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element14.com/tbhs - Ben decides to take on another retro 8-bit computer project and builds an Apple 1 from scratch. He wires the CPU, ROM, and RAM to a PCB and adds some logic gates for memory addressing. With this basic 6502 computer complete, he uses an oscilloscope to take a look at what the CPU is doing. The digital data shows that the 6502 is functional and Ben can move on to the next step.
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@sk8lie
@sk8lie 8 лет назад
Wait... Woz did breakout.. Jobs just got the credit. Man, why cant the world give Woz the credit he deserves.
@ScottBeebiWan
@ScottBeebiWan 8 лет назад
+Leon Moody Well, Steve Jobs documentary. Now they know.
@HockeyCrab
@HockeyCrab 8 лет назад
Because Stevie is the CEO
@sirmeme1135
@sirmeme1135 6 лет назад
Well its not to late; Woz is alive ,unlike Jobs (He's dead.).
@metroiddude123
@metroiddude123 9 лет назад
LOTS of inaccuracies about Steve Jobs' contribution to the development of the Apple I and Breakout. The short version of the real story is: Steve Wozniak is a genius of an electronics engineer who built (arguably) the first modern PC. He also hung out with a guy named Steve Jobs whose talents lay in business and marketing, and who once cheated him out of of some money after single-handedly developing Breakout for Atari (and as a favor to Jobs). Otherwise, good video.
@OtakuNoShitpost
@OtakuNoShitpost 9 лет назад
The story I heard had Jobs doing the busy work for breakout (such as wiring and soldering) while the Woz did more of the design aspect. And Jobs only cheated him out of the bonus for getting under 50 chips iirc.
@larsvargstrand6749
@larsvargstrand6749 9 лет назад
No, Steve Jobs really tricked him of a lot of money. Steve Jobs claimed the Breakout game gave 1400 dollars that they would split equal, but they really got 5000 dollars. So Jobs gave Wozniak 700 dollars and kept 4300 dollars for himself. Also, Steve Jobs only helped with inserting the components on the bread board.
@twjung
@twjung 7 лет назад
Jobs wasn't asked to design Breakout. Nolan Bushnell had already designed it but it used a lot of chips and was going to be expensive. So Bushnell offered Jobs a huge bonus if he could improve its flagship arcade game, "Breakout" - specifically, a bonus of $100 for each TTL chip removed from the design at a time when arcade games typically used around 170 chips. Jobs bragged that he could do it no problem, but ended up going to Woz to redo the design. He told Woz he only got $700, giving Woz $350, for it when in reality he was paid $5000.
@sirmeme1135
@sirmeme1135 6 лет назад
That is 110% correct.
@joshcopeland
@joshcopeland 6 лет назад
Steve Jobs was a HUGE douchebag! All hail the great and powerful Woz!
@jastervoid
@jastervoid 9 лет назад
Singing the montage song is so much better than an actual montage. Thanks, Ben! Made my day.
@atariman72
@atariman72 8 лет назад
"MONITER". I laughed.
@MichielHaisma
@MichielHaisma 9 лет назад
Great way to show off how you can get really close to the digital signals on a bus, and really connect the programming and the electrical side of this story. I'm definitely staying tuned for part 2!
@crosenblum
@crosenblum 9 лет назад
This brings back so many memories. My first computer was the Apple ][+. This build means so much nostalgia to me. Thank you so much!
@PascalSignifica
@PascalSignifica 9 лет назад
The day has come! I've been waiting so long for this video :D
@TheRealObiWahn
@TheRealObiWahn 9 лет назад
Awesome. I really liked the Z80 build, so I'm stoked to see that you take such a project again.
@lnxcthlc
@lnxcthlc 9 лет назад
Great configuration of wiring on the back of the processor board. Very pleasing to the iBall.
@tHaH4x0r
@tHaH4x0r 9 лет назад
finally a proper electronics project. You get my thumbs up ben.
@scaredfolks5923
@scaredfolks5923 6 лет назад
Mind blown. I work in IT but now I feel like I just spent a year in an Engineering course but it has only been 20 minutes. Thank you for being a great teacher I never was able to understand most of this stuff until I watched your content! I am going to build a PI into a mechanical keyboard and make a new age commodore 64.
