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Being in the RIGHT PLACE at the RIGHT TIME // EP.77 

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Sometimes things work out and one is in the right place at the right time, call it luck or...
We got down from the mountain after several days stucked in snow. we wanted to rest in the camping in Chos Malal. But our Land Rover had another plans. After hearing bad noises coming from the engine bay, Kai put the alternator apart and saw that one of the bearings broke and partially got melted. after repairing it, we could finally rest.
Sometimes one has the feeling of running out of luck, this was one of those moments. what we didn't know is how this would affect our journey the next days.
As we continue towards Salto del Agrio and Caviahue, temperatures start to drop and precipitation hits us.
What it looked like a short weather front, it turned into the last big snow storm of the season.
Join us in the video where we land in Winter Wonderland around Villa Pehuenia and the Batea Mahuida volcano. Sleeping between snow and Araucarias.
Enjoy the Ride!
#wintercamping #drivingonsnow
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We, Kai & Irati from Germany and Spain, are currently on a full-time Overland journey. We quit our jobs, our apartment and left Germany mid of March 2022. We traveled all the way from Germany to South Africa, and had amazing experiences for one and half years. Follow us in season 3 where we will be exploring South America
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Introducing our Home on Wheels the Bluelandy, check the Room Tour(*):
• Land Rover Defender 11...
Land Rover 110 TD5 (MY 1998)
X-Vision-X PopTop (roof Tent)
BF Goodrich tires 265/75/R16
Land Rover HD springs & Kony Heavy track Raid shock absorbers
GMB "Esel" roof rack
GMB long range fuel tank
GMB Sandboards
X-Vision-X exterior storage box (rear left)
DIY Custom outdoor shower
270° Foxwing Awning - Rhino Rack
200W Victron Energy solar system
- Solar Panel: 2x Offgrittec 100W
- Charge controller amzn.to/3gXf2s5
- Battery Monitor amzn.to/3VSNwdN
- Inverter amzn.to/3BgTEon
Nolden 7" Bi-LED headlamps
Additional Headlamps amzn.to/3VXo32P
HELLA Value Fit Exterior lights amzn.to/3F46eso
ExTec rear door folding table
DIY Custom Flight case interior
Autotherm D2 Diesel Air-Heater amzn.to/3P5NVaL
32 l Engel Fridge / Freezer
Lifesaver Jerrycan water filter amzn.to/3UIybvG
Garmin Drive 52 amzn.to/3Qz7tFz
Camera Gear (*):
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@badfinger61
@badfinger61 3 месяца назад
Super video. Well done, Irati. Kai proves his excellent mechanical skills once more and Bluelandy shows how capable a car it is in the snow. Carsten survives a snow bivouac. 💪 Bravo tres amigos/amiga! Carry on!
@Thebluelandy
@Thebluelandy 3 месяца назад
Thank you ! We were feeling like kids seeing snow for the first time. It was soooo beautiful and raw ❄️ Kai is a magician at this point!
@didierg29
@didierg29 3 месяца назад
”One life, live it”. Thanks for sharing. It was wonderfull.
@Thebluelandy
@Thebluelandy 3 месяца назад
Yiha!!! 💪 Thank you for watching!!
@satishpatel5260
@satishpatel5260 3 месяца назад
BLUE LAND ROVER BEST SAFARIS, ADVENTURES, ARGENTINA 🇦🇷 IS ALL WEATHER, SNOW ,VOLCANO 🌋 BEAUTY IN IN ARGENTINA 🇦🇷, ZIKHOMO ZAMBIA 🇿🇲 AFRICA 🌍,,,
@Thebluelandy
@Thebluelandy 3 месяца назад
🙌🙌🙌🙌
@grahameroberts8109
@grahameroberts8109 3 месяца назад
Some days in that region can seem to be beautifully miserable and other days miserably beautiful. I liked the look of the Blue Landy’s whitewall tyres. Kudos to Kai for his mechanical skill fixing the bearing. Stay safe. 👍🏻🙏🦘
@Thebluelandy
@Thebluelandy 3 месяца назад
Exactly! Some days you just want to hide in your cave and others get outside and lay on the fresh fallen snow!
