I started just one and a half week ago - and I made two accounts to check on both pathes. I for myself stuck with the warframe path - because as you mentioned: If you started this game called "warframe" to play some "warframe" ... well... I didn't want to play "warframe" every half an hour for 5 minutes (AND I would have to learn TWO instead of just one char) ^^ TIll today I ignored Duviri as a consequence. Maybe I will give it a try later but at the moment I am still learning and experiencing and yes, maybe it would be more effective to play Duviri and doing the circle every week... But I am not at the "how do I get thingis most efficently" point yet ^^
In terms of actual story timeline. I think Warframe path makes most sense. Playing through both, I can clearly see the Duviri story takes place during and ties to the events of New War, which is considered an endgame story event of the Warframe Path. Also, the Duviri path is going to require you to play the Warframe path anyways. The "circuit" which is supposed to be an alternate path to collect Warframes, is still going to require you to use crafting materials from the Warframe path make them. So it's not like you can just play Duviri to progress your arsenal options.
I would very heavily say go for the warframe path over duviri, not only will the entire story make no sense you will actually progress far slower, and in a game that is basically a product of years of gameplay it's like picking instant action over career mode.
Would probably recommend starting out with the Warframe path. Whilst the WASD section isn't crazy gameplaywise, it really kinda helps to establish context. I imagine that it could be kind of jarring to wonder how you got to the orbiter, and why you have an electronic tag on your ankle and what that weirdo with the ugly face and the robo-eye actually wants from you. If you choose the Warframe path first you get literally all of Duviri and miss absolutely nothing. Also, if you are patient enough to wait for Duviri until you've finished the New War, the plot actually makes some semblence of sense.
I mostly agree, but circuit rewards are too good for new players and its much better to watch plot explaining video to understand what is going on even when all other quests are completed
I just played duviri after doing the stolen dream and kinda regret it, I absolutely don't understand how to connect duviri and Warframe like it doesn't make sense and bring imo plot holes even if there will be more quest to clear thing up.
Yeah i really don't understand why you can play duviri when you boot for the first time Warframe, it should really be after New War with a small explication that this is the story of the drifter, i think when you unlock the drifter, the story don't make any more sense in the order you should know it, like, you come in stolen dream and you're like, who is his guy and why there is 2 of them controlling the same Warframe ???
@@Misternono62 yup, and like ok I can get a blueprint from there and it's the guy teshin from the relay ? What ? Why not just ask him on the relay wtf is happening. I know it will make more sense later and it's a game, it's not going to be perfect and because of the gameplay. I did enjoy duviri tho, I understand they did this so everyone who see the update can play it without grinding for more than 100 hours
This was still useful to me "years later". I haven't played in probably 5-6 years, and I have missed a lot. I am trying to catch up on some things so I am not so lost when I start up again. I appreciated this explanation as if I was a new player. I pretty well am. I'd like to replay the story too so I can remember all the things!
As somebody who joined this game in early 2024, I would strongly recommend the Warframe start. The game is completely overwhelming no matter what you choose, but the Duviri storyline is essentially a surrealistic Elden ring kind of world . Doing the Warframe start, you get what it says on the tin. As you stated, you will still go back and experience all of it- but at a point where it makes a lot more sense if you double back for it halfway through the game or even at the end.
We have to normalize telling noobs to pick the skana. It's the only starter weapon you have to craft. It's irrelevant what your preference is because choosing the skana is objectively the correct choice as it save you 12 hours just by getting it early
imho, you're one of the best warframe beginner video guide maker, and my favorite, even tho I'm not a beginner anymore, i still enjoy watching your tutorial videos and feeling nostalgic how i started warframe back then and wish your video were there to guide me
8:28 it does matter story wise. If you start with duviri, you will get story from the end and not from the beggining, spoil some plot twists for yourself, and obviously you wont get the plot at all
Everything is already spoiled, in the menu, on the game art, twitter, youtube, every trailer, every post. They've already spoiled everything. It does not matter anymore.
