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Belle Has Stockholm Syndrome? | Beauty and the Beast Theory: Discovering Disney 

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@carissacarlson1418
@carissacarlson1418 7 лет назад
I agree; Belle doesn't have Stockholm Syndrome in the movie. She disagrees with him and only starts to fall in love when he starts acting nice to her. Not to mention she left the castle twice, only going back because it was the right thing to do.
@IsaacCarlson
@IsaacCarlson 7 лет назад
I'm glad you think so as well! Thanks for watching!
@adrianghandtchi1562
@adrianghandtchi1562 7 лет назад
Carissa Carlson a
@susanbones3381
@susanbones3381 6 лет назад
And she actually gets to know her prince before falling in love with him.
@cioramirez3376
@cioramirez3376 5 лет назад
As a recovering victim of Stockholm syndrome(CPTSD), I agree. Belle doesn't have Stockholm syndrome, she's found a true love in the understanding she doesn't have to conform to society, and has someone to journey through that with her.
@julieshez387
@julieshez387 4 года назад
@@cioramirez3376 yep exactly.
@drmarythefae3714
@drmarythefae3714 7 лет назад
belle is truly a strong woman that made her own decisions. and omg the ending of the video when you said "It is a tale as old as time depicting how two rejected people could accept the reasons others banish them and fall in love" beautifully summarized thank you
@IsaacCarlson
@IsaacCarlson 7 лет назад
My pleasure! I'm happy you enjoyed the video and the message I had to share. Thanks for watching!
@itsyazmin1337
@itsyazmin1337 7 лет назад
Levy Redfox yeah true true
@myfallengrace1958
@myfallengrace1958 7 лет назад
Levy Redfox Beautiful
@henzcarltupastupas6751
@henzcarltupastupas6751 4 года назад
God's angels are guiding her 🙏
@spidey2430
@spidey2430 2 года назад
@@IsaacCarlson hey Isaac who’s your favorite princess
@amandapike2477
@amandapike2477 7 лет назад
Thank you so much for this. People repeat the damn Stockholm Syndrome thing so often that when a psychology panel determined that the only Disney characters to show actual signs of Stockholm Syndrome were Quasimodo (Hunchback of NotreDame) and Rapunzel (Tangled) there were immediately comments insisting that Belle HAD to have it and "Rapunzel can't have it. She thought Gothel was her mother." Making it clear they had no idea what the syndrome actually entails.
@IsaacCarlson
@IsaacCarlson 7 лет назад
My pleasure! I'm happy I could make the video. That's so true about Quasi and Rapunzel. Thanks for watching!
@emberguard5009
@emberguard5009 6 лет назад
yeah, Rapunsel is debatable simply because she doesn't know she's a prisoner. She just thinks she has a over protective mother. But definitely Belle doesn't have it. She has gratitude sure, so does the beast. But it wasn't stockholm syndrome.
@uberkirbeeh7954
@uberkirbeeh7954 7 лет назад
Finally, someone stands up against that theory.
@IsaacCarlson
@IsaacCarlson 7 лет назад
I was truly just frustrated with the amount of negative ideas swirling around this movie and wanted to bring my perspective to why I think it's a great love story. I never thought of any of these negative themes until I was told them. Thanks for watching!
@bribarius5197
@bribarius5197 7 лет назад
I know right
@DJFlare84
@DJFlare84 7 лет назад
Goddamn thank you so much dude it really is ridiculous the lengths some people would go to portray this movie in a negative light. I mean... I like the movie. It's not like my super favorite of all time. But the argument that Stockholm Syndrome was involved just felt... insulting to me for the longest time. I think it's because I always recalled Belle as a strong character and accusing her of having Stockholm Syndrome is a slap in the face to that. She could've left Beast in the snow to die. Her own father urged her to go home and not take his place. She did an ENORMOUSLY HEROIC THING there. She TAMED THE BEAST. The beast didn't change her, she changed HIM. Belle is a much stronger character than these Stockholm Syndrome fanatics take her for. Accusing Belle of having it is unforgivably accusing her of having no will of her own, when she clearly exercised her will whenever and however she pleased.
@amandapike2477
@amandapike2477 7 лет назад
The Stockholm Syndrome thing didn't even start as a Theory, it was a joke in the 90s that people who don't know anything about psychology took too seriously.
@alexandracouto4251
@alexandracouto4251 7 лет назад
True, I always used it as a joke and I didn't realized until now that people really thought seriously about that. Yes she falls in love for her captor but all the rest is out of order. The message is clear: don't judge a book for its cover because is what's on the inside that counts (even that in the beginning you don't like so much, like Lord of the Ring ahah).
@HerosMuse
@HerosMuse 7 лет назад
there are two cases of Stockholm Syndrome in the Disney line up but beauty and the beast is not one of them. They are Quasimodo in the hunchback of Notre Dam with Count Frollo and Rapunzel with Mother Gothel neither of which are portrayed in a positive light.
@IsaacCarlson
@IsaacCarlson 7 лет назад
Totally agree. That would be a great video on its own. Thanks for watching!
@OrtegaSeason
@OrtegaSeason 7 лет назад
Wrong. Quasimodo and Rapunzel see the person controlling them as a parental figure who raised them, and they never considered themselves prisoners to begin with. In contrast Beast is a complete stranger to Belle, and SHE DOES consider herself a prisoner. Belle absolutely meets the criteria for Stockholm syndrome, Quasimodo and Rapunzel don't.
@terran236
@terran236 7 лет назад
wrong. belle doesnt fit Stockholm Syndrome because Stockholm syndrome is more than likely a lie. The people just went along with what the robbers said so they wouldn't die. Beast saved her and let her go free. Thats not Stockholm syndrome. not to mention belle was never truly afraid of beast.
@OrtegaSeason
@OrtegaSeason 7 лет назад
"Beast saved her and let her go free. Thats not Stockholm syndrome." - How so? The only criteria is that someone develops an emotional attachment to someone holding them prisoner. "not to mention belle was never truly afraid of beast." - She literally says, "If you hadn't frightened me I wouldn't have run away".