@liljed18
@liljed18 3 месяца назад
Loving what you‘re doing. From the old beat up truck that requires patience and know-how due to it‘s unique personality, to the commentary and humanity that you add as you navigate through the ebb and flow. Really, it all just makes me jealous and impatient for next year when My family and I will be embarking on a Pan American trip in a 300tdi Defender. As the unwritten disclaimer for owning an old Landy goes : Some experiences may vary. And that is why we love them.
@Thebluelandy
@Thebluelandy 3 месяца назад
The bluelandy is really beaten up. Poor thing, it needs some vacation and workshop love. Knowing this as well makes you more humble and patience. We are at one point in the trip, where we feel a bit the opposite, it's funny. We had such an amount of experiences that it's a bit overwhelming to process it in a proper way. It kind of numbs you a bit. We need to stay longer in a place to be able to enjoy the moment more once we are out again. Never thought we would experience this 🤔
@liljed18
@liljed18 3 месяца назад
I can only imagine. I’m sure that at this point just living this way of life is a full time job complete with overtime. Adding to the difficulties is the fact that you’re away from community that can come together and help with maintenance and repairs so you can take the time to rest and prep for whatever comes next.
@grahames9228
@grahames9228 3 месяца назад
You are very fortunate to have the knowledge and skill to fix just about any problem with the Defender.
@Thebluelandy
@Thebluelandy 3 месяца назад
Thanks Graham! Just remove all nuts you find, try to not break anything. And then try to remember how to put all the bits together again… I also don’t always make it on the first try. I probably pulled the generator apart 6 times. Everytime I think something is broken I disassembled it and checked what’s faulty, and if I can replace it. If I can not I replace the part keep the old as a spare and learned how to disable is and how it works. That gives me the confidence to do it on the road now.
@WilfredWalker-dq6rp
@WilfredWalker-dq6rp 3 месяца назад
Well done Irati, super video especially the drone footage. The snow storm helped of course but you captured it really nicely. Well done Kai for fixing the alternator ! Drive safe and appreciate the privilege of doing what you’re doing. I love watching your videos 👏👏
@Thebluelandy
@Thebluelandy 3 месяца назад
It was spectacular in itself. Like driving on a white canvas. ❄️ Sometimes we forget what we have done and are still doing. Is weird! Thank you for reminding us!
@frank-lr
@frank-lr 3 месяца назад
aaahhh :-) the landscape. At first I thought "oh, team 'dash cactus' looking for a new place to get stuck again" ;-)
@Thebluelandy
@Thebluelandy 3 месяца назад
Haha Frank, you might have found some truth there. If you push the limits you are always in the risk to get stuck but there is a beauty of beeing remote. I rather risk to get stuck then say on a safe camping and don't see anything else.
@eddieflores2852
@eddieflores2852 3 месяца назад
Thats mind blowing!!! Stay blessed.
@Thebluelandy
@Thebluelandy 3 месяца назад
It was INCREDIBLE!! 😱🤯
@michaelsecomb4115
@michaelsecomb4115 3 месяца назад
Lovely story-telling - beautiful.
@Thebluelandy
@Thebluelandy 3 месяца назад
Thank you so much!!
@davelock3166
@davelock3166 3 месяца назад
Great video, Thanks!
@Thebluelandy
@Thebluelandy 3 месяца назад
Thank you for watching and commenting 😎🙌
@henrygreen19
@henrygreen19 3 месяца назад
What landscapes !! Gorgeous.
@Thebluelandy
@Thebluelandy 3 месяца назад
It was absolutely incredible! Felt really like kids the first days of snow ❄️❄️
@jpetermcelroy9390
@jpetermcelroy9390 3 месяца назад
Irati, your videos are so informative, beautiful and professional. In 1998 and 1999, my wife and I drove our restored Series 2A Land Rover from London to Cape Town. It was a 14000 mile trip over 14 months. Your videos of Africa reminded me so much of the wonderful memories of that trip. Thank you so much. Can't wait for your next video adventure.