@Simon Rockstream idk as a new player myself I'm at the Natah quest and I don't feel like I've been spoiled? When I see that drifter guy or any current art idk what's even going on so I don't pay attention to it. So for me starting with the star chart before duviri has been good
Thank you for this. I'm most interested in the best way to play "story-wise". I've been asking people and they just say, "it doesn't matter". Thanks for this insight. I think I'll start with warframe path and finish all the main quests there first, before heading over to Duviri. I have about 200-300 hours to spare anyway. 🙂
@simonrockstream hard disagree, if they are NEW players all they would've seen is imagery of the (spoiler character) and by the time they get close to the second dream they can piece things together. When my friend introduced me to this in late 2017, everything already looked far too esoteric and alien even in the normal introduction. But it was a starting point I could start TRYING to understand from. Not only is Duviri non reflective of Warframe's main gameplay loop, but none of the universe or world building of the factions would make a lick of sense.
I started the game like almost 10 years ago. I never got too far but I did finish the warframe tutorial. I came back recently and It just threw me into the paradox intro.
For me, personally. I always recommend new players pick the Warframe path, and start with Volt. Since it's where majority of the base content lies, and Excalibur and Mag can be gotten quite early on in addition to Rhino.
I prefare starting with Excalibur, because his passive abilities include receiving +10% Attack Speed and +10% damage bonuses for melee attacks. This is a big deal in the early stages of the game because melee is your strongest weapon. It's only way further ahead before you can start getting decent firearms. Plus Excalibur has the radial blind ability which means he can cheese every planet junction with ease. Volt needs his abilites, with them he needs energy so he can run fast, use a shield and do a bit of crowd control, a bit more to learn and do for a new player in my opinion.
@@Kababalax not like it matters that much I pick volt and with the right mods things like the heat blade will cut too enemies like butter that bonus honestly isn't needed if you know what your doing
After killing Vor, think of yourself as a space explorer. Roleplay as one and it may help you in playing the game. Get used to your weapons and warframe. If you want to go public, you can but it is best to experience some nodes solo. If you are having trouble with a certain node, reach out to general chat. Also, if you're getting overwhelmed, you can take a break and play another game for a while. Play the game at your own pace.
this one im going to have to disagree with. i would 100% recommend the warframe path to every single new player for several reasons: - the duviri paradox quest - aside from not introducing you to warframe gameplay properly since you only spend a few minutes with them - is clearly intended for later in the game and as such constantly refers to and pretty much spoils things for the main campaign. You dont know what these void angels are he keeps screaming about, you dont have the faintest idea what a zariman is or why there is a weird bug suit person mirroring your movement, so playing this quest now completely takes the bite out of all its events. You are doing a disservice to every single quest in the game, including duviri itself, by playing it first. -skipping "the wasd section" at the beginning of the warframe path also skips the setup for who captain vor is and why you want him dead, who lotus is and what role she fills, who ordis is and why you have a space apartment floating near earth- _misunderstood this part, apparently it just drops you exactly where the warframe path starts_ - finally, by the end of the duviri quest you have fought two entirely different factions of enemies with neither having any explanation for who they are, especially the corrupted. Play the warframe path up to at the very least the second dream quest, then play duviri. This way you are somewhat invested in the world and its mechanics so you can actually appreciate duviri and you dont ruin the far superior main story for it. Loosing out on the circuit is kind of stinky for a new player, i admit, but i would say it is 100% worth it for the increased cohesion of the entire experience, and outside of the augment mod and the one arcane per week, pretty much everything you can get there you can also get your hands on fairly early in the game - and way faster - anyways
Started playing 2 days before duviri came out and finally after completing new war I actually somewhat understood what the drifter meant and most of the references on the duvri experience
@@sergei2039 ah. from what i understood you start at the segment gathering, but wasnt entirely sure on that part. thanks for the correction. Guessing you also have the warframe and weapons you pick up in that mission as normal then and the duviri stuff just disappears? Means the player has a second basic control introduction 3 hours into the game which must feel strange but better than just spawning in your orbiter for sure.
