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Before Loveless: How Shoegaze Became Shoegaze 

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Emerging in the late 80s, Shoegaze would go on to be one of most essential genres of the last thirty years. It was the moment where punk’s cacophonous noise gave way to a dream-like modern psychedelia. Groups like My Bloody Valentine, Ride, Lush, and Slowdive would take hold of its anti-rock sentiment, lust for reverberation and layers and layers of guitar, and create some truly unique music. Though soon overpowered by the more commercially viable Britpop groups, the genre lives on today in a myriad different forms. But how did we get to Shoegaze? Essential steps along the way like The Cure, Wire, "Sugar Hiccup" by Cocteau Twins, "Never Understand" by The Jesus and Mary Chain, "New Day Rising" by Husker Du, "Death Valley '69" by Sonic Youth, Dinosaur Jr, "Revolution" by Spacemen 3, "You Made Me Realise" by My Bloody Valentine, "Blue Thunder" by Galaxie 500, "Sweetness and Light" by Lush, "Dreams Burn Down" by Ride, "Sight Of You" by Pale Saints, and "Son of Mustang Ford" by Swervedriver? And how did we get to the point where My Bloody Valentine’s Loveless was possible? This is how Shoegaze became Shoegaze.
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00:00 Introduction
01:10 The Prehistory of the Prehistory of Shoegaze
02:59 Post-Punk
05:54 Cocteau Twins
07:50 The Jesus and Mary Chain
09:23 American Indie Underground
12:13 Spacemen 3
14:10 A.R. Kane
15:54 You Made Me Realise EP
18:36 Galaxie 500
20:08 The Scene That Celebrates Itself
21:38 Pale Saints
22:38 Ride
24:57 Lush
26:55 Swervedriver
28:08 Loveless & Everything After
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@alexxx8999
@alexxx8999 3 года назад
"proto-everything band The Velvet Underground" I definitely should remember that one.
@SD_Marc
@SD_Marc 3 года назад
That was a good one.
@greva2904
@greva2904 3 года назад
Well they weren’t proto Beatles or Stones, were they.
@ousiavazia
@ousiavazia 3 года назад
i had to stop and nod.
@skindreads
@skindreads 3 года назад
Best descriprion ever of them
@aaronrodriguez7852
@aaronrodriguez7852 3 года назад
@@greva2904 proto as in "proto metal" or "proto punk" lol
@beammeupjosi
@beammeupjosi 3 года назад
I put my laptop on my feet to watch this properly
@alanbrito5239
@alanbrito5239 3 года назад
based
@yseson_
@yseson_ 3 года назад
Brilliant
@TheFos88
@TheFos88 3 года назад
It's a lifestyle, mate. It's a lifestyle.
@dansullivan3189
@dansullivan3189 3 года назад
Dad? Is that you?
@aaronbcole
@aaronbcole 3 года назад
😆
@dathorndike4908
@dathorndike4908 3 года назад
""All the members of My Bloody Valentine now have serious hearing issues". Sad. But not surprising. In old concert videos I often see these alt rock guitarists standing so close to the wall of Marshall speakers for two or three hours onstage every night that it was inevitable they'd have hearing loss issues as they got older.
@haljalykakik2384
@haljalykakik2384 2 года назад
I caught MBV on the Loveless tour at First Avenue in Minneapolis, which is the club featured in the Prince movie "Purple Rain". MBV played the noise section of "You Made Me Realise" for 35 minutes. I know for sure because I timed it. My friend and I were about 15 feet away from the main PA stack stage left the entire time without any sort of hearing protection (hey it was the early 1990s and we didn't think about that kind of thing, especially when you're in your early 20s and think you're indestructible). The vast majority of people in the club were packed against the back wall, or any other place that seemed out of the way of the barrage of noise. A handful of us stayed up front to listen. My ears were ringing for 72 hours after that. It was still one of the best shows I've ever seen and I know I'll never forget it.
@pheresy1367
@pheresy1367 2 года назад
My hearing is REALLY messed up.. but I think it's from my vacuum cleaner.
@melbournestreetdrummermsd3202
@melbournestreetdrummermsd3202 2 года назад
Yeah, But it was worth it. Waking up with your ears ringing doesn't bother much after awhile,
@simplenough
@simplenough 2 года назад
It’s a damn shame they never worse earplugs.
@dougtull4594
@dougtull4594 Год назад
MBV was one of the loudest bands I ever "saw." They slowed down time and space. The Verve was the other band that blew away. And, of course, Slowdive.
@thelo-fidelityarchive597
@thelo-fidelityarchive597 3 года назад
A.R. Kane finally getting recognised for their work warms my heart. I was turned onto them by a guy in a record shop who noticed I was buying some Cocteau Twins records, he dug out their debut single 'When You're Sad' for me and I was like "Sure I'll buy this one too!". I was immediately blown away, I've played that one dozens of times.
@pattobyo
@pattobyo 3 года назад
Shoegaze is pretty strong in Japan (Mass of the Fermenting Dregs, The Novembers, Downy, Kinoko Teikoku, and many many many more)
@pablodelsegundo9502
@pablodelsegundo9502 3 года назад
East Asia in general! I was dumbfounded and thrilled to see how many newer shoegaze bands are from that area a few years ago.
@shayla4007
@shayla4007 3 года назад
i love japanese shoegaze! i would add clams, oeil, and uchu nekoko to the list
@pattobyo
@pattobyo 3 года назад
@@shayla4007 clams is really great!!!
@spinglasshydra
@spinglasshydra 3 года назад
Japan went wild and crazy over the Cocteau Twins. It was one of the few countries, where the Cocteaux sold-out stadiums. They changed the entire landscape of sound; primarily, because it didn't offend the -- parents -- of 1980's Japanese kids. At that time, Japan was still extremely conservative, so Punk and most, Post-punk bands of the 80's, placed these kids in a strange situation. They were subject to their parents constant criticisms (or worse, the friends of the parents), if they saw rebellious youth, then they often would refer to these kids as "degenerates". Plus, it called into the question of "morality" and "modesty". Everything you did, reflected your parents good standing. The Cocteaux provided, youth culture a way to be different, without offending their parents and their parents friends.
@pablodelsegundo9502
@pablodelsegundo9502 3 года назад
@@spinglasshydra Whatever the case, Japan makes the best modern shoegaze music.
@lancelovecraft5913
@lancelovecraft5913 3 года назад
I remember before I knew what shoegaze was always being attracted to music where the vocals didn't punctuate the rest of the music. It's very different from pop radio music where it's essentially just vocal and a beat in the background. When I found shoegaze it was the type of music I had been searching for my entire life. Completely new yet familiar to me
@Sam-go3mb
@Sam-go3mb 3 года назад
Great point. The vocals are often just another layer/instrument, rather than the whole point of the song.
@JoshThewhiteDad
@JoshThewhiteDad 3 года назад
THIS
@godetonter4764
@godetonter4764 3 года назад
@@Sam-go3mb sort of like Death Metal
@Sam-go3mb
@Sam-go3mb 3 года назад
@@godetonter4764 Lol, yeah. Maybe even more so.
