be right? 😊
@Mar-dk3mp
@Mar-dk3mp Год назад
@@yaruqadishi8326 And that Becuase you western Godless and Souless robot corrupted by a wealthy Society now you say it??? Is it that a new theory front you Western and Godless idiot because you do not know what to do with science once you are death ☠️???... Poor Freaking robot 🤖 without soul 😂😂. From nothing they come nothing they will be, very nice thinking you western godless and Souless idiot.. 😂😂 Jesus called viper and knew that you will be betrayed him, that why he said he comes to bring a sword ⚔️ and not peace, which means there will be people who will believe him and not who will not, so why you western Godless Idiot let him be right? 😊
@Mar-dk3mp
@Mar-dk3mp Год назад
Ye because you are wester godelss and Souless idiot...
@yaruqadishi8326
@yaruqadishi8326 Год назад
@@Mar-dk3mp are you stupid or something someone who is Godless like you calling me what you are only makes you and the Jesus guy more Godless than before that's just babbling that's blabbering really you have nothing valid to say nothing good to say just bunch of lies and opinions
@user-iy4fc7ov7b
@user-iy4fc7ov7b 9 месяцев назад
great stuff!!!on another note maybe we should have gotten a what is a women introduction class ??/
@telforenyte7632
@telforenyte7632 Год назад
God doesn't change. Man's understanding of God.... and what God chooses to reveal changes one must be able to drink milk b4 one can eat meat
@OperatorOscillation
@OperatorOscillation 5 лет назад
Baal was still worshipped at the time of the New Testament under the name Jupiter Dolichenus. He had his own mystery cult headquartered in Syria but had temples all over the empire from North Africa to the Danube in Europe.
@illuminickiblanco
@illuminickiblanco 4 года назад
Makes me wonder if that's why Syria is going through strife bc of this.. thx for sharing, I'm still a novice in truth..
@OperatorOscillation
@OperatorOscillation 4 года назад
Nicki Blanco What’s going on in Syria today probably has more to do with Russia and Israel rather than Syria itself, but then again we’re all novices in truth. It’s dangerous to forget that.
@illuminickiblanco
@illuminickiblanco 4 года назад
@@OperatorOscillation absolutely, but I guarantee u know alot more than I lol but I don't mind learning :)
@OperatorOscillation
@OperatorOscillation 4 года назад
Nicki Blanco When it comes to history, that might be true, but when it comes to politics, I’m not the best person to learn from. One narrative says that there’s a proxy war between Russia and Israel in Syria, another says that Putin is a Zionist who is better for the Jews than he is for Russia. How can there be a proxy war between Russia and Israel if Putin is a Zionist? I have no idea. History, on the other hand, is a little easier than politics because it’s just a matter of learning what the victors wrote.
@illuminickiblanco
@illuminickiblanco 4 года назад
@@OperatorOscillation do u make content?
@Amanda-cd6dm
@Amanda-cd6dm 2 года назад
If God never changes, and you claim Jesus Christ is God(although the Bible text reads: God and his Christ), why is Jesus so different from Yahweh? Christians claim Yahweh was too violent and Jesus Christ was not, obviously that is a change.
@anthonybieniek4700
@anthonybieniek4700 5 месяцев назад
great presentation who is the presenter
@davidvest6299
@davidvest6299 3 года назад
How would one go about attending one of these in person ! Great presentation.
@centre-place
@centre-place 3 года назад
Unfortunately we are not open for in person events at the moment but will resume once conditions are safe for everyone.
@PoeLemic
@PoeLemic 3 года назад
@@centre-place Can you improve the camera where we can actually read the slides too? This camera is lower resolution so I can't read what is shown on the screen.
@zamiel3
@zamiel3 2 года назад
@@PoeLemic You could donate a better camera to them.
@sandraleiva1633
@sandraleiva1633 Год назад
@@zamiel3 If someone is putting videos up to be viewed by the masses then opinions must be accepted.
@zamiel3
@zamiel3 Год назад
@@sandraleiva1633 I didn't say opinions shouldn't be welcome. I am sure they would be just as accepting of the donation of a HD camera as well. Don't walk through life with such a narrow view.
@chuck-N-mz9gg
@chuck-N-mz9gg 9 месяцев назад
God by definition is the Creator of all things, including space and time. In this sense, there is no so-called 'before' to God.