@SimmeringPotpourri
@SimmeringPotpourri 9 лет назад
What a great project. One of Ben's best!!
@JaredConnell
@JaredConnell 8 лет назад
great video I was just thinking of doing my own just like this and stumbled on this video. I'm surprised I never watched it before, I thought I'd seen almost every Ben heckler episode
@GothAlice
@GothAlice 8 лет назад
My gods, the wire-wrap prototype boards. The moment you started soldering breakout wires I started getting flashbacks. An Apple I is simple enough, but the Mac prototype boards were incomprehensible rats nests of glory; and choosing to use all black wires is straight baller, Ben. We don't need no labelling, here! XD
@RetrospillBlogspotNO
@RetrospillBlogspotNO 9 лет назад
This is such a great show! Thanks Ben Heck! :)
@brandon-butler
@brandon-butler 9 лет назад
Yes! This is the episode I always wanted after seeing the spectrum one :)
@jumhig
@jumhig 9 лет назад
Awesome interesting video Ben. Can't wait for part 2 :) I would love to try build an Applie I or 8-bit computer myself. Thanks for the inspiration. (PS: How much harder would it be to build an Apple II from scratch, or even upgrade your Apple I to an Apple II?)
@MichielHaisma
@MichielHaisma 9 лет назад
I love the skits. I'd just watch it for that, o no wait it gets even better!
@Existensmaximum
@Existensmaximum 9 лет назад
As usual, great and inspiring!
@arcadeuk
@arcadeuk 9 лет назад
This is more like it Ben! What a great project!
@snorman1911
@snorman1911 4 года назад
This us awesome. I never realized you could build something like this on a breadboard. As a software guy this just seems insanely messy and tedious! Can't wait to try it.
@teacherinthailan6441
@teacherinthailan6441 3 года назад
Great video! I really learnt a lot from it. Thanks.
@GenesisGameGenie
@GenesisGameGenie 9 лет назад
This was a really interesting video! I'm looking forward to the next one. Maybe when you're done, you can make a simple custom designed computer. Maybe something with a Z80, or even a 68K!
@MrKevinp0
@MrKevinp0 9 лет назад
Very interesting build Ben! Can't wait for part two. Also love the outtakes at the end of the video. How Alison could sit there with a straight face, I just don't know! I'd be busting up laughing every time! Great job as always!
@kylek29
@kylek29 9 лет назад
Built by the Woz and sold by Jobs.
@Kevinlevronee4820
@Kevinlevronee4820 3 года назад
United by the steves
@HammadAljeddani
@HammadAljeddani 9 лет назад
Awesome Video .. cant wait for the next part :)
@msuc5vette
@msuc5vette 9 лет назад
Cool project, after watching this, your Atari 800 videos, and the specky project it occurred to me that it would be a really sweet project if you could make an "ultimate" 8 bit computer and combine compatibility of the popular 8 bit machines that use the 6502 processor. Maybe they could share processor, ram, and other bits, but select which machine they run at power up somehow to then tap into the other unique chips that make them all different.
@einarabelc5
@einarabelc5 3 года назад
That Oscilloscope is ridiculously good looking. I don't know about the measurement stage but does it come with Matlab too?
@morise907
@morise907 9 лет назад
Hey Ben, i really like your videos thanks for making them and sharing so many great projects with us :) Could you please upload your schematics for your Apple 1 Replica? (Yeah i know that there are tons of schematics out there for apple1 replicas but i like this one here ). Would be really nice, thanks. :)
@TeodorD
@TeodorD 9 лет назад
Hello Ben, what kind of wires do you use for this project? single strand or multiple strand? what gauge. Thanks in advance;)
@MrTree1779
@MrTree1779 9 лет назад
This video (and others like it) is to computers, what woodworking is to furniture, or what animal husbandry is to groceries. As in: I get the general idea of what Ben Hack is doing, yet I have *no* idea how to do this myself. But I still appreciate watching skilled people go "old school", making rudimentary (and often more robust) versions of household items which I simply purchase at the store and expect to work as described. Barring the apocalypse and a reset of human progress, do we *need* do learn things like this anymore? Nope. But really do I respect people who can still grasp the basics.