@willshuler7014
@willshuler7014 2 года назад
@@godetonter4764 shit that’s a great point
@trex672
@trex672 3 года назад
Anything by Cocteau Twins, Loveless and the Lush debut are still among my favorites. 30 years later they still sound fresher and more original than 99% of the music I hear on a regular basis. I have a pretty broad sensibility, but this dreamy reverb washed soaring melody really clicks with me. I was lucky enough to see all of these bands (Cocteau Twins, Lush, and MBV) live in the early 90s, and they were all excellent live bands, at least as far as replicating the feel of their recordings. Galaxy 500 opened for Cocteau Twins, they were pretty good, too.
@db0800
@db0800 7 месяцев назад
Cocteaus are amazing. Unique
@lamingtonw
@lamingtonw 2 года назад
When he described Elizabeth Fraser's singing as 'swooning gibberish' and her voice 'an additional instrument', I was like YES! That's the perfect way to describe it.
@bangtanbangtan7
@bangtanbangtan7 Год назад
If he describes the Cocteaus as shoegaze or dream pop, I will throw my phone.. (I'm just not watching, I hate this sort of thing.. clueless, usually.🙄🤭)🙏💜🇬🇧💜
@beansfebreeze
@beansfebreeze Год назад
@@bangtanbangtan7 wow that's . . . a really poor outlook
@flamingbanana5831
@flamingbanana5831 Год назад
@@bangtanbangtan7 but it is??
@LeeGee
@LeeGee 8 месяцев назад
@@beansfebreeze Typical shoegazer response.
@nobodys_home0_065
@nobodys_home0_065 2 месяца назад
@@bangtanbangtan7then what would it be?
@ashleyhorner2348
@ashleyhorner2348 3 года назад
This is pretty much spot on influence wise and routes to shoegaze. at least I can confirm up to Pale Saints cos I was in them. ;-)
@EricEsenwine
@EricEsenwine 3 года назад
The Edsel Auctioneer!
@rickg8015
@rickg8015 3 года назад
This should be pinned on top!
@WhirlingMusic
@WhirlingMusic 3 года назад
You guys had good songs
@gaptooth2164
@gaptooth2164 3 года назад
hi
@Bloquednb
@Bloquednb 3 года назад
@@EricEsenwine great band
@ec8107
@ec8107 3 года назад
Two things the 80s couldn't get enough of: cocaine and drums with gated reverb.
@PlasticCogLiquid
@PlasticCogLiquid 3 года назад
Gated Verb was so cool at the time too, it was like drums from the future man :P
@EricOehler01
@EricOehler01 3 года назад
I love gated reverb. Still use it daily.
@TheFos88
@TheFos88 3 года назад
Now it's meth and primal bongos.
@rishabhdeb8747
@rishabhdeb8747 3 года назад
Gated verb is kinda back now but idk im a zoomer hah
@EricOehler01
@EricOehler01 3 года назад
@@rishabhdeb8747 That makes me surprisingly happy to hear.
@velouris76
@velouris76 3 года назад
28:48 The time taken to record and produce Loveless didn’t just almost ruin Creation, it very, very nearly bankrupted McGee himself. Can remember one interview he gave where he said he had to ask his father for his life savings to prevent this: and his father was by no means rich, he had been a welder in a factory. In the interview I saw, he didn't look back at the album with much fondness, but not because of the album itself, but because of the bad memories of the sheer stress it caused him. That said, Loveless is an absolute masterpiece...it was sad it never got the full recognition at the time, as its release almost coincided with Nirvana’s “Nevermind”
@lorrenaelliott161
@lorrenaelliott161 Год назад
What a story!!! Genius doesn’t always = guaranteed ££££ (Tesla can confirm that lol 😂 )
@learnwrite7490
@learnwrite7490 8 месяцев назад
I'm listening to it Right now for the first time. First song feels good
@Sameoldfitup
@Sameoldfitup 3 года назад
“Has it ever struck you that life is all memory, except for the one present moment that goes by you so quick you hardly catch it going?”― Tennessee Williams
@ChalkyDupont
@ChalkyDupont 3 года назад
What you've done here is, basically, traversed my record collection in full.
@behindthespotlight7983
@behindthespotlight7983 2 года назад
absolutely. 🎶
@trekjudas
@trekjudas 3 года назад
Many people don't understand that art is a chain. Just like science artists learn and build upon the work of people who came before them. It isn't magic. Ok, it's magical but it isn't literally magic.
@exerciserelax8719
@exerciserelax8719 3 года назад
Well said.
@aclark903
@aclark903 3 года назад
Or rejection. Punk was a rejection of #Progrock
@kassandrakid9440
@kassandrakid9440 3 года назад
You’re right...and you’re funny.
@BootsRR
@BootsRR 3 года назад
Art is always in conversation with itself.
@sexobscura
@sexobscura 3 года назад
Standing on the shoulders of giants
@jonashorn8354
@jonashorn8354 2 года назад
I love how "Loveless" is such a masterpiece that tons of musicians brag about POSSIBLY being an influence for it. And tons of musicians that came afterwards proudly name "Loveless" as their influence.
@zimriel
@zimriel Год назад
Like when Garbage hits those first four drumbeats in their debut. Oh yeah: they wore that on their sleeves.
@demo3456
@demo3456 5 месяцев назад
its all a construct
@ma-nh6ef
@ma-nh6ef 2 года назад
拙い英語力ながら、Lovelessに至るまでのシューゲイザーの歴史が理解できてとても面白かった。同ジャンルをディグってるとどうしてもLoveless以降のバンドとかアルバムに出会うことが多かったから、その音楽的なルーツを実際の曲を聞きながら知れたのは大変ありがたい....
@piersonel5213
@piersonel5213 9 месяцев назад
no ingrish
@ridleyroid9060
@ridleyroid9060 3 года назад
"That sounds reverberate to this day". I just picture your planet sized grin as you wrote this line.
@astroboirap
@astroboirap 3 года назад
shit eating grin
@NameLess-ks4fi
@NameLess-ks4fi 3 года назад
Clever pun
@Sam-go3mb
@Sam-go3mb 3 года назад
"The sound variably oscillates through a daisy chain of 12 pedals to this day"
@Poochiekoo17
@Poochiekoo17 3 года назад
“Proto-everything band, Velvet Underground” Yeah.... pretty much haha
@Skipntosh
@Skipntosh 3 года назад
Right? lol Like, what genre after them did they not have an effect on? Even got sampled in Hip Hop. Massively influential band. So much attitude and mood. Wild.
@Poochiekoo17
@Poochiekoo17 3 года назад
Skipntosh I wanna talk to the demon Lou Reed made a deal with.
@gardenboydon
@gardenboydon 3 года назад
I love it. A band so ahead of it's time and such influence
@darthsaya8032
@darthsaya8032 3 года назад
Honor when honor is due! 🤟
@lincbond442
@lincbond442 3 года назад
My record collection is organized by genre so I can never quite figure out where to put the Velvet Underground.