@jokerjonesjjp5522
@jokerjonesjjp5522 9 месяцев назад
Not always the case
@JameyKirby
@JameyKirby 7 месяцев назад
Ok, how about before we started praising him? Did everyone go to hell 20,000 years ago?
@valentinann7823
@valentinann7823 Год назад
Thank you so much for sharing these lectures ( thank god for RU-vid 😉). It is fascinating. At school I learned that religions were created by primitive people. But when I listen to this I'm amazed by those people observing the life on earth and trying to explaine how the world functions without all the knowledge and science we have by creating such beautiful though sometimes cruel stories.
@damianedwards8827
@damianedwards8827 9 месяцев назад
WHOA! The Problem Atheists have is they Unnecessarily Overcomplicate it God is simply the Existence of Love. Everybody Believes Love exists Simple but infinite in Expression and Power To ignore that fact is not only Unfortunate It’s Shameful
@evangelicalsnever-lie9792
@evangelicalsnever-lie9792 9 месяцев назад
The subject of presuppositional, so-called "gods" is a heavily divided subject. Who says your opinion is correct? Besides, why does the god you think exists, matter?
@damianedwards8827
@damianedwards8827 9 месяцев назад
@@evangelicalsnever-lie9792 Oh Snap. You just said Love doesn’t Matter???
@evangelicalsnever-lie9792
@evangelicalsnever-lie9792 9 месяцев назад
@@damianedwards8827 Why are you dodging the question? I asked you who says your opinions are correct, and *why does your god matter?* In others words, if people don't believe you, so what? Unless you state there are consequences for not believing you, then how does your belief matter?
@mcdibyoe
@mcdibyoe 9 месяцев назад
Before God was God it was the WORD. And when it wanted Light it just went "click" and voila, there was Light
@PetouKan
@PetouKan Год назад
Hi there. Thank you for the lovely presentation. The work of archeologist David Rohl may be of great interest to you. Basically: discovered a likely mistake in Egypt chronology, realigned it with the rest of history, and realized the archeological record was not very thin regarding Israel, but actually quite rich, simply because evidence of Israel was always there, but unidentified as them for chronological reasons. If his work isn't fully recognized, I think it's at least good to be aware of it when you touch this topic. Blessings
@michaeldeaton
@michaeldeaton 9 месяцев назад
Hes a kook and not even an effing archaeologist. He is one of the frauds who gets an ancillary to archaeology degree, calls himself an archaeologist, has no formal training, does no real work in the field, and literally just looks to confirm the Bible any way he can. His work isnt accepted for the same reason Ron Wyatt is rejected: they arent credible, they arent archaeologists, and theyve done no real credible work in the field. Took me two seconds in google to see this. I have an actual anthropology bachelor's in mortuary archaeology. I have more credibility in the field than he does and I havent done archaeology work professionally in a decade. The only good in knowing who he is comes from being able to tell credulous people like yourself that he isnt an effing archaeologist at all and nothing he has to say on Egyptian chronology and Israelite history is worth listening to
@mschristineytchannel8056
@mschristineytchannel8056 4 года назад
done watching and its worth it to watch, Cheers to the success of your growing channel count me in 💓 see yah around 😊
@magnitudematrix2653
@magnitudematrix2653 3 года назад
I think you should look into the Thunderbolts Project, you will see why people thought the way they did long ago. Did you know that angels was ancient speak for planets? Once I found that out reading the Bible makes a lot more since.
@mikekapnerarcangeluriel8006
@mikekapnerarcangeluriel8006 3 года назад
I AM THE GREAT I AM
@eveevolution1607
@eveevolution1607 3 года назад
Humans have changed the order of divine domain which can be connected to the astrology periods and evolution of human thought and Neuropathways each age has a metal, mind frame and sign. Welcome to the Age or Aquarius ♒️ where information is fully digital we question everything and are no longer accepting narratives created for us but we have been blessed the ability to create our own. Enjoyed this!
@Amanda-cd6dm
@Amanda-cd6dm Год назад
Each age has a metal because of Azazel
@fitzfitzgerald1249
@fitzfitzgerald1249 2 года назад
God Never Changes but His Dresses do!