@daniellemusella1594
@daniellemusella1594 7 лет назад
It's ironic you say that. I've seen a "Tangled" tribute video, using the song "Out There". The parallels are SPOOKY.
@xgray2012
@xgray2012 7 лет назад
I mean, really?! People think that this movie is about Stockholm Syndrome? Yet, when they look at the Joker and Harley Quinn's relationship....they think it's true love?! Hypocrisy, much?!
@savannahhague7412
@savannahhague7412 4 года назад
Ikr. Like Harley has Stockholm, not Belle.
@danybey4182
@danybey4182 4 года назад
Harley is in a emotionally and physically abusive but its not Stockholm Syndrome
@dgurlie-0273
@dgurlie-0273 3 года назад
Belle sure as heck does NOT have Stockholm syndrome. That is a stupid argument for stupid people who want to push an agenda. I don’t even want to try to understand those people because to them Beauty and the Beast is not ok, yet there is such thing as a “best selling” novel called 50 Shades with a whole freaking underground fetish to go with it🤮 What exactly is the message of 50 Shades of Gray anyway? I don’t even want to know. I better hear the same argument in that story because Belle is 💯 times the woman that freaky perverted girl ever could be.
@sotakovatereza352
@sotakovatereza352 3 года назад
@@savannahhague7412 She doesn't have it either. She had fallen in love with the Joker when she was his psychiatrist and then willingly left with him. Harley is a victom of abuse. She loved him and it is a sad truth that people in abusive relationships often have a hard time to leave their partners.
@Femmeaesthetic
@Femmeaesthetic 2 года назад
I mean in some aspects Harley is mental but I still her character
@WouldntWeather
@WouldntWeather 7 лет назад
While it's understandable where the idea comes from, the movie being about Stockholm Syndrome is ultimately inaccurate. Stockholm Syndrome is when a captive feels positive emotions for their captor because they mistake a lack of abusive behavior for kindness, however while Belle agrees to stay with the Beast (a choice that was made by herself in the first place, not by her father or the Beast), she constantly stands up to the Beast and defies his threats and punishments when he treats her badly, therefore not allowing him any power over her beyond being able to keep her in the same general location. She doesn't show him any affection until he finally stops acting like a jerk (he doesn't display any abusive behavior after she saves his life) and starts consistently treating her with respect. And it is only after the Beast frees Belle, making them complete equals with no power imbalance at all in their relationship that she's able to finally fall in love with him. It's also clear that while the Beast had an outside motivation to make Belle like him and to change his behavior, the changes in his character are genuine as seen in his act of mercy in sparing Gaston's life in the climax of the film. Additionally, the idea that the story is about Stockholm Syndrome ignores the fact that the original fairy tale it was based off of was meant to be an allegory for arranged marriages and for the apprehension and fear a young bride would feel about starting a new life with a strange man she might not like at first.
@taylorwarden205
@taylorwarden205 7 лет назад
mannystella I did not know that it was an allagory for that. That makes since though.
@lmao111yearsago9
@lmao111yearsago9 6 лет назад
Nice
@kaylalarson838
@kaylalarson838 6 лет назад
I’m glad you recognize that she wasn’t kidnapped. She went there by and stayed by choice. Stockholm generally applies to those that are kidnapped.
@HoneyR0astedPeanut
@HoneyR0astedPeanut 6 лет назад
You can see Stockholm Syndrome in Rapunzel and Mother Gothel. Rapunzel believes that mother Gothel loves her and uses her hair to stay with her as long as possible. While in reality Gothel only loves the hair. When Rapunzel isn’t allowed to leave the tower she thinks that Gothel is only trying to protect her. And when Gothel threatens to kill Flynn, this is when she finally sees her true motives.
@rosietude1545
@rosietude1545 5 лет назад
When I read Gaston I thought it said Gaster ... ... ... ... ... do you like Undertale?
@gabesplace8410
@gabesplace8410 7 лет назад
I think that Disney just wanted tk show us that appearance doesn't matter, is what's on the inside that counts
@peggyknecht3326
@peggyknecht3326 7 лет назад
GabrielGaldo I agree. She learns to see past his looks.
@OrtegaSeason
@OrtegaSeason 7 лет назад
If the film is trying to teach that appearances don't matter then why is the fact that Belle is smoking hot emphasised throughout, including in the title.
@rosecoloredbby
@rosecoloredbby 7 лет назад
DeCipher It's emphasized that she's beautiful,not "smoking hot". And beauty doesn't just have to be about her appearance.It could also be referring to her good nature and kind heart and sweet attitude.
@Sammyyaam
@Sammyyaam 7 лет назад
trulylashton they did that in the movie Beastly
@rosecoloredbby
@rosecoloredbby 7 лет назад
trulylashton this is off topic but,I love your name!
@julianaboor7971
@julianaboor7971 6 лет назад
I think that the "theory" of Bell having Stockholm Syndrome is just ridiculous, and was created as just another case of people wanting to find controversy in a movie, story, show, etc when there never was any to begin with; basically just making things up via social media for attention. I love this movie and its one of my personal favorites among the Disney movies; I think that the moral of this story (the movie) is that you shouldn't judge a person solely on appearances or before you get the chance to know them as a person, etc, and I personally think that, that is a great moral message for kids.
@melodytunes8406
@melodytunes8406 7 лет назад
I think she knew the beast was possibly a cursed human because based on theory about the blue book she was reading, it was apparently based on herself but i think it wasnt, rather that it was just based on a fairytale similar to belle.A talking animal already seems abnormal, and at somepoint the beast becomes nice to her and belle being a smart girl, she probably started putting all the pieces together and analyzing the entire situation in comparison to her book she was reading.Remember how in the beginning of the movie she sings" This is my favorite part because you'll see, here's where she meets prince charming".Looking at all those details closely, i think belle came to the conclusion that the beast was a cursed prince and therefore willing to look past his physical appearances and to fall in love with him, otherwise why would she want to fall in love with an animal? I mean why on Earth would a talking animal who has the eyes of a human, stands on its two hind legs, would live in a CASTLE.If I were belle I would start suspecting something.