@dreaminez472
@dreaminez472 3 года назад
Don't forget the Verve, their first album A Storm in Heaven was one of the best shoegaze albums ever!
@jcabb1
@jcabb1 3 года назад
Love that album!
@whoisit01
@whoisit01 3 года назад
The verve does get a brief mention in there around 30:25
@SassySlayer69
@SassySlayer69 3 года назад
Love the verve, but I dare you to listen to My Vitriol.
@JakeJacob99
@JakeJacob99 3 года назад
Omg I was the only one who had the same thought!! Their best album for sure
@Jabberwok28
@Jabberwok28 3 года назад
I prefer Northern Soul.
@uproarinheaven2903
@uproarinheaven2903 2 года назад
I'm so happy A.R. Kane got some recognition in this video. They often get overlooked.
@pocketpicker6613
@pocketpicker6613 3 года назад
Did anyone else's eyes dilate after seeing this upload?
@matteframe
@matteframe 3 года назад
I haven't listened to some of this music for years.. It still gives me goosebumps..
@kegalormoon
@kegalormoon 3 года назад
@JoKro yep lol
@BowEchoGo
@BowEchoGo 3 года назад
@@matteframe same! Someone sent this to me and I forgot about so much! Getting back into this shit asap. It's gonna be a good autumn
@TheFos88
@TheFos88 3 года назад
Yeah but then I stared at my shoes and it was all good.
@clayz1
@clayz1 3 года назад
Do you mean dilating via 1980’s muscle memory?
@zounch
@zounch 3 года назад
finally someone talks about ar kane in one of these shoegaze videos
@beautyforashes.i-6138
@beautyforashes.i-6138 3 года назад
Indeed, though they were discovered by and released their first EP on One Little Indian. Missed a chance, too, to highlight their MARRS B-Side "Anitina".
@GoldenHairErik
@GoldenHairErik 3 года назад
Can't tell if it's cause they're black or cause they were too experimental, probably both. 69 is one of the best dream pop albums ever.
@jpphilosopher
@jpphilosopher 3 года назад
Wild Eye While I don’t think AR Kane is a shoegaze band (I’m sure they would agree too) they did have at least 3 shoegaze wonderful songs and and are worth mentioning.
@blackcountrysoul
@blackcountrysoul 3 года назад
AR Kane.....so so underated
@yunghentai2946
@yunghentai2946 3 года назад
You should watch the doc Beautiful Noise if you haven't seen it already. It also covers the origins of shoegaze.
@dougtull4594
@dougtull4594 Год назад
The Catherine Wheel also deserves a lot of praise. The first two albums are classics.
@TheFatblob25
@TheFatblob25 Год назад
Right? I was just thinking this. Ferment is a hell of an album.
@Jermeister12
@Jermeister12 10 месяцев назад
Hell yeah !!! They are AWESOME😀😀
@stephensams9784
@stephensams9784 8 месяцев назад
I agree
@goldenstarmusic1689
@goldenstarmusic1689 7 месяцев назад
Thank you!! Catherine Wheel absolutely slaps and deserves a mention for their contributions to Shoegaze.
@garydiamondguitarist
@garydiamondguitarist Месяц назад
In my opinion one of the greatest bands of all time, never got enough love, always turned in something different and surprised with every album, only turned in a bad one with Wishville but yet the first two songs on that still sound absolutely mighty so it literally isn't all bad. I wrote a lovely long letter to Rob on MySpace and he replied how flattered he was. I now have their first two albums on vinyl and they get played a lot. Yeah. I'm a fan. ❤
@kennethguitarfiend4493
@kennethguitarfiend4493 3 года назад
I just really appreciate in these days when people know what they’re talking about and there’s passion involved... thx for this. Good job.
@chikish
@chikish 3 года назад
Ride's "Vapour Trail" is one of the most perfect songs I've ever listened to.
@brunohebert1351
@brunohebert1351 3 года назад
this and Today are the song that got me hooked on Ride. The EP was unobtainable at the time I remember (in France). Finally, resorted in buying an overpriced Japanese import but I haven't regretted it at all. Fun fact: there was a French band called Drive Blind and they were quite good. Of Course, obvious reference and inspiration.
@brunohebert1351
@brunohebert1351 3 года назад
also best rendition ever of Nowhere: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-t8EFbvsoo0Y.html
@vac8846
@vac8846 3 года назад
@Bruno Hebert that outro! never heard that man. thank you!
@JulianMelville
@JulianMelville 3 года назад
Yep. Also waving my New Zealand flag, Bailter Space's 'X' is right, right up there. Those 2 songs are pretty much it for me.
@vac8846
@vac8846 3 года назад
@Julian Melville it's vaguely possible to meet a total babe that's into ride. I'm guessing not many babes have those NZ mugs pinned up on their bedroom wall.
@julianhermanubis6800
@julianhermanubis6800 3 года назад
I'm a simple man: I see Miki Berenyi's face on a video thumbnail, and I click.
@OrbEmber
@OrbEmber 3 года назад
Same here brother.
@kassandrakid9440
@kassandrakid9440 3 года назад
I actually think that indicates the opposite.
@julianhermanubis6800
@julianhermanubis6800 3 года назад
@@kassandrakid9440 How so?
@davidwalford3103
@davidwalford3103 3 года назад
I remember standing next to her at the Brixton Academy bar, at an MBV gig. (either that or someone wholooked just like her).
@vsander09
@vsander09 3 года назад
@@julianhermanubis6800 I think she’s implying that “simple” men aren’t into Miki Berenyi. Pretty sure it’s a compliment suggesting you’re sophisticated.
@UncleKeith567
@UncleKeith567 Год назад
Kitchens of Distinction "Death Of Cool" really should be in this canon.
@YTTraveler777
@YTTraveler777 3 года назад
I feel like Echo and the Bunnymen should fit into the history.
@TheJesterboy1969
@TheJesterboy1969 2 года назад
Agreed.
@bigbodyherm
@bigbodyherm 2 года назад
love them
@zuuldestroyerofworlds4393
@zuuldestroyerofworlds4393 2 года назад
And the chameleons
@sooofunny37
@sooofunny37 2 года назад
And the Lightning Seeds
@TheRealSpookee
@TheRealSpookee Год назад
@@zuuldestroyerofworlds4393 absolutely, the chameleons are amazing
@ellieclay73
@ellieclay73 3 года назад
The mention of swirlies, lilys, and drop nineteens made me so happy
@BlackJack-nx8rk
@BlackJack-nx8rk 3 года назад
I think it was the first time I realized that I can change the world.....
@Comakino
@Comakino Год назад
Lilys were great
@willy565
@willy565 3 года назад
The Cure's Pornography was a masterpiece.
@hw343434
@hw343434 3 года назад
You’re not wrong... the most intense album I’ve ever heard and brilliant at that. Somehow very listenable at the same time. The magic of The Cure in full bloom
@1980alsful
@1980alsful 3 года назад
*is 😉
@oldboy4271
@oldboy4271 3 года назад
My favorite Cure album....
