Behringer JT-4000 Micro - Any Good For DAWLESS?

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This video explores whether the ‪@behringer‬ JT-4000 Micro can cut it as a multi-voice DAWLESS synth in 2024.
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At less than £50, this little beauty can do lush pads and 90's retro trance sounds 'til the cows come home. But can it work without a DAW? Is it a bargain synth destined for your DAWLESS setup, or just a toy???

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14 апр 2024

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@lundsweden 2 месяца назад

Behringer f'ed up bigtime with no MIDI in. What a nightmare to make it work.

@3dims 2 месяца назад

Thanks for your thoughts. I suspect Behringer had their reasons. It’s certainly proven to be a talking point.

@larrypendergraft2696 25 дней назад

I would definitely buy one if I could hook it up to my MIDI keyboard.

@3dims 25 дней назад

@@larrypendergraft2696where there is a will, there is a way…. You might find the Pro-VS more suited to your needs though.

@larrypendergraft2696 25 дней назад

@@3dims, point taken. I want something that I can just plug the keyboard into and it works, without having to hang extra boxes and cables off of it. I guess that's a no-go for a $49 synth, at least for now.

@mr_floydst 3 месяца назад

Great work here! (thanks for the shoutout) Reminds me I really need to post an update on how to use a cheap microcontroller to achieve the same thing.

@3dims 3 месяца назад

Thanks for stopping by Floyd. Love your channel and find it a source of so much useful stuff.

@thepcgamer2169 3 месяца назад

I used a Akai MPC One + for this work around .😀

@3dims 3 месяца назад

Yeah, I’ve heard this was a thing. Apparently some other grooveboxes work in a similar way. Thanks for stopping by.

@thepcgamer2169 3 месяца назад

@@3dims Also did it with the Pro VS Mini too lol but yeah it works great

@lundsweden Месяц назад

The Behringer JT-4000, now with a free degree in ICT/programming, which you'll definitely need in order to use the MIDI in in a DAWless setting!

@3dims Месяц назад

😂

@7177YT 3 месяца назад

Interesting workaround! Thank you!

@3dims 3 месяца назад

I thought so. There are other options but this seemed to be more budget friendly.

@krzysztofzimmermann9037 2 месяца назад

That's cool! I think that jt-4000 micro can be really great if you already have other gear that you can easily put it in chain with.

@3dims 2 месяца назад

Thanks pal. Yeah, its certainly not a standalone device. The keyboard isn’t what I’d call playable - but useful to check the thing works!

@instantnoodle80 3 месяца назад

This is really cool. Thanks for the info

@3dims 3 месяца назад

Anytime my friend.

@patrickm.4469 Месяц назад

Aconnect is a life saver, thank you for sharing! I got my JT-4000 talking to my MIDI keyboard and my DAW! Even incorporated my Volca Beats from my DAW through my raspberry pi and MIDI drum pads!

@3dims Месяц назад

Nice one Patrick! So chuffed it’s been a help.

@junkbandman 3 месяца назад

Really useful, great detail on connections using the Pi; got a Pi 3B knocking around somewhere unused so this is worth a try.

@3dims 3 месяца назад

No worries. I’ve got a Pi 3B now as a dedicated USB midi USB host. It works a treat.

@kenfuller9907 3 месяца назад

Fantastic, worked perfectly!

@3dims 3 месяца назад

Nice one!

@kenfuller9907 3 месяца назад

Works on the KORG Nu:Tekt too

@3dims 3 месяца назад

@@kenfuller9907 which is perfect as you only need one power supply.

@benjarrell1122 3 месяца назад

I bought one on a whim and quickly sold it. It is a neat device, but even with workarounds like this, it is almost literally a VST in a box. I could only see myself using it with a Max4 Live programmer/librarian in my DAW, and at that point I might as well just be using a VST anyway.

@3dims 3 месяца назад

Fair enough. If there wasn’t an analogue filter then I’d be right there with you. For me, the filter makes the JT-4000 good VFM.

@jonmaddison 2 месяца назад

Out of the box MIDI routing in the Raspberry Pi?! Who knew! Awesome, thanks for the walkthrough. I wonder if it works on a Pi Zero as I have a few of them laying around (plus they are cheaper, albeit need an external USB hub to connect the devices into it)

@3dims 2 месяца назад

No worries. I’ve been experimenting with the Pi to use more of its power, so expect to see this original idea expanded upon.

@patrickm.4469 Месяц назад

Pi Zero should work fine, its such a tiny amount of computation to route the MIDI data compared to what the Pi Zero is capable of. You are correct about the powered hub I'm sure too

@3dims Месяц назад

Thanks for stopping by and letting us know your thoughts.