@jadegrimm25
@jadegrimm25 5 лет назад
Melody Tunes she also found the rose and pressed heavy for the truth but didn’t act like she did assume but found out when she actually show the rose.
@abiflach2062
@abiflach2062 7 лет назад
i agree, beauty and the beast is a message showing don't judge people by their appearance, e.g. Gaston is portrayed as a very masculine and muscle-ripped man but his personality is egotistical, vain, arrogant and sexist.
@fernandomagana6928
@fernandomagana6928 7 лет назад
Thank you so much for being against that theory because Beauty and the Beast is a beautiful movie
@IsaacCarlson
@IsaacCarlson 7 лет назад
My pleasure! I think it's a wonderful film; it's one of my favorites! Thanks for watching!
@ZimVader-0017
@ZimVader-0017 6 лет назад
Supposedly, around the time the original french novel was written, the Beast character was based on a real life person who had hypertrichosis and his wife. The only person that fits the bill is the infamous Petrus Gonsalvuz of Tenerife, who was part of the king of France's court in 1547, which is near the dates when the story takes place. It is said that neither he or his seven children (who inherited the condition) were seen as humans, rather as "beasts", his wife Lady Catherine being the "Belle" in this case. It has happened before, for example Frankenstein really did exist, except that he wasn't a mad scientist making a person out of corpses, he was just your average medical student researching the time's new science fad.
@NinjaGirlSakura1
@NinjaGirlSakura1 7 лет назад
I always thought the message of beauty and the beast was"beauty is in the eye of the beholder".
@MrAlman8
@MrAlman8 7 лет назад
FINALLY!!! Someone has Debunked this cynical view of Beauty and the Beast. A THOUSAND PRAISES TO YOU Wotso Videos.
@missscarlett186
@missscarlett186 7 лет назад
Thank you for making this video. I love it! I think because a lot of people in the world are confused about what real love is, that they look at this movie and just think that its not real love, that their relationship is based on forced emotions. Of course this movie is a fairy tale, but this story actually depicts that, not only have they taken the time to know each other and respect each other, but also that their love was platonic, that they didnt need to "prove" that they "love" each other by taking things too physical too fast.
@IsaacCarlson
@IsaacCarlson 7 лет назад
I'm happy you enjoyed it! Thanks for watching!
@shadow4you
@shadow4you 5 лет назад
Very convincing video. I never really saw Beauty and the Beast as a movie with theories of Stockholm Syndrome, even watching the movie so many times. The only message I got was that you should love and appreciate a person for their inner beauty, even with flaws.
@moondoor9031
@moondoor9031 7 лет назад
I never believed in the theory of Belle and the Stockholm theory... Never.
@chrissyr8387
@chrissyr8387 6 лет назад
Honestly I find that the whole stock home syndrome theory underminds the moral of the story. At the end of Beauty and the Beast we are supposed to learn two things.1: that everyone deserves to be loved even a beast.2: in order to love others we must first love ourselves. By saying that Belle has stock home syndrome we take away that message by invalidating Belle's love for the beast. We also take away from beast's figurative transformation into the man he was meant to be by saying that he is just a captor undeserving of love.
@katsa5
@katsa5 7 лет назад
I am very grateful for your video. When I was in a course for Abnormal Psychology, I had read the DSM-5 requirements for Stockholm Syndrome. It's a reshaping of behavior through constant, negative stimuli. This is not present. When I researched this theory, my experiences have yielded sources that not only mislabel this syndrome, but would also label "multiple personality" (it's DID; there's a red flag already) and schizophrenia as the same thing. While a very few symptoms may be similar, that statement is nonetheless horribly inaccurate. My personal theory; believers of this theory have fallen into the Story's Trap. The believers see the beast as a constantly harmful threat; he is such a terrible animal after all. That limited view never changes. Even as 'a gentleman', such viewers can't see past the threatening past actions or present appearance. However, Belle does. On a final note, there's already a good example of Stockholm Syndrome. Harlee Quinn. Compare Belle to Harley Quinn and the differences become perfectly clear.
@Beautifulstar24
@Beautifulstar24 7 лет назад
I thought it was a tale about how love can truly change someone and growing from selfishness to selflessness can change someone's heart. It also is a tale of two misunderstood people coming together. I watched the live version today and I thought it was a great film.
@gamesgurl7424
@gamesgurl7424 7 лет назад
Thank you for this video. I totally agree with you in thinking that the true story of beauty and the beast is a story of love between two outsiders. No way disney would go so dark as to write a storyabout stockholme syndrome! Love that movie too.
@rbrtck
@rbrtck 7 лет назад
Nice and very thorough analysis. :) The way I look at this is that they were both prisoners in their own ways, which gave them something in common, and both learned to accept and ultimately love each other despite being different from each other and others around them. When the Beast gave Belle his library, for example, the point wasn't that her affections could be bought by material gifts, it was that he accepted her quirky love of books, and in this way he sort of set her free already just by being someone (near her age) who accepted her. And then when Belle saw how he tried in earnest to eat in a "civilized" manner but struggled physically, she appreciated this and compromised (sipping directly from the bowl) so that they could both eat neatly in the same way. These are two important elements of relationships, and the third would be love, which the Beast demonstrated to Belle by letting her go with no strings attached whatsoever (and Belle never said that she would return)--this was a selfless sacrifice on his part, and given the reactions of most of the other characters, it was a lesson in the true meaning of love, which I think is another important theme of the movie. Back to Stockholm Syndrome, while it's good that you knocked down all of the minor points as well, it all boils down to the fact that Belle did not adopt the Beast's initial views or ways of thinking out of fear (or for any other reason--she simply did not), and she never accepted his bad behavior. Rather, he was the one who changed his whole perspective when he realized that he cared about her. This is all about acceptance and love, not Stockholm Syndrome in the least, as you proved.