@colossusofrhodes1282
@colossusofrhodes1282 3 года назад
ABSOLUTELY. I just said this last week lol
@TheDutchCreeperTDC
@TheDutchCreeperTDC 3 года назад
I mean... so are Disintegration and Seventeen Seconds. They're a legendary band. (and Robert Smith is an eternal mood and I live for that)
@lorensims4846
@lorensims4846 3 года назад
I was looking for new music in the early ‘90s. Listening to local alternative radio I bookmarked Lush and The Sugarcubes. Years later “Soon” was a revelation.
@harryhein3991
@harryhein3991 2 года назад
something that doesn't get enough credit is how this genre really started to peak, the audio engineering was seriously on point
@brvndxxxn
@brvndxxxn 3 года назад
Cocteau Twins forever
@JBAikensMusic
@JBAikensMusic 3 года назад
All the way and back again
@paganpines
@paganpines 3 года назад
This. I tried listening to Lush multiple times and I could never shake the feeling that they were a piss-poor copy of CT.
@Zeal808
@Zeal808 3 года назад
Exactly
@tomstarkejr4489
@tomstarkejr4489 3 года назад
Great video, a bit random but the fact my bloody valentine,the Jesus and Mary chain,dinosaur jr and blur were all on the one tour is insanity that I would’ve love to seen
@forelight4999
@forelight4999 3 года назад
I was there... Blur where goddamn awful - drunk AF and tripping over the mic cables as Damon pogo'd about pissed. But yeah other than that great gig - it was called "The Rollercoaster Tour" - first time I saw MBV and JaMC
@mattiemclean9882
@mattiemclean9882 3 года назад
@@forelight4999 I love the fact you critique Blur who you didnt like, but didnt say anything much about MBV and JAMC... you couldnt even be bothered to call the last 2 by their full names!! twat
@tomstarkejr4489
@tomstarkejr4489 3 года назад
@@mattiemclean9882 tbf blur are my favourite band and from what the band even say they were either drunk or fighting each other on that tour,also leisure isn’t the greatest album
@weehamish112
@weehamish112 3 года назад
Saw all four at the Glasgow 'Rollercoaster' concert in 1992. It was very good. MBV were loud as fuck, gave my mate a 'whitey'. Blur were a good for a bouncy. Dinosaur Jnr were all right, but being a big Dino fan that didn't bother me (they were only ever all right when I saw them at other gigs). JAMC were loud as fuck as well, the drum sound nearly gave me a heart attack. A good night.
@rorymcveigh6533
@rorymcveigh6533 3 года назад
I was at a London show - the one where Damon Albarn took off his trousers and pants and danced around with his todger flapping about. Great show though.
@malakisands8180
@malakisands8180 3 года назад
Luckily my experience with music growing up I always searched for new music that was not easily accessible. Skinny Puppy, Cure, Lush, Cocteau Twins, Pixies, My Bloody Valentine, Psi Com, getting to see these bands perform was such a experience
@lazarbro
@lazarbro 3 года назад
1:44 "It's All Too Much" fits the mold of a Shoegaze songs much more than anything else of its time, and certainly more than "Tommorow Never Knows"
@user-pz4um9hi1j
@user-pz4um9hi1j 3 года назад
Really true.
@lennon1482
@lennon1482 3 года назад
was gonna write the same thing then seen you done it
@Brokenface
@Brokenface Год назад
Yeah
@shoegazer93
@shoegazer93 3 года назад
I live for this music. Flyying Colours, Nothing, Ringo Deathstarr, Airiel, Slowdive and Ride are all coming out with new music in 2020/ 2021
@tombaud6361
@tombaud6361 3 года назад
Omfg, i didnt know Airiel will release new material, amazing news!
@martyhunt6772
@martyhunt6772 3 года назад
Flyying Colours! Great band!
@jonathanleblanc2140
@jonathanleblanc2140 3 года назад
Wait what, Slowdive and Ride? I'm dead.
@chrisgee188
@chrisgee188 3 года назад
Ringo Deathstarr are so good and very underrated!
@matteframe
@matteframe 3 года назад
Wow, some 2020 bands have terribbble nammmmes.
@infinite_vortex
@infinite_vortex 3 года назад
Sweetness & Light...one of Lush's most beautiful songs. Love the "layers" in the video for it as well.
@Brosenbrose
@Brosenbrose 3 года назад
Shoegaze being one of my absolute favorite sub-genres of all time, i put off watching this video for almost a month, knowing what a lofty goal the proper creation of this video would be. But in my personal humble opinion, you really captured the whole scene - from predecessors to successors, from both sides of the Atlantic. Tying in Dinosaur Jr was a pleasant surprise I did not see coming. I think that as soon as I heard you speak the word Souvlaki, I was totally satisfied. I always enjoy your content, but this video, as well as How Goth Became Goth, are my two favorites. KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK SIR!
@YTPartyTonight
@YTPartyTonight 3 года назад
I saw MBV live seven times between 1992 and 2013. Three of those were on three successive nights at Santa Monica Auditorium in 2008--three nights of You Made Me Realise. Those were the three most insanely mercilessly loud live performances I've ever seen out of about 100 concerts, including The Stooges. It was what I image it could have sounded like standing near a Saturn V rocket blasting off at Cape Canaveral for one of the Apollo missions to the moon.
@gazfunk
@gazfunk 3 года назад
History has forgotten the excellent Kitchens Of Distinction which is a shame. Also the House of Loves early records were a big influence on shoegaze.
@HawkOfGP
@HawkOfGP 3 года назад
There are quite a few of forgotten acts in shoegaze and adjacent genres. New Zealand for example had their scene too that got omitted in this video.
@madelinemitchell104
@madelinemitchell104 3 года назад
Kitchens of Distinction are among my personal top 5 bands! Sooooooo underrated!
@yeet3710
@yeet3710 3 года назад
The chameleons
@reuireuiop0
@reuireuiop0 3 года назад
@@HawkOfGP Yeah ! Flying Nun ! Pink Frost ! the great unwashed Clean ! The Gordons !
@thebarbaryghostsf
@thebarbaryghostsf 3 года назад
Love KoD too... also The Wild Swans, Chameleons, Sad Lovers and Giants, Lowlife, The Sound, For Against, The Ocean Blue, Snake Corps, And Also The Trees, Modern Eon, Modern English so many great bands were pioneering the Dreampop sound.
@shoegazer93
@shoegazer93 3 года назад
The best British Rock genre of the last 30 years. Well done. Great documentary.
@brendanmccabe8373
@brendanmccabe8373 3 года назад
Sorry it’s ours
@EclecticoIconoclasta
@EclecticoIconoclasta 3 года назад
Sorry but no. I think Ed Sheeran is the best punk rock genre of the last 30 days
@Skate771parts
@Skate771parts 3 года назад
After britpop*
@PhilHoy97
@PhilHoy97 3 года назад
My Bloody Valentine are Irish
@psychrestore9610
@psychrestore9610 2 года назад
It baffles me how Les Rallizes Denudes are still overlooked in the journey of noise/shoegaze. They invented it, period.