@Thebluelandy
@Thebluelandy 3 месяца назад
That sounds like an amazing adventure! We were so close to get that blue series 3 in Uganda and travel while the shipping took place. As we were not sure about the ownership of it we decided to don't complicate our lives! Haha so happy to bring back some memories 🤩
@pedroestebanhvozda1428
@pedroestebanhvozda1428 3 месяца назад
Otro video fantastico...!!! Hasta tuvieron la suerte de encontrar una nevada copiosa y retrasada que hizo mas atractivo el viaje... Hermosas las imagenes del drone cuando llegaban a su ultimo campamento... Ver a La Patagonia nevada y desde arriba es algo maravilloso y ustedes tuvieron la enorme fortuna de poder vivenciarlo.... Felicitaciones por el trabajo y buen viaje....!!!!
@Thebluelandy
@Thebluelandy 3 месяца назад
Fue espectacular, realmente llegamos en el mejor momento. Precioso y sin tocar. Disfrutando del sonido al andar sobre nieve recién caída. 10/10. Uno de los momentos más especiales 🤩
@ilonakramm5585
@ilonakramm5585 3 месяца назад
Moin ihr 3. Immer wieder spannend eure Filme zu sehen 😊 ❤ Grüße von Ilona und Michael aus Kambodscha
@Thebluelandy
@Thebluelandy 3 месяца назад
Vielen Dank ihr beiden! Viel Spaß in Kambodscha
@12kerryman
@12kerryman 3 месяца назад
Hi guys, another great video with some wise words to end it.
@Thebluelandy
@Thebluelandy 3 месяца назад
Thank you so much! 🥺🤩
@jonajames4526
@jonajames4526 3 месяца назад
Absolutely stunning !!!
@Thebluelandy
@Thebluelandy 3 месяца назад
It was! We sometimes hit the jackpot 😱❤️
@stevestott1514
@stevestott1514 3 месяца назад
Personally having owened both troopys and defenders . The over all day to year as a useable over landing rig . it has more room is easily to work on and better weight handling ability . AND THE LAND ROVER COMMUNITY IS THE BEST IN THE WORLD . ( but both rigs are awesome over landing rigs .)BUT AGAIN THERE IS JUST SOME THING ABOUT A LAND ROVER THAT SAYS ADVENTURES EVEN WHEN SITING STILL . AND KNOW OTHER RIG DRAWS AS MUCH INTERESTING LOOKS AND QUISTIONS ABOUT WERE YOU HAVE BEEN OR WERE YOUR GOING AS A LANDY WHEN TRAVELING . Thanks again for sharing your wonderful adventuresome videos with us all your over landing friends . Cheers from Steve Stott in Sutherlin Oregon U.S.A. :) :). :) 🌎🍻😁👍🏼
@Thebluelandy
@Thebluelandy 3 месяца назад
Thanks Steve for this wonderful insides!
@stevestott1514
@stevestott1514 3 месяца назад
@@Thebluelandy 😁👍🏼
@fkykas
@fkykas 3 месяца назад
Hah awesome video again. And the snow storm, really a compensation for alternator problems. It also made me think about changing weather patterns, last few weeks in Lithuania were unusually warm, very early spring
@Thebluelandy
@Thebluelandy 3 месяца назад
It was quite a compensation. Beautiful scenery, beautiful day to climb that volcano. Lucky people 😎weather in South America has been crazy due to El Niño. And when this one is over La Niña comes just after. Is going to be weird specially in Australia, but also in Europe! Let's see!
@mikescudder4621
@mikescudder4621 3 месяца назад
Incredible scenes! The El Nino has upset the weather all round South America this year. My region here in Brazil has experienced extremely low rainfall compared to normal, while other regions have experienced floods. Just a sign of things to come.
@Thebluelandy
@Thebluelandy 3 месяца назад
Absolutely crazy weather this year. At the moment is raining tons in the mountains of Peru, and it normally would have stopped in February. We are not going to be able to see much of it die to this!
@mikescudder4621
@mikescudder4621 3 месяца назад
@@ThebluelandyThats a real shame.
@davemangle6448
@davemangle6448 3 месяца назад
I can’t believe that you haven’t ditched that freeloading brother. He needs his own Landy !