@jish55
@jish55 3 года назад
If Belle had Stockholme syndrome, she'd 1) not argue with the beast, 2) not run away the first time, 3) not disobey him, and 4) Not leave afterwards.
@nobodyuknow6337
@nobodyuknow6337 5 лет назад
As for her falling in love with an Animal. I think the entire thing was that she started seeing a human being behind the beast. His eyes are still those of a man and soften and show more compassion as he falls in love with her.
@arrow3000
@arrow3000 7 лет назад
thank you thank you thank you so much for clearing this up! All of my life I have seen Belle as a strong, independent woman, and someone I idolized. But when the Stockholm Syndrome people came, I was so confused. watching video has made me idolize Belle once again and I can watch the movie and remember that it is what's on the inside that counts.
@IsaacCarlson
@IsaacCarlson 7 лет назад
My pleasure! I'm glad I was able to show how awesome Belle is! Thanks for watching!
@jessiecollins8784
@jessiecollins8784 5 лет назад
This video makes a lot of sense! I never saw it as Stockholm Syndrome. The first time I saw a comment about it in a video, I didn't even know what Stockholm Syndrome was at the time.
@kellbellsparkles
@kellbellsparkles 4 года назад
To be fair to the beast, he did let her go to save her father, presumably dashing his hopes of becoming human again, because he loved her truly
@alfiemuthama3009
@alfiemuthama3009 4 года назад
I agree with your conclusion that Belle does not have Stockholm. This is my favorite book/Disney movie ever.
@KlutzyNinjaKitty
@KlutzyNinjaKitty 6 лет назад
Quasimodo and Rapunzel are both ACTUAL examples of Stockholm syndrome. Both are excluded from society, live with their captors and are abused emotionally, both are told that they couldn't live away from their captors, and both empathize with their captors until they're brought out of their abusive environment and realize that their relationship wasn't right.
@Mira_Dunia
@Mira_Dunia 7 лет назад
Notice that Belle is okay with leaving the beast when he lets her go, and goes back to him because HIS life is in danger and she doesn't want him to die because she loves him.
@Raage.
@Raage. 5 лет назад
The actual message is That Beauty which is on the Inside is more important and that's all you need to know.
@alastorcipher7647
@alastorcipher7647 6 лет назад
I have never thought that Belle had Salkholm Syndrom, she dosent exhibit the symptoms. And the most important price of wvudance she voluntarily made herself a prisoner for her father. She wasn't taken captive, that makes all the difference. She had very little dear as she planed to escape, and was activly definant.
@adrienalice1568
@adrienalice1568 7 лет назад
i hate that it has to be explained for some people to understand. because they always see the negative side of everything.
@LittleLehStar
@LittleLehStar 7 лет назад
THANK YOU SO MUCH!!!!
@IsaacCarlson
@IsaacCarlson 7 лет назад
My pleasure! Thank you for the nice compliment. Thanks for watching!
@maryledenican7760
@maryledenican7760 4 года назад
It's makes it a little different because Belle chose to be there rather then being kidnapped to be put in that situation... I know she's still forced to stay, but she made the choice rather then being forced into it...
@magzr5497
@magzr5497 6 лет назад
This film was the first one I watched as a child so I'm glad you made this video x
@Emodnet
@Emodnet 7 лет назад
beauty and the beast is my fave fairytale and it's really annoying when people assume belle has Stockholm syndrome. So thank you for putting this argument is a much better way than I ever could to explain to people that it's not so
@alyssagross5360
@alyssagross5360 6 лет назад
And yes, I've seen the movie many times so it is possibly TRUE that Belle Actually DOES have Stockholm Syndrome, yet she wasn't kidnapped she was imprisoned but they are the same thing *BUT*, she did it to save her father.
@SorryIcantIhavebookclub
@SorryIcantIhavebookclub 7 лет назад
Stockholm syndrome is NOT about falling in love with your captor but about empathy.
@wittykitty8846
@wittykitty8846 7 лет назад
Isaac is so right, Disney did not mean to portray that Belle had Stockholm's Syndrome, they just wanted to teach us all that love is blind.
@IsaacCarlson
@IsaacCarlson 7 лет назад
Exactly! Another great way of putting it. Thanks for watching!
@purlple_you7132
@purlple_you7132 6 лет назад
This is my favorite Disney movie and it's a classic I thank you for disproving this theory
@laylahawkins4873
@laylahawkins4873 5 лет назад
Whenever I watched the movie, I can see why people think Belle has Stockholm Syndrome, but at a young age, I believed the message was looks means nothing compared to the heart. For example, Gaston did like Belle but only her looks than her personality. Belle didn't fall for Gaston's looks as the women in the movie did. For the beast, he admitted she was beautiful but to me it seemed like he found her annoying because she was not cooperating with him. I don't think he fell her until some time after Belle treated his wounds. When Belle was attacked by wolves, now I think of it, I think Beast went after her to apologize or he knew the dangers in the woods during that time. Belle did fall for him when he was more kind to her
@xxo5294
@xxo5294 7 лет назад
She was not captured, she voluntarily became his prisoner, she never lost herself and actively defied him and she did not chose to stay when he released her so I would say no she doesn't
@avisperspective6145
@avisperspective6145 6 лет назад
Yes, my favorite princesses are Belle for her love of books and looking beneath the surface, Mulan for her love of family and ability to love herself and Cinderella for her endurance against abuse and strong hope for a better life. Thank you for making this video, now I'm certain that one of my top three isn't a victim of Stockholm syndrome.
@anthonychristy1976
@anthonychristy1976 7 лет назад
Belle is one my heroes the story is beautiful and was ahead of its time 😃
@DinoGoofHybridHero7531
@DinoGoofHybridHero7531 7 лет назад
I thought I was the only one that thought Bell didn't have Stockholm syndrome! also, I think the lesson of Beauty and the Beast was you can't judge a book by it's cover, cause there's always more to a person (or in this case a Beast) then it seems, you just have to get to know them :3
@IsaacCarlson
@IsaacCarlson 7 лет назад
You definitely are not! I never liked the idea of it. Thanks for watching!