@goldenstarmusic1689
@goldenstarmusic1689 7 месяцев назад
Swervedriver is freaking awesome, glad they've still been putting out music. Their newer albums are just as solid.
@snoerd
@snoerd 3 года назад
Lush is such an underrated band!
@davidellis5141
@davidellis5141 3 года назад
I thought Ride had the best Shoegaze single with " Leave Them All Behind " & Slowdive the best album with Souvlaki . It was great to see Slowdive be received so well on their comeback with the 2017 album being a classic. The live clip of their cover of Golden Hair ( with the blue haired girl ) is perfect. Brilliant band.
@nicholasromig5506
@nicholasromig5506 3 года назад
I like Just For A Day a bit more, but Souvlaki is awesome too.
@shoegazer93
@shoegazer93 3 года назад
My favourite song of all time. Leave Them All Behind. An absolute anthem
@todessehnsucht
@todessehnsucht 3 года назад
Leave Them All Behind is beautiful. The closet thing I ever had that made me feel weightless and about to fly. That song is what redemption sounds like.
@camillaquelladegliaggettiv4303
@camillaquelladegliaggettiv4303 3 года назад
@@nicholasromig5506 Pygmalion is even better imo
@VictorKibalchich
@VictorKibalchich 3 года назад
Drive Blind was the only decent thing Ride ever did
@wrinkleneckbass
@wrinkleneckbass 2 года назад
I was happy to see Catherine Wheel mentioned towards the end. They were a great band and I still love their music.
@thethirdgeneration1738
@thethirdgeneration1738 Год назад
Just got done typing that up above. I loved Catherine Wheel. (of course I loved Lush, MBV, some of the others mentioned too.) What is the story with Catherine Wheel, any chance they could reform?
@wrinkleneckbass
@wrinkleneckbass Год назад
@@thethirdgeneration1738 Rob Dickinson formed the company Singer Vehicle Design here in LA, so he's doing extremely well modifying old Porsches. I recently saw a teaser post from him about possibly doing something musical again. I hope it's with the CW guys.
@dillongstaff5625
@dillongstaff5625 2 года назад
Around the release of Loveless I attended a My Bloody Valentine concert at Reading Universdity Students Union,and 30 years later it still rates as the loudest concert I have ever attended...the air was cottage cheese,and even the gaps in between songs was deafening...it took my ears 3 days to recover and someone who worked at the venue told me later they had done a pre concert sound check which lasted over two hours...it took them that long to just turn everything up to 11! I'd add this instead of whingeing about any band missing from this documentary.
@DZVtornado
@DZVtornado 3 года назад
I feel like when I die and go to the afterlife, this is going to be the narrator that tells me all of the mistakes I made.
@menem88
@menem88 3 года назад
The Chameleons' "View from a Hill" (1983) is like a early version of "When the Sun Hits". From the album "Script of the Bridge".
@Strawberryknight
@Strawberryknight 3 года назад
I grew up with Velvet Underground, Sonic Youth, Jesus and Mary Chain, My Bloody Valentine, then Pale Saints, Lush... but I did not know the term "shoegaze" until 2005. 4AD Records has produced so many great bands.
@brandonpage7087
@brandonpage7087 3 года назад
Thanks for covering Shoegaze! It's one of the most least talked about & underrated music genres ever. At least here, in the U.S., that is, lol. Also, i learned about all kinds of awesome, creative, experimental bands, that i'd never heard of, from this video. I'd only known of a handful of bands, covered in this video.
@pitbull635
@pitbull635 2 года назад
so many commas
@DCMannings
@DCMannings 2 года назад
Hi Mom loop
@mauvedragontiddies9244
@mauvedragontiddies9244 3 года назад
Man, it would sure be great if I could listen to My Bloody Valentine on Spotify again...
@take5transfat
@take5transfat 3 года назад
dont blame kevin and the gang for not wanting to play the major label industry game anymore. ur better off just buying a used physical copy or even just pirating the dang stuff, cuz its not like streaming makes any real revenue for those who arent legit 1% popstars already :/
@maxinator317
@maxinator317 3 года назад
Thank god I live in america
@skuzzyj
@skuzzyj 3 года назад
@@capngrim It might make people angry, but I will always encourage piracy. When I think of all of the artists/bands that I got exposed to too that I would never have heard of only because I downloaded something with interesting album art or because there was an album review attached to the post... My personal taste in music would never have been this eclectic and I wouldn't have seen so many of these amazing artists live, simply because I would never have heard of them.
@ThreadBomb
@ThreadBomb 3 года назад
I want bands to be able to make a living from recording, so I'm not going to steal their records.
@MacetazzOpina
@MacetazzOpina 3 года назад
buy the record (of course not the vinyl record cause its rare) they also sell digital downloads of their albums, my "m b v" cd came with one, if im not mistaken
@markpalacio
@markpalacio 3 года назад
As usual The Chameleons are sadly overlooked, Reg Smithies and John Lever’s guitars were a major influence on shoegaze... 1983’s Script of the Bridge a seminal one...
@oziku1816
@oziku1816 3 года назад
The chameleons are one of my favorite bands ever. Crimally underrated.
@marcusc6825
@marcusc6825 3 года назад
100% agree. They were dreary dream pop, a bit paisley goth and a bit crunchy post punk pop.
@georgejpg
@georgejpg 3 года назад
Yep, I was wondering when View From a Hill would grace my ears, but no, nothing.
@themilkman3333
@themilkman3333 2 года назад
One of the best bands period
@archer60x43
@archer60x43 2 года назад
The Chameleons are a band that are actually underrated. Strange times was a huge influence. As is the script of the bridge.
@juliohernandez9372
@juliohernandez9372 3 года назад
No one ever mentions The Chameleons in these videos. I think they're one of the most underrated bands in shoegaze/dream pop.
@archer60x43
@archer60x43 2 года назад
They are more like post punk or goth imo. Strange times though is pretty much dream pop.
@hurkamur1
@hurkamur1 2 года назад
@@archer60x43 That's sort of where "shoegaze" really started. MBV was technically a goth band. Cocteau twins, the cure, loop, telescopes, spacemen, Mary chain, bunneymen, chameleons imo where some of the most important precursors of the later MBV sound all influenced by the VU.
@karebushmarebu233
@karebushmarebu233 2 года назад
@@hurkamur1 The cure, bunny men, banshees and mary chain didnt start as goth, they were all post punk bands (mary chain were more just a punk band than post punk on there first and best album). There was punk. then post punk , then you had multiple genres that came out of post punk, one of them was Goth. In the UK indie scene of the 80's you can find shoegazey elements in nearly every band, same with the indie bands that they influenced in the 90's, but that doesnt mean every band was a shoegaze band or big influencers in the genre, bands like the chameleons are very important in there own right but they were never a real shoegaze band. A more pure shoegaze sound had been formed by other bands by the time the chameleons were putting out music with some minimal shoegaze influences.