@SerSyn
@SerSyn 9 лет назад
Items made by man always will be better than machine-man.
@MrTree1779
@MrTree1779 9 лет назад
I dunno. Hand-made things are great in their appropriate setting, but I do like my machine made devices much better than anything a human hand could comparably craft. Our modern world was built around interchangeable, high-tolerance machined things, and it's only through our modern world that we get RU-vid! :)
@jackhanson1852
@jackhanson1852 8 лет назад
+MrTree1779 what you're saying is true, however, with out hand made prototypes and human creativity, will we advance?
@Vynncent
@Vynncent 9 лет назад
Correction: It was Wozniak who did all of the stuff with the computers, Jobs was there for sales
@joshevans2857
@joshevans2857 9 лет назад
Hey Ben, could you post the documentation that you used to design and build this? Please it would be much appreciated as I'd love to make one and I'm unable to find anything online:( Thanks
@SamEvansCOM
@SamEvansCOM 7 лет назад
Where can you get the wires that are glued to the board(the flat ones with open metal and no insulation)
@andrewmccarter4678
@andrewmccarter4678 4 года назад
Do you have a schematic of the work you did, or are you just using the Apple 1's schematic from the user manual?
@ilaserbia
@ilaserbia 9 лет назад
Will you be making a schematic for this board so that we can connect it correctly?
@YF501
@YF501 8 лет назад
Even Ben Heck had a montage! Mooooooontaaaaaaageeeeeeee!
@gaming-zombie1392
@gaming-zombie1392 9 лет назад
Cool, the Apple 1 can't wait... Love Mac always...
@Leonelf0
@Leonelf0 9 лет назад
"Moniter"? :D By the way, why do you never use colored wire? that'd be great for distinguishing buses
@krystofmigdalski2921
@krystofmigdalski2921 8 лет назад
+Daniel Svegert you mean moneter
@DanielSvegert
@DanielSvegert 8 лет назад
Reptilian Brotherhood No, definitely not moneter.
@PCNeuverdrahter
@PCNeuverdrahter 9 лет назад
Hmm. Doesn't that memory layout stop you from overwriting the IRQ, NMI and RESET vectors (iirc last 6 bytes of adress space) ?
@nickhubbard3671
@nickhubbard3671 9 лет назад
At 5:12 you state there are 65535 bytes addressable. In fact there are 65536 [0..65535]. Please add some decouplers too! Thanks for your videos!
@xlar54
@xlar54 7 лет назад
"we didnt need a keyboard...we didnt need a display" but you did need a $10,000 oscilloscope ;) But nice work dude.
@CB3ROB-CyberBunker
@CB3ROB-CyberBunker 6 лет назад
funny. i can assure you my 40 year old-ish 4mhz scope can handle it just as well. (as long as you don't insert the 14mhz xtal oscs ;)
@traida111
@traida111 7 лет назад
what music do you use when you're Soldering? sounds like toe jam and earl
@banama1758
@banama1758 9 лет назад
cant wait part 2
@StarTrooper47
@StarTrooper47 9 лет назад
so that separate sheet of paper are those hex values?
@fristysOriginal
@fristysOriginal 9 лет назад
More like Woz designed and built it and Jobs sold it, but OK :D
@strra
@strra 9 лет назад
you beat me to it
@strra
@strra 9 лет назад
also, Woz wrote Breakout... Jobs stole it.
@luisdanielmesa
@luisdanielmesa 9 лет назад
We had WOZ on campus to give a talk (and promote his iWoz book) and I felt angry about the story he was telling... "you're brilliant but we don't need you anymore now that we have money to hire other people"
@DanielEisterhold
@DanielEisterhold 9 лет назад
Luis Daniel Mesa Velasquez What school?
@luisdanielmesa
@luisdanielmesa 9 лет назад
***** ITESM in Monterrey, Mexico, I was giving programming lab and I thought it was going to be awe inspiring, but no, it was kinda "this is life, some people are nice, some people are shit, deal with it". He spoke about his plane accident and how everything went downhill after that. I got the book signed, you get some drama inside of it apart from the wins.
