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Behringer Model D - I am selling it already 

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edit : What I am saying about this - is that it eventually needs to be calibrated. It's a pain and a full 11 pages in the manual are dedicated to it. One commentor here completely lost the plot and thought I hadn't simply - 'used' the synth ie: I didn't twist the OSC knobs to tune them. (The most basic thing you could possibly do on a Snyth). THIS ONE IS NOT DRIFTED OR OUT OF CALIBRATION. I didn't tune this one - as I wasn't playing a song with it!
RANT! I just bought another one, and I'm selling it immediately. I forgot about the maintenance part of it. Is it a good Synth? Yeah! It's awesome... but I have to think about the future 'work' , and I already own Universal Audio's software version of it.
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@NEKRWSPHERE
@NEKRWSPHERE Месяц назад
The problem in Canada is 1. Unrealistic prices (and lack of competition only partly explains this, the larger part is apparently 2. Canadian government whose Raison D'Etre is to ruin all and any private enterprise that hasn't already ruined itself thanks to its inept business practices - so there's part 3). But I digress. In the end - because of such prices - no one wants to buy anything that costs more than $500 CAD, and that in turn causes even the large stores like L&M to not purchase anything worthwhile... At all... So anything even remotely good is perpetually "out of stock", and if you are one of those die hard local economy supporters, - you will be purchasing an out of stock product and then you'll wait a couple of months to have your gear finally delivered. (I've heard of cases where people were waiting longer than 6 months, though it never happened to me... Yet?). The situation isn't any better for Canadians when they use large US chains like Sweetwater. Shipping companies like UPS are a mafia that charges you 2.5X duties and taxes (I wish I was exaggerating, I was recently dinged over $600 CAD for an item whose duties and taxes equaled to $259 CAD. So the only places a Canadian who isn't a millionaire could actually shop for music gear comfortably is 1. EBay, and only from the sellers who use regular mail to ship, or who are onboard with EBay's GSP (Global Shipping Program, which charges only about 8-10% more than the actual duties and taxes, which in case of synthesizers is 6% + your regular HST). 2. Reverb (for used gear only) and 3. Kijiji (also, obviously, for used gear). So yeah bro... It sucks to be us.
@45rpm.
@45rpm. Месяц назад
I tuned my model d internally with just with a screwdriver. It was badly out of calibration when it was new but it has stayed ok for over a year now. I calibrated the tuning to a VST synth's tuning to get it right over a 5 octave keyboard.
@QuestForGear
@QuestForGear Месяц назад
Good idea using the vst - I didn't think to try that.
@Heavy_Distortion
@Heavy_Distortion Месяц назад
You need AJH Synth V-Scale module. Friggin' awesome! Trigger Model D via cv with V-Scale separately trimming each oscillator tuning/span. My secret weapon. I tune against VST synth square wave.
@QuestForGear
@QuestForGear Месяц назад
Never heard of it - will check it out, thanks!
@erbro
@erbro Месяц назад
David Valentino... hmmm... sounds to me like a character from Cyberpunk 2077. Getting hate comments is annoying. Being ignored is worse though. Not in Cyberpunk 2077 mind you, there being ignored is absolutely cool!
@QuestForGear
@QuestForGear Месяц назад
Love Cyberpunk.
@KelticKabukiGirl
@KelticKabukiGirl Месяц назад
You have a new Tgirl Sub.... maybe David's a chaser! 😉 😅 I am a guitarist of 35 years, and I run 3 giant pedalboards along with 6-7 synth pedals, I am essentially running my pedalboards like modular synths, but instead of a keyboard..... I do crazy guitar shit, and a sustainiac loaded guitar can already do theramin tones, add a Way Huge Ringworm or EQD Data Corrupter with some phase, fuzz, comp, delay, verb, and tremolo and yeah.... I have been essentially using a "floor Eurorack" for years now..Just through 300W combined tube amps and 12x12 guitar speakers- 2 x3/4 stacks-!. I don't even need to plug the guitar in to play it! (fuck its expensive! Well, I get cool gear in the USA, you stay cool and have free healthcare... we go bankrupt getting a 5 mile ambulance ride.....Canada still wins good Sir!!!!)
@QuestForGear
@QuestForGear Месяц назад
Cool I'll check your vids out!