my bit of advice for new players, don't worry about farming everything. if you are a person that absolutely HAS to have everything in a game, warframe will be an absolutely massive slog. just take your time, ignore the paradox (i still think its dumb that its accessible to new players when this game is already confusing in early game) advance through the star chart and do the story stuff, i almost guarantee it will be worth it, and it shouldn't take you that long. This game has so much heart and it makes me sad to see it's confusing nature scaring off so many people, so if you are confused as to what to do, i suggest simply following the quest log in your ship's codex (again, ignoring duviri paradox until after New War), an when you are done with that, likely you will have found other things in the game you are interested in and if not, at least you will have experienced the best of what this game has to offer. Edit: actually my biggest love for this game came from it's amazing community, but i can't really speak on that because life circumstances have kept me out of the loop for a couple years now and my beloved clan has all but died down now, so if you can find good friends to play this with i couldn't recommend this game more. I started this game when i was 14 so the community had a large part in shaping me into the person i am today, and that is worth more to me than all the plat in the world.
@@MasterhpIke the quest log should tell you how to access each quest. The first main story quest after the introductory quests, Natah, is accessible by scanning mysterious drones on Uranus, you'll know they are there when the lights flicker and you hear a strange sound
I remember trying the game, like 6 years ago on PS4, it felt overwhelmeing and I hated the pay-to-fast elements. Now, I gave the game an other shot and tried with the Duviri start. More than than 50 hours and still enjoying it.
With the pay-to-skip element, best way to go about it is queue up the items to be built so you essentially get new weapons/warframe everyday. While building one, farm resources for another. Also, you will get burned out by this game as it is very grindy. It's fine. Just leave for 3-6 months or even a year and come back when there is more content.
Personally, if you want a lore experience then i would wait to do divuri till after angels of zariman because at that point you will have all the information needed to fill in the gaps in a coherent way. If you only care about game progression though then you should do divuri first, the amount of good rewards you can get so much earlier on compared to normal is insane. Some of those rewards are even easily sold for plat at times which helps a lot.
I never got confused when I first played warframe. My first goal in mind was to complete the star chart and the quests as I unlock them by progressing through the game. I am glad I did not drop the game.
The very first time I played it was when it first released for xbox and I did drop it, or rather said I would come back when i had more time to figure it out. I kind of regretted the years I missed when i picked it up again the first time a "new player experience" was released, like, what 3-4-5 years ago. Then I spent the better part of a year playing nothing but warframe. Now it is comfortably my go to game when i have nothing else to play or just want to run around being super powerful. Also, I come back everytime there is a new quest or Tennocon is about to fire up. At those times it pulls me away from other games, in this case Valheim which i was really enjoying...but now I am back in warframe mode for a while.
Yeah, I also never had any problems with games that explain things poorly. Not blaming the players that do get confused, but I always just took it slow, watched only a few videos and then learned more and more as I progressed through the star chart and story. If you have a little patience, it's really not hard to wrap your head around Warframe.
Started playing 4 days ago and your videos have helped a lot! Best thing about the circuit is that if you have a level 0 primary, secondary, melee or warframe you can max them out after a couple rounds 👌 Sweet sweet mastery
Hoping you can find a better game. I recommend deep rock galactic. The same thing happened to me with destiny, i've been much happier since i quit, please trust me
@@L76_Official MR23 playing since 2013, I felt the same about Deep Rock because of the art style but really enjoyed it once I played, very solid and tight experience, no feature or power creep.
Duviri is seen as souls like...that's what many people say... From my point of view, and from what i've expirienced, it plays also a little bit like callisto protocolll. with that combo system and smashing, and shooting in between. ( love cp ❤ keep up Glenn! looking forward to continuation of the cp story!) great game mechanic. love it!
