Ben 10 X Julie: How to WASTE a Character 

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The in canon reason they had to be broken up... Not causing a time paradox, so Kenny Tennyson could be born. It took me so long to get over it, and this video reminded me why I mad in the first place.

No kidding, this is one of the changes I hated the most about the whole franchise

I really hope you cover Kevin and Gwen. Watching the tough guy, Kevin, awkwardly try to get closer to Gwen even after she’s directly told him she wants a relationship is priceless.

"Where every girl in the show wants to get into Ben's pants until fate tells him to settle for the worst one." As a person who dislikes Kai that line made my day.

I liked them a lot, and knowing they were split just because the writers wanted to do something new really ticked me off. They couldn’t even do it organically? Man.

Indeed! Julie wasn't the BEST character, but the poor girl didn't deserve to be thrown out like a used tissue. Besides, the only other viable female character Ben could be shipped with was his own cousin!

I for one have always found Julie to be such an underrated character, and the fact that they made it so Ben and Julie broke up in the Omniverse series kinda sucked , but in hindsight Julie was always too good for Ben anyway so i guess in a way it was a good thing that they broke up...at least that's how i see it.

It's not abusive, but it sure is unhealthy.

I'm glad you mentioned how so many of the franchises's issues came from corporate meddling, I love ben 10 and I do believe every main series has worth (the classic series speaks for itself, first 2 season of AF being just straight up a masterpiece in my opinion, season 3... had Rath and he's epic, Ultimate alien has some of the best one off episodes in the entire series like ultimate sacrifice + Kevin's mutated arc being great, and Omniverse's art style, overhaull writting and one off episodes being fun even with the slip ups and does have some genuine great comedy, and Ben's story involving Feedback was great and I loved the resolution of the Malware arc) as well as many flaws, but the main issue was always Cartoon network fucking constantly with the franchise and not letting the writters do what they wanted to do, like cancelling an entire planned third season of alien force, which is the main reason why season 3 is the way it

Also, WHAT IS HER CHARACTER DESIGN?! Her previous one was GORGEOUS.

Honestly even the joke breakup could have worked if Ben and Julie could have had a real conversation later on in the episode. Have it so that Julie realized after thinking about it for five minutes that Ben wasn't actually mad at her, but that his outburst made her realize that she hadn't been happy in their relationship for a long time. That way, Ben has the chance to realize that he fucked up.

Julie joining a cult actually would make some sense. Cults don't go after "dumb" people. They go after vulnerable people. They try to enlist people who are ostracized, alone and have no one else. Granted I doubt this cult worked like an actual cult but cults use manipulation tactics like abusive partners do. People falling for them doesn't make them dumb. That just makes the person enlisting them capable of saying all the right things.

honestly, if they had taken even a single moment to think of something worthwhile for Julie, she would have been amazing. I remember always liking Julie a lot, and it would have been amazing to see her slowly evolve into a main character, using Ship regularly on missions with the group. She’s already a complete sweetheart, Kevin and Gwen both like her a lot, and she’s literally Ben’s GF… if they gave her some agency and treated her like an actual character instead of a prop, she’d probably be a wider fan favorite easily

Ben and Julie fought all the time so I didn't necessarily mind the break up if it had been over an argument instead of basically a joke. Honestly romance with Ben in Omniverse kind of suck and I say that as a fan of the series. Like they decided to get him with Kai pretty much because it was supposed to be a thing in the original series despite the fact that she'd only shown up in one episode of the original show prior to Omniverse and even in Omniverse she was only in like four or five episodes. Like if they were so set on Kai I'm still not sure why she wasn't just the third to Ben and Rook.

What really irritated me was the fact Julie was the one that convinced Ben to give up the ultimate power, the ability to wipe out evil in the universe. He cared for her enough to listen and be convinced by her, but the next time we see her they've broken up off screen. I mean come on seriously? At least give us a decent scene.

Poor Juile had so much disrespect in this show. Love Ben 10

I don’t know which I hate more, Ben’s character assassination or how unceremoniously his relationship with Julie ended. I know one thing for certain, though: executive meddling did nothing but hurt this franchise.