@kenmcclellan
@kenmcclellan Год назад
Baal was the god who didn't have his own house of the zodiac. So he was the one who got around. Which means he's a marker who moves around the Zodiac. Like the important 1st of Aries. So the question is which celestial object firmly marks the 1st of Aries (such as Horus/Horon). Say next year begins the Age of Aquarius (some thought so). There are five objects to consider. Mars, who owns the house of Aries, is at Orion where he could get immolated as Bull of Heaven if Sirius or Betelgeuse were to go off on the Ram/Yuga cycle, as happened around 4411 BC. Jupiter, who has been at the 1st of Aries since about April 30, 2022 will be joined March 1, 2023 by Venus (think Inanna rising from the Underworld as Dumuzi falls ... he is the Dragon and she is the Phoenix). Exoplanets to consider would be Nemesis and Nibiru ... that you probably won't consider until you notice them in the heavens. Not to worry. The mysteries are about to be made apparent. Luke 8:17.
@ItzAngelusPrinze
@ItzAngelusPrinze 9 месяцев назад
you should have titled the video "Before Yahweh was GOD over Gods"
@asuncioncarrizales4199
@asuncioncarrizales4199 Год назад
Wasn’t expecting to hear Justin Bieber’s name in this video💀
@StephanieSoressi
@StephanieSoressi 6 месяцев назад
Did you mean "sacrifice"? Did El decide to eat Baal? Sacrifice means to make sacred before eating. We sacrifice now by saying grace before meals. To kill in order to give to the gods is an offering. The world of the dead was the spirit world of the gods, which is why you killed what you offered to a god. So why would El need to kill Baal, if he is already in the spirit world?
@Amanda-cd6dm
@Amanda-cd6dm Год назад
I mean on the very first page of the Bible it says that it was translated out of the original tongues okay well when Noah's family survived the flood it says that they all had their own tongues meaning they all spoke different languages so tell me again how the Tower of Babel happened and they all had one tongue?
@tappingninja
@tappingninja 3 года назад
What an amazing head of hair...
@kyliereed200
@kyliereed200 3 года назад
Agreed!
@traceyolsen308
@traceyolsen308 3 года назад
Yes , really gorgeous, I hope he'll grow it even longer!
@Islamisthecultofsin
@Islamisthecultofsin 3 года назад
@@traceyolsen308 I thought he was a woman.
@vand13m0n5
@vand13m0n5 3 года назад
@@kyliereed2000
@jvharbin8337
@jvharbin8337 3 года назад
You have lost your mind
@theawakeningheard410
@theawakeningheard410 Год назад
This is as good as it gets for me. Thank you so much for the knowledge and even handed presentation.
@jennyd_1111
@jennyd_1111 11 месяцев назад
Thank you for making this!!
@wunderwirkstattjoli2868
@wunderwirkstattjoli2868 6 месяцев назад
Thanks a lot, would it be possible to get the powerpoint-pictures?
@traceyolsen308
@traceyolsen308 3 года назад
Another lecturer was saying there is evidence Moloch meant the sacrifice, often the moloch was to YHWH, apparently the God wanted the first born of peoples possessions, (goats, sheep, children) after the eight day of their birth. (but not all groups did this)...what did the God want these sacrifices for? Did He eat them? Take them up to the Spirit World to serve Him or generally be useful? Is there an explanation for this?
@cheerupjon
@cheerupjon 2 года назад
it was assumed sacrifices to Moloch would bring good fortunes and vegetation for the Canaanites. Moloch was their Sun god, the bull god, and Ba’al was their Wind/Storm god.
@olivergoodness7694
@olivergoodness7694 9 месяцев назад
The God of the Bible do not change. Before Hebrews there was malachi 3:6-10
@luluadapa5222
@luluadapa5222 Год назад
Thank you, yet again for another fascinating talk and discussion! Namaste 💜🙏
@MBEG89
@MBEG89 4 года назад
The old testament seems to know a lot about a religion it wants nothing to do with. Notice how it only concerns itself with negating very specific things. The writers of the old testament spanned many religions and societies, and yet baal and asherah seem to be mentioned over much larger gods.
@chilakachilaka2071
@chilakachilaka2071 3 года назад
Because it was common In their days
@MBEG89
@MBEG89 3 года назад
@@chilakachilaka2071 the writers spanned many religions and societies so its not that simple.
@chilakachilaka2071
@chilakachilaka2071 3 года назад
@@MBEG89 the truth is we can try to be very logical about things,and look at it from that angle. But there is a spiritual angle to it. You can only find out for yourself. There is more than meets the eye. But anyways though,it nice chatting with you.
@anibalarbogast4507
@anibalarbogast4507 5 лет назад
Excellent exposition, congratulations
@jvharbin8337
@jvharbin8337 3 года назад
What is that talking in this video?
