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Beginning Farmer Series: Episode Six 

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In this video I show our wash/pack station and talk about some of the main considerations. Please, as always, be sure to add your advice and guidance for other beginning growers in the comments. Constructively.
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@David-kd5mf
@David-kd5mf 5 лет назад
A video on the food saftey certification you spoke of would be helpful
@Dabird788
@Dabird788 5 лет назад
Hahaha... Kids on the market list. Don't want to forget them.
@davidadamkemp7302
@davidadamkemp7302 5 лет назад
There is a lot of considerations when setting up a wash/pack and what's successful will vary a lot from farm to farm. As Jesse mentioned, you can definitely get by with a very simple set up. A dunk tank, spray table and a hose will go a long way. A power washer is a small investment that will really speed up a lot of jobs. There is a lot of specialized equipment for processing vegetables and I personally feel like this is an area where it pays to invest, but this will depend on your operation and your goals. It's worth familiarizing yourself with what's out there and thinking hard about where you're aiming your business. In general a wash/pack is a space for materials handling and it's useful to think in terms of work flow. My wash/pack is definitely not where I wish it was, but what I'd eventually like and what seems to work best for farms that grow a diversity of crops, is cement floors with floor drains and putting your equipment on casters. That way your line can easily be modified and unused equipment can be stowed away. If you have a choice about location try to centralize your wash/pack relative to your main fields, you'll be spending a lot of time coming and going, it's worth running electric/water a little further or extending a driveway if need be. When erecting buildings and coolers keep in mind what your needs will be in the future and then try to go a little bigger still. I consistently underestimate what my future needs will be. It's not an exaggeration to say, I wish every structure I've ever built was bigger, haha. If you're lucky enough to have cement floors (I don't yet), consider making mini pallets the size of some stackable harvest crates and moving produce with a hand truck. It's a great middle ground for farms that dont need a full on pallet system. The farm I work for in the morning has this system, my farm (my afternoon gig) doesn't, it is really noticeable how much more work it is moving produce through wash/pack at my place. Jesse covered this one pretty good, but it's worth repeating. Food safety is paramount. Please don't cut any corners here. Sanitize tools and work surfaces, keep things off the ground, set up hand washing stations. Have a set of over boots and coveralls reserved for critter chores and keep them away from production and post-harvest areas. Think about how you're going to control birds and rodents in your wash/pack space. Small growers have a lot of leeway for the time being with food safety regulations, but it's still a big responsibility and deserves serious thought and attention. Thanks again Jesse, I'm grateful to you. By my tally there is a farm, a podcast, a youtube channel, writing commitments, a restaurant, a no-till website and young children. I'm not sure that's all possible. I assume you and Hannah have superpowers.
@notillgrowers
@notillgrowers 5 лет назад
Great stuff, as always, David. I look forward to one day reading your book on starting a small farm! I really think food safety should be at the top of everyone’s list. We are always seeking to do better in that area. And the trick is 330am, every day. And Hannah’s super powers. She’s incredible.
@SgtSnausages
@SgtSnausages 5 лет назад
Yes - absolutely on the additional video request. REF: FSMA, GAP.
@earoncooper3638
@earoncooper3638 5 лет назад
Yes please.
@charlesvickers4804
@charlesvickers4804 5 лет назад
GAP would require 30 to 50 ft from animals for production arias and garden fields . My audit coming tuesday. Lot to it . Sitting up late now reviewing and double checking paper work. Don't know about 50 shades of grey, but sure I've turned another shade of grey. The price getting for the two products in this makes it worth it. doing. Confident it will get much easier with time. It required a lot of rearranging on my farm. Glad I'm doing this early in the life of my operation the time energy and money saved. I would recommend anyone even remotely interested in GAP to study it before laying out your farm plan, it could save a lot of headaches ,and money in the future
@notillgrowers
@notillgrowers 5 лет назад
That’s some great advice about the farm plan and I knew there was a rule in terms of animals, but wasn’t sure what it was. I am generally all for people GAP certifying even if I think GAP regs are a little ridiculous at times. We’re food handlers, our processes should be safe.
@charlesvickers4804
@charlesvickers4804 5 лет назад
@@notillgrowers I finished and passed my first GAP audit. It does put extra steps in for me record keeping and processes. I am finding especially in the appendices that are record keeping forms a basis for record keeping in my business plan. Such as what ,how much and when I planted what. What I sold to to whom ,where when and how much.