I hated how they did Julie dirty. They so could've given them chemistry by having Julie seem like this cool, sporty girl, but she's also secretly a massive conspiracy nut. They could've had her be the one following Ben's escapades so that when Ben reveals his secret identity she doesn't freak out but is instead ecstatic to meet the central person of alien conspiracy. And I don't mean in a creepy way, but when Jetray saves her she could subvert the expectation of being disgusted or horrified by inspecting Jetray's wings, his tail, his horns, all while asking a million questions that Ben hasn't even thought of about his aliens. Then when his identity is revealed, it turns out Jimmy Jones was someone Julie knew on 4chan or something, tying her into the plot.

Your line at 0:20 sums up exactly how I feel about the whole thing. I can already tell this'll be a banger. EDIT: Watched the whole thing. You ended it just as well as you started. The fact Ben never tried to call her back is very aggravating. Great video!

I focused on Gwen and Kevin’s relationship throughout but Julie, she deserved better. Nuff said.

Julie is my favorite character. I know she's boring, but I really liked how she was this one normal aspect in Ben's life. Could have told some profound stories about either letting go of someone who can't fit in your life as a superhero, or how it's important to retain normalcy despite all the extraordinary and alien things that go on in your life. I imagine it would have been a Lois Lane/Mary Jane-type thing. Which I know can be over done, but definitely could be executed with good writing. Like everyone else, I'm not mad they didn't end up together. I'm mad they didn't try to use their relationship in a meaningful way. As much as it pains me to say, her character is just unimportant to Ben 10.

Can we just point out that the best thing to come out of the Ben 10 sequel series is Kevin. The dood has a functioning relationship with Gwen, gets some really good moments and is genuinely funny.

The fact that how they broke up in omnivers was so forgettable just shows how little care they had but to be honest no one really cared about this ship kewn/given was what everyone cared about

Kevin and Gwen watching Ben's relationship fall apart episode by episode: ☕ 🗿

Lets be honest, they did EVERYONE dirty eventually. Every couple seasons the show would change creative teams and shove everything fromm before under the rug. Like when they grew up and they made the world *less* interesting by removing magic and making it just alien powers. (Sorry Gwen.) Or later when Gwen and Kevin just sort of got shoved off with "we have our own lives at college now. BYE." Or how Max was treated... even title character Ben went all over the place in terms of design and personality as it went.

One of the dirtiest things they did to Julie in Omniverse was those pigtails

They did Juile so dirty that it sucks so much.

The girl made so that hopefully fans would stop shipping Ben with his cousin like the show takes place in Alabama.

"The worst part of this moment, is that it is in character" Thank you for bringing that up! I personally don't hate how OV broke them up because I was never invested in it to begin with, but it was also in character for that to happen, at least for UA Ben and it's just something no one talks about when in a discussion about it I honestly wished that Julie would've dumped his ass hardcore in UA (More specifically 'The Perfect Girlfriend'), but I was fine with what we got since it obviously wasn't going anywhere and I was tired by that point. Not only did Julie deserve more episodes, but she deserved better episodes as well Something else I fully appreciate is that you brought up how many main plot points in their relationship happen off screen, as I feel like that's not talked about enough either. Like, why would I care about it when I never got to see it in the first place?? That just makes me more apathetic lmao This is a wonderful breakdown of the biggest relationship in Ben 10, and I can't wait to see more!! You've done a great job, mate!!

I love Ben, but I hate what they did to his character. Just straight up assassinated his character. My favorite episodes of Ultimate Alien and Omniverse are the ones where he acts like he did in Alien Force. Also my favorite ship is Ben x Rook because I swear Rook is the only person who Ben actually tries to grow as a person for.

I agree, Julie was done BAD mostly due to studio interference. The ship in B10 is obviously Gwen x Kevin because they're the real rock that the show is built on. What I have negative to say about early omniverse is mostly nitpicks, a retcon or two I don't like and the fact that they're not around until late into the Khyber arc.

I definitely prefer Julie to Kai! The writers really went out of their way to push those two together! Hell, I would have preferred Ben and Atea together.

Don't worry guys Julie probably ended up with someone who actually respects her. She deserved better than Ben anyway

This video brought to light how after the Ship episode, Julie is just there. Everything leading up to the relationship was fine, but I genuinely forgot as a kid that they were a thing. I only cared about the Ship episodes with Julie because Ship was cool and I liked Julie for that. Then I never cared about Ultimate Alien because it felt like a step backwards from Alien Force. I never stayed long to watch their relationship deteriorate, but I noticed how lifeless Julie felt as a character. If the writers just put her back to being a background character, nothing would have changed to me. The end of their relationship is just sad and it just shows the writers truly stopped caring about her entirely. Your points are right. Asides from Gwen and Kevin, the only other good ship is Ship. Because he’s a good boy.