@DinoGoofHybridHero7531
@DinoGoofHybridHero7531 7 лет назад
Wotso Videos no problem, it was a good video ^^
@Sighbot
@Sighbot 7 лет назад
Finally! A response to this accursed conspiracy! This movie was made during a time where things where pretty simple. The love in Disney's movie had a straightforward meaning, looks and first impressions don't always say everything about a person.
@summermoore8901
@summermoore8901 7 лет назад
Also the entrancess said that the beast had to learn to love and be loved in return. I don't think that if it was Stockholm syndrome the spell would have broke.
@swayama2050
@swayama2050 5 лет назад
This is the best analysis i have seen of the story
@Lamplighter888
@Lamplighter888 7 лет назад
I think this story has a lot to teach us but it is to be received carefully. The problem is that the story could inspire young woman to chase after rude, uncaring and selfish men to change them (which happens a lot). However, it does teach us that change is possible and as stated in the video, two outcast people can accept their differences and work together. The great thing about this movie is that the beast really does change. I actually feel it is a more believable transformation than the one in Tangled, which nobody seems to be bothered about. Tangled is actually a more severe example of a girl trying to change a guy to being good. In this movie, the beast is clearly a troubled person but clearly determined to change. When someone is on the path to transformation when you meet them, it's very different from someone who doesn't want to change. The Beast was looking forward to finding a person he could learn to love. He wanted to learn to love and he was very interested in genuine change. By the end of the movie, is is clear from his actions that it's not about getting Belle anymore. It's about doing what is best for her. His reactions when attacked by Gaston show he is now a different kind of person. He has changed from the inside out. So, I think the solution is for parents to explain to their children that you can't change someone unless they really want to change.
@devilovesdevil
@devilovesdevil 7 лет назад
i heard the story was made way back when from when a true beauty fell in love with a man with a disease that caused him to grow so much hair all over he resembled a beast and at first he frightened her but she came to care for him and they married.
@SpringThatTrap
@SpringThatTrap 7 лет назад
Someone finally said it.
@charliespratt4763
@charliespratt4763 7 лет назад
The point is belle loves him because she she sees him from the loving person he is in side
@Tu_papi_chulo37
@Tu_papi_chulo37 7 лет назад
belles and the beast relationship was only kind of rough in the begging but for the middle and end in the movie they are good to one another after the beast got attacked by wolves they were able to get along and he's wasn't mean at all THEY WERE GOOD ITS WAS LIKE THE FIRST TWO DAYS THEY WERE BAD THE REST WAS GOOD
@thenarnianhufflepuff6077
@thenarnianhufflepuff6077 5 лет назад
Belle is one of my favorite Disney Princesses
@oliviarosman1359
@oliviarosman1359 7 лет назад
She agreed to stay with him later making her a willing inhabitant of the castle not a prisoner
@milacruz3970
@milacruz3970 7 лет назад
Yes! Thank you! People overthink these movies and it's just silly, they miss the obvious message of the story.
@IsaacCarlson
@IsaacCarlson 7 лет назад
I agree. I just always saw it as such a good message so I just needed to share why I thought the allegations were false. Thanks for watching!
@rubysmolen5155
@rubysmolen5155 2 года назад
suggestion for video- Timons backstory
@jm2967
@jm2967 7 лет назад
wait but wasn't the beasts story about needing to change? he wouldn't have gotten his happily ever after if he stayed the same
@gamerofedge8111
@gamerofedge8111 5 лет назад
"Click the BELLE" I'm gonna leave before people throw tomatos at me...
@JT5555
@JT5555 7 лет назад
It Pisses Me Off To No End When People Say Belle Has Stockholm-I'm Glad This Was About How She Was'int.
@annaberry6292
@annaberry6292 7 лет назад
No. I think that the meaning is to not change who you are, but to stay the same person you are.
@clintongillespie9895
@clintongillespie9895 6 лет назад
If BELL WAS a true prisoner beast would have keeped her in the tower.
@gaurikaushalya8349
@gaurikaushalya8349 4 года назад
Isaac: *debunks Stockholm syndrome theory* Me: *cries* finally...
@monabohamad2242
@monabohamad2242 4 года назад
OH Ikr
@leeeubanks368
@leeeubanks368 6 лет назад
Belle and the beast r definitely in love with each other cuz they both know what it's like 2 b considered outcasts so they understand each other
@greywolf221121
@greywolf221121 7 лет назад
Nicely argued. Will you do a companion video about the Beast and Lima Syndrome?
@sabreize3164
@sabreize3164 6 лет назад
I agree with you :-) Bell is a strong character, and she could have let him die a bunch. They fell in love :-) they are happy. leave them alone :)
@IsaacCarlson
@IsaacCarlson 6 лет назад
Agreed! They are awesome together and it makes sense within their story. Thanks for watching!
@chrisbeamish6556
@chrisbeamish6556 7 лет назад
do a video on how old the prince was when he became the beast
@froggojogo3289
@froggojogo3289 7 лет назад
Well he is 21 near the end and Lumiere says they have been like that for 10 years. So he is 11. However his curse was to age as a Beast without anyone to love, the others was to just become a household object but they didn't age. That explains why chip is still young.
@IsaacCarlson
@IsaacCarlson 7 лет назад
I've already got you covered. Check out my video on the Beast's age here: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-LgMV9FmRy2A.html Thanks for watching!