@OLDTESTAMENTSILVER
@OLDTESTAMENTSILVER 2 года назад
Haha, I agree WTF
@langreeves6419
@langreeves6419 Год назад
Maybe you have a problem with your Internet connection I only hear the lecturer talking
@neonpop80
@neonpop80 3 года назад
This was great. Any recommended literature that follows the YHWH line?
@kyliereed200
@kyliereed200 3 года назад
@G♀️D isisian G♀️D Really? How so?
@jean-rochdion4898
@jean-rochdion4898 2 года назад
YHWH....well a cube as many line!!!
@davidking3089
@davidking3089 9 месяцев назад
GOD JEHOVAH HAS ALWAYS BEEN GOD JEHOVAH! HE WILL ALWAYS BE GOD JEHOVAH FOREVER & EVER ALWAYS! WITH OUT THERE WAS NOTHING MADE THAT WAS MADE! GLORY TO HIS NAME! HALLELUJAH!😃
@Burntayo
@Burntayo 9 месяцев назад
You do understand Hallelujah translates to praise Yah, as in Yahweh, yes?
@hughlowe4431
@hughlowe4431 3 года назад
Very very good rendition of the history of the gods
@Mar-dk3mp
@Mar-dk3mp Год назад
And that Becuase you western Godless and Souless robot corrupted by a wealthy Society now you say it??? Is it that a new theory front you Western and Godless idiot because you do not know what to do with science once you are death ☠️???... Poor Freaking robot 🤖 without soul 😂😂. From nothing they come nothing they will be, very nice thinking you western godless and Souless idiot.. 😂😂 Jesus called viper and knew that you will be betrayed him, that why he said he comes to bring a sword ⚔️ and not peace, which means there will be people who will believe him and not who will not, so why you western Godless Idiot let him be right? 😊
@Mar-dk3mp
@Mar-dk3mp Год назад
And that Becuase you western Godless and Souless robot corrupted by a wealthy Society now you say it??? Is it that a new theory front you Western and Godless idiot because you do not know what to do with science once you are death ☠️???... Poor Freaking robot 🤖 without soul 😂😂. From nothing they come nothing they will be, very nice thinking you western godless and Souless idiot.. 😂😂 Jesus called viper and knew that you will be betrayed him, that why he said he comes to bring a sword ⚔️ and not peace, which means there will be people who will believe him and not who will not, so why you western Godless Idiot let him be right? 😊See godless and Souless idiots talking about a God that they do not have, it is like to someone who spend a lot of time studing aliens or saints claus in which he does not believe. 🤣🤣🤣
@kiquito
@kiquito 4 года назад
I am veryinterested in this stuff. Are there citations? Especially if there are clay tablets or other resources to visually see with this info
@JohnDoe-zy6tm
@JohnDoe-zy6tm 3 года назад
Google Ugaritic Texts in Google scholar. Enjoy
@Amanda-cd6dm
@Amanda-cd6dm Год назад
So basically we're back to Worshiping the Sun. The Sunne in his righteousness shall rise. I worshipped the creator of the sun and everything and everyone else.
@lunaatunaa2567
@lunaatunaa2567 5 лет назад
Nephil IM - a species of half-human half angels Lil IM - a species born of Lilith Seraph IM - a species of angel born of "Saraph" which is a word for serpent ironically. Cherub IM - a species of angel surrounding gods Chariot, Cher-ub, Char-iot Eloh IM -
@jerryroberts8367
@jerryroberts8367 5 лет назад
lunaa tunaa nephilim were the ones from heaven who “came down”, this the Hebrew root Nephal. The hybrid giants were the Canaanite peoples who descended from the Nephilim.
@derianschmidt7252
@derianschmidt7252 5 лет назад
@@jerryroberts8367 No the rogue angels were the ones who came down, the Nephilim were the offspring of the angels and moral women. The Giants the Hebrews dealt with were products of the Nephilim blood passed down through Noah's family.
@lookoutkiki4294
@lookoutkiki4294 5 лет назад
@@jerryroberts8367 exactly thats what I was thinking
@jonjohnson5542
@jonjohnson5542 4 года назад
I M that I M or I iM that i IM
@deevox6512
@deevox6512 4 года назад
derian schmidt Nephal is a Hebrew toot meaning “to come down”. The giant hybrids did not come down from above. They were earth born. The Nephilim are those who came down to earth. - I figured you would understand that it would be fallen angels who would come down from above? Nephilim are angels who came down to earth. The giants were their kids. Demons aren’t fallen angels. Demons are the disembodied spirits of the giants who were killed in the flood. That is the original biblical narrative.