I rewatched all of Ben 10 about a year ago, and yes I hated how they ended the ship. I will say this is also a ship I went from liking to hating. It was never a favorite, but it was nice to see Ben have a relationship. Note that this was only during the first 2 seasons of Alien force before everything went off the rails with Ben's character.

I remember dropping Ben10 alien force after seeing how Ben treats Julie. Even me 11/12 years old could understand he didn't deserve her.

I'm pretty indifferent with Julie, but I find she's a better character than Kai imo

"GET AWAY FROM ME YOU WICKED SHE-BEAST!!! This thing isn't just working anymore...!" *End call* ... *THE HELL WAS THAT?!* I couldn't hold a laugh despite how serious and unfair Ben was to Julie 🤣

I think the problem is they don't know how Ben should change after the original series, so thery're a bit confused and if you don't know what your main character is supposed to be like, any relationships, not just romantic ones, will also be writen without direction

It's worth noting that the staff was actually very similar going from UAF to OV. Yes Dwayne McDuffie sadly passed away before production started in full, but the two Story Editors who replaced him were his best friend (Matt Wayne) and his wife (Charlotte Fullerton). On top of that, many of the writers, directors and animators from UAF also returned. Even the late Derrick J Wyatt had done freelance work on UAF before becoming the lead art director for OV.

The Ben character assassination kills me every time

I think you just answered why people like them so much. People love this ship cause it’s one of those rare instances where a couple just skips past the televised bullshit. And tbh, sometimes a boring ass relationship is refreshing considering how show writers don’t understand romance.

Ben Ten, as a series, was a show that I WANTED to love so much. I think there’s a lot of cool things about it but I just couldn’t STAND the main character. I feel like I wasted time waiting for a character arc that was well set up. People have pointed out how it makes sense for the praise to go to his head and he’d develop bad coping mechanisms for his stress and the pressure he’s under, and I agree, but then the arc NEVER COMES! The writers just keep doubling down on him being an ass. I’m reminded of that Todd Chavez speech to Bojack right before he moves out. That you can’t just do bad things, feel guilty, admit you were a jerk and then keep doing bad things. You have to be better. There comes a point where it’s not just screwing up a bunch of times. It’s you CHOOSING to BE a screw up. And I REALLY wish someone gave Ben a speech like that. And for it to have stuck

I can't believe how bad the writers dropped the ball with them. It hurt so much as a huge Ben 10 fan.

As a marvel fan this is a very similar issue I've had with Spider-Man and I absolutely love Spider-Man, but like Ben 10, the creators never allow the characters to grow up, Ben at 15 to 18 years old or Spider-Man out of college act like their still kids, tbh the "problems" that these characters suffer are a creation of their own doing, I wanna see my characters grow explores new roads and interest, and yes maybe Julie and Ben still break up or maybe mj ultimately leaves Peter but you don't have to make them regress to break up because that doesn't come off as cool it's embarrassing plus Ben ends up with that Kaya girl and I hated her

I AM HERE FOR THE MIRACULOUS SHADE

I felt so bad for Julie she DID NOT DESERVE THAT

I cannot wait for the video on Kevin and Gwen. Those two honestly made Alien Force/Ultimate Alien for me. Namely Kevin. Julie really did deserve better than Ben or the show treated her. Honestly it might've been better for him to just stay single or move between multiple relationships.

I preferred Julie and Ester as love interests rather who the show ended up pairing Ben with Kai. Julie put up with a bunch of Ben's stuff, she was quick to pace things together when Ben needed her help, she actually helped him with mutilple situations that he couldn't do alone or with gwen and kevin along side with him. As for ester, she was perfect for him because she actually enjoyed helping him out on missions and fighting bad guys, she had the same level of immaturity that ben had that created good chemistry between them, and lastly she was there for ben when he Julie left him for that European photographer and was a loyal to him. Then there is Kai, a character that i think should have stayed as a filler character back in the og series. It felt like someone saw her in the og series and said hey lets bring her back and have ben end up with her even though she never expressed any actual feelings for him and broke his heart when she told him he only liked him for his benwolf form and viewed him as him as a pet.