@MyShopNotes
@MyShopNotes 9 лет назад
lol, I used to write in hex (machine language) until I found out assemblers existed. I think you meant an assembler and not a compiler. Great vid, brought back lots of old memories. Like when I wrote my first hex editor for disk sectors on my cp/m machine. Or debugging my microcode using a 1630d logic analyzer.
@flatfingertuning727
@flatfingertuning727 6 лет назад
One thing I've long wondered is whether some simple wiring mods could have allowed the processor to output data to the display faster if it injected data into the shift registers at just the right time [the normal design would latch a byte of data from the CPU and then have hardware clock it into the shift register at the right time]. Even if the CPU wouldn't be fast enough to write two consecutive bytes in the same frame, it might be able to inject every tenth character or so. Apple I computers are too rare to be worth hacking with for such experiments, but a recreation that uses shift registers might be interesting to experiment with.
@tubical71
@tubical71 9 лет назад
Cool idea, to re-build a 6502 computer;) Why you din´t go the way as all the others had gone that days built up a proto board? I´ve used the old school *wire-wrapp* method. As it´s way easier and the lacquer-coated copper is by far more easier to solder and to re-wire in case of some error(s). Here´s a little how to: Intro to Wire Wrapping And here´s what had going on with Pro wire-wrapp boards: Handmade WireWrap Card 1978 - Amazing ! Good work, anyway!
@linusevosonic
@linusevosonic 9 лет назад
Breakout wasn't created by Steve Jobs it was Woz. Wozniac was the genius at Apple building the entire Apple 1&2 Jobs just an salesman. Better read Steve Wozniacs Biography some time.
@another3997
@another3997 3 года назад
There are two sides to every story, and I doubt Woz is immune to adding a few embellishments and exaggeration, any more than most people. Certainly Apple would not exist had it not been for Jobs and his business acumen. Which is why Apple brought him back to rescue it from oblivion. After some aborted attempts at redesigning Apple OS, Apple finally bought NEXT, whose OS should become OS X.
@captiand387
@captiand387 9 лет назад
im sill confused how o wire the chips together (ram Rom CPU)
@battlecitygym5863
@battlecitygym5863 5 лет назад
is there schematics for this build? and where can I find them
@user-um6jr6ig8b
@user-um6jr6ig8b 9 лет назад
what ROM and RAM did you used??
@carlosbrito5369
@carlosbrito5369 7 лет назад
what's the chip that has the BASIC program?
@PonyCreepers
@PonyCreepers 9 лет назад
am i the only one that just sits and and nods to everything, even though i have no clue whats being said?
@ithaca2076
@ithaca2076 4 года назад
Yep
@Nickalaich
@Nickalaich 9 лет назад
What rom and ram were used?
@justy256
@justy256 9 лет назад
I love this! I started as a 13 y/o in 6502 assembler on an Apple ][
@thingyee1118
@thingyee1118 9 лет назад
Awesome. Building something old by your self. Ben you should use those "dream boards" in your videos.
@SuperSmashDolls
@SuperSmashDolls 7 лет назад
>Woz hand assembled the monitor and that's insane This is actually more common than you think. I'm currently disassembling a translation patch for Telefang because, up until a year ago, we didn't have an assembler; and we don't actually know what we changed in our patches. Literally everything was done by hand. I suspect a lot of other romhack projects are handled the same way.
@HockeyCrab
@HockeyCrab 8 лет назад
That intro was the best
@darksam1212
@darksam1212 9 лет назад
Could we get the design files online?
@MichalJacekJurek
@MichalJacekJurek 9 лет назад
How can i build my replica ? Can i get a schematic and all what i need ?
@jonahlehner3855
@jonahlehner3855 9 лет назад
Where did Ben find the hex file?
@cesarau4
@cesarau4 8 лет назад
where can I get the code to 6502?
@octonezd
@octonezd 7 лет назад
Is there a text guide for the replica?
@nychold
@nychold 9 лет назад
*TECHNICALLY*, it's 65,536 bytes. The highest possible address is 65,535. Always remember to count your zeros. :) Also, another option to make things work well would be to use a 64K (or larger) ROM chip, and put the data that's supposed to be at $C000 at $C000 in the ROM chip. It requires a bigger ROM chip (which can actually be used to your advantage later), but it keeps things nice an organized while you're debugging.