@TheMargarita1948
@TheMargarita1948 10 месяцев назад
Genomic research shows no difference between Canaanites and Israelites. They were the same people. I interpret the story as: the Israelites emerged from the Canaanite culture in a similar way that the Mormons arose out of Western European Christian culture. The Mormons are not a “separate ethnicity “ from Western Europeans. They just created a slightly different form of the Western European culture, including some aspects of religion.
@MichaelAllen-po4eo
@MichaelAllen-po4eo Год назад
Why does every presenter on this channel seem to be a pre-op MTF?
@a-3841
@a-3841 9 месяцев назад
Maybe they are? Or maybe they just don't meet your specific standards? What a weird, shallow thing to take from a lecture. Let people live.
@user-nt4wc7ix7j
@user-nt4wc7ix7j 6 лет назад
This was enjoyable, thank you. It would be nice to have the inclusion of the evolution of henotheism to monolatry to monotheism and would be easy to incorporate in your talk as well, if repeated. This would help when understanding the early near east cultures and even Christianity, due to the view of Satan as "the God of this world." With Satan not being completely subordinate to God, in the new testament, and certain beliefs about the trinity, many would consider Christianity henotheistic. While in the old testament, Satan was completely subordinate to God. In fact being one of the few characters that never gets punished for disobedience to God.
@centre-place
@centre-place 6 лет назад
Thank you John. We have a few lectures currently only available on our Facebook page that expand the content of this presentation. We will add this to this channel shortly but you can also find them here www.centreplace.ca/lectures.
@centre-place
@centre-place 6 лет назад
Also this lecture is a follow up to Before God was God ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-o6DDnAjWEsc.html
@user-nt4wc7ix7j
@user-nt4wc7ix7j 6 лет назад
Centre Place Thank you! Looks like more interesting lecture topics you have available there. I will definitely check them out.
@jerryjones5453
@jerryjones5453 4 года назад
Christ sayn has father will not punish or harm he does not have that power.. all he can do is send a message for us to hear. Only we have the power to change that's why the son says he can not help us. He can only give us the father's words that's it......
@rickbuckna2972
@rickbuckna2972 3 года назад
@Nen_ Master well what would be the point of free will? If we didn’t have it, many would say God is not fair. He is very fair.. we all have to make a decision for ourselves. God does not send people to hell.. most of mankind will send themselves. People don’t want to take responsibility for their actions but look to the sky for for redemption. Horrible mentality of mankind. Another representation of how egotistical the spirit of man is.
@frozengoat5834
@frozengoat5834 Год назад
Anyway to make it louder? Am i the only one that can barely hear him? And usualy i keep my volume on very low because everything on the internet is too loud for me, really sensitive ears. So when i turn my volume on my comp and speakers to max and still can barely hear it i feel like maybe...
@ErikHolten
@ErikHolten 6 месяцев назад
I recommend cheap earbuds. No problems with the audio here.
@abraferrazify
@abraferrazify 4 года назад
Great lecture!!! I recommend the book The rise of monoteism and Yahweh's appropriation of Baal
@centre-place
@centre-place 4 года назад
Thank you for the recommendation, are you refereeing to the book by James S Anderson?
@abraferrazify
@abraferrazify 4 года назад
Yes I've recently read it, amazing
@centre-place
@centre-place 4 года назад
@@abraferrazify Very good reading indeed, we are investigating some of the sources to check his conclusion that the Omrides introduced the cult of Yahweh in order to unite the northern kingdom.
@abraferrazify
@abraferrazify 4 года назад
You guys are amazing I'm watching most of your other videos thanks for the excellency
@abraferrazify
@abraferrazify 4 года назад
Very informative discussion. Thanks.
@luckyvsmith4379
@luckyvsmith4379 9 месяцев назад
Before God was Yahweh, he was actually Wodin/Odin.
@mariannemoroney2922
@mariannemoroney2922 4 года назад
excellent session. Thank you
@junejhunkie
@junejhunkie 3 года назад
Where did the thumbnail came from?
@alexwohlfarth3395
@alexwohlfarth3395 2 года назад
God bless you
@tarafahomsy
@tarafahomsy Год назад
As a Levantian, I pass, on behalf of my ancestors, greetings and wishes that you find entertainment in these stories. It is interesting that such stories continue to shape the world throughout thousands of years to this day and age.