@hurkamur1
@hurkamur1 2 года назад
@@karebushmarebu233 Where did I say all of those bands were goth? I said MBV was a goth band, and started as such. The cure, and the banshees were post punk turned "goth" while the bunneymen and Mary chain were never "goth" bands. Along with Bauhaus, the cure and Siouxsie & the Banshees basically defined the genre. While I agree bands like the chameleons, bunneymen, don't really fit the bill, they were important precursors. While one could argue specifically spacemen 3, loop, the Cocteau twins , and mary chain (to a lesser extent) made "shoegaze" records before MBV did.
@archer60x43
@archer60x43 2 года назад
@@hurkamur1 yeah, a person isn’t safe anywhere these days is a cool goth/post punk song. It contains a really shoegazey guitar sound.
@SrChado
@SrChado 3 года назад
YESSS I'VE WAITED FOR THIS
@darthsaya8032
@darthsaya8032 3 года назад
Oh have we waited! It was worth it though! Music for the few, not many!
@mcdarwin
@mcdarwin 3 года назад
During a round table discussion with Brian Eno at the Guthrie Theater in Minneapolis in 1990 when Eno was asked what music he liked at the time, he mentioned mainly listening to gospel but he also liked My Blooldy Valentine and their "wall of sound". I made note of that after hearing that and would keep the band on my radar then buying Loveless the following year upon release. I still love that album to this day.
@tuckerjones920
@tuckerjones920 3 года назад
i’ve always linked phil spector and brian wilson and the wall of sound with shoe gaze in my head, and you brought it onto a video and that is amazing.
@alexblock5301
@alexblock5301 3 года назад
What about "Space Age Love Song" by A Flock of Seagulls? It's pretty much proto-dream pop.
@willshuler7014
@willshuler7014 2 года назад
Listen to the tennis system cover
@afroceltduck
@afroceltduck 3 года назад
What I love about your videos is that, even if I think I know about a genre, you put it into so much context that I always come away with homework to listen to (whether or not I actually get around to it). You hear band names but you don't really know what the band means. You put the meaning into it.
@juanm4_gz
@juanm4_gz 3 года назад
a little fact that could be added to the "proto shoegaze" bit: the beach boys' song "all I wanna do" (from the sunflower album) is often considered to be one of the first dream pop/shoegaze/chillwave examples ever, and it was released in 1970 (!!)
@iancossey105
@iancossey105 3 года назад
It all makes you wonder just how far back you can push origins and influences. I’ve always been a fan of baroque music, and (I may be alone in this, but) to me there are certain elements of that which seem to have an affinity with the dreamier, more melancholic end of shoegaze: the droning of the ground bass, the tragic minor keys and wall of emotion turned up to 11, the dark, beautiful and exquisite misery! I’m sure there are probably even earlier forms of music you could connect to it too, but baroque and shoegaze are the ones that particularly speak to my Inner Adolescent :-D
@EclecticoIconoclasta
@EclecticoIconoclasta 3 года назад
He did mention The Beach Boys. Also Sunday Morning by the Velvet Underground has been called the first Dream Pop song from 1967
@JuiCeBoX19
@JuiCeBoX19 3 года назад
Mate, years ago a friend of mine showed me the track with the remark 'hey listen, this is the first shoegaze track'. Even if this would turn out as a stretch or as predeceased by VU I still love this hunt for protothisandthat-songs. And that's why I love this channel. :)
@allenschmitz9644
@allenschmitz9644 3 года назад
@@iancossey105 yea we could go back to georgian chants and say that was the first sandel gaze.
@reuireuiop0
@reuireuiop0 3 года назад
See My Friends, the Kinks. First use of drone sound, very melancholic murmuring about a gone girl, gazing over the river...
@nicolassales2136
@nicolassales2136 3 года назад
This is probably my favorite 2020 video on RU-vid by far, man that's such good content. Will be for days adding new songs to my playlists after so many good references. Thank you.
@dathorndike4908
@dathorndike4908 3 года назад
Lush were always the most special of all the shoegaze bands to me. I still listen to them all the time. When they reformed briefly in 2016 and put out the "out Of Control" E.P. I was so excited to hear more. Then they split up again for good without even releasing a new proper LP.
@davidthomas4851
@davidthomas4851 2 года назад
I agree big time
@whssy
@whssy Год назад
I saw Lush a couple of times. Was a huge fan - have pretty much everything they ever released. But in all honesty Piroshka is a better live act than Lush ever was. So there's always them to look forward to. Miki is an absolute character. Spoke to her after a Piroshka gig and she makes hilariously entertaining conversation.
@edlawn5481
@edlawn5481 11 месяцев назад
@@whssy Have you read her book?
@dpandcrspandvn
@dpandcrspandvn 7 месяцев назад
Miki was a legend. She should have slapped Alex James when he 'bit' her.
@gonand17
@gonand17 3 года назад
There is a very underrated band called 'Loop', formed in England in the second half of the 80s. For me, one of the main bands that started shoegaze and British rock of the 90s.
@EclecticoIconoclasta
@EclecticoIconoclasta 3 года назад
I guess Loop was overall more post-rock, space rock and psychedelic than the main shoegaze bands which had a more melancholic and post-goth vibe to them derived from Cocteau Twins. There is a more psychedelic and space rock line of shoegazey bands like that. There is Spacemen 3 which was a sort of indietronica psych band, there was Loop and also The Telescopes and the first album by The Verve. Spiritualized was probably the highest point of that tendency. Also related with shoegaze but simply less goth inspired, more psychedelic and more spacey.
@hiro111
@hiro111 3 года назад
Totally agree. "A Gilded Eternity" is one of the great lost treasures from this era.
@futrookie9786
@futrookie9786 3 года назад
Great band
@weehamish112
@weehamish112 3 года назад
Yes, well said. I was a Loop fan back in the day. There were more sonic in sound but I would still class them as shoegaze.
@marksumner9948
@marksumner9948 3 года назад
Saw them once or twice. Totally hypnotic.
@felichagomez
@felichagomez 3 года назад
Robin Guthrie roasting My Bloody Valentine at 25:44 🤣🔥🙅🏻‍♀️Ooooof
@LJScott
@LJScott 3 года назад
That’s some salty Fish n Chips
@saturatedneowax
@saturatedneowax 3 года назад
🤓 chorus pedal 🤪
@staylucky4727
@staylucky4727 3 года назад
Kevin Shields laughs in recluse
@OnantheContrarian
@OnantheContrarian Год назад
This is really excellent. It's both reframing my teenage record collection for me and illuminating areas I missed on the way (easy to do before the internet). It's clearly made by someone with a real passion for the genre. Thanks man.
@gopet400
@gopet400 2 года назад
20:27 great to hear Moose get some recognition
@macfilms9904
@macfilms9904 3 года назад
Another great rockumentary! I'm a big fan of shoegaze - although for me, the absolute pinnacle album is Ride's 'Nowhere' - the tracks 'Polar Bear' 'Vapor Trail' and 'Nowhere' are perfection in dreamy wall of noise - the whole album is phenomenal. Really enjoy your work, keep it up!