@blackchickgroup7124
@blackchickgroup7124 8 месяцев назад
Thank you. Just starting and this made things feel a bit accessible. Especially the cool room.
@pbrezny
@pbrezny 4 года назад
Thank you again for sharing. It's so valuable to see the nuts and bolts of a functioning operation.
@MorgsBrew
@MorgsBrew 5 лет назад
I appreciate the real attitude here. It is what it is...
@c3mac55
@c3mac55 4 года назад
Yes on the fsma compliant wash / pack video!!
@norhilltx
@norhilltx 5 лет назад
Helpful stuff as always. Appreciate ya.
@faithworksfarm4903
@faithworksfarm4903 4 года назад
Not gonna lie, Yall got me with the washing machine.
@parkerbender9189
@parkerbender9189 4 года назад
You cant skip that beer 30! And yes definitely do a good safety video. I have contacted my local health department and they couldn't tell me anything about selling to restaurants and Individuals so I am just doing it. But it would definitely be nice to know what I need so I can be prepared for that day when they show up to inspect me
@tinamccartney3778
@tinamccartney3778 5 лет назад
Awesome video. I wish I had the time, energy and effort you do! My whole 3 acre yard would be a garden! Also,,,I know when beer:30 is but, didnt know there was such a time as beer:45...lol. Next time my hubby questions my 2nd beer coming so quickly after the 1st?, Im using beer:45!
@notillgrowers
@notillgrowers 5 лет назад
Haha, the first one always goes down too easily.
@erikhardy1077
@erikhardy1077 4 года назад
Please do a video on the fsma and gap, as well as liability insurance...do you use it?
@clarkansas6590
@clarkansas6590 2 года назад
Great information
@korynorwood234
@korynorwood234 Год назад
Please talk about your CSA, gap, and other certifications
@gangofgreenhorns2672
@gangofgreenhorns2672 2 года назад
Me: getting a call from my work as Jesse keeps loudly saying "beer thirty" lol
@MilesRoseProductions
@MilesRoseProductions 2 года назад
I have been thinking about how to create an affordable off-grid cooling solution for vegetables... It is unaffordable to use solar to run a cool bot AC, and I want to avoid running a generator all the time, so I'm looking into other alternatives. I'm interested in how you mentioned you guys used a freezer to make ice, then put the ice coolers to keep your vegetables cold. How well did that system work in practice? Would you recommend this for off grid situations that only have enough electricity for a solar chest freezer, but not enough off grid electricity for a cool bot AC?
@3angelsfarmacy
@3angelsfarmacy 5 лет назад
Thx for the vid. Where did you get your certified scale from?
@notillgrowers
@notillgrowers 5 лет назад
It was several ears ago but I want to say webstaurant.com where we often get some bags we like. It’s pricy, but most of our markets have required it.
@hartlovefarms5357
@hartlovefarms5357 4 года назад
Another great video, thanks. Do you use straight isopropyl alcohol in your spray bottles or is it diluted? How big are your blue tubs? Thanks
@notillgrowers
@notillgrowers 4 года назад
Straight. And the tubs are 15 to 20 gallons. Bumping up this year to 25 gallon tanks this year I think
@Rymorin4
@Rymorin4 4 года назад
getting to market with no tables xD lmao that is a lesson i do not wanna learn the hard way!
@kylemanasseh2541
@kylemanasseh2541 3 года назад
Get to know your farmacist lol I like that
@SgtSnausages
@SgtSnausages 5 лет назад
Do you use any kind of sanitizer in your blue bins? I do a three bin system, too ... but worry about spreading contamination. One head of lettuce dunked in the wash bin will potentially contaminate everything else that goes in that wash water after. It's on the immediate "to do" list ... to do... something... about this so I can stop worrying about it this year.
@notillgrowers
@notillgrowers 5 лет назад
Our protocol with the bins is sanitize them in the sun, then spray and wipe, then fill, wash/rinse no more than twice then dump the water, sanitize, then refill (it sounds more intensive than it is-still goes pretty fast). This always leaves a limited quantity within which we can spread contamination. There are tablets and mixes, but we haven’t gone that route yet. As we grow we are starting to begin exploring GAP so we will have to for certifying for sure.