Yeah I was one of those players who got overwhelmed by everything at the beginning and stop playing xD its a good game so far from what I've seen but I dont think I will be playing
at 3:50 you said that people just call it "souls like/lite" but it actually is because they tried to emulate the whole lock on for melee combat type fighting style and parry countering. It is also trying to emulate rougelikes with the whole decree system
As a early access warframe player, im not sure whats the better option. For a new player that just 'wanna go crazy' and have a TLDR mentality, Duviri has a great headstart to get stuff going. But for a lore fan who wanna dive in the huge story behind warframe, its the worst choice. Even at the end, it makes no sense, the entire world was in your own made mind and you can 'break out' to suddenly dive into a massive solar system with factions, frames, guns, ships and whatnot. Yes, it gives a tie-in to the tenno/operator, but how what when why.. well, no. There are some serious key missions to understand why are we here and how, specialy Operator wise.. Second Dream. But yeah, for those who just wanna go crazy and grind away, i gues its the short cut to get a quick '5 is your operator, thats him/her', but thats about it. As a veteran stuff makes more sense, little things (like the hand you gain in duviri.. yeah, we know who's hand that is) make the story click on so many levels, while at the same time giving your 'elder' operator a proper 'what if' backstory.
I started playing today and didn’t know that the game just added duviri, I chose paradox path first and was really confused with the story and everything. Now I know why.
Don't touch Duviri until you finished The Zarimann. It's a complete deviation from Warframe's gameplay and just confuses the hell out of it. It takes out so many things a player would learn and just leaves you.. confused. It: - Doesn't incorporate mastery ranking - Gives you weapons you won't get until way later - Explains nothing about who and what you're facing - Plays completely differently from the normal gameplay. Nowhere is the Drifter combat anywhere near the combat you're gonna do for the majority of the time.
Thats exactly what happend to me😅 keep in mind that i have opened all planets before. i've been planning to get into the game again after the new expansion and i choose the paradox path. it confused the hell out of me, thats coming from an old time player, god help the new ones😂. So tell me, should i go back to my original path (i have sooo many quest in there) or should i keep going in the new path?
@@shahrbanooShadpoori just go do the old quests like ig you could continue down duvuri but there isn't much. you got a tutorial quest, and an open world that plays more like a rogue-like dungeon crawler then the normal open worlds (personally i love it, but its very very different) and progression wise there isn't much. Story wise again its just duvuri. Like duvuri path might be worth it in a few years when we got more stuff fleshed out and a few more quest but as of right now even if you finish duvuri you'll be done it quickly and then have nothing to do but the main game. So i'd suggest main game and then when you get to duvuri it'll be a nice change of pace+hopefully stuff will make more sense in relation to some of the lore duvuri adds
I’m pretty sure it’s the right choice anyway, I don’t like the Duvuri gameplay, and if that was how I started I would probably have dropped the game like 40 minutes in
Thanks for the brief explanation of the circuit. I wondered if rewards were transferable from Duviri to Warframe path. I already spend a ton of time in game, so I've chosen to stick with the warframe path since finishing the main Duviri quest. Might have to drop in to the circuit for those rewards, tho.
The rewards from the Circuit carry over to the main game. That's why doing the circuit is so great for beginners. Also resources collected in Duviri carry over as well as some Drifter Intrinsics. If you happen to have a self made build on any weapon or Warframe that is available for Duviri you can also choose your own mod setup and don't have to go with the premade loadout ;)
I'm a returning player and you convince me more to play this game. I started new game. 2 days in it 16hrs and it's makes more sense now thanks to your video. 😊
what an amazing video. Im downloading Warframe 10 years later, back when I was a kid and had no idea what I was doing. Idk what my account even looks like now
@jaysroom2318 you are doing it wrong then. Within 8 days (on a brand new account) I have built Rhino, maxed him to level 30 rank, I have access to plastids and planets with plastids, and I am already building my third frame Vauban. I recommend you watch guides on youtube or ask experienced players for help if you cannot figure it out on your own because thats how I learned.