@ThreadBomb
@ThreadBomb 3 года назад
'Paralysed' is a really underrated song.
@ThreadBomb
@ThreadBomb 3 года назад
BTW, the song 'Nowhere' was not originally on the album. It was a bonus track added from the Fall EP.
@J-H.Faure4275
@J-H.Faure4275 3 года назад
The best shoegaze band was Moose ( their first songs). And the best album of the 90´ is « XYZ... ».
@marksumner9948
@marksumner9948 3 года назад
I'll second that.
@leonmasselink2923
@leonmasselink2923 3 года назад
Thanks for the tip! Listening to 'Nowhere' for the first time now, sounds great. Never really dove into the origins of shoegaze before, lots to discover still
@Valentyne90
@Valentyne90 3 года назад
So wonderful to hear you talking about two of my very favorite groups Siouxsie and the banshees and cocteau twins!
@wood4life
@wood4life 3 года назад
Listen to this conspiracy podcast. They talk about the Cocteau Twins and Elizabeth Fraser. www.thehighersidechats.com/chris-knowles-song-to-the-siren/
@historicalentertainment3736
@historicalentertainment3736 2 года назад
Another song to mention of one of the pioneers of shoegaze and dreampop would be "all I wanna do" by the beach boys. Some critics recognize it for being so ahead of it's time
@swingset1969
@swingset1969 3 года назад
Dig's first album was a great shoegaze album. I still find Catherine Wheel's early stuff to be the pinnacle of this genre...and Curve took it into a sexy, beat-driven ecstacy.
@lorrenaelliott161
@lorrenaelliott161 Год назад
I’m literally copy and pasting all these amazing comments so I can go and listen to your recommendations…. I was 12 in 1990 but by 14 I was getting into it but I missed out on the beginning. Thanks 🙏 for my new listening wish list
@chrisdavie8163
@chrisdavie8163 Год назад
@@lorrenaelliott161 I've got tonnes of Shoegaze/Dream Pop recommendations. Check out "Fall" by Sway, "Pretty Police" by See Through Dresses, "Gamma" by Slush, Year Zero's "Oceania, I Will Return", Isobella's "Kidnap Someone And Make Them Happy", Project Skyward's "Strange Synchronicities". Also the bands Air Formation and Buddha on the Moon. Plenty more if you want them.
@lorrenaelliott161
@lorrenaelliott161 Год назад
@@chrisdavie8163 looks like I have some new sPotify playlists to curate THANK YOU SO MUCH!! Gonna start with Buddha on the moon… I’m a Buddhist, seems like a good sign lol 😆
@chrisdavie8163
@chrisdavie8163 Год назад
@@lorrenaelliott161 Let me know what you think :P
@kenzieraecrescenzo
@kenzieraecrescenzo 3 года назад
I had the opportunity to see MBV on their 2018 tour and they closed with “you made me realise.” I can’t remember how long they played that song for, but it is one of the best memories I have from a live show
@jos9116
@jos9116 3 года назад
This video is brilliant. I wish we could all go for a pint and discuss all this stuff
@cptdoobs3691
@cptdoobs3691 3 года назад
What an amazingly well done video, will be combing through the rest of this channels videos. So many bands discovered I never even knew about
@aristideau5072
@aristideau5072 2 года назад
The drum intro to "Be my baby" was used in JAMC's "Just like Honey"
@evarunciman3679
@evarunciman3679 3 года назад
I really love this channel, and every video i swear it gets closer and closer to mentioning The Sundays, one of the most criminally underrated bands of the 90s, who have since disappeared without a trace. I'm convinced The Sundays took inspiration from Ride and Lush and fall into the more 'Dreampop' type of music. Harriet Wheeler's ethereal vocals are seriously reminiscent of Elizabeth Fraser's of The Cocteau Twins and I'm sure there's a connection somewhere. Would love to see them mentioned in future videos, especially their fantastic debut album 'Reading, Writing and Arithmetic' x
@Ghadente
@Ghadente 2 года назад
Yes, the Sundays, yes yes yes
@shadow13x
@shadow13x 2 года назад
I was thinking “any minute he’ll mention The Sundays or Curve”.
@behindthespotlight7983
@behindthespotlight7983 2 года назад
LOVED the Sunday’s . Played that CD until there were holes in it ♥️
@fadedSF
@fadedSF 2 года назад
sundays were always thought of as the love child of the smiths and the Cocteaus... :-) the thing that kept them from being considered dreampop or shoegaze was partially not being part of the same scene, but also that a lot of their early music was more sparse and minimal. when it was more full bodied it was jangly and acoustic driven. not really hazy or surreal enough to get lumped in with the rest! same with the cranberries. those bands were often liked by the dreampop crowd, but weren't considered part of it. it's funny, cos Mazzy Star is now. back in the day the same people liked them, but they were obviously doing something very different. retro psychedelic folk revival stuff. but when iTunes got rolling, everything had to be in a category, and whomever was in charge of that stuff only knew fade into you, so from 2011 out MAZZY STAR WAS DREAMPOP. okie dokie lol
@fadedSF
@fadedSF 2 года назад
as far as being inspired by any of the dreampop bands, the Cocteaus, probably. maybe pale saints? the Sundays first single came out 9 months before anything Lush had out, and a full year before Ride had their first single. the Sundays first album wsa out before either of those other two had pretty much done anything. :-)
@brunohebert1351
@brunohebert1351 3 года назад
What impressed me the most with Loveless is that despite the wall of sound, the noise and everything, I always end up whistling the melodies... and it's so simple so pure but it wouldn't work without the wall of sound the noise etc.. Truly a before and after album. Like a sonic UFO that landed in November 1991. I don't think listening to it leaves anyone indifferent. Wish I could have seen them live.
@lextual
@lextual 3 года назад
I just wish that "Loveless" had more bass/low end. "Low-endless"...
@ryanponder679
@ryanponder679 3 года назад
Swervedriver, Cocteau Twins and Lush are my top 3 all time Shoegaze bands.
@TequilaToothpick
@TequilaToothpick Год назад
My God I just adore Lush. Incredible band.
@extahsee
@extahsee 3 года назад
INJECT THIS DIRECTLY INTO MY VEINS DUDE. pleasantly surprised you mentioned yuck, i still have their self titled album on rotation. thank you for making this video
@jameshall1075
@jameshall1075 3 года назад
yuck is great, especially around 2012.
@Grrizo
@Grrizo 3 года назад
I went from "Oh look, a ton of bands that I like" to "Oh shit, I can't write down all these others". PS: I'm gonna leave a non-english speaking band's shoegaze album fro those who want to discover; 1992 "Dynamo" by "Soda Stereo".
@thebarbaryghostsf
@thebarbaryghostsf 3 года назад
That's a solid band. Also really dig Caifanes and Heroes Del Silencio.
@d.ml.g9902
@d.ml.g9902 3 года назад
Holy shit, con este video veo las similitudes de Shoegazing en Soda Stereo y Heroes del Silencio.