@EB1493
@EB1493 3 года назад
These are the same people that accuse Belle of having Stockholm syndrome which has been debunked several times. Gaston, is and has always been a pigheaded chauvinistic jock from the moment we are first introduced to him. He never considers Belle's ideas, thoughts or opinions, nor does he respect her as an individual. He feels entitled to have Belle, no matter what the cost. The Beast/Prince Adam on the other hand, although he started out as anti-social, gruff and spoiled.....when you really look at him deep down he is a guy that just wanted to be loved but yet he had never been taught how to love. I'll name a couple of examples: 1. On the night that the Beast met Belle, he was moved a little by Belle's sacrificial love for her father when she VOLUNTARILY traded places with him for his safety. Some claim that the Beast abducted her, which he did NOT.... *I'm looking at you Pop Culture Detective* 2. The Beast gave Belle free reign of the castle except the West Wing. Most captors don't actually do that....they confined their victims to one space. Plus, he kept to himself 90% of the time and stood out of her way prior to the wolf attack. 3. Belle openly defies him and doesn't give him an inch....he throws a childish fit and then goes to his room to sulk....like a kid who can't have his way. It begins to dawn on him the reminder of his toxic behavior. 4. He goes out of his way to protect Belle, even at the cost of his own life. Most captors can give a damn about the well being and safety of their victims and just continue to hold them against their will and God knows what else. 5. Another thing that I'm happy to point out is that the Beast NEVER says one sexist thing to Belle, it goes to show you while his initial behavior was toxic their wasn't a hint of sexism in his speech or manner, for instance, he never looks down on Belle for reading. That was something that Gaston and the whole village did with Belle. 6. As far as Stockholm syndrome goes, Belle starts to warm up to the Beast after he corrects his own behavior and starts to behave like a gentleman, and they strike up a beautiful friendship that blossoms into deep love. 7. The Beast never physically hurts Belle. Never struck nor beat her. Gaston on the other hand, while he may not have struck her, he did lock her in a cellar to keep her from getting to the Beast. 8. And the final point, the Beast out of selfless love lets Belle go upon learning that her father is sick, even if that meant that he would never be human again. He was willing to accept long term consequences for his past behavior, plus that he finally learned to love. You know the old saying, "If you love someone, set them free...." and he did just that. This was a lesson Gaston refused to accept or learn. Through Belle's kindness and understanding, he begins to see for himself, the error of his ways and starts making positive changes to his life and starts acting like a gentlemen not just for himself but for all around him, especially Belle. He does start to consider her thoughts and opinions and begins to cherish her as an individual. That was something Gaston never did. As mentioned before, to him, she was a trophy/prize and property.....nothing more, simply, less than human. In the end, Belle made the right choice because she realized how much she has grown as an individual and that she has genuinely learned to love the Beast. Thus when he was at Death's door, she confessed her love for him. The Beast saw Belle as an individual with dreams and a yearning for adventure and freedom.....much like himself. Gaston saw Belle as a prize, a creature to be tamed and tied down. To him, she was never allowed to think for herself but he does all the thinking for her. So the next time you want to accuse a fictional character like Belle of having Stockholm syndrome, look at the example of the Joker and Harley Quinn. Unlike the Beast, Joker doesn't treat Harley with respect, he uses her as a means to an end. He physically abused Harley, in one instance, throwing her out of a window nearly killing her. Despite that, she keeps crawling back to him in high yet delusional hopes that he would love her back. This is where Joker plays upon her weaknesses and exploits them to get what he wants. He also plays mind games with her too. Yet they are seen as relationship goals for a lot of people because abusive couples are glorified because of them being interesting. They say the crazy ones make the best partners. They may be exciting in the beginning but in the long run that gets old. Belle and the Beast are an example of relationship goals while Joker and Harley are not. And with that, ladies and gentlemen, I get off of my soapbox and rest my case.
@kimberlylippington5648
@kimberlylippington5648 5 лет назад
After watching the new version of beauty and the beast hearing the old one sing was so weird.
@princedonovaughn1182
@princedonovaughn1182 7 лет назад
Thank you for this! I really hate when people say that about this movie.
@IsaacCarlson
@IsaacCarlson 7 лет назад
My pleasure! I felt I should really spread this. Thanks for watching!
@Fantasygirl2001
@Fantasygirl2001 7 лет назад
while I agree with the fact that Disney's beauty and the Beast is truly about love rather than what a lot people thought it was really about you have to look further into the actual original story of Beauty and the Beast there are several other versions of that tale and most people would say that those other versions might be contain a type of Stockholm syndrome you see in the original non Disney story of Beauty and the beast Beauty or Belle if you want to keep using Disney's name for the main female character had sisters was from a wealthy family all of whom were well educated but what set Beauty apart was that unlike her sisters she didn't desire really majorly material possessions the simple things were what made her happiest when their father went on a business trip to help increase their wealth while her sisters all asked for flashy and expensive stuff like gowns and diamonds and the like all Beauty asked for a a single rose. which is how she ended up with the beast in the original story the business deal that the father had been hoping have help keep his family from the poor house fell through and so he couldn't grant his other three daughters requests and then the father came upon the beast's castle and Beauty's father was actually welcomed and cared for by the beast and before the father was going to leave the castle he wandered into the beast's garden which was still blooming and flowering even though outside the castle walls it was bitter winter and the father requested of the beast to allow him to take a rose from his garden so he could at least make beauty's wish come true and the beast permitted it but made it a requirement that Beauty must willingly submit to being his prisoner in exchange.
@jarrenstarkey8541
@jarrenstarkey8541 2 года назад
I mean the idea of Belle having Stockholm is funny, but like Mario being a sociopath, it was all just a dumb theory.
@AVB025
@AVB025 5 лет назад
She left the castle 3 times actually but I don’t think a magic Christmas counts as its not ‘canon’ maybe?
@fantasyfiction101
@fantasyfiction101 7 лет назад
It's Lima Syndrome, Tangled and Hunchback are example of Stockholm Syndrome. Thank you so much for standing up against this theory!
@IsaacCarlson
@IsaacCarlson 7 лет назад
My pleasure! I just didn't like the way it fit into the story. In Tangled and Hunchback it really adds to the complexity of the characters, but it only makes Beauty and the Beast seem like an illegitimate love story. Thanks for watching!
@MsHopelessromantic24
@MsHopelessromantic24 5 лет назад
I never believed that Belle suffered from stockholm syndrom
@achristianlens
@achristianlens 7 лет назад
I just released something called "What is Beauty and the Beast trying to say?" I wouldn't have mentioned it but you asked our perspective :P Thanks for making this video!