@Mar-dk3mp
@Mar-dk3mp Год назад
And that Becuase you western Godless and Souless robot corrupted by a wealthy Society now you say it??? Is it that a new theory front you Western and Godless idiot because you do not know what to do with science once you are death ☠️???... Poor Freaking robot 🤖 without soul 😂😂. From nothing they come nothing they will be, very nice thinking you western godless and Souless idiot.. 😂😂 Jesus called viper and knew that you will be betrayed him, that why he said he comes to bring a sword ⚔️ and not peace, which means there will be people who will believe him and not who will not, so why you western Godless Idiot let him be right? 😊
@danielpaulson8838
@danielpaulson8838 Год назад
Agreed. You were very polite. Humanity as a whole is amazingly supernatural and embraces ignorance.
@danielpaulson8838
@danielpaulson8838 Год назад
@Sinful Bastard Child We're already there. One has to look for themself.
@danielpaulson8838
@danielpaulson8838 Год назад
@Sinful Bastard Child I personally don't get under too much but the sky. But let me know if I can help you understand anything. Oh, and continually winking at me won't get you anywhere. Flattered just the same.
@Amanda-cd6dm
@Amanda-cd6dm Год назад
If God never changes how is money the root of all evil but money answereth all things so evil answereth of all things?
@mshopey32
@mshopey32 2 месяца назад
It's the love of money, not money itself. Kinda like guns. It's not the guns but the people who own them
@glennewell2436
@glennewell2436 Год назад
Small point but theologically important (to some): One does not worship Mary - instead she is venerated! This difference is invisible to most peoples today and so would be impossible to 'see' in the archaeological record.
@frederickforczyk9848
@frederickforczyk9848 9 месяцев назад
Waiting on your response? To all questions on your lecture 😛 thank you so much.
@terrydillon9323
@terrydillon9323 Год назад
For some reason I just don’t believe the creator comes and goes.
@MM-jf1me
@MM-jf1me 2 года назад
Interesting lecture! Thank you for sharing your recording!
@Mar-dk3mp
@Mar-dk3mp Год назад
And that Becuase you western Godless and Souless robot corrupted by a wealthy Society now you say it??? Is it that a new theory front you Western and Godless idiot because you do not know what to do with science once you are death ☠️???... Poor Freaking robot 🤖 without soul 😂😂. From nothing they come nothing they will be, very nice thinking you western godless and Souless idiot.. 😂😂 Jesus called viper and knew that you will be betrayed him, that why he said he comes to bring a sword ⚔️ and not peace, which means there will be people who will believe him and not who will not, so why you western Godless Idiot let him be right? 😊
@leopardred6594
@leopardred6594 3 года назад
from where did the so-called Israelites pick up monotheism?
@daviedood2503
@daviedood2503 4 года назад
They said the holy spirit was the wife of God...
@michaelturnage3395
@michaelturnage3395 3 года назад
Yep. That's blasphemy of the Ruakh Qodesh.
@michaele.stovall6364
@michaele.stovall6364 3 года назад
@@michaelturnage3395 who said that was blasphemy.. the catholic. and the roman empire is to blame for the falsehoods of today's christianity
@JohnDoe-zy6tm
@JohnDoe-zy6tm 3 года назад
Yahweh and his Asherah.
@gabrielmiller1226
@gabrielmiller1226 3 года назад
@@michaele.stovall6364 I think the writers of the New Testament can be blamed for that . They couldn’t even agree what day Jesus got crucified
@letsomethingshine
@letsomethingshine 3 года назад
Paul would prefer henotheism/monotheism in a similar style to the Zoroastrian (which is explicitly monotheist, with angra mayu (their version of Satan) owing its existence to Ahura Mazda (their understanding of First Creator / Most High)). The Holy Spirit is the Holy Breath/Wind, and would have been a "feminine" word. At least that is how the word-choice appears to work out given their vague language. If one reads Genesis with the idea that the "Spirit" is just "the Word/Breath" of God, then one understands how Paul could see his own theology, that the angels of God are inseparable FROM God, that nothing can break God's armies not even civil war. As such Satan is a general UNDER God, and is used and allowed by God to test his followers like Gold and Silver are tested. The Pharisees likely believed in angels, so Jesus/Joshua could still be seen as heavenly divine and the creator of UNHEAVENLY things such as Earth, so that the Ultimate Creator could be mythologically removed from responsibility for evil/calamity. Paul even says in Galantia that being full Hebrew Pharisee or "Ebionite=Poor of James=Jacob" is BETTER than being pagan/polytheist, although better still and easier to be a "Rich in Spirit" Christian that only had to follow fewer laws, ones that were more common sense like laws against pornia. Obviously, to a lot of Christians this meant they weren't allowed to follow ANY polytheist laws outside of "easy Christian" laws. Paul is the literal foundation of Christianity, even allowing the label for his followers to call themselves that in order to distract from them actually being Paulites.