See, the thing that I don't like about the airport scene is the fact that Julie literally doesn't have to take a plane. She could just have Ship take her. But yeah, Ben trying to drag Julie with him was dumb and so was Gwen trying to hide the villain report. The whole thing was just forced drama.

Julie's a pretty good character for Ben. Someone who's smart in school and supportive of the team. If she grew to be both his support and learn the possibilities of Galvanian Mecamorph powers she'd be admirable. She would've become a great character in the long run. All while being a normal high school girl who likes tennis. I blame corporate manipulation.

To paraphrase the RU-vidr Billiam, Ben is a bit of an asshole. To me that is more or less why the reason the relationship doesnt work, Julie was was also just more mature then him but cared too much about him not to end things sooner and be tougher. And not in the same way Gwen was more mature than Kevin, because Kevin learns from Gwen she inspires him to not just do better but be better in almost every aspect of his life. In turn Gwen learns from Kevin about how she doesnt need to perfect and is good enough how she already is, they balance each other. But with Ben and Julie however... Ben only learns what he does wrong in the moment and makes up for it in the moment, but he never really improves beyond that. And Julie never really learns anything from Ben not because she is too up tight or proper or anything like that, she is more than capable of having fun and enjoying herself just like Ben does, but she is just matured past that point of always playing the fool like Ben does. Edit: Regarding Invincible since you brought it up in the video. It is kinda crazy how a bit similar that situation is with this, or more so some peoples reaction to said situation. From the main character screwing up, his two friends (Gwen and Kevin/ William and Eve) and the love interest telling him just do X instead of Y to not screw up, him not listening, and then people blaming the love interest for his own personal faults. Its not a complete 1:1, Julie is not completely Amber and Mark is not Ben, but still the reaction and where the blame was placed in both situations is insane.

Kevin really is peak character

The healthiest relationship as far as I remember was Bevin, but that may be my rainbow tinted glasses.

God they did Julie so dirty, felt so bad for her.

They should’ve made the break up more impactful to bens life. When kai returns, Ben should’ve been a little resentful to her because of her rejection towards him in the original season. Have him not be interested in any relationships for the first few seasons of omniverse. Maybe have him date ester in season 4. Maybe they break up towards the end of season 7, realizing they just don’t click. Then maybe have him start to develop feelings toward kai, but decide to not act upon them for a while. Maybe have him decide to actually upon them around the same time in canon

Yes! I completely agree! Julie was a fine generic girlfriend character, but she was wasted on Ben especially after his character growth got thrown out the window. I liked Julie and the fact that she would at least try to fend for herself and fight back at times against villains and that she got along with Gwen and Kevin, but she needed more time AND development as a fully fledge character. For me it was obvious that she was going to be Ben's 1st girlfriend and not his endgame even before his personality changed. I didn't feel any chemistry between them at all. However, once Ben started acting like jerk and it was solidified as his forever canon personality, I was waiting for them to break up because even I was tired of Ben at that point. He didn't even TRY to put in enough effort in the relationship and when Gwen and Kevin take Julie's side in almost every fight, you either do better or you don't. Honestly if he was going to continue to act like a narcissist then I wouldn't want him to get with anyone. Just be the lone superhero doing what he does best and not worry about anyone. Let him have his harem for all I care. Kevin and Gwen were always the better ship anyway.

Julie is basically a female Yugioh Love interest. Hardly used and like a female yugioh love interest's voice actress joins a cult Also, even the smartest people join cults because all it takes is one once of doubt or you're being at your lowest moment to accept any form of emotional reassurance even if its from a group of strangers. the show could have had her forgive Ben but show inside Julie is torn up about how unsupportive Ben is and she can't let him go so she takes the BS with a smile and then it all suddenly pops Or Better explain Julie joining cus she sees Ben is just a child with Alien Tech and could have saved the world from Alien/Earth BS by now and she is using the cult as a way to vent her frustration with Ben, his job as a hero and how selfish he is. Even then the show doesn't add that

I love your ship analysis videos. You manage to put into words so many of the frustrations and the positives of so many different ships in shows. Think you could ever do a video on some of the disastrous shipping in Danny Phantom? Oooor maybe talk about Tiger & Bunny? Cause by god, I want more people to talk about this show so damn bad 😩

Julie is like the 180 other extreme of Amber. Amber is too stubborn and unwilling to listen while Julie is too quick to forgive and is shown to be too perfect.