@Wouter_wat
@Wouter_wat 9 лет назад
Are you going to install System 1 or so on it?
@NaokisRC
@NaokisRC 9 лет назад
This is Apple 1, not Mac 1. Two different computers and the mac runs on an M68k
@ImaginationToForm
@ImaginationToForm 9 лет назад
Neat. This seemed like a good place to use laser method though.
@louvelpaul2290
@louvelpaul2290 6 месяцев назад
Watched this show when i was 14. My love for programming and electronic comes from jere…
@palemacaroon4836
@palemacaroon4836 6 лет назад
The 6502 was not used in the Commodore 64. The C64 used a 6510 cpu.
@calvinthedestroyer
@calvinthedestroyer 8 лет назад
Nice spray booth :)
@ConnorCiecko
@ConnorCiecko 9 лет назад
Ben, where did you get all the components for the project?
@someoneyoudontknow106
@someoneyoudontknow106 9 лет назад
Connor Ciecko EBAY !!
@someoneyoudontknow106
@someoneyoudontknow106 9 лет назад
Hackeras 32 (or Amazon)
@CB3ROB-CyberBunker
@CB3ROB-CyberBunker 6 лет назад
"timer circuit" for reset? never heard of dallas econoresets (DS1813+ for example) ? i know 'timer circuits' and 'rc circuits' and contraptions with zenerdiodes were the shit in those days but there are proper reset chips around nowadays, which only take a single to92 component, that also pull reset if there are brown out conditions while it runs. timer circuits do -not- monitor the voltage. (analog devices has something simular in 8 pin narrow dip)
@lnro4494
@lnro4494 9 лет назад
Ben, I bet you know what Windows 8.1 is or atleast voice recognition for 7 ya inow
@jasonpowell6091
@jasonpowell6091 9 лет назад
So Ben, why did you spend all that time wiring the ram, rom, and cpu like that with all of those wires instead of just etching into the pub board, wouldn't it been a 1000 times easier?
@TofranBohk
@TofranBohk 9 лет назад
Have you considered building a Sliders Timer replica? :-)
@antoniopetito
@antoniopetito 9 лет назад
I second that.
@HighVoltageResistors
@HighVoltageResistors 9 лет назад
great video :D
@retrox684
@retrox684 6 лет назад
can you guys make a schematic for one of these so your fans could try building one themselves
@cesarau4
@cesarau4 8 лет назад
Where can I get schematics ??
@anch1994
@anch1994 9 лет назад
How can we do this? Can we buy a kit somewhere?
@JacGoudsmit
@JacGoudsmit 9 лет назад
There are kits for computer replicas available online in various places. For example Vince Briel at Brielcomputers.com sells the Replica 1 which emulates the Apple 1 in what looks like the same way Ben is working on. I myself am working on a kit called "Propeddle" that uses a 6502 and a Propeller to replicate/emulate many different 6502 computers from the late 1970s and early 1980s. See www.propeddle.com.
@szymon1051tv
@szymon1051tv 9 лет назад
How build own theremin?
@cessnachannel4285
@cessnachannel4285 7 лет назад
anybody now what diodes hes using???
@WamWooWam
@WamWooWam 9 лет назад
What's with the how-to style? I prefer the random ben heck stuff.
@matthewzepess5721
@matthewzepess5721 9 лет назад
how much did it cost to complete this project?
@matthewzepess5721
@matthewzepess5721 9 лет назад
and how long did it take you?
@sundhaug92
@sundhaug92 4 года назад
Kruzader was not a part of the original Apple 1, but is a part of the Replica 1
@charliebrown1976
@charliebrown1976 6 лет назад
I am genuinely concerned for Ben Heck's mental health. Some of those sounds he makes are kind of weird.
@QuantumFluxable
@QuantumFluxable 9 лет назад
Jeez, Ben, why do you go through the trouble of hand wiring the memory like that, just make a PCB. Yea, I know, this is more flexible, but if you add an unpopulated hole to each pin of the components, it doesn't take that much more space and you have just the same flexibility to add in stuff or debug later.
@letsgocamping88
@letsgocamping88 9 лет назад
An ideal use for their pcb prototyping setup
@Robonza
@Robonza 9 лет назад
I would have wire wrapped it myself much faster than making a pcb or point to point. Also if you make a mistake you just unwrap it and move the wire.
