@@michaeldellorso889 Norman's phenomenal skill as a ball-striker often overshadows his excellent playing record. He won 54 tournaments and set 33 course records. He shot three 59s and made 17 holes-in-one., hogan didn’t.
I still remember when Tiger came out and was burning up the PGA tour and a tour reporter asked Jack "So is Tiger the best ball striker you have ever seen?"...without taking a breath Jack answered "Oh no that would be Ben Hogan".
@@brianyoung3 That is putting it mildly. Since you mentioned him I will tell an anecdote: Lee came off the 18th green at a tourney I don't recall and was grabbed for a quik post round on air interview and after the routine questions the TV guy asked Lee for one or two tips for the 15 handicappers. I don't recall what Lee's tips were but when he finished he started to turn and walk away and then turned back and wryly said "it also doesn't hurt to hit two or three hundred balls a day at the range"...as a 4 handicap that is the real answer right there.
@@harrybaulzack6934 Moe was more consistent than all of them with the possible exception of maybe Hogan I hate to say, but it's true. I saw rounds where Moe would say; "I'm going to put it in the divot I left this morning." Not only would he do it but, he'd hit the ball out of the divot and pick it clean as if it were on a tee. Most amazing thing I have ever seen. "The Five Fundamentals of Golf" was my golf bible, "Golf My Way" was second and third was: "The physics of the double pendulum."
This is far and away the best video study of Hogan's swing out there with a focus on rotating the body first and the action of the hands. Turn your sound ALL THE WAY DOWN and enjoy!
Hogan is my hero when it comes to swing. I have studied his swing and worked hard to copy it. I finally got it down last year (or as close as I am going to get) and I can just rip the ball now and my swing is so consistent. So nice not to worry about if you are going to hit it fat, thin or top it. I can get up there and just hammer the ball.
pulling the hips first and hinging right elbow to body changed everything for me 7:42. Amateurs like me do not understand that he is not moving his upper extremities at all at that moment, he is only moving the hips. Thank you Ben Hogan for the five lessons.
this video is the best of all. mr hogan shows it all while in his prime. i've been studying mr hogan forever. i am 72 yrs. old. what i would have given to have this about 30 yrs. ago. thank you for this great post.
Watching this again after a long time. Just got back home from visiting my mum, 86yrs old, in Carnoustie. My home town. Don't live there anymore, but I am privileged to come from there knowing that Mr Hogan made a very lasting impression on Carnoustie. One of the holes named after him now, Hogan's Alley. He must have been like an Exocet missile with his tee shots. His swing is so natural and sublime. Youngsters should watch and take note of this, it is not muscular strength but it is a wound up spring being released at the perfect moment. Many happy memories for me remembered every time I watch Mr Hogan. I never saw him, I am only 56. But proud that he played on the council owned course that I grew up on.
Great to hear from you. Carnoustie would be hallowed ground for me. The Hogan connection, the land of my progenitors, the deep feeling I have for this game.
As I said in my earlier statement I got it as close as I could for a repeating swing. To get Hogans swing down it took about 5 years. It took me a long time to believe in the swing, so I would lay off a lot of shots. I finally decided to just try it. I couldn't believe how easy it was to just crush the ball.
I do think this is great he is about 53 here. His backswing shortened up a bit and the mechanics and club slotting takes place so much earlier and it's causing a more effortless swing where he is pushing after impact. I love it.