“Video game NPC’s get more screen time than Julie.” As a Genshin player it hurts a lot more than for normal players

Oh the secret identity plot point, thank god. I think out of the countless shows and movies I've seen (not counting all the spiderman stories), I can think of 2 that were good. Spy x Family, which gets it on a technicality because it doesn't really mess with their relationships, and Jem and The Holograms, because Rio is straight-up cheating on his girlfriend with her alternate identity which is a fun way to take it, esp since he likely wasn't endgame. It is such a refresher to cut to the chase, but this really is sad that it just got boring instead of frustrating.

Honestly? The shipping of the show was nah. I wasn’t feeling Kevin and Gwen, and ALL of Ben’s relationships were problematic.

Ben is like some sort of reverse Peter Parker when it comes to dating Julie

I honestly feel like bens characterization in omniverse is his best. He's not Annoying and immature like in the classic or narcissistic, but he is experienced enough in hero work and "saving the universe" that while he takes his job seriously he just likes to have fun with it. And because he does it so often its not like a big thing for him so he's not narcissistic

I think the main problem with Ben and Julie throughout AF and UAF was that their relationship kinda happened way to early on so the writers just couldn't think of anything interesting to do with them, other than make them go back and forth like every episode and it sucks because Julie really is a good character IMO. I wish she would've become a more active member of team Tennyson, fighting the DNAliens because then you could give her some spotlight and development, as well as banter with the other characters. She could further develop her romance with Ben, she could become closer friends with Gwen, hell you could have and Kevin have some kinda buddy relationship for all I care but they don't do any of that. She's basically only useful or presents whenever A) they need Ship or he's the main focus or B) the episode is about her and Ben's relationship going back and forth. It's not even like she's a damsel in distress because she's proven that she can also fight, it's that she's more used as a plot device than an actual character, which doesn't do her justice. They just add salt onto the wound when they reintroduce her in OV, just to have her and Ben break up through a joke flashback.

I think the worst part was how they ended up "breaking up" Which is to say a stupid fucking "Character says something to the tv and other Character thinks they were talking to them" trope

You'd think that after Ship could become power armor for Julie, they'd have her join in on Ben's Adventures. But that just was too crazy I guess.

When Ben and Julie broke up, and when Ultimate Alien was replaced by that utter piece of blasphemy that was Omniverse.. childhoods all over the world died. I'm not even American.

I always wanted them to give Julie more to do with Ship. She has the ultimate tech suit! Why didn't they play with that! Make it so ship doesn't like anyone but Julie, so anytime they need ship to travel to space or whatever, she HAS to come along. I mean, she also needed to be more interesting, but that could have happened if she was allowed to tag along more. She's obviously athletic and smart. There were ways they could have made her a badass that didn't seem goofy.

And somehow they managed to an even worse job with Ester. I actually like Omniverse a lot, but I HATE the whole thing of Ben "having" to be with Kai because it was "destiny" even more than I hate Kai herself.

"when Ben gets knocked up" I think this gets glossed over way too hard, this show legit has teen pregnancy in it

After sitting through this whole video and seeing everyone say everything that could be said, I only have one question left. What would have happened if Cartoon Network never forced the series to take the direction that would stick with it permanently? At least I can't help but wonder so considering that the main reason this video exists in the first place is because of that one infamous decision that screwed everything.

I haven’t watched Omniverse but I will say it was pretty weird how Kai just kind of shows back up after being gone for years, I’ve heard of Ken but his existence could be hand waved away by time travel shenanigans.

As a writer and explorer of Ben 10 fanfics, I actually prefer to avoid get caught up in debates about whether the cannon pair works perfectly or not. However I was strongly invested in the idea of Ben having a girlfriend on Alien Force but Julie didn't click for me. Of course it's interesting to see how others view her character. Also I liked the analysis a lot. You've definitely given me a small window of how to better write Ben in my future crossovers. So thank you for that. I like crossover ships more since they give me more chances to use my imagination. I've been tinkering with an idea about Ben dating Dreama from Sabrina the Teenage witch. I'm definitely going to try and make this a relationship people can get more invested in. I also do want to say that I don't mind when Ben acts a little Stupid as a teen but there should be a limit to it in my opinion. I thank you for helping with my inspiration.

