Therapist Reacts to BEAUTY & THE BEAST (Animated) 

That's a very good point! Besides, the sheep didn't bite into any words on the page, but Gaston's mud got all over everything.

@@jennifermathew1285 wow, you are strong, but I do hope you find a solution to this and not allow yourself to always get hurt like that :( is there a way to teach him not to do it? Maybe as he gets older? Or maybe give him space when he gets angry?

Lol yep

I still agree that her reaction was muted though. I definitely don't love books nearly as much as Belle, but I'd be so down if a book I bought got ripped. I'm in perpetual annoyance after a book I have got a stain on it, I couldn't even imagine what it's like to Belle who has so few books. And if some asshole threw my book in mud YOU BEST BET HE WOULDN'T JUST GET A NASTY LOOK. I'm straight punching him and never talking to him again.

@@plipplop1769 Honestly I kind of feel it is a little worse since it was likely another library book and not actually her property based off her response about repeatedly picking up the same book while returning others so anyone else who checks that book out will also see the torn pages. Also goes to show Gaston wasn't paying attention to the book as he flipped through the pages claiming no pictures were in it despite us just having witnessed the sheep bite a page with a photo on it but who knows if the other side of that page had anything important to the book's story that is now missing.

Great observation!

Bruh. I didn't even think about this.

Nice

DANG

Touche'

😱 Yes! Hello fellow bookworm 📚

If anyone would appreciate my hobby just half as much as the beast belles love for books, I would die instantly of unconditional love! I swear (greetings a bookworm myself)

As a fellow bookworm, this was my dream as a child. And also one of the reasons I could never get into e-readers. I am working on building my own personal library & being able to lend out/share books with people makes me very happy.

Yes, and the fact that he is so, so happy by her reaction. He's giving her something he knows she'll like, and she gets to experience his joy at doing a nice thing. So she sees him start to care about her and respect her, which shows her how much he's growing.

Make sure it is cool in summer and warm in winter. (Had one that I never used because it was too hot/cold.)

There is a pride and prejudice feel to it for me in that way. They call each other out, consider the other person's perspective and work on themselves accordingly.

@@juliaschurmann358 I was surprised that I am surprised knowing this lol, I have always loved B&TB as a child and I was a Jane Austen fan because of P&P but it never occurred to me that way😂 thx for pointing that out!

@@juliaschurmann358 Belle also reminded me of Elizabeth Bennett. At the start of the book Lizzie doesn't state her ideal man, but the readers know she isn't interested in pompous cousin Mr. Collins or rude first-impressions Darcy. Belle starts the film avoiding Gaston, because she instinctively knows he isn't right for her because he doesn't respect her (or her father). Lizzie gradually sees Darcy through different eyes, as Belle learned to find the man within the Beast.

No and he gave her that freedom to choose what she wants he felt bad sending her father out so he gave her the mirror to help her find him

And notice how differently Beast and Gaston react when she calls them out. Beast has a bit of a grump but immediately goes into getting help from his servants to improve himself. Gaston gets angry as soon as she calls him a monster and calls her crazy (classic narcissist behaviour)

Now that's a WEIRD ass village.

But she sang too.

@@junjunjamore7735 Well yes. They wrote a song just for her. The least she could do was show up for rehearsal every week on Tuesday. Next week they will start on the song for that happy guy with the pig.

That basically defines what it's like to live in a small town. I remember, the town I grew up in, Stevenson, Washington that only had 1,500 people.

Lol!! Thanks for the laugh 😂

Right? What do I do?. Just be like ".. eh. I'm alright"

He's SUCH a sad individual. When he faces off against Gaston (when he thinks Belle is gone for good), the sadness in his eyes is heartbreaking.

The moment where Gaston goes "Did you honestly think she would want you when she has SoMeOnE LiKe Me?!" And you know that punches Beast right in the inferiority complex even though we'd all prefer a gentlemanly if furry beast man to bloody Gaston the narcissist.

But wasn't that already obvious?!...

I got brainwashed into hating myself over my lifetime. My father, my X, my sister, then there are the legitimate failures and just being human backing all that up.. now I have a wife who loves my more than I ever thought possible and I am healing and believing that I am actually lovable. I'm still struggling with the Gospel of Jesus Christ and even my own acceptance, but I know the truth, and eventually the Truth will set me free. ❤️

He saw something she loves and gave her something based on that. He took the time to care and my god, my heart

I want to add that I don't think that gifting her with the library was a means of "I want this girl to fall in love with me, what does she like?" Instead, he says it's because he wants to do something NICE for her. Yeah, he is saying it because he's feeling something he's never felt before, but to me it always came off as wanting to show appreciation for Belle rather than I BRING YOU PRESENT PLS LOVE ME So yeah, it is effectively because he wants her to be happy. He starts doing a lot of things to try and make the castle and life there more comfortable for her too, putting in the effort simply because she's important to him. And that effort is there, Belle sees it, acknowledges it, and is receptive to it. That being receptive is what allows real love to start happening. Also, I love that they actually do sit down and read together. A shared love of literature is a thing they have in common and it's super cute that they spend that time just enjoying a good book by the fire.

Gifts are one of the 5 love languages. Maybe it's not a good reason for Belle to fall in love with him, but it's a valid way for him to express his feelings. (Even if it's possibly a bit over-the-top.)

I think it's similar to when someone gives a gift that's very specific to your interests, while yes it's something material technically it does show that they know and understand you, they pay attention and listen to you and care about what you are passionate about and they took the time to think about a gift or gesture catered specifically to you. Sometimes the implicit aspects of a gift speaks volumes about how they see you and care about you that can mean a lot more than the gift itself.

Also, in a deleted scene that makes it into the extra song "Human Again" in the extended animated version and has it's own segment in the Broadway play, Beast has a huge character building moment. Before we see him always forcing his will on others but for the first time he lowers his guard by admitting he'd never truly learned/ lost the ability to read after he gifts Belle the library to make her happy. Belle offers to teach him and soon they bond over their love of books. In the Broadway play Belle even falls asleep while Beast was reading to her but he's so invested in the story that it's not until he has a question that he realizes she'd been asleep propped against his shoulder. Instead of waking her to answer his question he gently moves her into a more comfortable position before returning to reading the book. It may seem small and insignificant but it really shows the huge breakthrough for both of them in the story.

I laughed more than I should've because I've studied this story for a long time and this story is very nostalgic.

Brilliant!!! 😂😂

"No Belle? 🥺 "

“No-Belle Prize Winner” made me cackle so loud that I actually spooked my cat 😂😂😂

Love the play on words.

So guys, you heard it here. Bring your Kindle to your next date.

seriously you mean i didn't have to be single in high school, i just had to buy a girl i liked a library dam it and here i used my allowance to buy lunch when i could of bought a library to get a girl to like me LOL

Period sister. Library= marriage

As a bookworm girl with brown hair, Belle was my favourite princess.