@Thebluelandy
@Thebluelandy 3 месяца назад
He has a 4x4 van in Europe and he gets to drive around epic places in the Andes
@magoyo8412
@magoyo8412 3 месяца назад
y al final, salgo a la ruta en gran parte inspirados en ustedes ¡ terminé la preparacion de mi instalacion "camper" en mi Defe, y parte esta Semana Santa a Neuquen y a la zona del Tromen, con mi hijo menor a testear el set-up que le hice y de paso a recorrer la zona y trepar hasta el Tromen. Yo viajo hace rato con ustedes, solo que no me sienten ahi atrás. Saludos ¡
@Thebluelandy
@Thebluelandy 3 месяца назад
Gracias a ti por ver los vídeos y dejarnos este comentario. Nuestra intención es siempre inspirar a que otros salgan a explorar por su cuenta. Nos encantaría que nos dijeras que tal la ruta por la zona del Tromen! Pasarlo muy bien! 😎😎😎😎
@marcnagelmackers7650
@marcnagelmackers7650 3 месяца назад
Magnifique
@Thebluelandy
@Thebluelandy 3 месяца назад
🤗🤗🤗🤗🤗
@davegreenwood1663
@davegreenwood1663 3 месяца назад
I heard that snowstorm claimed 34 lives in Argentina.
@Thebluelandy
@Thebluelandy 3 месяца назад
Wow really! We know that it destroyed a lot of paths and there was work afterwards to repair but didn't know about that! 😢
@bhaz1987
@bhaz1987 3 месяца назад
One thing that's very nice is how you tell where you are Other than true off road tracks such as in Puna, I'm able to find it on a map This is something that helps make your vids different than most Good narration, thanks
@CanadianSledDog
@CanadianSledDog 3 месяца назад
I know how satisfying that is, I use my 4Runner to pack down the early winter snow on local trails and then ride my mtb in the tracks. It's so much fun. Did you get ice in your brakes after this?
@Thebluelandy
@Thebluelandy 3 месяца назад
Incredibly satisfaying! We didnt drive for long and I guess there was no chance to create some. On the way out, we let the car in the sun to get everything melted ❄️
@bhaz1987
@bhaz1987 3 месяца назад
Well done
@Thebluelandy
@Thebluelandy 3 месяца назад
It was soooo beautiful ❤️
@damianorizzi1621
@damianorizzi1621 3 месяца назад
Bravi ragazzi! Momenti straordinari che assolutamente meritate. Buona strada all'equipaggio del Blue Landy!
@Thebluelandy
@Thebluelandy 3 месяца назад
Grazie mille! ci siamo sentiti come bambini nella neve! ❄️
@VIAJANTEDATERRA
@VIAJANTEDATERRA 3 месяца назад
ola meus amigos muito massa esta viajem abraço viva a vida
@Thebluelandy
@Thebluelandy 3 месяца назад
Obrigado 🤗🤗🤗🤗
@WILLYSPAPADELOS4X4
@WILLYSPAPADELOS4X4 3 месяца назад
ESPERO LES GUSTE NUESTRO SUR, SALUDOS DESDE ENTRE RIOS
@Thebluelandy
@Thebluelandy 3 месяца назад
Es increíble!!! 🤩🤩
@Schla-Gulp
@Schla-Gulp 3 месяца назад
Die Landschaft und die Aufnahmen die ihr mit eurer Drohne dazu macht sind unfassbar schön ! Ich persönlich werde mir so eine so tolle Reise niemals leisten können, darum mal an dieser Stelle ein ganz dickes Dankeschön das ihr euch die ganze Mühe mit dem erstellen dieser Videos macht ! 🙏 Was sind das eigentlich für Reifen die ihr habt ? Sind das Reifen die Straße, Sand, Wüste, Matsch und irgendwie alles können ? 👋
@RogerTecumseh
@RogerTecumseh 3 месяца назад
"Sind das Reifen die Straße, Sand, Wüste, Matsch und irgendwie alles können ? " Solche Reifen gibt es nicht. Es gibt nur einige, die bestenfalls von allem etwas können; also immer ein Kompromiss sind. Beispiel: die besten Wüstenreifen, die ich je fuhr waren Michelin XS in 9.00x16. Im Matsch hilflos, auf der trockenen Strasse gerade noch akzeptabel, bei Nässe sehr gefährlich! 😎
@Schla-Gulp
@Schla-Gulp 3 месяца назад
@@RogerTecumseh Mich hat es gewundert wie gut die Reifen bei diesem tiefen Schnee waren.