This relationship was really put through the wringer, here's a idea for a relationship that would be perfect for him: Albedo. His whole life is about aliens, he looks like him which feeds into his narcissistic side and at least the dysfunctional part would make sense, you can't be around someone like yourself for too long without it turning a fight. So, it works for him perfectly

I'll be honest, I completely forgot who she was.

I didn't even knew she existed until this video lol. Shows how little impact she had on the fandom

"producers says they wanted to do different things , the girls are the different things" yeah thats one way to put it , honestly my feelings have been answered this is what i felt when watching this show then after that i kind of dropped it.

They should have made Julie officially a Galactic Plumber.

Can't lie, this ship reeked of meddling "just because she's too cliche." Ben was a lot of things but for some reason they regressed his character whenever it came to that relationship. Anything else in the show, he was a teenager growing up and coming into his, you could see the buds of his manhood and leadership slowly take shape and growing: assertive, decisive, sometimes reckless but well meaning, etc. But with Julie? He was basically ten years old again and I never quite understood why they felt the need have him as such. Don't even get me started on all the pseudo cheating he was doing, it felt like such an odd fit and contrast for him to be so cavalier as far as all of that, especially considering how loyal he was to his friends and family.

This relationship was actually my favorite out of every love interests Ben had. They had their ups and downs showing they were just like other couple and not some perfect couple They got into fights but always forgave each other which makes their break up even worse for me Their first date is still one of my favorite episodes in the show

With Julie joining a cult and especially since they pointed out that it’s out of character that could have been foreshadowing for her being secretly undercover just to try to stop them. Maybe she could have just been investigating to see if there is something bad going on

I'm starting a petition to have this man's name changed to "Sarcastic Shakespeare"; he is just too good with words. Who's in?

listen I love Omniverse, but to this day I can't get over the shere character assassination they pulled on my girl

I liked the idea of Julie. The creators chose the lazy way out.

24:11 the only reason i remember that episode is because in the LatAmerican dub all the background characters were voice by the same guy and it was super obvious.

Dude compared to all the other love interests Julie was the best it's just sad Ben didn't realize what he had

“So uh, guys everyone keeps shipping Ben and Gwen because she’s the only female character we made and that’s uh, causing problems with people google searching the IP to buy the toys. We need you to add a new female character as a love interest so they’ll make rule34 of them instead.” “Alright fine, but we really don’t want to!”

I honestly liked the ship, but I can't say I didn't agree with you that they didn't do much with Julie in the series, it's a shame tbh, lots of potential with Julie, but sadly squandered away and Ben turning to a jerk in season 3. I legit want Ben 10 to be a loved franchise, but CN seems to hide this franchise and not supported unless they use it for money, I love all the show throughout the franchise, but sad it'll probably never reach that potential to be better

Omniverse has so many bad things. My favorite scene of the whole series is the one with capitan nemesis, because it is when he realizes how bad he has been acting since he got famous, alien force was good in terms of how he acted, i liked the dynamics in that version better than every other version, and even in that version it is seen that the relationship doesn't work because Ben is unsuited for a relationship, ultimate alien was a downgrade on his personality, but that episode is the top of my list, because you know he is pissed without anyone saying anything, you know he is not taking anyone's shit at that point. Edit: the scene is since he arrives at the tower and until he catches Julie

And they didn't even bother finishing the Elena thing!

I remember watching this episode, and let me tell y'all, this made me a bit heartbroken since I have bene shipping Ben and Julie since Alien Force. Why the hell did they did that to the fans. 💔

Okay for some reason I remembered the blond alien girl to have taken Ben's DNA, and the blond hair came from his mom's side of the family. I don't know why I remembered it that way

0:10 Yeah hated this series because of this moment ominverse is a interesting season and I liked other episodes but this will always be a reason why I also hate this season

22:41 It wasn't Gwen's DNA, it was just a sample of Human DNA that was scrambled and rewritten for Eunice. Gwen does not have her own special DNA and Eunice isn't related to Ben at all. I don't even ship them, I'm just tired of hearing this

Truthfully I'd prefer Ben ending up with Julie or even the Frog Princess, heck, even Charmcaster or the Omnitrix with Gwen's DNA, over Kai as whenever I think of Ben and Kai, the Werewolf episode from the original series is front and center.

Jesus, this screams 'Toxic relationship'...

The writers could have had them have a normal, health break up, but instead they decided to make a joke.