@motogrey3707
@motogrey3707 3 года назад
As the matrix becomes visible
@alwilliams5177
@alwilliams5177 9 месяцев назад
Excellent presentation.
@Datsyzerberg
@Datsyzerberg 4 года назад
One issue. The hyksos were famous for monithiesm. I doubt the canaanites would be the likely culptits. The soleb stele of the 15th centuryx so the same timeframe, refers to the cult of yhwh. I agree the hyksos i dont think were isrealites but I dont believe they were canaanites either. The Arab penninsula was a giant nimadic region until the levant and the hyksos were said to have worshipped in tents and brought chariots. What ancient civilizations invented chariots and when. Much like the Assyrians learning to smelt iron usually thesenwere trade secrets as long as possible. Who had the first chariots. Also intriquing how much the Brittons Julius Caeser encountered employed chariots and used them much the same way the Egyptians employed them. And the snake worship in ireland, the land never to have had snakes.
@watchmenoftruth5238
@watchmenoftruth5238 3 года назад
They was brother o your research you will find out this man is right Blessings
@NaderAbedrabbojanineh-nh1kr
El was The God's Father including Baal ... And Baal Was Anat's Husband And Ishtar's Son ... But As All Religiones Evolve With History ... Baal Became The Most important Diety ... Maybe due To his Rol as The Harvest's God " Tammuz " ... He was Essential For The Nation's Survival ... Maybe That's why he became The God's King ... Baal Evolved According To The Soceity's Theological Evolution ... And We shouldn't Forget That This Diety was The Pre-dominant in Alots of Levantian and Mediterrenean Cultures ... And Was depicted in Many Variant Forms ... So It is difficult to define all his Rols and Specific Functions ... because during Milleniums he was In Many Geological Spots and in A Rainbow of Phoenisian Cultures ...
@richardcox7926
@richardcox7926 10 месяцев назад
We can't know. It is all unknowable. I agree all religious thought is myth. Nothing more Nothing less. Myth is myth will never be anything but myth.
@frederickforczyk9848
@frederickforczyk9848 9 месяцев назад
Oh, and what about the Cambrian and Neolithic ages did Adam name dinosaurs 🦖🦕 and why didn't Noah have them on the 🚢 boat.
@Amanda-cd6dm
@Amanda-cd6dm Год назад
If Israelites were monotheistic explain to me how Jacob who was renamed Israel saw God that was named Peniuel? Peniuel ends with EL, such as the God EL. So how did Israelites begin to worship Yahweh? Then hpw did Yahwism become Judaism? Then Christianity? Sounds like someone is playing tricks somewhere. Furthermore when it comes to a abrahamic religion if God approached Abraham and said all these things I will give you that sounds a lot like what Satan does
@dianaadhikari45
@dianaadhikari45 3 года назад
I haven't seen that many buttons unbuttoned since disco was hot.
@chingatumadre8915
@chingatumadre8915 3 года назад
Yum Yum
@TisEYEthe1
@TisEYEthe1 9 месяцев назад
If there actually were a creator of this or any universe, wouldn't that creator most likely be a super genius, scientist, and mathematician at the very least? If that super genius had a message or lesson for millions of years worth of humans to learn, then why would that idiot leave his message on crappy old brittle, easy to destroy or misplace clay tablets or papyrus? Why not a USB drive or something more lasting or even indestructible? Did this genius creator of most likely multiple universe's really expect crappy tablets and papyrus to be the best choice? Did this "super genius" not expect the future? Did he think that everyone would still be riding around on donkeys and living in caves forever? Does God not have an iPhone by now?