@davidadamkemp7302
@davidadamkemp7302 5 лет назад
We use sanidate and like it. It's an organic peroxide, so it's kind of nasty stuff in concentration (burns skin, reacts with metals). I think we use 5oz per 100 gallons in the dunk tank (we follow the label, it's worth checking that I'm remembering right). It breaks down into water and oxygen so it's safe to put down the drain. We started using it for food safety but also like that it gives you a little extra shelf life on greens. Seven springs farm has the best price I've found so far.
@paxtianodirtfrog8947
@paxtianodirtfrog8947 5 лет назад
I want to ask a question totally unrelated to this video. I need advice on what time of year would be best to transition from my current job to market gardening full time. I have a financial benchmark which I will reach in November 2020 and can use my paid leave to get paid for six weeks after I leave the job. I can work as long as I need and want the shortest down time possible without getting paid. I'll be farming in another state (Alabama) so I won't be able to prepare my grow area ahead of time except for maybe stale seed bedding with a silage tarp. I thought about maybe starting in February using season extension but lack experience with that. I am practicing with some low till beds growing greens now which I assume will be my fastest source of income when I try to get my operation off the ground.. Any advice would be much appreciated. Oh yeah the farm will be in zone 7A or B(right on the line).
@notillgrowers
@notillgrowers 5 лет назад
So I would recommend getting your beds going this fall, perhaps on a weekend, just getting it all mowed and tarped on a long weekend. Take a soil test at that point. Weight those tarps VERY well, and leave them over the winter. In the spring, remove the tarps, add amendments and form your beds (if given the time you could also do this the previous fall before you tarp for the winter) on another long weekend. Either so a cover crop (if you have time to come back and mow it a couple time over the summer then re-tarp by august) or just re-tarp and leave until the late summer. Your beds will be ready to plant anytime. I would at least put up a caterpillar tunnel or several and load it up in October with lettuce and kale if you could. That will be ready to sell all winter. A high tunnel grant through the NRCS should be looked into as early as possible if you want one. That way that’s ready to go when you’re ready to plant. Hope that helps!
@paxtianodirtfrog8947
@paxtianodirtfrog8947 5 лет назад
@@notillgrowers Thanks a ton! I see the logic in this and it seems doable so I'll work from this. Thanks again!
@plantbasedlargefamily8724
@plantbasedlargefamily8724 5 лет назад
how do you sell your greens/produce? i dont remember you talking about it. (im new to your channel though) we grow about 40lbs/week of greens as well (mainly lettuce).
@plantbasedlargefamily8724
@plantbasedlargefamily8724 5 лет назад
nm i didnt watch long enough ;) but seriously, you sell 40lbs of greens through CSA & market? that's cool!
@notillgrowers
@notillgrowers 5 лет назад
Indeed. We sell most of our greens at market and to restaurants with some going to the CSA!
@plantbasedlargefamily8724
@plantbasedlargefamily8724 5 лет назад
@@notillgrowers we're at 2 markets. the only ones selling salad greens. we're selling 1-2lbs/week. trying to drum up interest in a CSA. sigh. small towns...
@notillgrowers
@notillgrowers 5 лет назад
@@plantbasedlargefamily8724 I feel ya. So we deliver our csa which helps sell it in saturated markets but also smaller ones. Charge 5 for delivery every week, keep an tight radius. To move more greens we grow small amounts of staples - squash, carrots, onions, potaotes. People will almost always buy lettuce when they buy one of those. That definitely helps.
@peterellis5626
@peterellis5626 4 года назад
Is that blackboard paint with your lists on it? Sorry if you mentioned and I missed it...
@notillgrowers
@notillgrowers 4 года назад
Yes it is but I don’t really like it. Chalk is strangely inefficient to write on every day. Gonna try dry erase clipboards next year, hung on a chalk board. The chalkboard will have more permanent writing, the dry ease clipboards (or possibly just clipboards) will have daily lists. That’s the idea right now.
@peterellis5626
@peterellis5626 4 года назад
@@notillgrowers Formal planning is a huge hole in my game. I'm naturally disinclined to do it and building any sort of discipline about it is proving difficult. Notebooks get set down and forgotten, clipboards would likely be much the same. The idea of a wall sized sign much like you have, in an unavoidable place, seems like a tool that could help me. I watch a ton of youtube videos, among them Justin Rhodes, and he's walking along vlogging on his way to a chore counting down the minutes he has to get this done. I do not dream of having a schedule so tightly drawn as that. But if I could have something that helped keep me on the actual priority tasks for the day! Anyway, a big wall size almost calendar might really help me. ;)
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