It makes me laugh when people denigrate duviri with the argument that new players dont understand what's going on Back in my day NOBODY knew what was going on because the only lore we had was "combat formation bravo" and "get clem" Warframe has always been confusing and unexplained, its like a book written in another language that you're trying to translate but you can't figure out all the words so you're forced to head cannon the parts you can't decipher I love it.
I played the game because of Space Ninja and the countless times of research in google and youtube on what to do made it worthwhile. To me, it is what makes the game live. Everyone interacts, trading and teamwork is promoted. When you go to "?" chat, there will be that guy that knows everything and you learn from them, ask someone to taxi you to Lephantis in recruitment chat, they ask "Do you want me to help you get the full Nekros set? I don't mind, I'm bored." Sure the grinding is wow, but through all that, it is a wonderful experience. I can't say I am an OG in this game since I started in 2016, but because of the OGs, I came to love the game hehe
I wish the duviri storyline had been much longer and more epic than it was. When i first did it, i was enthralled and thought this was going to be like a sister to the warframe story overall. Much to my dissapointment, it was only a couple hours long.
I got banned in this game for naming myself "WarCriminal" I had this name for 900+ hours into the game and all of the sudden I got banned for the reason being I had the word "war" in my username and I was like BRUH the game literally named named "WAR frame" and you go around planets committing genocides the point of the entire game is WAR
There's no way you got banned for that. You did some other shit, clearly, but you want to piss on warframe because you got banned fair and square, nice try.
@@Recca471 I didn't piss on the game I like the game too grindy but it still a good game I still played with another new account bruh why you warframe fanboys always attack anyone who criticizes your game what I criticize is the neo liberal ultra left devs who can't see their own hypocrisy which not only them but 99% of game devs and publishers nowadays most games now a days ban you for just saying ez
Idk about banned. They give warnings. I know a person who bought from third party websites and he did not get banned, Warframe made him purchase all of that platinum back or he would lose his account permanently. So in almost certain they would have just warned you to change your name, not permanently ban you for having war in it. I don't buy it.
the reason people compare duviri to souls games isnt because its third person sword play, but becauise it has you lock onto your enemy, time your blocks and dodges, and you will spend a lot of time rolling... until you get enough decrees at least so basically its compared to souls games because it plays a lot like a very softcore soulsborne game
returning player here. I have yet to play the paradox, but i feel a lil sad. One of the most amazing moments i had in warframe was realising there was an operator all along after putting a lotttt of hours into the game. that was such a plottwist and such an amazing reward for playing through the chart thinking that was mostly it for the game. I'm going to play the paradox hoping to have a blast but its a little sad new players will never have that mind blowing moment again. Or well. maybe its going to still be mindblowing in a different way haha.
I get what you mean. And it's true. It takes away one of the biggest plot twists. On the other side, after 10 years and everyone seemingly knowing about it, I can also imagine the decs are happy, they don't have to hide this anymore... Let's see what they come up with in the future 😉
by time of new war they kinda killed the second dream "open secret"/reveal like i remember way back in the day asking people "wtf was that" when i saw there operator for a split second, and almost always people would just respondd with stuff like "wake up tenno" and if you were really lucky, they'd just be straight up and say "go do the second dream" but the community was amazing at keeping it hidden from new players to get that reveal. Then new war released, all the promo art, the launcher when you started the game, etc was all proudly displaying the operator and drifter. duvuri does the same thing and doubles down. Idk what the community thinks as a whole, i personally find it kinda sad, but its pretty obvious DE wants to make that a bigger focus/draw. Idk maybe they think its not a big secret anymore? which like it prob isn't cause im sure if you googled "weird human guy in warframe" or something you could prob find someone talking about the operator XD but unless you knew what to look for, you wouldn't really know or think about it.
I literally had thoughts of trying the game again. The part where you said we kill that captain and players quit. I was one of them. I legit didn't know what to do.