@Ardakapalasan
@Ardakapalasan 3 года назад
Y si, afanaba lindo Cerati
@Grrizo
@Grrizo 3 года назад
@@Ardakapalasan sssshh, más respeto
@Grrizo
@Grrizo 2 года назад
@早坂愛 Yo me enamoré del shoegaze y el dreampop gracias a él. Y sin dudas me enamoré muchísimo más de su música.
@frasercook5823
@frasercook5823 3 года назад
I don't think I ever stopped loving Shoegaze/dreampop from the day I discovered it as 12/13 until now.
@stephen3511
@stephen3511 3 года назад
I could never tire of hearing the Velvet Underground, MBV, Spacemen 3, JMC and the Cure.
@iwaspaidtoflywithyoubatman
@iwaspaidtoflywithyoubatman 3 года назад
24:43 ....sounds like "When the Levee Breaks" to me.
@colonialwaster6978
@colonialwaster6978 3 года назад
I think The Chameleons should’ve got a mention
@keithferreira3866
@keithferreira3866 3 года назад
Awesome and entertaining video I very much enjoyed. Would have been nice with some chameleons though
@everymandan4176
@everymandan4176 3 года назад
They were a huge influence on Nick McCabe of Verve, who's Storm in Heaven LP should be considered shoe-gaze.
@frankieseverin1157
@frankieseverin1157 3 года назад
exactly, listen to view from a hill and tell me that didnt inspire shoegaze / dream pop
@thebarbaryghostsf
@thebarbaryghostsf 3 года назад
ty, I said the same thing. I discovered Slowdive after my roommate heard me listening to The Chameleons, and played them for me. I immediately made the connection.
@hectorbarreda7510
@hectorbarreda7510 3 года назад
Damn I was about type this, right after reading the comment with the guy mentioning “underrated bands that weren’t mentioned.” The Chameleons are the most underrated of all :^(
@leoc544
@leoc544 Год назад
I’ve been binging your channel for over a week now and I’m amazed at how many of the songs you brought up can be fount on Grand Theft Auto radio. Many many things and artists I love were introduced to me by the game but I never had idea of how many of them are staples on the history of music. From San Andreas to V, many songs from the games are way more significant than I thought and it’s great to (finally) learn that. Thanks!!! Great content
@Jack-ro8ev
@Jack-ro8ev 3 года назад
These are such high quality and well put together videos, Thank you!
@jasonpeksa8869
@jasonpeksa8869 3 года назад
I've been waiting for this video for a very long time. Thank you!
@morebasheder
@morebasheder 3 года назад
"Ample recreational drug use" 😂 I'm surprised that there was no bigger mention of Curve, their early EPs were outstanding
@richardsanderson9883
@richardsanderson9883 3 года назад
Absolutely
@fadedSF
@fadedSF 3 года назад
This document ignores almost all the EPs by anyone, aside from Ride. EPs are a huge part of UK indie music. For 4ad, creation, etc much of the vital works are on the EPs!
@fadedSF
@fadedSF 3 года назад
Ignoring non album releases throws off the timeline. AR kane are mentioned as releasing their music mid 88, when they'd had notable singles in mid 86 and onwards. Curve only.mentioned in passing as a post loveless band despite having 3 solid EPs charting and being on the front page of all the major magazines before loveless came out....
@Housesider
@Housesider 2 года назад
@@fadedSF Definitely, so many valid and important tunes left out which really stood to me. Very odd choice by the creator.
@fadedSF
@fadedSF 2 года назад
a few more docs have popped up lately, and they are pretty weird. one recent one is attempting to make them for a wider audience, so they are typing words into Google translate, from Spanish into English, then having some program say it out loud for them. so some of it sounds really weird. every time it mentions an album coming out it says "____ finally came to light" or things like, "the creation of the beautiful guitar sound to make the atmospheric guitar sound mad the beautiful ambient sound." "however, this did not happen as the moon went down and night turned into day..." (it didn't happen overnight) but again, it's made by people in their early 20s researching from Google or whatever. again ignoring any singles or EPs. which, if you read wikipedia articles, that's usually where the focus and discussion are. i think in many ways it's that unless you were around in 1991, you probably never saw any EPs by any of those bands. just the albums, and maybe EP compilations, if a band even put one out.
@MikeDurhamNC
@MikeDurhamNC Год назад
I’m 46, grew up listening to most of those bands and don’t remember ever hearing the term shoegaze. It could be that it was the term they used in the UK. We called everything we saw on 120 minutes alternative back then.
@maryburke5423
@maryburke5423 3 месяца назад
Much easier to categorise in retrospect.
@FlamingWalrus317
@FlamingWalrus317 3 года назад
Thank you so much for making this video! Shoegaze is my favorite genre and you just gave me so many more albums to listen to.
@lincbond442
@lincbond442 3 года назад
I've been waiting 25 years for this video. Thanks!!!
@bean4513
@bean4513 3 года назад
Been waiting for you to cover shoegaze for so long!! Also so happy you discussed AR Kane, they're rarely as mentioned as Jesus and Mary Chain and Cocteau Twins when it comes to proto-shoegaze
@jefferylinder8299
@jefferylinder8299 3 года назад
Slowdive actually was from one of the members dreams
@Bakiyochi84420
@Bakiyochi84420 2 года назад
I always have to save a lot of songs and albums that are put in these videos. 10/10
@malinmarkkanen5228
@malinmarkkanen5228 2 года назад
Everything in this video has been such a pleasant surprise to me! I've previously listened to quite a few of the artists that have been featured, and I did enjoy their sound. But I didn't know that they were connected to each other, and that there was an actual name for that. Now I have hours of more music to look forward to, and plenty of leads to go after. All thanks to your video!
@danfan4707
@danfan4707 3 года назад
“Has anyone heard the new Ride single? It’s got a good beat!”
@birdie17uk
@birdie17uk 3 года назад
That's you, that is.
@marksumner9948
@marksumner9948 3 года назад
Andy Bells recent solo stuff is sublime!
@MapleMilk
@MapleMilk 3 года назад
As Shoegaze convert and an MBV obsessive, this is the video I've been waiting for
@monsterguyx6322
@monsterguyx6322 3 года назад
I saw Ride open for Lush in Cleveland back in '91. Were they gazing at their shoes? Not sure... between the dense layers of stage fog and the seizure-inducing strobe lights It was hard to see the bands most of the time. But what they lacked in stage presence, they made up for in decibels of droning feedback and ethereal vocals.
@stevesnailfish
@stevesnailfish 2 года назад
Cracking video and brought back many memories.....I'm 58 now and this feels like yesterday. I bought Cocteau Twins 'Head Over Heels' LP on release....still play it on cd to the present day.. Big fan of shoegaze...Saw Cocteaus, Slowdive, Lush, The Cure, Ride, Cranes, Spiritualized etc all back in the day..... As for Miki Berenyri.....Fabulous looking woman.... In my view, shoegaze has ended up/morphed in the post rock genre.....Explosions In The Sky, Jakob, Bark Psychosis, Caspian, Destroyalldreamers, Hammock etc... It'll keep going as chorus, flanger, delays and reverb pedals exist.....
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