@IsaacCarlson
@IsaacCarlson 7 лет назад
My pleasure! Thank you for sharing your ideas. I love hearing other people's ideas. Thanks for watching!
@Black.Rose743
@Black.Rose743 6 лет назад
When I see this movie I don't see Stockholm syndrome.
@IsaacCarlson
@IsaacCarlson 6 лет назад
Neither do I. That's why I had to make this one! Thanks for watching!
@karahgonzalez3293
@karahgonzalez3293 7 лет назад
"just because they don't understand" "You don't understand..." "prince's wait there in the world it's true, princes, yes, but wolves and humans too." - witch, into the woods found this funny
@MoraytheJoyBoat
@MoraytheJoyBoat 7 лет назад
I appreciate this explanation so much. The older I get, the more all these innocent lovely things I knew as a child become perverted. The older I get the more I realize it is important to consider these adulterated conclusions so we can explain them properly and discuss them as adults. I'm glad to see someone else in the world who has not lost faith in the purity of innocent and lovely things such as this.
@IsaacCarlson
@IsaacCarlson 7 лет назад
That's what I really want my channel to be about: pouring through the magic of so many films. I think some dark theories are okay sometimes, but in this case I just felt so opposed to this idea. Thanks for watching!
@misaki4119
@misaki4119 6 лет назад
@MoraytheJoyBoat isn't it odd that we only think of this things as adults? and as kids we were happy with happily ever after the end? i mean, what if its not meant to be analyzed so deeply? because the only time you start thinking, dissecting and analyzing is when you are an adult way pass the main target audience of fairytales and disney cartoons so maybe the message is actually simple and not something complex like stockholm or abuse or things like that because as kids the world is not like that, it is funny and wonderful and full of love and friendship and other corny stuff like that.
@kouhaisempai4800
@kouhaisempai4800 6 лет назад
"Perverted" meaning twisted from the original intention, changed to something darker, etc. The application of Stockholm Syndrome to Beauty and the Beast changes the original meaning to something darker - it "perverts" the meaning.
@elirchi9214
@elirchi9214 3 года назад
YES. HELL YES TO THIS. When I was just a little kid and watched this movie nothing else in the world could've destroyed it for me. It's a tale as old as time about two rejected people finding each other in the strangest of ways falling in love. And now a bunch of people are saying ""Hurr durr Belle has Stockholm syndrome"" :/
@bambirose6490
@bambirose6490 7 лет назад
I love Belle, she encourages women that reading books, having an imagination and being educated doesn't make you strange but it makes you different in the best way. They fall in love with each other because of their personalities. She also shows a lot of interest in him when she finds out he owns a library and when he protects her from the wolves. She falls in love with the person he is, not for any other reason. I love that you debunked this theory!! Xx
@jaydaekang8097
@jaydaekang8097 7 лет назад
Thank you for disproving that stupid Stockholm Syndrome theory! This is what I have been saying the whole time. Thank you SO much!
@IsaacCarlson
@IsaacCarlson 7 лет назад
My pleasure! I'm glad you liked the ideas I presented. I felt I really needed to make this video. Thanks for watching!
@sabrinaking1873
@sabrinaking1873 6 лет назад
Why is it that people judge fairytales so harshly? They were meant for entertainment, no one even thought about character development/love relations when they were created. I think Disney did a pretty good job at portraying a romance story that has good chemistry and progression.
@captainhowlerwilson508
@captainhowlerwilson508 3 года назад
Beauty and the Beast may be one of the more progressive fairy tales we got. The Little Mermaid might’ve been part of that group too.
@ecclairmayo4153
@ecclairmayo4153 Год назад
Because small children are learning from them subconsciously
@DoctorNikkiP
@DoctorNikkiP 7 лет назад
This is one of my favorite Disney movies!
@IsaacCarlson
@IsaacCarlson 7 лет назад
Mine as well! Thanks for watching!
@shadenarour4518
@shadenarour4518 7 лет назад
This and The Princess and the Frog are my favorite Disney movies.
@DoctorNikkiP
@DoctorNikkiP 7 лет назад
Shaden Arour are you going to see the live action?
@andrewhiggs1348
@andrewhiggs1348 7 лет назад
JoyfishXO Mine 2!!
@andrewhiggs1348
@andrewhiggs1348 6 лет назад
Wander5101 so do I. I just get mad when people say this movie is about bestiality and Stockholm syndrome. Because both of those statements can be proven false.
@TheLinainverse5
@TheLinainverse5 6 лет назад
The only one I know of who could have Stockholm syndrome is Harley Quinn of the Batman series..given how the joker treats her and stuff
@crystalnova4254
@crystalnova4254 7 лет назад
I never once thought Belle had Stockholm Syndrome. I've had the Beauty and the Beast since I was a little kid, and even when I heard about the "theory", I knew it wasn't true. Belle is a misunderstood girl in a town that wants her to be just like them, something I've had to deal with as well. I wasn't into makeup and dresses when I was growing up, and I read so many books and made art because those were my only true friends at the time. After watching this movie a few weeks ago, I remembered how much I loved the movie and how much I could relate to Belle. Belle and Mulan are my favorite princesses, and I cannot wait to see the live action Beauty and the Beast.
@ritajasaha2550
@ritajasaha2550 6 лет назад
Kitsune Hayashi We can be soul sisters. You thoughts and experiences exactly match mine. And Belle and Mulan are my absolute favourite disney princesses too. (Especially Belle)
@stephanieromeo885
@stephanieromeo885 7 лет назад
I'm so so so happy that someone finally understands and proves that Belle doesn't have Stockholm Syndrome. To me Beauty and the Beast is about never judging a book by its cover. It's absolutely amazing that someone finally proves this.