@unduloid
@unduloid Месяц назад
Just tune it. It's not that hard. Even I manage to tune _mine,_ and I'm a complete dolt.
@QuestForGear
@QuestForGear Месяц назад
I'll attempt it at some point, thanks!
@wouternieuwenhuizen4305
@wouternieuwenhuizen4305 26 дней назад
Behringer has no quality check, this ine is mad out of tune, calibrate it , its simple all u need is a smal screwdriver and some patience.
@QuestForGear
@QuestForGear 24 дня назад
I sold it, I'll just use software versions - no chance of hardware failures or calibration drift.
@philxdev
@philxdev 25 дней назад
if you don´t want to deal with that, totally up to you of course, but the whole operation of calibrating the oscillators takes about 25min if you have never done that... and 10 min of that is just warming up the damn thing. the Behringer Synthtribe software and a USB cable to your Model D make it straightforward to reset the machine and change control voltages and calibration stuff... opening the thing up and running the notes you need for calibration in your DAW is a breeze and you should be good for a while... I mean I like my Sequential Take 5, just clicking the "calibrate button" in the main menu and have all that done for me in a couple of seconds but for the price and the fact that even other more pricey machines still have these "quirks", I´d say this is manageable.. just take 30min and be done.... or not^^ I can definitely understand why not.
@michaos1
@michaos1 Месяц назад
There are two screws per oscillator, pitch and “octave drift”. You tune the first to a high pitch like A5 and then the second to a low A2 and repeat. Took me 30 mins. No sysex sex. It’s like tuning a guitar with a Floyd rose when you need to revisit previous pegs & do it multiple times.
@michaos1
@michaos1 Месяц назад
I have to admit, I had been delaying this process deliberately for about two years because I thought it was too much, but it wasn’t. Now I have a perfectly tuned cheap synthesiser that indeed resembles the real moog (which I’ve never seen alive).
@QuestForGear
@QuestForGear Месяц назад
Thanks I do intend on doing it.
@infn8loopmusic
@infn8loopmusic Месяц назад
Behringer is hit or miss, I guess right. Ignore the ridiculous trolls. Just do what makes you happy. And If you dont have the Minifreak... Well... Definitely you need the Minifreak if you dont have it. 🤘👽🛸 Cool channel man
@QuestForGear
@QuestForGear Месяц назад
Meh the trolls have become part of the channel. it's gear + trolls now. And yeah- I find Behringer mostly hit. I've only really had 1 bad piece from them - which was an old preamp 20 years ago. Appreciate your comment.
@infn8loopmusic
@infn8loopmusic Месяц назад
@@QuestForGear right on. Considering what Behringer has actually done to make replicas of such amazing stuff so affordable it's hard to complain about any of it. Trying to make a business model like that actually work is really challenging and risky even with amazing lawyers and engineers. They're definitely doing things right
@Roarksmusic
@Roarksmusic Месяц назад
"Just do what makes you happy." Terrible advice but a win with the Korgie reccomendation. Woof woof!
@philxdev
@philxdev 25 дней назад
@@QuestForGear Same here.. only piece of gear that gave us a hard time back then was a Behringer mixer that was bleeding the sound through the channels, while all the Mackies did not... other then that it was usable for live but not for recording... and this has been 25 years ago....
@michaels8607
@michaels8607 Месяц назад
Aside from David, welcome to the land of musical toys...I do not have any modular gear yet, so right now I use my hardware samplers for efx and to mangle/ alter the music. I do have an analog Roland and run music through that, and I am exploring software like Macaw, Acid, CSound, etc, because I like total chaos/control at the same time. I might get something like the Model D, Proton, and especially want the Moog Subharmonicon...
@QuestForGear
@QuestForGear Месяц назад
I'm torn on the Model D as it sounds good - and has that classic layout... but I dunno about heading into that 10 pages of calibration. (When other options don't have that). As for Macaw, Acid, CSound, - I'm very unfamiliar with those, I will check them out!
@stevens8614
@stevens8614 Месяц назад
the model d is good once you know the synth basics of programming
@QuestForGear
@QuestForGear Месяц назад
No doubt. I'm getting there.
@kentaccordionist
@kentaccordionist Месяц назад
Had mine for years and I haven’t noticed any drift.
@QuestForGear
@QuestForGear Месяц назад
Yeah as I understand it - it eventually happens. "Analog circuitry can drift off with time and temperature, and as components age."