@HeberHere 3 месяца назад

so cool

@3dims 3 месяца назад

Thanks dude!

@koncreteto2758 3 месяца назад

Cool video, another thing worth mentioning is a few midi merge boxes have a usb midi out now, even some audio interaces have usb midi out now aswell, i have a arturia minifuse4 andnit has 2 ports in the back that can handle midi, audio and memory cards

@3dims 3 месяца назад

Thanks for adding these points

@3dims 3 месяца назад

The other option I will try out in the future is using AUM on the iPad Pro I have. This should work DAWLESS, but I felt the Pi was one of the more cost effective options, so decided to plump for a video show casing this in the first instance.

@solartonytony5868 3 месяца назад

what version of linux are you running on the pi ?

@3dims 3 месяца назад

It’s the 32bit flavour of Raspbian.

@fritsvanzanten3573 3 месяца назад

Interesting. I hardly have a clue about these things, but I'm interested. So what does SSH mean?

@3dims 3 месяца назад

SSH is a way of remotely sending commands to the Raspberry Pi without having a screen and keyboard plugged into the Pi. Sounds more complex than it is.

@fritsvanzanten3573 3 месяца назад

@@3dims Thank you!

@brimans3092 3 месяца назад

The number of people, purely dawless is minute. Most people who play out live will have a laptop or ipad in the mix BUT.. For the minimal cost to Behringer, they should have put 3.5mm midi ports on it.. And of course they know that this would inspire lots of RU-vid videos on the matter.. Whats the ole saying? Any publicity is.... 😂

@3dims 3 месяца назад

That’s refreshing to hear… I’ve moved between Dawless and hybrid over the years, but if you read some of the comments on my last video you’d think not having midi in was the living end. There may be some truth in leaving stuff out, either to encourage upsell or discussion.

@Bigfamilyhomestead 27 дней назад

That's a lot of work for a $50 synth...

@3dims 27 дней назад

Agreed, but even with the work / additional purchases IMO it still is an affordable and compact option, with future expansion to boot. Not for everyone, but it will be for some.

@evertmeurs 2 месяца назад

When I use a raspberry pi 2 I hear interference sound. Anybody knows how to solve that?

@3dims Месяц назад

I would suggest having a look at the RPi 2 power supply. I find that different USB plugs are better at isolating electrical interference than others. What are you using?

@evertmeurs Месяц назад

@@3dims I use a Samsung Phone power supply.

@3dims Месяц назад

@@evertmeurs can you try another power supply? Maybe a USB power bank if you have one? That could help you isolate what's generating the noise.

@evertmeurs Месяц назад

@@3dims I now have a different problem. When I turn on my raspberry pi and my jt4000 is also connected, my jt4000 starting to play random sounds. When I try to play on my midi keyboard no midi connection and the jt4000 keeps making random sounds. Is my raspberry pi broken or something?

@3dims Месяц назад

That’s a bit odd. My suggestion would be to try a fresh install of the OS. Could be a spot of corruption on the SD card which is creating some weird effects. Let us know how you get on…

@rexcellencemagee6729 3 месяца назад

This how you deal with a sound you like, I have had a lot of fun with mine, I didn’t go as far as yo did, but I have ordered what I need to make it MIDI, one guy says it’s a toy? I’m having some gum with it, this will be my first time adding MIDI capabilities I’ll have a total of 4, I don’t know if I can turn it 16 voices, going to try. It’s just for fun and a learning experience I’ll be adding a user made osilator, for fun. I’m doing it for any other reason!

@3dims 3 месяца назад

Nice one. Glad to hear you are seeing past the diminutive size and getting some interesting stuff out of yours. I have been considering getting a 2nd, but will hold off for the time being as I’ve still got more exploring to do.

@dmitribovski1292 3 месяца назад

Should have used a micro controller.

@3dims 3 месяца назад

I’m sure you are right, but I can only use what I have.

@tbeardmore1 3 месяца назад

it conects to the swing easy enough without all that pie programming business

@3dims 3 месяца назад

Ah cool. I also hear MPC One works without a MIDI Host. Unfortunately I have neither of these. Thanks for letting us know.

@longlostrobots8146 3 месяца назад

I tried the KeyStep and it will not work

@LaChona420k 3 месяца назад

dude its a toy.

@3dims 3 месяца назад

Absolutely. Awesome you can make cool tunes with a toy these days!

@Pamberjack_ 3 месяца назад

So were the 303 and 606. Cheap plastic boxes. Doesn’t mean they aren’t useful and can’t sound good…

@3dims 3 месяца назад

100% agree. I drew the same 303 comparison in a previous comment (on another video). I aslo got to thinking about how LFO use a Speak & Spell on their eponymous track, so we are in good company :)