@devjock
@devjock 9 лет назад
Robonza I subbed because of the 3d printer video's. Nice one!
@chucknorris687
@chucknorris687 9 лет назад
cost?
@thomasloven
@thomasloven 9 лет назад
Compear... It almost hurts! Well done.
@adamz1671
@adamz1671 9 лет назад
I would love to be able to do what you do, but it just seems so complicated. :l
@vehasmaa
@vehasmaa 9 лет назад
Hmm wondering where he got 6502 cpu, they seems more rare these days to find then winning a lottery..
@seljd
@seljd 9 лет назад
I think that by saying "build by Steve Jobs and Steve Wozniak" he meant Wozniak build it and Jobs was watching and thinking how to sell this thing
@mOczakowski
@mOczakowski 5 лет назад
fun fact: the Nintendo NES cpu is based on the 6502 cpu (almost identical) and manufactured by Ricoh ;D
@unebonnevie
@unebonnevie 6 лет назад
Suggestion: Use different wire colors for address lines and data lines.
@snooze3100
@snooze3100 9 лет назад
Can anyone tell me, how complicated and/or difficult it was for Jobs and Wozniak to originally make this computer? How did they program the chips for example? This seems like such a simple job for Ben, but considered they originally had to design it from scratch, it had to be a lot time consuming, right? Thanks :)
@spicydeath82
@spicydeath82 9 лет назад
not really from scratch, there was a lot of home brew computer clubs back then. a lot of the ideas in the first apple came from what others had done before, wozniak just put it all together( I believe wozniak worked for ibm at that time). A good movie to watch is pirates of silicon valley, doesn't get to technical and maybe inaccurate but gives you a pretty good idea of how it all came together.
@spicydeath82
@spicydeath82 9 лет назад
***** ah, hp. i remembered he worked for a computer company. i think i thought it was ibm because of how much jobs hated them and viewed them as the enemy.
@snooze3100
@snooze3100 9 лет назад
Thanks for the comments! I'll be sure to check out the movie once I have time :) Thanks!
@Coloradoguy234
@Coloradoguy234 9 лет назад
***** Can you blame him? Pirates didn't sugar coat who Steve Jobs was. I'm sure that infuriated him.
@Coloradoguy234
@Coloradoguy234 9 лет назад
***** In essence Steve Jobs was nothing but a really good used car salesman. Complete with no ethics.
@saifer666
@saifer666 9 лет назад
do you know where I can present a project for ben ? I realy want him to take a look a the piPhone that some Irish dude made few month ago. to make a nice case, get off want the project don't need and such. take a look : PiPhone - A Raspberry Pi based Smartphone
@SianaGearz
@SianaGearz 7 лет назад
Yeah, there's a ben heck show subforum on Element14. Your odds are high that he or the production team will see that.
@Ryan-9000
@Ryan-9000 9 лет назад
That oscilloscope is amazing!
@muh1h1
@muh1h1 9 лет назад
are you kidding me youtube? i got a 164mbit/s connection, and you are freaking BUFFERING?! SCREW YOU RU-vid!
@Q974
@Q974 9 лет назад
Same here !!!!?????
@cw3040
@cw3040 9 лет назад
net newtrality, all newts eaten by comcastodon
@jhesselbom
@jhesselbom 9 лет назад
***** Think before you comment. If this guy can afford speeds over 100mbit/s, he's most likely running of a sweet rig. Also, if hardware is the problem, it would be his total RAM, not the graphics card. :L
@muh1h1
@muh1h1 9 лет назад
Uhm, i think a HD 7870 and an FX 8350 aswell as 16 GB of ram should be more than enough for youtube...
@muh1h1
@muh1h1 9 лет назад
RoastymyToasty - while your theory is not wrong, i have to say that internet in germany is dirt cheap :D infact, the 150mbit connection i have would cost 50€ a month, if i would not work for the provider, which means i get it for free even :D
@peberdah
@peberdah 5 лет назад
Why not extend this Apple board with a SD disk extension as cassette? for few bucks make it infinetly usefull.
@matidr
@matidr 9 лет назад
Great!!!
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