@mechasartre3694
@mechasartre3694 Месяц назад
I have a Pro-800 and though it sounds great and is easy to tune, it goes out of tune within a minute or two.
@QuestForGear
@QuestForGear Месяц назад
Yeah as I understand it - it eventually happens. "Analog circuitry can drift off with time and temperature, and as components age."
@eddievanheinous666
@eddievanheinous666 Месяц назад
Looking forward to your next installment: "This dumb guitar.... I am selling it already! Just like the last guitar I bought, it showed up out of tune and is absolutely unplayable!"
@QuestForGear
@QuestForGear Месяц назад
Curious - what guitar did you buy? I don't order a ton of guitars through the mail - but when I do - they always need a setup.
@NEKRWSPHERE
@NEKRWSPHERE Месяц назад
Oh, for the other thing... Don't get Model D, definitely. For a semi-modular mono synth it's positively boring. Get "Neutron" and "Cobol", (if you're into Behringer clones) and you'll be loaded up to the gills. Or if you're the monophonic guy, - get Neutron and Proton. And you would prolly benefit from a comprehensive sequencer of some sort - the more steps - the better... One that is a bit more articulated as far as interface compared to the Keystep. As far as knowledge and plans go, - I know (sort of) what I'm doing, and I have a plan... But you know what my friends from the Middle East say? - "You want to make the Maker laugh - tell him about your plans". I have gear I bought months ago and still haven't even unpacked, because it needs to work with OTHER gear which suddenly is "out of stock" everywhere and at once online, or just isn't available for acceptable price. The one good thing I noticed is that your studio is the epitome of cleanliness compared to mine. So your equipment has greater chances of becoming "vintage" and gaining rather than losing its resale value 😂
@funkingitup1805
@funkingitup1805 Месяц назад
Great job making fun of a guy that watched your video and cared enough to comment. People come for the rambling unfocused negativity. I loved that you cared so little about his comment that you dwelled on it for days and brought it in to your next video. You are surely on the path to success.
@QuestForGear
@QuestForGear Месяц назад
Thanks! your next !
@GENFX303
@GENFX303 Месяц назад
Nice1 lol ​@@igbatious
@QuestForGear
@QuestForGear Месяц назад
Yeah - knew I did the wrong your you're when I hit the button. Thanks!
@GremFandango
@GremFandango Месяц назад
Found David's boyfriend.
@GremFandango
@GremFandango Месяц назад
lol - funkingitup is David's stud muffin.
@KelticKabukiGirl
@KelticKabukiGirl Месяц назад
Can you tune a RIng Mod to Dalek?????!!! (Apparently that's what they used but never wrote down the settings, apparently took forever to dial it in again!)
@QuestForGear
@QuestForGear Месяц назад
I've not tried on the Model D.... I just sold a 2600 (Behringer's version) - and that (Arp2600) is the Synth that was usually done on.
@sergoz123
@sergoz123 Месяц назад
Oscillators drifting is an issue with lost of VCOs, in eurorack as well. Definitely the Model D is not special in that regard. I've had to tune expensive oscillatos more than once. Forget the drift, I think between the Mother, Grandmother and this Model D you have a lot of overlap. If you want a ready to go pre-patched module for your case that can also be patched, there's much better options. Intellijel Atlantix, the Pittsburgh Modular Taiga, the Behringer Neutron or the incoming Proton are ones that come to mind.
@QuestForGear
@QuestForGear Месяц назад
Thanks very much I've checked out a few of those but not all of them.
@sergoz123
@sergoz123 Месяц назад
@@QuestForGear If you like the Model D, play it. Calibration is something a lot of analog synths need every once in a while. The mother 32 is no exception, but it has automatic calibration mode that doesn't involve turning screws on the back, but it's not a big deal anyway. It'd be a matter of a small turn to get it up to the right note, 5 minute job and it will be good for a long time.
@QuestForGear
@QuestForGear Месяц назад
", but it has automatic calibration mode " - this was my whole point that I guess I didn't articulate well. I KNOW they all need maintenance - and maybe I don't want to deal with it - maybe I just keep my VSTs. MY MODEL D IS FINE - IT HAS NOT DRIFTED - IT DOES NOT YET NEED CALIBRATION, is the point I didn't get across in the video. And I am not the only one in reviews to complain that the Model D procedure is more than it needs to be in terms of calibration. Other reviewers have mentioned in it both magazines and here on youtube. Thanks for your comment.