I would say yes imedieatlely... (How do I write that word, I'm German :D) When he has a library, he wanted it in the first place. Which means he likes to read and is probably a smarty, well read, lot's of imagination, big dreams, healthy mind. All good tropes in character. Then he actually has the money to do so! For someone like me a dream coming true. When he has the money to buy an entire library, he is stable in life. So yeah... Day 1 to ??? I will tackle the fantasy section.

Literally I strive to have the same amount of self confidence and bravery as her😭

ya yo Belle was always a hero to me. first thing i saw her do was defend herself from the town loud mouth. i didn't understand that at the time but that was very important for me (and many other kids) to actually see. then she goes looking for her dad after he gets lost in the woods and pretty much frees her dad from a cage. then she becomes super buddies with the FURNITURE. they see her humanity and they sing to her and feed her. then she nurses the giant furry like you said. then the town loud mouth comes back and he goes for the giant furry... and WHO ENDS UP SAVING THE WHOLE CASTLE? (sorry for the spoilers)

What a stupid thing to talk about Bella here. You are not the sharpest tool in the box.🤦

@@sexysadie2901 what? Why?

I loved these parts!

Exactly!!!

That is so true!!!! 🤗 Although the Project Gutenberg version was one hell of a ride 🤣 it oozes Stockholm Syndrome at its finest 🤣

And Whitney Avalon's Princess Rap Battles doesn't help at all, and those shitty memes annoy me.

Abusers can however start to act nice in order to further control them.

Exactly! And he doesn't just act nice in order to make her like him, he finally has some self-awareness and chooses to become a better person. He doesn't try and manipulate her, he just wants her to be happy. And she doesn't stick around, when she goes into the West Wing and he throws a tantrum, she's still technically bound by her word, but she says "fuck that" and bounces because she doesn't feel safe. Both times she returns, there is a reason, and she fully makes that choice. She has so much agency in this film, and it sucks when people try to oversimplify it just to try and dunk on it.

Would you say she’s more positive than Tiana

@@freetobree5323 hmm... Yes. And I feel like she is more kind hearted. The only reason she was in her position was to save her father. A truly selfless act. Tiana is doing it for a reward to buy her restaurant and then to save herself from being a frog... not to save someone. She is very brave though

YESSS !! I was like, what's wrong with me for liking him more as a Beast 😈. Maybe I am a furry and didn't know it 😂

@@sarahcaitlyn88 They both follow the shared falling in love with someone over time when in a position of captivity which I think is neat. They just have different reasons as to why they ended up in the situation.

but beast after his transformation was 😍

EXACTLY!!!!

yes, exactly

The more she resists, the more into it he gets. He loves to hunt, even after people.

Exactly. Since he thinks so highly of himself, he believes he deserves the best. To him the most beautiful girl in the village is the best, so he must own that, and I say "that" because to him Belle is not a person, she's a thing he must own.

yep, an expert _"womanizer"_ like him needs to catch every trophy wife in town.

Holy cow, I just realized Disney’s “Beauty and the Beast” is somewhat similar to Jane Austen's “Pride and Prejudice”!

It had me in stitches!!!

I can't breathe 😂

I need more fictional Yelp reviews like that in my life.

100%.

Being saying that for years:)

And in general that is something many masculine energy filled people adore

@@msk-qp6fn I am recovering from narcissist and psychopathic abuse. I knew I was in recovery when I watched Lucifer and all my friends were talking about how dreamy he was. I said " he's a narcissistic ass!" They said well, yeah? Girls are conditioned to fall for these guys.

Stupid phone. I hate my spell check

@@cindyhutchins9216 probably its better to look for Christian things like Touched By An Angel :) the angels all have healthy relationships with each other and God and those who they are trying to help. Try going to Life Church Online ... and stay away from things named Lucifer/Demon/Satan etc. Cinderella's stepmother's cat was named Lucifer and you can see how she turned out.

And adding to this, how absolutely giddy he is to show her this and make her happy. The dude is on cloud 9 just by showing her the library. The facial animation on him, also considering they have to figure out how to make a beast face look THAT excited, is so impressive to me.

But no t only that , later in the movie (well in the added scene of "human again " ) Belle is reading Romeo and Juliet and Beast is next to her listening to her completely hipnotized😊. He loves her so much that not only he gives his library to her , but he also SHARES hee passion with her .

It's my biggest aspiration in life to own a library like that.

Not as a tactic to make her stay/want to stay. She was kidnapped.

I wouldn't have opened the door. I always thought it was weird that _she_ did.

And in the Dance scene , Belle put herself close to the Beast and he was surprised ...why ?, because she felt comfortable with him , knowing he wasn't going to hurt her or take advantage of her, unlike Gaston. The Beast respects her, so she then takes the initiative

Yup, and then when she put herself against a wall I just had that 'oh no, don't do that, you can't run from there' stressed feeling but then she opened the door and I was so relieved and happy.

Ya lol

@@ingridsuperfreak And then the Beast's confusion followed immediately by utter glee just rounds out the contrasting scenes.

Lindsay Ellis did a whole thing on how lazy this interpretation was and how it came about through Buzzfeeding. It never made sense and as put by Jonathan and Lindsay. She breaks most of his stipulations immediately.

@@Firegen1 Lindsay Ellis did a good breakdown of Beauty and the Beast

Yeah, the captor fell in love with the captee. That’s the reverse of Stockholm syndrome

I always thought that the original story from the 1700s was about arranged marriage and an attempt to convince girls that even though it might seem bad it could end up well for them and that they could find love in it.

@@Loaves_of_Cat aka Lima Syndrome

There’s also the fact that she didn’t want to find true love or anything she just wanted to dress nice and go to a party

This...exactly this 🙌🙌🙌🙌

@@noxiouschocolate9644 Truee. Home girl just wanted to go to the ball because it's the ball, the first one in a long while. Even a someone uninterested in the royal family but wants to see something new would be interested for the experience. I'd even want to go for the foods made by the royal chefs lmao

The Take has a great video on Cinderella! People seem to forget a lot of the time that she was never even interested in the prince at the beginning; she just wanted a day off from work. Yes, she meets the prince at the ball, but she doesn't go there to meet him; she goes for herself.

I think Cinderella as a character is good, I just don't think the movie as a whole should be used as ultimate role model material for kids. It should be treated as dumb fun like most fairytales imo, further than that and it can be harmful. Because ultimately, what is presented as the reward is romance. It gives the idea that as long as you keep persevering, some prince will just swoop you off your feet and that's kind of the only way things'll get better, to depend on someone else.

I wish they kept it in. It would've been another way Beast and Gaston were different. While they're both illiterate, Beast is interested and wants to learn more while Gaston doesn't see it as worthwhile.