@RogerTecumseh
@RogerTecumseh 3 месяца назад
Lockeren Neuschnee sollte jeder Marken-MS-Reifen packen. Allgemein: wichtiger als das Profil, ist im Gelände die Konstruktion der Karkasse. Je besser sie "walken" kann, desto besser geht es (besonders bei niedrigem Luftdruck!) voran! (Das war auch so bei den genialen Michelin XS, die ich erwähnte. Nicht umsonst fuhren in der Wüste auch Militär und Schmuggler diesen Reifen....) 😁
@Thebluelandy
@Thebluelandy 3 месяца назад
Hey vielen Dank euch allen! Wir fahren BFG Allterrain, wie zuvor gesagt ist das ein Kompromiss, wir fahren viel Straße daher wollten wir kein zu aggressives Profil aber trotzdem etwas womit man abseits von befestigten starßen noch gut voran kommt. Die all terrain sind gut auf der Straße wo bei bei Regen schon gern mal ein Rad stehen bleibt beim Bremsen. Schotter und Sand meistern sie sehr gut aber im Matsch kommen sie dann schon schnell an ihre Grenzen. Generell stecken die einiges weg 12h waschbrett Piste mit 1,2 bar und 80kmh alles kein Problem. Aber grade in Deutschland find ich sie angenehm weil sie MS haben und damit auch als Winterreifen taugen, in der Rheinebene ohne viel Schnee ist das ein ganz guter Kompromiss. Mittlerweile sind die Reifen ziemlich durch aber das ist ok nach 105k km.
@RogerTecumseh
@RogerTecumseh 3 месяца назад
@@Thebluelandy "Mittlerweile sind die Reifen ziemlich durch aber das ist ok nach 105k km." Hola! Das ist wohl wahr! Falls Ihr dort, wo Ihr nun seid, diese Reifen hier bekommt, dann kann ich sie nach langen Erfahrungen als überzeugenden Kompromiss für fast alle Gelände wirklich empfehlen: TOYO OPEN COUNTRY - MS. Fairer Preis, sehr ruhig auf der Strasse, trotz des MS-Profils, lange Laufleistung, leicht zu wuchten usw.
@user-mj9yu5so6y
@user-mj9yu5so6y 3 месяца назад
Nice video. Thanks. I kind of confuse. This is an old video? You are already in Chile? Best regards.
@Thebluelandy
@Thebluelandy 3 месяца назад
Hey we’re quite behind with videos and Insta, therefore we made end of last year a post sharing our schedule. We are in Lima Peru at the moment
@andrewthacker114
@andrewthacker114 3 месяца назад
An amazing? up in the Andes . The waterfall was amazing. Did you give the dogs any meat 😅How do you keep the Landy warm inside with the engine off. Gas heater ?
@Thebluelandy
@Thebluelandy 3 месяца назад
Hey Andrew thank you! I think the dogs got some fat and ligaments in the end, I’m more in team cat 😂. We have a diesel heater, takes diesel from the main tank, burns it and heats the air of the cabin… works great!
@andrewthacker114
@andrewthacker114 3 месяца назад
@@Thebluelandy thank you for getting back to me, I’m such a softy with animals, I would have given them something. Interesting about the heater, gas heat burning would be dangerous, with fumes. Anyway good you got heat .
@Thebluelandy
@Thebluelandy 3 месяца назад
Yeah the diesel/air heater are great. Those are standard in Europe for caravaning or so. But in the states pretty rare. Check for Webasto airtop, autotherm 2D or similar ones if you are interested. The heater gets fresh air from outside and puts the exhaust gases outside. And they are super small. But still we got an co monitor in the car just in case something goes to wrong
@davidviner5783
@davidviner5783 3 месяца назад
World class photo at 25:00.