So I can see what DE is doing/did here. DE wants/wanted the Drifter to be less of a twist for the story and be another intro/story to the series, what with how Eternalism was introduced, creating the 2 separate timelines or whatever you wanna call it. They're trying to write it so that way, to new players, it actually feels like the Tenno and the Drifter converge into one point in the story, and not have the Drifter be only a twist and added gameplay element. It feels like a spoiler to us older players because we experienced it differently, with Duviri coming out after New War, and I feel like if the Zaramin and Duviri were introduced before New War, (Zaramin first, and then Duviri), we wouldn't feel like we're spoiling anything for anyone else. Duviri isn't spoiling anything, or at least it wasn't made to spoil anything for new players. If anything we're just playing the update late/ the last few updates weren't released where they should have been. With that being said, I'm glad that the Drifter isn't just some plot device with game play elements and tact on extra backstory for new Warframe players who play Duviri. Drifter will hold more weight to him as a character and as a protagonist of some sort. I hope that any of that made sense 😅
The one thing Duviri does spoil is how Second Dream first shows you with surprisingly well-made story scenes that the warframes aren't just suits of armor that you put on, hooking you very markedly into the mystery of how the warframes were created and what exactly they are that you eventually see in the Sacrifice quest later on. That used to be a massive, unique, and very enjoyable twist (because everyone just expects the warframes to be a suit of armor you're wearing) that is now just casually and off-handedly spoiled in Duviri if you decide to jump in there first as a new player.
In a way, I see Duviri as the 'easy mode' for certain things, like getting warframes a lot sooner than you would doing the star chart path, and levelling up weapons quicker. It's given players an option to skip the grind of farming for these frames and weapons, but to me, that's what Warframe is all about, so I will most likely gloss over Duviri quite a bit (aside from obtaining the new weapons and arcanes that come with it,) as I don't mind the grind, but I can certainly see why people would be drawn to it as well.
Yeah I see what you mean. And I agree! If you love to "earn" your Warframe by grinding a boss for long then sure, Duviri might not be the thing for you. For everyone else it is a great bonus though. Not just for the Frame BPs but specifically for the Augment Mods.
The Duviri path will just make the story and lore very complicated and incomprehensible for newcomers. Everybody should start with the Warframe path. The story flows better and more sensibly into the rest of the game (Captain Vorr's Prize, etc till War Within). For story and lore reasons, do the Duviri Paradox as one of your last quest.
Another thing to be aware of, Duviri is set in a big open world that is one of a few in the game. If you have a potato computer (doesn’t run well), you may want to go with the Warframe path so you don’t have to deal with as much lag and frame drops.
Guys as a person who played 100 days straight from when i started. The story is nigh understandable But i started because the game has insane movent and its a shooter where you can grind shit. If you just like having crazy plain mission completion fun the games already for you. And then if you really like RPGS you can work your way thru standing ranks in several places and with "Syndicates" as well which lead to theur own unique rewards Also if you like trading there's a real player market. You dont need to invest 1cent into this gqme if you dont want Oh and im now at like 150 days and still so so much to learn and do Try the game. Seriously
That's what i hate and love at the same time "The Circuit"! The new generation of Tennos can get access to Warframes WAY EASIER than it was back in the day. Of course is random selection of warframes each week but still. You need to spend SEVERAL hours to unlock the entire Origin System so you can get access to the boss of each planet so you can unlock the warframe blue prints NOT TO MENTION ALSO that certain warframes such as Nidus, Octavia, Atlas etc was a NIGHTMARE to farm, now is just piece of cake.
I will say get in to the main game at least finish second dream than getting in to duviri. From that point you know the basic mechanics and properly have enough materials for building the frame in the circuit . If you want to get the most reward out of duviri you may want to finish the star chart open up the steel path option.
Yeah, DE should've made Duviri only available after completing the Second Dream quest. New players would be a lot less confused, a lot more prepared to build their first non-starter warframe from scratch in Duviri's Circuit mode, and they wouldn't get spoiled by Duviri on the massive story reveal in Second Dream that shows you that the warframes are not just armored suits.
warframe was one of the first games i played after getting a new laptop (last one is barely a potato) and just as said in the video i was so confused with the amount of infos and tabs after playing for few hours
ive been off and on the game for a few years, recently re-addicted. i love it. but i am routinely confused and find something new out every time i play.