He doesn't mind hearing it over and over again.

It’s a nice touch, but a „prince” in 18th or something Century not being able to read is just absurd

@@muchanadziko6378 True but monks would’ve prioritized this over nobility or royalty.

@@muchanadziko6378 thats because he is 11

True...but that's not why he gave it to her. It was purely to make her happy, and to see that look on her face. It was that she "received" it, not that he gave it.

You can buy a lot of acres of the friend zone

@@megroy6396 This is true. There was no evidence that he was trying to buy her love. And that library was amazing.

the best part was that the beast wasn’t trying to even get her love, he just wanted to do something for her that she would appreciate.

I'd love it especially if you let me fill it up with books I love!

@vulcanhumor Yeah. Totally. It's clear in her facial expression: "I could -- no. No. I'm better than that. Papa raised me better than that. I have to help him." (10/13/2021)

Yep, the reason she makes that choice is definitely more of her remembering her personal sense of morality than her being cowed or coerced into it somehow.

Isn't it manipulation 101 to appeal to the victim's compassion and conscience

@@glorialiedtke8931 but at some point don't people have to decide as well when to use their own kindness and compassion? Like I get what you mean but at some point we need to exercise these things of our own free will as well.

@@glorialiedtke8931 Adam didn't manipulate her AT ALL. He LITERALLY CHANGED HIS ATTITUDE AND RESPECTS BELLE. STOP VILLAINIZING HIM WITH BULLSHIT.

I always thought the same thing at that part. lol

The sheep eating a page scene is a total suspension of disbelief killer for me. I get upset over a slight dog-eared page or a wrinkle. lol

LMAO 🤣🤣🤣

Omg 😂❤

I think he was looking for a centerfold....

And all of his servants would have become household objects for real.

And the fact that he says "I deserve the best", again making Belle his prize.

@Dark That's one thing I liked better in the unnecessary live-action remake; Gaston explains that he's uninterested in the other girls because they throw themselves at him.

@Dark Often times narcissist who are used to getting everything they want, get obsessive or angry when they don’t get what they want. I think the reason he wanted Belle so bad was because he felt like he couldn’t have her which offended him and offered a challenge. He felt like if he could complete that challenge and have her, the one thing out of his reach, that it would be proof that he really is the best. IMO

@Dark I think you missed some very important byplay in the 1991 movie between Gaston and Lefou. He points out that she’s the most beautiful girl in town, making her the best, and therefore, he deserves her. This not only answers the question of “why is he interested in her if she’s so smart and well read and he’s no into that?” But also reveals how much stock and importance Gaston places in physical outward beauty and perfection, his own beauty and perfection, his own worth, and just how little he cares about things like personality and character. As he considers someone to be what he deserves from pure physical beauty ignoring other less beautiful suitors attracted to him as well as the massive incompatibility between his interests and that of the person he wishes to wed.

Notice Gaston points his gun at her in that scene? It's about the hunt, power, control, achieving the unattainable. Powerful and subtle symbology is all throughout this film

YES! the way he phrases it is vital "i've never felt this way about anyone. i want to do something for her". Not, I want to get her to like me or I want to win her over- he just wants to make her feel as happy as she makes him. he's not even thinking about the curse at this point. he's just thinking about her.

Well said!!!

Yes! Thank you so much for saying this! I hate how modern cynical interpretations make this movie out to be something it's not.

True the Beast's gift was for Belle to be happy not impressed by his possessions

Indeed, as a licensed therapist, Jonathan knows what he's talking about, and would definitely know the signs of real Stockholm Syndrome if he saw them.

There’s also another professional (a therapist I think?) who did reaction on Disney princessses. It wasn’t that person’s personal channel but rather she was invited.

Lindsay Ellis did one too, I think. It also really bugs me when people say that, because it's such a lazy analysis.

Personally I think it’s a bit of both Stockholm syndrome and the syndrome that’s the opposite of it cause in the end, Belle did technically fall in love with her captor too. She just fell in love later than him.

I swear I am so happy right now. I remember another video circulating tumblr that also said that it wasn't, but people just don't seem to understand basic facts, even from a professional.

He basically says he’s going to rape her. She will give him children, sons specifically, and she has no say in the matter. Gaston belongs on a list and I can’t believe I’m saying this, but his fixation on Belle may have saved other women in the village from this. Gaston is more beastly than an actual beast.

@@jbcatz5 He is also a disturbing depiction of a "nice guy": Gaston believes that Belle owes him sex just for paying attention to her and the moment she rejects him, he restorts to violence.

Go to the Manosphere and you'll see Gastons 😂

and what’s crazy is that i’ve never seen this movie so from your description i thought the beast did this, but it was actually gaston. the way this movie subverts preconceived notions is fantastic

@@jorgebersabe293 Wtf you talking about??

"A person who has good thoughts cannot ever be ugly. You can have a wonky nose and a crooked mouth and a double chin and stick-out teeth, but if you have good thoughts they will shine out of your face like sunbeams and you will always look lovely." - Roald Dahl, The Twits

I like Johnathan wife's quote. 'Beauty has little to do with how you look'

Me too ❤️

Well, she's loving & kind, selfless, smart, curious, brave, honest, faithful and funny. That's pretty much a sweep. She also happens to be THE "beauty" (as per the title)?!?! Rude. Greedy. 🤷🏼‍♂️😜👍

@@chriskelly3481 exactly. Belle in that movie could be the most outwardly hideous person you'd ever see but, I'd be fascinated with who she is. She's a "belle" regardless of whatever exterior standards are out there.

Precisely, the entire story is a lot more nuanced than we'd expect, and both Belle and the Beast grow to love each other in time.

Same here!!

There was another film I needed them to do!

Hear, hear! ❤️

And this is also why the remake is so dang awful 😭

Which is also true of any woman in that situation lol

It allways cracks me up tbh

THIS. And this is why anyone alleging "Stockholm Syndrome" utterly fails to convince me. She was completing *a vow for her father* in *medieval-ish times* . Basically filial piety.

@@McCammalot yeah everyone seems forget that despite his appearance he us still just a young man and not been around anyone new in AGES. So after years doing whatever he wants her yelling probs a big shock 😂 it like when kid comes home from college an wanna act like forgot house rules. So funny watch tbh cause he really had no idea how handle being told "no" and someone not rushing do as he says. Thankfully unlike Gaston [who would take that an mean he must get his way by force] Beast uses his head an finds another way an takes a different an kinder approach.