@sergoz123
@sergoz123 Месяц назад
@@QuestForGear Yeah yeah I got your point beforehand, not saying your unit is not fine. My personal opinion is that it's not a big deal. For me at least. But eurorack is intrinsically something that makes you do workarounds constantly, so I guess that's why I'm fine with this. For the Model D, I think if behringer had implemented this feature it'd have bumped up the price somewhat, so they probably left it out to keep it competitive.
@philxdev
@philxdev 25 дней назад
@@QuestForGear nah, you get your point through correctly. you like the unit but don´t want to deal with that kind of stuff... there might just be a slight gap for some in the expectation of the complexity and time consumption of said calibration task.
@michaels8607
@michaels8607 Месяц назад
I subbed because you admitted you have no idea what you're doing as opposed to David, who is the MASTER of nothingness..
@QuestForGear
@QuestForGear Месяц назад
Well yeah, my channel is super simple... I like gear and I talk about it. If the trolls want some attention - alright - I'll read their comments - but 100% of the time - what they are saying is unnecessary. I compliment other folks on their videos everyday - I can't wrap my head around these guys that leave the crap comments - WHO ARE THEY TRYING TO IMPRESS?
@QuestForGear
@QuestForGear Месяц назад
My favorite troll comments are the one's that say I can't play guitar. And yet... in the video I am holding a guitar, and most certainly playing it.
@michaels8607
@michaels8607 Месяц назад
@@QuestForGear They are lonely and want to be on their knees to service you..
@michaels8607
@michaels8607 Месяц назад
@@QuestForGear Well Masculine men do not watch each other's pockets nor give a damn what gear they use. The trolls did not buy our gear, and even some content creators have mental issues. I have had some creators get so upset I did not agree with them, they have made threats and invited themselves to fight me. Since that's my wheelhouse, I tell them to come get these hands ,and then all of a sudden they run off. After that they sometimes try to report me, crying because they did not 'win' the battle of wits. In your case i think it might be a question of wanting you to their Boyfriend..
@clarenceoveur9497
@clarenceoveur9497 Месяц назад
Someone is thin-skinned lol DFarts got into your head mate!
@QuestForGear
@QuestForGear Месяц назад
Not at all. He wanted attention and he got it. Tons of trolls - if they want to look stupid they can look stupid.
@CeresKLee
@CeresKLee Месяц назад
I was seeking knowledge not a shitposting rant. You are blocked.
@QuestForGear
@QuestForGear Месяц назад
No please!! Don't do that! Come back!!!!!
@GremFandango
@GremFandango Месяц назад
@@QuestForGear lolz
@QuestForGear
@QuestForGear Месяц назад
PLEASE TELL ME YOU COME BACK - MY LIFE HASNT BEEN THE SAME!
@CeresKLee
@CeresKLee Месяц назад
@@QuestForGear damn, blocking does not work. bother
@pirateradioFPV
@pirateradioFPV Месяц назад
So, it's actually a video about David disguised as letting go of the Model D, because Model D you can let go of but David . . not so much. Guess we all know who he was after and if he got what he wanted 😂
@QuestForGear
@QuestForGear Месяц назад
I guess? lol. David's just looking for man love.
@DiodeMilliampere
@DiodeMilliampere Месяц назад
Wow.. This is the most tepid RU-vid video I've ever seen in my life and I've been at this website since the beginning more or less looool
@QuestForGear
@QuestForGear Месяц назад
I'm glad you enjoyed it. Thanks for liking and subscribing.
@QuestForGear
@QuestForGear Месяц назад
Awesome you have videos! I'll go through them and review.
@DiodeMilliampere
@DiodeMilliampere Месяц назад
@@QuestForGear I mean you're kind of lacking in credibility. If you can't even be bothered to turn the oscillator tuning knobs so they are in tune with each other. The synthesizer only makes the sounds that it's set to. So if you set it to arbitrary settings, it's going to sound weird. This is like the most flagrant case of user error I've ever seen
@QuestForGear
@QuestForGear Месяц назад
Your videos are amazing.
@QuestForGear
@QuestForGear Месяц назад
I'm just not as smart as you. Sorry to disappoint you.
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