@jtruth5617
@jtruth5617 2 года назад
Look at the presenter and you will see the issue
@langreeves6419
@langreeves6419 Год назад
You're right he has done a lot of great lectures
@parisdebono
@parisdebono 2 года назад
Excellent lecture - well done 👍
@Mar-dk3mp
@Mar-dk3mp Год назад
And that Becuase you western Godless and Souless robot corrupted by a wealthy Society now you say it??? Is it that a new theory front you Western and Godless idiot because you do not know what to do with science once you are death ☠️???... Poor Freaking robot 🤖 without soul 😂😂. From nothing they come nothing they will be, very nice thinking you western godless and Souless idiot.. 😂😂 Jesus called viper and knew that you will be betrayed him, that why he said he comes to bring a sword ⚔️ and not peace, which means there will be people who will believe him and not who will not, so why you western Godless Idiot let him be right? 😊
@Mar-dk3mp
@Mar-dk3mp Год назад
Welcome now you are a freaking robot without soul. 🤣🤣🤣
@Varrocklife
@Varrocklife Год назад
wrong, baal or marduk is the deification of nimrod
@GeorgekwessiDavis
@GeorgekwessiDavis Год назад
Very insightful
@davidking3089
@davidking3089 Год назад
DAVID GOD I AM WHO I AM! GOD HAS ALWAYS BEEN HERE HE IS THE UNIVERSE! THE SKI OVER HIS TRUINE IS THE STARS&PLANTS READ THE BOOK OF ENOCH! IT WILL SHOW U IN HIS WRITING'S! IT'S ASOM! GOD WAS HERE WAY BEFORE OUR ON SOLARESITEM! GOD IS ALL POWER FULL! THE ALMIGHTY GOD!🙂
@davidchurch3472
@davidchurch3472 7 месяцев назад
33 mins : so, all Canaanites are Hamites? (not Semites?)
@rosebroady6618
@rosebroady6618 Год назад
Speaker was unfortunately very unsure or something. Lots of stops, starts and ums.. made for very disjointed listening. A pity because I was looking forwards to this lecture
@yhwshua
@yhwshua 5 лет назад
Excellent presentation
@davepayne2024
@davepayne2024 10 месяцев назад
Fantastic!❤
@suraiyamansoor9740
@suraiyamansoor9740 8 месяцев назад
All these gods are not GOD THE CREATOR. Humans manufactured gods to suit their purpose of beliefs. His God is his belief. Example.. Muhammad manufactured his God and said to fools. "Spread good words about my god, and how I worship my god". And Christians manufactured their God and said to fools invite them to trust my god. Jews, Hindus, Egyptians, Romans; Greeks etc etc... manufactured belief gods.
@frederickforczyk9848
@frederickforczyk9848 9 месяцев назад
Oh, and does God have multiple personalities?
@frederickforczyk9848
@frederickforczyk9848 9 месяцев назад
Q&A, So, I need speak on your lecture from historically and Biblically to pose a question , as mythical god's changed today, when we walk with God and 🙏 is there any age old Truth? Because after the historical god's, Origen says God is a trinity Biblically but this may come from lies, of course or not? But a Babylonian rock cyphered in Australia say's they taught trigonometry 2000 year's before the Greek's who held that lieing reknown proven unlikely with that rock? So, if the Rock is built on the Son of man , how is it Biblically, since before Noah, ever people 's that were murdered by a loving God an died being descendants from Adam and Eve be good when , his peeping Tom Creator watched them in the garden naked? Only took make them suffer because of a serpent, was it a sea serpent? And the boat Noah built landed on dry land with only his family. To populate the earth from incest and alcoholic debauchery since then , thanking God for that, is it worse than the murdering people before or better after Noah because in this day and age we still have both? Waring, murdering people and people of incest and alcoholic debauchery? Just, who is saved, by rebirth the Buddhist , because we see neither Greek or Jew with much truth's? Also, they say baal is buried at the site in Jerusalem in the corner stone of rocks in that vault but not the original site so are Muslims parading around a false god? Also if God gambled with the Devil over Job's belief just what is the importance of one man's beliefs. To suffer and think more is better as reward or gain by the so called virtue of God? An who placed bets on God winning the seraph 's or the Devil's advocates? Was it God"disfunctional parents that.had, a special needs child? And has God changed his sexually frustrated,murderers, gambling, maladjusted loving ways by holy spirit or His only son doing His to save this God forsaken blessed world for Christs sake, Emmanuel? Would you please reply to all questions with indepth answer historically and Biblically. If God talks with you? Or something else? Like the devil? And, I'm not on a witch hunt,
@suelingsusu1339
@suelingsusu1339 2 года назад
Volume is excruciatingly low
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