@@sarhahillsburg5142 it's almost a parallel, isn't it? Gaston and Beast are both spoiled, but the Beast grows beyond it (possibly because of lack of human contact and, at the end of the day, not taking it for granted? Whereas Gaston expected to be worshipped.) My theory has a bit of a problem, though, as I don't like to think of the enchanted staff as "not human" contact. I'll have to work on that 😁

You can feel even better because there's no such thing as Stockholm Syndrome. It's a totally fictional pop culture invention. There's never been a single confirmed case after the bank incident iirc, and the very idea of it has been thoroughly debunked for a very long time.

Same

same feeling!

And that's why it's important to listen to your own heart, not some stranger on the internet or even reviews.

The Beast was like a child in a candy store when Belle was reading King Arthur.

Haha, that's wreck it Ralph in a nutshell

This is likely the first time (besides being cursed) Beast was ever scolded by anyone. Think about it, he is only surrounded by scared servants and not many know how to approach difficult subjects without acting like they are walking on eggshells, so while those that knew how to talk to him, he didn't take as seriously. There's no family or other relatives to balance his behavior, so he was so used to having things go his way, including going on full rage when pissed, and with that argument he had to start to learn to humble himself. With Belle's side of the argument, he had to consider that certain traits, such as his temper, have got to go if he wants Belle to at least stay. This was a big step for someone with a lot of pride and bitterness to acknowledge, but it was an important step to his character development as well learning to compromise which is essential in a health relationship. It also (along with saving her) gave Belle a reason to be patient with Beast because he considered her issues that transpired previously and he adjusted to fix those issues, she then started to see Beast had a tender side he was not used to presenting.

Yet she was a child and he was a grown adult

@@keylster6765 Not necessarily, the Beast is 20 turning 21 and Bell is apparently 17, probably to be 18 and she has more worldly experience than Beast, who's been a hermit since he was 11.

@@lelole9360 no, she isn't... She is around 17 could be younger but she is still a minor, and beast is 21, not 20 he is still an adult and she is a minor doesn't changethat fact even if he was 20.

That is a fantastic point! All my life, I had never thought about that before.

I think she also learned how to be her authentic self from her father as well since her father is also considered a freak for doing things not the town's way but his way and he too never changes too despite everybody mocking him :)

Such an incredible point! It’s sad how many people overlook this beautiful quality about Belle. It set her apart from so many of the more modern princesses and heroines for me!

Also another note I read 10:28 as established titties

Omg 🤣

What part was that?

NOOOOO LMAO this is amazing

I had only noticed the "Book thief" nickname and felt so amused

Not really. Nor all domestic violence victims cower in fear. Toxic relationship behavior. Both are red flags.

what i mainly liked is argument did not really go in a toxic place. they both vented some grievances but didn't let it go on very long or escalate, and came out the other side with better understanding. the beast runs out of retorts and is healthy enough to realize he was ultimately the source of the problem and relents, controlling his temper as she just demanded he learn to do. she then as if recognizing and appreciating his humility here, she matches his level and brings up something he did right and truly appreciated, saving her life. there's genuine warmth, humility and appreciation in her voice and his response as they ease out of the tension and into mutual respect. this to me is actually a pretty healthy conflict and one of the first good moments they have because there is mutual kindness and effort

Wait a minute....You're so right! The Gaston song describes the way the beast looks so well! How did I not notice this?

- Strong - Large - Hairy - Could probably eat more than 5 Dozen Eggs

Except the teeth tho

wAIT I SEE IT YOU'RE SO RIGHT

This reminds me of a writing prompt I saw awhile ago, which basically said "what if instead of the Beast's curse just lifting and disappearing, it transferred to Gaston instead of his death."

Just improving dose not mean it's healthy though, because whenever there is stress in your life the worst parts of you always poke out thier ugly heads. So people should be careful about ignoring red flags just because the have improved. Marriage is going to give you the most stressful and vulnerable moments. Letting someone that close to your heart, it's basically impossible that our faults wont "hurt" our partner at some point, and vice versa.

@@rosasutubechannel That's not the case here though, Beast understanding that Belle needs to leave and cater to her father, and actually letting her go is proof that it _is_ a healthy relationship, since he knows how to give boundaries and let go of her, even if there's the possibility that he'll never see her again. Actually, the moment Belle finds out that her father is in danger, the possibility to lose Belle forever, should be stress-inducing enough to show someone's true character. And he didn't even panic over it, he just let her go, since he knew that Belle would be better off and happier this way.

@@Пинагод So sorry, that was an unfinished draft I did not realize posted, Lol. I actually LOVE B&B and similar stories and completely agree with you! But I do worry for woman and men who can get convinced to stay in toxic relationships because "thier partner is trying/improving" especially because marriage has a way of bring out the best and worst in everyone. Those "worse" parts need to be ones we can accept.

Yeah I never liked Disney's Beauty and the Beast or its original tale but I never understood why people saw it as unhealthy. I do understand why some adults are concerned you know with the i can help a bad boy type of thing but the beast and belle's dynamic isn't bad quite on the healthy side if anything

One of the reasons beast likes belle so much is that she points out his faults im sure being a prince no one ever did this which is why he was cursed in the first place. He wasnt like gaston he wanted to be a better person just didnt know how because he was so spoiled..also it helps that he didnt seek out and kidnap her she made an agreement to trade places giving her control from the start.

Perhaps a sad bit of irony that for a movie about seeing past a shallow perception of people, the most common impression people spread is a shallow reading of the story.

amazing interpretation

Belle is more about the town and the ways everyone interacts with her, belle reprise is belle herself speaking and actually her own person showing 💙 i love it

But the real question is, with the beast have given belle a “chance” if she was ugly looking like he is??? This movie plays into the male female double standard very very heavily

@@joygernautm6641 I think at least in the Disney version he wouldn't have much of a choice as there was a wilting rose waiting to kill him. Somebody (somebody marriageable) needed to love him in a matter of *days* , he was not in any position to be picky. The fairy tale version varies. A lot of it is based more on her unselfishness-her sisters aren't ugly, they're greedy. And in the *real* original tale, Cupid and Psyche, from Roman times, her mortal beauty is immaterial; she is kept in the dark, and later punished for her curiosity in trying to see Cupid's face instead of having faith (and letting her family convince her that he must be monstrous or why would he keep everything dark?), in addition to actual god Cupid being hotter than her. (C.S. Lewis of Narnia fame wrote a version of Cupid and Psyche based on even earlier Estuscan lore where Psyche was outright unattractive but smart and sensible, which was why Cupid chose her, if I remember correctly. "Till We Have Faces" )

That’s because they’re so freaking many like Gaston so they think it’s a phase or something normal. “Boys will be boys” kind of thing

Maybe they just think it should go without saying… No one actually believes Gaston’s behavior is ok. The only time I heard a defense of Gaston was from RU-vidr John Doyle and that was tongue in cheek.