Me: I tried playing this game w/ an old friend but he was too high level and I was bored out of it. *sorry this clip is 4 years old* Me: holy crap last I talked to him was 5 years ago maybe I should try it again
Tip dont focus on the choice that hard if u got amazone prime for what 3 bucks? You can get octevia for free im pretty sure the offer is here for 188 days for any late viewers (posted may 5th)
If you start with duviri it should be to test unowned gear and not for story. The connections are so vague you will not remember rthn when you roget tolthe pint they connect
Imagine telling newbies to learn how to play drifter mechanics and farm Duviri mats only for them to find out that Drifter melee doesn't exist in the star chart and the materials they just farmed are only used for Duviri only items and Incarnon adapters they would not see till maybe 300+ hours in game lmao.
Oh yeah NOW YOU START the main game. Even though that was main game but from the drifters point of view. Then you switch to half of the warframe point of view. Then you start the operators point of view which leads to the OTHER HALF of the warframe point of view.
@JOSHUA KNOX yeah it's still going. I've been getting into it again. Confusing at first because there is alot of content since then. But never any issues finding a squad and etc
So basically Digital Extremes wanted to make a new game comparable to Elden Ring, but they didn't want to abandon Warframe or even take resources away from it to start the new development effort, so they just kinda slapped it in there and played crazy stuff with story to make them be the same game somehow.
@@kurea5359 he's referring to Steve's fantasy to make a dark souls warframe, which they've split off half the team to go make as "soul frame". Duviri is clearly the implementation of where they were up to before they decided to go make it a full new game. leaving warframe players with this weird half way house. and I agree. its not specifically elden ring, but it is a souls.
Souls fans literally think every game is trying to be like or compete with them. Warframe is 1000000 times better than elden ring trust me no one is trying to be like y’all.
@@calcitegem6204 it's not us saying that though. I'm a Warframe guy. Steve the CREATIVE DIRECTOR OF WARFRAME is the souls fan! THAT is what we're referring to. And you know a Digital Extreme's next game is called SOUL FRAME right??? You didn't see the big reveal last year??? Call yourself a Warframe fan, you don't even know the teams intentions behind the game!
I've had 2 different characters on different consoles before duviri came out and have played through the teno opening plenty, so I think now that I'm starting a new one on pc for the first time, I'm going to start with duviri.
X-progression...i missed my original opportunity to switch my pc account to playstation simply because i didnt know it was a thing at the time, and now, with no pc, i absolutely refuse to restart. I had 26 base frames and 12 primes, and dozens of weapons. I spent a year and a half grinding for the most absolutely ridiculous shit. I might even still have some arcane helmets 😂 i dont remember anymore 😂
MH, I don't think the option to begin in Duviri is still offered. I started a new account to see if I wanted to repair my current one, or just start over (I decided on repair). I did not get the option to start in the Duviri area. Having just started it, I can see why. A new player would be 100% totally lost, frustrated, and discouraged trying to figure out what the hell is going on and how to proceed. I imagine they had a horrendous 'quit moment' metric. So, you might want to check this out for yourself, in case I made an error. If it is indeed now not available as a starting option, I would recommend that this video be removed as it will certainly do more harm than good. Especially as it has zero information on how to proceed through this absurd 'tutorial' should they decide to enter it later. :(
I thought putting Cetus on earth was a dumb move, but splitting the starter path with Duviri was just madness. Steve said in 2017 no matter what they changed it didn't affect onboarding of new players (don't get me started on why I think that is! ) Well, I would bet my last dollar this Duviri decision has finally effected new player numbers, in the negative direction.