@Thebluelandy
@Thebluelandy 3 месяца назад
Epic views 🤩🤩🤩
@bilki100
@bilki100 3 месяца назад
Danke für die Bilder am Ende vom Vulkan! Die Rollen waren aber noch die ersten, oder?
@Thebluelandy
@Thebluelandy 3 месяца назад
Sehr gerne 😊 😉 Rollen?
@bilki100
@bilki100 3 месяца назад
2:09 Die Rollen/Lager vom Rippenriemen 😅
@Thebluelandy
@Thebluelandy 3 месяца назад
@@bilki100 ah ne, steh mit denen auf Kriegsfuß, seit dem mir mal eine 150km hinter der französischen Grenze Freitag nachts um 2 Uhr weg geflogen ist. Musste bis Dienstag waren um ein Lager zu bekommen, repariert in 30 min und weiter ging der wilde Ritt… War mein erster und einziger breakdown. Hab seitdem immer Lager und eine Rolle dabei… bei mir halten die Erfahrungsgemäß 30-80k km obwohl ich gegen SKF getauscht hatte. Hab das Gefühl mit einem etwas längeren Riemen als LR empfiehlt gehts besser 🤫
@user-tt9ms1ov9e
@user-tt9ms1ov9e 3 месяца назад
Hi I miss your why you Lat
@Thebluelandy
@Thebluelandy 3 месяца назад
Hey! A mix of too much to do and too much fun. Meaning no time to seat down and work concentrated on the videos.
@mikescudder4621
@mikescudder4621 3 месяца назад
@@ThebluelandyWho wants to be behind a computer with scenery like that!
@jensstrang1501
@jensstrang1501 3 месяца назад
Moin zusammen, einen Diesel Heater hast du nicht eingebaut? Gruß Jens
@Thebluelandy
@Thebluelandy 3 месяца назад
Hey Jens, doch wir haben eine Autotherm 2D also eine Luft-Standheizung eine Wasserstandheizung haben wir nicht.
@shawkubaska2891
@shawkubaska2891 2 месяца назад
"PromoSM" 😒
@Thebluelandy
@Thebluelandy Месяц назад
What do you mean?!
@steveblount4552
@steveblount4552 3 месяца назад
I'm going to Mars..2045....think your husband could go I we break down out there ?
@Thebluelandy
@Thebluelandy 3 месяца назад
I think if you call him he will be able to assist you remotely 100% 🤣
@comedefleurieu315
@comedefleurieu315 3 месяца назад
The defender is the worst car for this kind of trip: noisy, badly sealed , poor cabin space, bad heat/air conditioning, uncomfortable, poor off-road capability if you don't have the lockers as there are only proposed as options and only for the rear (no option for the front, how is it possible for the utility vehicle of a brand?! ) Goodluck
@RogerTecumseh
@RogerTecumseh 3 месяца назад
The Defender is a 4x4 permanent! This means that it has a lock in the distributor gearbox (reduction) as standard! But well, you're replacing knowledge with opinion and that's not illegal. (But: "The rest is silence....") 🙄
@comedefleurieu315
@comedefleurieu315 3 месяца назад
@@RogerTecumseh central diff lock gives 2 true 2 wheel drives.... you seems pissed off why? Just learn how a 4x4 works
@RogerTecumseh
@RogerTecumseh 3 месяца назад
@@comedefleurieu315 "the lockers.... and only for the rear (no option for the front, how is it possible for the utility vehicle of a brand?! )" Go to sleep! 😴 But before that, just some information for you: my lock in the front axle of the Defender has been working very well for 30 years now, even though I rarely need it.
@comedefleurieu315
@comedefleurieu315 3 месяца назад
@@RogerTecumseh why go to sleep? Can you explain? Who has fitted you front lock?
@RogerTecumseh
@RogerTecumseh 3 месяца назад
@@comedefleurieu315 There are several manufacturers. My lock comes from Australia (ARB). Any good 4X4 workshop worldwide can fit them. And once again as an extra service (because you are obviously a real 4X4-specialist 😄 ): the original front differential only has two satellites. The lock-differential has four and is therefore more stable.
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