@creepyz7405
@creepyz7405 7 лет назад
I wholeheartedly agree with this theory of Beauty and the Beast. I've never believed Belle had stockholm syndrome in anyway possible. It would've been easy for people to automatically take the idea of stockholm syndrome into account with this movie because it's shown on the surface and the potrayal of it is ostentatious. But People who believes in the stockholm syndrome that Belle supposedly was said to possess, has missed the hidden facts, the signs that contradicts the condition and that withstands the truth about Belle and Beast's romance. I've always stayed to true the fact that Belle is strong but an outcast and Beast was cruel and...also an outcast. There is no sign of stockholm syndrome depicted in this movie given that these 2 iconic characters are opposites yet equals. They constantly bicker and contradict each other which is how a natural romance should begin to operate when they're against each other's wishes. These destined souls have one thing in common... THEY ARE OUTSIDERS! And they don't fall in love knowingly. They fall for each other through time and patience without an ounce of awareness that they're slowly but surely, falling in love... They're in this world where they've experienced rejection, where they've experienced loneliness. Which I believe is the perfect romance, because falling in love isn't simple. The fact that there are two different or two lost individuals that happens to be alike in a very significant way without even knowing is overall clever. This love I find to be the best because 9 times out of 10 when there are two opposing forces to be reckon with, in the end, when they're together, They end up being the most powerful force ever to encounter. The bond is strong and the romance is slow and easy which makes it ever so sweet and understanding. And this is what I love about Beauty and the Beast. And it will forever be one of my favorite Disney movies ever in Disney history😁💖
@ritajasaha2550
@ritajasaha2550 6 лет назад
ZAI C wowwwwww great thoughts about love and relationships.
@SaheeliRai
@SaheeliRai 7 лет назад
The whole Stockholm Syndrome thing started more as a joke.....
@SaheeliRai
@SaheeliRai 7 лет назад
I remember first hearing of it in some princess rap battle
@RumpleteazerCatsFan
@RumpleteazerCatsFan 7 лет назад
Wouldn't it make sense that Belle actually grew feelings for the Beast because she knows he's just under a spell and he's a person? I do agree with your statement that they were both outcasts and unaccepted persons and it could be one of the main reasons they fall in love with each other, but since there's been a lot of controversy about the beastiality thing -which depresses me a lot because it's a movie for children with a beautiful message-, it makes a lot of sense to me that she let her feelings for him blossom because she knows he's not an actual beast
@Claire-bz8mq
@Claire-bz8mq 3 года назад
The beastiality thing is kind of stupid when you consider that the beast is obviously human. He has human eyes, dresses like a human, acts like a human, even if Belle didn’t know about the curse I still think it’s stupid to apply it to a story without any of the actual problems with beastiality
@chooshme
@chooshme 6 лет назад
I think you did a great job analysis the film "Beauty and the Beast". Your conclusion about the question which Belle Has Stockholm Syndrome, is quite true as for my opinion: I think she doesn't. I think that the true message behind this movie is more deep and strong as far as we all know. Belle is falling inlove with the Beast, because as you said, he changes and has shown his true emotions to her when the time passes latter on. As for Belle, she is starting to feel care for him because she can see his true desires as a woman ans as a human been with a strong personality. She has a pure heart and that's why her feelings are changed at the time for the Beast. If Gaston has been shown a bit of change, I believe that Belle would have been had eccepted Gaston as a friend, like she did with the Beast. This message is very important, beacuse the true change of the Beast from the inside reveals his true form the outside. Belle is pure and sincere from both sides: inside and outside, and only by identifying with both sides, as a true Beast he could changed from his own will, like Belle does, from the beggining.
@chisomololo9138
@chisomololo9138 3 года назад
Who cares? Gaston is nothing but a lustful, narcissistic douchebag Yandere who cares about no one but himself and he'll never learn anything and change for the better.
@jorgebersabe293
@jorgebersabe293 2 года назад
Belle wants a gentleman, not a manbaby. The Beast was that gentleman, Gaston was the manbaby.
@xana625
@xana625 7 лет назад
I really like how you explained what Stockholm Syndrome is and how Belle does not have it.
@briannaanderson5607
@briannaanderson5607 7 лет назад
Wow Amazing.......The deeper meaning that you got for this is way true than the actual meaning that everyone already knows.
@IsaacCarlson
@IsaacCarlson 7 лет назад
I'm happy you liked it! Thanks for watching!
@AnInkStick
@AnInkStick 7 лет назад
Thank you!! I'm so sick of this Stockholm syndrome BS!
@tacotherapythursday5186
@tacotherapythursday5186 5 лет назад
The Stockholm Syndrome theory for Belle kind of reminds me of how everyone seems to think Aurora (sleeping beauty) has narcolepsy. She was put under a sleeping curse, that’s literally the main focus of the movie. Its like people don’t even watch the things they’re theorizing about..
@sheem.2450
@sheem.2450 5 лет назад
Exactly!!! 👏👏👏
@jaceyking5015
@jaceyking5015 7 лет назад
Bless you for making this. Seriously.
@IsaacCarlson
@IsaacCarlson 7 лет назад
I'm happy you enjoyed it! Thanks for watching!
@Ro994
@Ro994 7 лет назад
THANK YOU for making this, I was SICK AND TIRED of people not getting this!!
@IsaacCarlson
@IsaacCarlson 7 лет назад
I'm glad you enjoyed the video! I totally know where you're coming from. Thanks for watching!
@julieshez387
@julieshez387 4 года назад
yeah people like them and their opiniated disagreements well they just think differently everybody has opinions.
@soundyfamily6001
@soundyfamily6001 7 лет назад
I found a theory that chip is adopted
@IsaacCarlson
@IsaacCarlson 7 лет назад
Interesting. I think I have heard about that once. Thanks for watching!
@metagross9092
@metagross9092 7 лет назад
That'd be an interesting topic to cover if the theory can be found
@dionysos46
@dionysos46 7 лет назад
He's Prince half-bro. ;-)
@tcrpgfan
@tcrpgfan 5 лет назад
Truth. Beast hadn't learned how to read before the movie. So that does put him on the same level of general intelligence as the villagers, BUT, unlike them, he actually does want to learn more and appreciates Belle teaching him how to read. It also counts as something she can give to him that he doesn't have, and they can share those moments where she can share her love of reading with someone around her age for once, while the Beast learns a new skill and is able to see that there is more to Belle than her looks.
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