I wish they included a method of farming the open world syndicate standings in Duviri. Getting frames was a grind, but I can run missions for days and have a good time. Whenever I start faction work I'm burned out and feel like quitting the game before even being done with the first bounty, mix in those horseshit unwinnable scenarios or a tusk thumper spawning inse a camp while I'm trying to do objectives and I'm done with WF for the day lol. Maybe that was fun with friends when it was new, putting new players through that soul crushing meatgrinder on their own is bs
Pledging syndicates let's you get most of your standing passively once you are on missions that grant a fair amount of xp. Early game syndicate missions are the way to go for aure.but as you go on a lot of syndicate standing will be easily gained passively. I agree being able to multitasking that in duviri would be nice
you're not "only missing" 15 minutes of gameplay you're missing at least a hundred hours of campaign that explains the drifter, what and who the tenno are, what the wall is, eternalism, etc. Going into duviri with no knowledge of any of that would be so extremely confusing for a new player. Along with the fact that it presents an entirely new style of gameplay. If someone got into warframe and chose duviri first they might expect the main game to have the same combat style and cinematic style. Then they go to the main game to realize the Combat is going to be fully warframe and faster paced for a long time before they even unlock an operator. Then they won't even see cutscene heavy missions till they get to second dream and that's still nothing compared to the New War and Duviri. It set's up completely unrealistic expectations for new players and thrusts them headfirst into lore that's been built upon for 10 years now.
Its going with that idea of beginning in the end, where all the things from Duviri eventually tie into the main star chart once you do The New War. In a way its a practical example of eternalism at work, the only problem is that the main campaign is like 50 hours of gameplay (Tested with an alt), so players might forget what happened in that timeline.
@@VisionsOfSpy personally, until the moment i reached the second dream, i completely forgot vor's prize and the other initial quests. Like i had no idea how i even got there.
Instead of doing the circuit they could just do relic missions and unlock prime frames (my third frame was Chroma prime). Or they can join an existing clan and get a bunch of blueprints that way. Remember with each frame you need slots. Over time you can unlock slots in game for free but this (and weapon slots) are the first opportunity new players start wondering how much real money they need to spend to play. That explanation would be very helpful in a new player video so they dont waste their starting plat. I would still save Duviri to after new war. You will have plenty of frames to play with. Use the circuit to get dupicates (there is a reason to have dupicates if you are a collector) or to get the frames behind annoying or difficult missions (assuming Gendal, Gaus, and that skater chick will be in rotation).
@@Bado6x You can sometimes earn slots in nightwave missions (doing the dailies to unlock all the different items) and sometimes special alerts (kind of like the ones going on now giving away skins). Also, if you go to their twitch streams sometimes they give away slots especially during their charity campaigns or near holidays. There is no standard drop for them though. But remember if they give you a free warframe and you already have it you can sell the frame and keep the slot. For the starting plat, i cant remember if you can get one warframe slot and 2 sets of weapons slots or two warframe and then some weapons. Just dont immediately spend on a new color pallette like I did (those are periodically given away too). Other people can teach you how to farm relics and sell for plat to people who have the money. Lastly if on xbox you can turn in points to get a giftcard to spend on plat, if you want to spend money without spending money.
I play it yesterday and watching this today. It seems whatever new player do at start didn't effect their progresssion on the game. But me personally also think just go with duviri first.
Personally, I don't really mind it that much. I think it should be something that is hidden until after The New War, since it does contain the Drifter, who is only supposed to be revealed later in, and it also has easier access to frames that are otherwise really tedious to get. I recently farmed the normal way for Ivara, and to find out that I did four times the work that little jimmy over there has to do for the same frame is a little irritating, y'know? I think that's the basic agreement across the community. Only speaking from my lens, of course.
No. It is not even close to Destiny or Destiny 2. To much to explain as to why. But since it is 100% free to play ALL the content, give it a try and see for yourself. :)
I’m new ish played a few years back an etc but how do u do the one missions where u play an the character not the Tenno an not the new dlc/ this update I’m new but I’m also old like I stayed a long time ago but also suit a while ago while while