If I had to guess, I'd probably say that this is, because Gastons behaviour is never portrayed as something good in the movie. It's fun to poke at things the movie portays as good or romantic and turn them around. It gives space to debate. Stating Gastons behaviour as bad wouldn't be a turn or an "interesting new take". It would just be stating the obvious... At least, that's what I think might be the reason for these people not pointing that out.😅

Because Gaston's behavior isn't propped up like the relationship between the beast and belle is, that's not difficult to comprehend

Umm, that’s because Gaston is the VILLAIN and it’s universally accepted that his behaviour is awful. The movie portrays him as awful, there’s never a shadow of doubt so of course they don’t mention his behaviour. It doesn’t need to be said

But irl they're not even that good looking 😆 jk

If you hear older people talking with each other, you'll realize that most pf them felt like they're still a high schooler. And here I thought, I'll grew more mature as time goes by.

@@AllyInReality That's where you went wrong. You think being mature has any correlation with age.

@@queerlibtardhippie9357 why do people look down on younger ones then?

@@AllyInReality Since they have less experience, people assume they don't have any maturity.

Sounds like myself lol

Oh.....now that I think about it....that's just depressing.

Well it's flat out wrong. This guy never watched it. Beast is awful for being cruel and selfish. Did you ever watch the movie? If so, remind me, why was he cursed? And why was his curse broken?

Since you're probably too lazy, here it is: Reason for curse: Being selfish to others Reason for broken curse: Loving others, and getting their love back

@@TraceguyRune true

The Voice actor of Gaston is Richard White.also a boardway star.who had been playing Phantom. Beauty and the beast and tye little mermaid had persuade by Howard Ashman to use a boardway actor to do the Speaking and Singing voice.Not just cast the voice because of their frame.

My mother went to school with him.

I get what you mean but I think it'll make more sense if the consequence was natural and inevitable. The witch (or whatever) literally decided to curse everyone when she could have just... chosen not to.

@@MercurialMoon I've always thought that the witch should've been a fairy. That's what happens with fairies in stories. If you scorn them as a royal, they take it out on you and everyone connected to you.

@@ShadowyFox_86 i always read her as a fae. I know her proper title is enchantress and that and her actions always made me feel more fae then witch. But i read a lot of fairy tales as a kid so maybe just me ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

I like this concept. It falls in line with one my my dad's gripes about the Little Mermaid was as a result of her running away, the whole kingdom for days on end looked for her and her father was nearly worried to death.

That is an amazing point

literally Edward from Twilight lol

@@chloeevans5938 😂

The truth of most people out there

@@bigsistahtips indeed, there are way too many Gastons irl, and that is terrifying

@@amiecrowsong since that would be the case for most people...I PEFER to stay single🙂

That's a neat observation, it's really true!

Yeah I got that too.

Nine Inch Nail's Everyday Is Exactly The Same plays in my head from this comment. 🤣🤣

the way he runs during the snowball fight 😭😭

@@manasa908 that's the _exact_ scene I was watching when I made the edit lmao

I agree: there are definite allusions to her starting to catch feelings for him during the snowball fight scene.

Another agree. Just listen to the lyrics of the song: "There may be something there that wasn't there before." This CAN be taken to mean compassion and affection, but I think (especially considering the time period) it was very much intended to obliquely refer to romantic interest - and bringing up the concept of "Prince Charming" (even if it's only to say he's NOT) is another suggestion in that direction.

That could mean affection and not love tho, since they always say affection and love is dinner

I agree, in Jono's words of "not love," she's probably starting to feel affection and at some point even attachment, but she doesn't love him till the very end.

🤣

I always thought they were the servants and cleaners of the kitchen.

@@Charlotte8591 Mrs. Potts was a cook/servant so that doesn't stick

Even the roaches were cursed. 🤣

I always figured that, not only did the curse turn the servants into objects but it also bought the objects to life. So when the people turn back into people, the forks just turn back into forks.

Of course it has to be more realistic, the original story is a morality tale of premodern French expectations of marriage, when most marriages were arranged.

He did kidnap her, though lol.

@@sharlebrooks7406 she did still have a lot of agency in this though. she offered herself in exchange for her father's freedom (yes, under the pressure of the situation, but no one demanded it from her), she had the means to escape, she could have left after the wolf fight instead of bringing the Beast back to the castle.

The worst thing about the people who cry "Stockholm Syndrome" is that they have no idea what the condition actually is. As these guys established, it is *not* "hostage falls in romantic love with their captor." Yet every asshole thinks they're suddenly a licensed therapist and qualified to describe this despite doing zero research. It's the worst type of misappropriated and misunderstood pop psychology right up there with dream therapy and ink blot tests.

@@genevieva_b that does not negate the fact that he captured her father and then took her captive lol.

I cringed when I was a 9 yr old (first time seeing this movie). I understood personal space and could see Belle was uncomfortable back then. I think it was instinctive because everything he did was wrong like how he entered the house and was clearly invading Belle's personal space, something which I know people generally don't do to each other and Belle didn't look comfortable.

@@qwmx As a kid I was definitely thinking "Wow rude - personal space, man, could you not?" but I wasn't thinking about how actually threatening that would be from the standpoint of Belle knowing that she wouldn't be able to physically overpower Gaston in order to get away from him if it came down to it. Now that I'm older and know what it feels like to have a man that size coming on to you so strongly, and how small and helpless that can make you feel... it's a whole different brand of discomfort.

I was in that situation once and looking back I realize I handled it the way Belle did, which is to say poorly - trying to stay nice and not set him off in any way, instead of saying screw it and getting out.

Gaston was part of the reason I couldn't stand the animated movie even as a kid actually 😅 i never finished until i was much older

@@hiraphane I wondered why she didn't act a bit more aggressive and assertive. Even at the age of 9, I knew how to set and maintain my boundaries. I was also aware that if you let potentially dangerous things get too close to you, you are less likely to escape it (e.g. dogs), so I was cautious of a lot of things. Now that I'm older I guess she didn't want to exacerbate the situation or the potential danger her position poses to her did not immediately register to her, so she was going along with it while keeping herself safe. If I were her I would have told him to fuck off, but this was a different time and you're forced to get along with people back then.

As a girl from the same city of Caterina de Medici (I think it's the same person you wrote about?), I'm absolutely going to investigate this story

@@theanicolesallustio4377 Si! Vai a lo investigare!

A wolf-man? How can you be a wolf-man?

@@Furienna oh, That’s when you grow hair on your whole body, also the face etc. It’s called like this. It’s something genetical. But it’s not a chimera of human and wolf.

@@BarbaraMarieLouise Ah, that is what I thought as well. But I wanted to make sure.

This is an interesting point. The beast does seem narcissistic at first, though the problem with redemption stories in pop-culture is when a narcissist goes through a redemption it gives survivors of narcissistic abuse hope that their narcissist will change too. Most narcissistic people won't change because most narcissists don't think there is anything wrong with them. It gets confusing because deep down narcissistic people carry a lot of shame and at their core they are very insecure but it's like their coping mechanism is to lie to themselves and others that they are the best. Those narcissists that go to therapy usually go to please someone who is threatening to leave them (a.k.a. taking away "narcissistic supply") and sometimes they go and try to learn how to be more empathic from a therapist so they can manipulate people further. It's a great film until you realize that not everyone is capable of change. Gaston never changes making him a true narcissist and his death is basically like the beast killing his old self. The major problem I have with this movie is not about "Stockholm Syndrome" but about the redemption story that is constantly used in the media to make it seem like narcissists can easily change. Sure some people are capable of change but they usually aren't narcissistic people. It's a hard pill to swallow for most people which is why most victims of narcissistic abuse have difficulty leaving or moving on. Most people want to see good in people and hope everyone is capable of change. I like to surround myself with people who are not only empathic but seem to embrace change and are willing to grow.

Interesting insight. Never thought of that.

i like to think about it like it represents Beasts selfish personality. Everybody in his life is just a property and furniture and tools for him

Wow never thought of it that way

One member of the family, especially one so harmful, brings the entire house down with them.

PLEASE THIS!

YESSSS

Of course! I would love that.

Boost!

YES OMG

Also something I noticed is that after that scene where Belle helps clean up his wound, Beast never yells again. At anyone, even Gaston. He sternly but quietly tells him "get out" instead of screaming at him the way he did Belle earlier

@@yabserabetsuan5124 Wow. I can't believe I didn't pick up on that before. Nice catch. (7/25/2022)

THANK YOU

@@daniellemusella1594 I didn't as well. I'm surprised as this is one of my most watched Disney movies (though I haven't watched any lately besides Encanto) It's interesting how you wrote the date of when you replied to them. May I ask why you wrote the date?

@@sameerakhan7455 To remember when it happened. I like to think back to what, if anything, about my life was different then. (9/15/2022)

I know; it's crazy that people use such a realistic reaction to make up this entire category of 'dark romance' where people are 'irresistibly drawn' to their abusers for NO REASON. I have NEVER heard of a real-life instance of that happening. In abusive relationships I have actually heard of, the victim believed initially that their abuser was a good person; they were tricked and manipulated into falling in love with a false illusion, not the 'dark reality.' Once they learn the truth, they don't leave because they are afraid of the consequences of angering their abuser, simple as. And maybe natural human embarrassment to accept that they were deceived in the first place. It's a tough situation to 'just leave.' But nobody falls in love with abuse for the sake of being abused. It's just not reality. Edit: Just realized that I didn't clearly indicate that I don't think Beauty and the Beast is in any way representative of this fake 'romantic' Stockholm Syndrome at all, anyway!

Oh, we will get there!

And some Disney references along the way.

@@CinemaTherapyShow you guys are awesome.

@@CinemaTherapyShow thank god!

Whoohoo!

dang, that last paragraph. I didn't realize just how much Gaston truly fits into the "handsome hero" trope that's usually set out there. How the story could've easily fit the whole "sLigHtLy arrogant/cocky hero/prince does xyz impressive thing, maybe/maybe not changes a little, and wins the girl that initially rejected him" type thing even if he's kinda a shit person and the girl should've dropped him. really makes me appreciate the movie even more, I wonder how surprising this would've been at the time considering quite a bit of movies would've had a Gaston type charecter as the love interest.

@@seraphim108 exactly! That is why for the most part I do not enjoy watching movies such as sleeping beauty or the little mermaid or Cinderella because it just shows a relationship that does not have a strong base and all of these characters fall in love either at first sight or within a couple conversations / days. Sadly, most romance movies are like this but I find that these disney movies especially tend to follow the narrative of the prince saves the helpless princess. Contrastly, I love the movies The Princess and The Frog, Mulan, Moana, and Frozen (even though anna annoyed me a lot in the first movie lol) because it shows that you do not have to wait around for someone to save you and instead can be independent and happy while accomplishing great things :D Edit: typo

It's a control thing, too. In the era and country where this tale is set, marriage essentially gives the husband total legal OWNERSHIP of a wife. He can beat her, take her kids away, use all her money, whatever. So Gaston is aiming to completely control Belle's life - almost to an even worse degree than what the Beast is doing at the start of their interactions.

In other words: Gaston looks like the stereotypical Disney Hero, but his personality is far from being heroic.

@@annastevens1526 As the movie emphasizes a lot, Gaston is what The Beast could have become if the Enchantress never cursed him. Before his curse, the Beast was exactly like Gaston: Arrogant, spoiled, selfish and unkind, without any love in his heart. The Beast looks like a monster, but is heroic, kind, protective and daring. Gaston looks like a man, but is ruthless, brutish, selfish and psychopathic.

Me too, since Alan is a professional filmmaker, it makes sense that he'd be more attuned to spotting easily missed details!

#cryingwithAlan absolutely the best section ever

It's really nice to have someone who knows about film who isn't an animator actually deeply appreciate animation as a medium equal to live action filmmaking. I had a homeroom teacher in high school who who also taught film who did not watch anything animated because he didn't see there was any worthwhile in doing so. I lost all respect for that teacher that day.

#cryingwithAlan

#cryingwithalan

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Plus, Gaston wears red, as does the Beast earlier on. But as Belle falls for the Beast, he starts to wear purple (his cape) and blue (his formal dress suit for the titular song).

@@TherealRNOwwfpooh Wow, true! I never noticed that!

Historically speaking, divorce would have been practically impossible for Belle. It was almost impossible for a woman to get a divorce for any reason. A man could by accusing her of infidelity but a woman had no way of escaping a failed or even abusive marriage. So yes, marrying Belle would be the truest form of ownership.

Well maybe she could have attempted to divorce him by claiming he was impotent, but that would have required proving it. Yes, in front of some sort of jury.

@@brighidmcmullen9577 It's a Roman Catholic society, so there would be no divorce for anyone, period. The man having affairs or even permanent mistresses would be more accepted though.

I mean technically Beast was like 10 when the witch came. It's kind of messed up in multiple ways.

Yup

The dresser with the baseball bat did not go quietly into the night...

if you pause it right there, there's a lot of meme potential

It's the "Wookie Slaves on the Death Star" Dilemma all over again! 😁

I couldn't resist! XD

Also "book thief"... I had to send to my besties like "omg you guys! 1. Great vid. 2. Watch with cc... it makes it better!"

@@theakaneko Thank you so much for sharing the video. It means a lot to us!

LMAO I didn’t see that!

I noticed "Gastoff" and "Gastnever" too

Wow, that's pretty interesting, didn't know that. The danger with the Disney productions is that we tend to forget how the real stories were told. Muss ich wohl doch mal wieder meine Grimmsche Märchensammlung rauskramen 😁.

They changed it for the morals and I like their version better

The original wasn't a Grimm fairytale, it was written by Gabrielle-Suzanne Barbot de Villeneuve.

I think Gaston simply saw Belle's insult as a playfully defiant challenge.

I love Gaston xD He makes me laugh

Omg I love this

Oh I think he understood what positively primeval meant but was actually flattered by it

@@asiag6863 His overconfident manner suggests my conclusion more than it suggests yours.

I love that he's not giving her something in exchange for her liking him. He's giving her something just because she likes that thing.

It's his library, why would he look at it? I think he's seen it before.

Also the big smile on his face when doing so, since like you said it's something that will make her happy and he's happy for her happiness

True

Man, the details in the movie are SO GOOD

Exactly what I have come to think! That's just fairies for you. Not fairy godmothers-fairy, but "I will turn you into a donkey, steal your kid, put my own in their bed and turn all of your village into animals after a moment of considering. Why? Eh. You wouldn't get it."-fairy.

@@JuMiKu the original jokers

FR. Look up the story about Yallery Brown for how bad they can be.

Which is typical classic fae behavior actually. They are basically natural and karmatic force personified and often see no difference among the individuals of humanity

Yeah, but those people went after those were at least adults/ teenagers at the very least. This was an 11 year old child. Quick question do you know what love means at that age? The fairy was just lazy/ not good at her job, and didn't put much thought into it. I mean can you imagine an 11 year old left to their own devices and having the run of the place (think peter pan); and apply that to the real world. That is what this fairy did here. Also, the people who didn't bother to stand up to a kid, I don't think people would've minded the staff acting as stand in parents for the boy. The only excuse they have is that they feared for their lives. In those times nobles could have you put to death no matter how young, unless someone of their family/ equal rank stepped in. It goes back to the fairy, she had the power, the authority, nobody would've questioned her/ got in her way. 🤷 Belle did all the work. She basically raised a man child to be a man. In short, the fairy was pretty evil (she also cursed other children who were much younger than 10, and did absolutely nothing wrong, such as chip for example); just not as proactive about it as OG maleficent was. Neither of them fit into the good category.

Lol the last one 😂

Thanks for pointing out! Didn't know this :)

This show always has great closed captions.

Also Gastout. 🤣 Thanks~

Yes! The Captions on the Twilight Saga were hilarious! Sparklyboy, Wolfy...

My thoughts too.

Look, I can’t lie and say I wouldn’t develop ANY type of feelings towards someone if they gave me a library That big and beautiful 😹😹

Same

Same

I thought the exact same thing while watching, haha! If the person has a wonderful personality AND got me my own personal library....then yeah, he's probably a keeper. X'D

True but Prince Adam could have been polite and let the woman stay for a night or two kindness goes a long way Prince Adam was rude spoiled and unkind prince that deserved punishment and she is an enchantress

@@courtneysheffield6336 So if a random stranger knocked on your door you'd really let them stay in your house for a night or two?

@@ChaosRocket yes I would because there is nothing wrong with being kind and helpful

@@ChaosRocket You are making a false equivalence, the prince was in no danger from the old beggar woman (he had guards and such) and it would be expected that a traveler asking for shelter, actually offering a token payment, would be at least be given a meal, someplace to wash up, and a place to sleep (usually, in a hay loft, with the servants, or some other warm out of the way place) as part of the obligations of being a Noble/Royal. The Prince was a landed Prince, it would be expected that he would shelter travelers.

I feel the curse was a bit extreme for a child, but the time period was a bit brutal. He doesn’t have much in the way of a role model from what we see as none of the servants stand up to him (understandably so) and he’s been isolated from anyone other than the servants. He’s bitter and feeling hopeless, so it’s interesting how his humanity doesn’t fully leave, but is sort of shut out of his mentality until he gets to know Belle and realizes being stuck as he says “a monster” is worth it to release any obligation from Belle because she herself has done nothing to warrant it.

Me too...if they want to look at a super unhealthy relationship (Stockholm-ish?)....critique Labyrinth. I can't blame Sarah bc The Goblin King was HOOOTTTT....but still just a smidge unhealthy.

Hearing him say the words "That's not Stockholm syndrome" was so unbelievably refreshing.

And it has been said that a kiss is a promise of sex, so throw that into the equation

Not medieval but yes

@petal drops actually in the stage musical he's actively pursuing them as side pieces, even after declaring his intentions to marry Belle.

Excellent point!!

Precisely!

Good for Belle, don’t want her getting caught at all.

The Legally Blonde films have plenty to say about a girl with, & I quote: "A French manicure & a Harvard law degree" (quote from the second film where she goes to DC)

stockhold syndrome? or female hybristophilia and the fantasy/desire to "tame the Beast".... ?

This is a good point. I liked how in the animated version the town thought she was pretty but weird, versus the live action version where they just didn't like her.

I love the lead in for the scene. The prologue ends on "Who could ever love a beast?" and the camera pans to the answer.

Aw that’s so beautiful!

Yes. I think I read somewhere that when they were designing Belle, they didn’t want her to know how pretty she was. Like that doesn’t matter to her.

I think it also adds to how elusive & mysterious she appears to the townspeople.

@@the_glitter_is Yeah. We get their perception of her before we meet Belle herself.

You raise two great points there! It certainly does give a more sinister and simultaneously desperate impression of Gaston.

These 2 points are very important for the time period in question.

To a man like Gaston, a wife is the ultimate trophy, a possession. Other men will respect your ownership when she's a wife, not necessarily when she's a girlfriend. How many times has a woman said "I have a boyfriend" and a man replied "He doesn't have to know". Tell him "I'm married.", and he's much more likely to back off. Belle is the most beautiful, so of course he wants her to be the mother of his children so they too, will be the most beautiful as well.

Facts even in relationships now, marriage is seen as the final goal of success. Like getting "that job" thinking you made it. Only to get fired at random, told when to come & go when to take a vacation, needing a doctor's note etc. Marriage is a contract, limitations, restrictions, some freedoms disguised as "love" care, etc.

Also it plays in a time where people got married to produce heirs, so that they have a pension plan. And being a woman with children but without husband was shameful.

Love your name and profile pic

I was cracking up! I'm also here for it.

Is your name a ref to alr

I wanna see him as Merida with beautifull, thick, unruly, red hair 😂

@@bettycharms Yes :D

It's sad when there's one dumb ass article with strong enough presentation based on someone's assumption from watching 10 seconds of the film and people buy it and don't bother forming their own opinion on the matter.

Totally agreed. I never knew that was even a perspective people had until now.

Oh my god, how did I not catch that?

@@anib8863 I didn’t get it either until I watched/listened to the director’s commentary a while back. 😂 I would highly recommend it!

Why do you explain why you edited your own post?

@@Alice-sj9or Because, sometimes, people see that my comment was edited & never know what it was previously. I like saying what I edited (usually for grammatical things). 🤷‍♀️

@@chelnahtheegghead hmmm, interesting, thanks for your reply! I personally often edit my posts because I always find small typos here and there after I post them, and I don't really care what others may think... 🙃 I've been working on my people pleasing issues for years - glad to see some patters (like explaining my own actions to other people) finally dissolved.

If you watched Once Upon A Time did you like that version of Belle?

@@rahbeeuh I did not, unfortunately. Do you think they stayed true to her essence?

Ok. I got the Gaston harrassment part, but that part how she navigates the town went over my head. I legit thought it was an awesome trick, which I tried to do that back when I was a kid walking around in school. I didn't try to cross the road or walk home doing it, I wasn't stupid. I made sure to do it on school grounds, away from people playing sports and in areas with very low traffic.

Wife= ownership, especially in that time period

Very well put

Does medieval period had concept of girlfriend? There's courting or flirting but not really a status of girlfriend. Any women that's not wife its free for all at that time.

he doesn't skip any day other than maybe bath day, especially for his feet :P

And I wanna throw in there Ariel cause I think she gets more flack than she deserves.

Yes, please! Cinderella is a prisoner who uses all the freedom she has to the fullest, and Snow White is literally a refugee. Nobody ever SEES this!!!

Exactly 💯. I hate when people say bs like Cinderella is antifeminist or whatever. Cinderella is a young girl who has been abused from childhood and still managed to keep her creativity, kindness and sense of self despite horrible people trying to crush her every day. That's a real world problem and surviving it intact takes strength

Let’s face it, most Disney princesses pre-tangled get dismissed by random people just to either invalidate young girls (similar to everything girls like, eg. Boy bands) or to “raise” remakes and the “girlboss/women can only be written one way” narrative

@@breezy3392 You know the only people who are talking shit about these type of movies are Twitter users and journalists who will type any article for attention.

OH GOD. Thanks for the war flash back XD

I was cracking up because belle's reaction goes perfectly

@@njmoonfrost6145 🤣🤣🤣🤣

They are definitely on the chaotic end of the alignment chart lol

True. But the beast was only 11 years old, so her punishing him for being a spoiled pre teen is pretty fucked up. But the same with maleficient!

Was it ever established that she was a fairy? The movie says she's an enchantress, which leads me to think she's some variety of witch.

@@Sharay98 To be fair, witches in the old Grimm Tales acted much like how malevolent fae acted. I'd say same rules apply.

@@SusanaCanales1 and that's a generous interpretation. More accurately, she cursed an 11 year old for not inviting a stranger into his home without his parents' permission.

Isn't it provincial life?

Those songwriters were genius. The loss of Howard Ashman just sucks.

@@McCammalot Def! I love that he didn't want to send the song out, he was convinced Disney would hate it bc it's so long

You've got the castle's population. Then you've got the castle's staff (including both a figurative and a literal army). Then you have their familes. All told, the blast radius on that curse could've easily been thousands of people.

If they shortened the curse to 3 years he's be 18 at the time. Quite an oversight. You can see in the stained glass they depicted him in an adult's body, so I'll just assume that for a brief moment they sucked at math lol

Plus I'm willing to bet that they had royal guests that brought along their personal servants, both of which had families as well.

@@HexenkoeniginVonAngmar People really tend to underestimate just how many people there can be involved in late-medieval to early-modern logistics, and just how many people could latch onto the logistical chain. Something as simple as an army would have a convoy of cooks, doctors, armourers, and other assorted servants following behind it. This could also be followed by a SECOND convoy composed of just about anybody who was either headed in the same direction or was looking to score a business opportunity with the army.

Most if not all the princesses have loving parents, most of them are just dead

I think it's important that her mother is gone as well; women spread so much of the toxic social expectations to each other and other girls, even though we should know better, in the name of "keeping them safe from predators" or "making their social lives easier" that Belle's slightly out of touch father made her both somewhat parentified (not a good thing but sometimes useful) and less feminine in her approach to people, etc. Maurice would have been cultured the way men of their time were; Belle was then cultured at home the way men of her time were, and was told "Girls do X" by those villagers as a secondary or tertiary reinforcer, with far less power over her than her father.

@@rebeccahahn6172 yesss

True, that happened with my little cousin. She was dating this guy and after putting up with his nonsense for a while, she realized that she didn't have to because she watched her parents and saw they're better relationship. So she was like "I don't have to put up with this" and ditched him.

@@TazHall Is she happy now? Is he completely out of her life now? :o

Isn't it a red flag that a person would be comparing themselves to animated characters? Let alone a narcissistic animated character?

@@rahbeeuh oh this man had SO many problems. I was only friends with him because he knew all of my other friends and was involved in a lot of the same things I was involved with. This was just the most relevant problem lmao Don't worry, he no longer has access to me - i cut him off a long time ago.

@@calebgabriel3278 good thing. Sometimes people like that can be dangerous. Take care.

@@rahbeeuh it’s ok if it’s a joke, but the way she describes it is a red flag for aure

@@rahbeeuh I think it’s a bigger red flag when someone compares themself to a villain. Seriously, did this guy fall asleep while watching the movie?

There is Stockholm Syndrome in the movie and Lefou is the one who suffers it: -Lefou is constantly mistreated by Gaston and Lefou not only returns to Gaston, but also enables and justifies his behavior. Lefou is completely dominated by Gaston to the point he doesn't even have a will of his own anymore.

@@jorgebersabe293 interesting! It's the Minion complex.

SS honestly needs to be redefined and renamed, it’s so inaccurate to what actually happened in the original incident.

@@jorgebersabe293 My guess on the psychological side is that Lefou is known as Gaston's servant, and so no one notices him outside that. Gaston, by treating him awfully as a servant, ends up giving him the most attention, and thus becomes the person Lefou looks to for everything. As seen in studies, when put in an environment where everyone around you is saying something confidently--even if it's wrong--people will change their own mind to match; we need social support. That's probably why Lefou doesn't notice his mistreatment and instead focuses on Gaston. I'm probably reading too much into this... 😅

@@jorgebersabe293 yeah even if the kid when I watch the animated version after Gaston threw LeFou into the mud saying that "he would have bell for his wife make no mistake about that" I responded with why does LeFou hang out with this jerk? It's one of the reasons why I don't hate the live action version as much as everybody else does because it actually does bring in some good things that kind of redeem some elements of the original. In that version with who actually why is this up trying to treat Gaston like a friend rather than his master but when he sees what kind of a man Gaston really is and he actually end up leaving him and actually does help fight alongside the enchanted objects. LeFou even saved Mrs Potts life