I have watch this video hundreds of times and what catch's my eye are a couple of things. The feeling I get with hogan is that when goes to his back swing, the driver swing he picks his left heel up off the ground, goes to a certain point of his back swing then slams his left foot and left knee forward into the ground starting the transition then butt handles the club at impact, goes around to the left then up to a very high follow through... The other thing that got my eye when watching this over and over again is the reroute he makes in his back swing from the top to the downswing exactly at the same time he slams (transfers) the weigh into in left thigh, knee and foot to the ground, always staying into the inside of his right foot at impact and a little after, never spinning the right foot in any shots while curving his left wrist to compress the ball... That's so coool...I love this video and on his irons shots you can see how he compresses the ball at impact, with his whole body, not just with his hands or arms. The swing plane is a little confusing to me in his form, but I love watching him go through those movements. Thanks so much, Paul
Good points but there is a Number of things that made his swing one of most stable golf swing movements. Put your eye on the left foot is a good starting point and see how his left big toe puts up into his shoe during his golf swing. Then watch hies left foot does NOT turn out in the swing like so many others and its repeatable. See how his hips are stable base on his feet for they come through where other pros hips move in different directions, What people do not realize is his right foot does not move when the club is being taken back. WHY he keeps pressure on the ball of the rights foot so he can turn his hips fast. The inter thigh in both left and right legs are engaged to turn the hips because the left foot is pushing to the right and right being on the ball does not move.. So his FEET balance is far better then todays players for they do not move taking the club back. He guides the hip turning and shoulder rotation with pulling up on big toe of left foot base on muscle tension he formed between the right and left feet for hip Turing. Think hip turning. The other big POINT people miss in his right elbow placement in every swing he does. You do not see him jumping up during the swinging of the Driver why so many great players have jump swinging the. driver. Its about the right elbow is key point in the golf swing.
@@Qitrainer They jump up because it's a power source. Hogan does it as well. Just not as much. It's the squat turn and jump move. Phyics suggest that hitting up on the ball is one of the most efficient ways to hit it longer and straighter. Actually keeps the clubface pointed towards the target longer through and after impact. Don't really think it has anything to do with the right elbow.
Thank you for reply. Let me try to be clear, The differences from Ben Hogan and so many other golfers that jump before striking the ball.. Ben Comes came up after hitting the ball but others jump before hitting the ball. Look at Ben right elbow angle placement next to the body as his club comes into the ball and other players right elbow is away from the body as they jump before hitting the ball. Then look at Ben right foot heel and how he uses it in his swing vis the golfers that jump. If your right elbow is next the body you cannot be jumping as you strike the ball. I see them jumping before they hit the ball the right elbow is away from the body to almost straight. It is two different approaches to swing the driver. Jumping has its effect but what it limits is hand dynamic force by having less leg time. For as the Right arm becomes straight before hitting the ball limit wrist and hand leg time with the club. With the elbow close the the body the lag time is greater to having arm straight. Ben had greater leg time given his right elbow placement coming through and his right foot heel directional use for the hip action. Jumpers Straight arm to bring the club face to the ball for its just two difference approaches . The guys that jump lot of the time are tall over 6 feet and Ben Hogan was 5-8 I believe and yet his club head striking force was one of the best. His form of swing uses produces less effort to get the distances. Deciding what swing mechanics is a choice and his Book the 5 lessons the Best swing mechanic and I do not see jumping as part of his book. I do enjoy a good discussion on club swing mechanics. Have good day.
@@Qitrainer I like this conversation. I also noticed Hogan’s right upper arm is glued to his body on EVERY swing. And zero arm structure deviation from setup. It appears so simple.
To me, the most important part of this swing is that the biceps stay glued to the chest. Notice how this keeps his shoulders and arms connected and returns the club head to the ball the same way each time. Today, in the back swing, they all disconnect by lifting the club upwards as the chest continues to turn. They then must reconnect on the way down. That's an inconsistent move which isn't needed. Hogan was very long because he used the torque stored in his stretched muscles. It's also why he was so damn accurate. If you guys haven't got the DVD on Shell's Wonderful World of Golf, Hogan vs. Snead......GET IT and you will see what I mean by accurate. You won't see him hit any chips or short pitches because he never misses a fairway or green. This guy has never been equaled.
100 percent right my friend and there are very specific things he did at address to allowed this to happen that have been omitted from modern golf instruction hence why no one else swings like him.
Simple, efficient, effective...poetry in motion. No flying elbow is sacrificing distance for consistency and complete control, a very tasty recipe for success. Top 3 ball strikers ever.
please don't say you are referring to Nicklaus with the flying elbow stuff. lol if so, I'll remind you that Nicklaus was one of the straightest and longest drivers of the golf in history and also one of the most accurate iron players.
What a seamless motion. My eyes go to the position of the right elbow and the left foot through out the swing. That is what appears to allow everything else to just happen.
One of the worthwhile benefits of modern technology is the ability to watch the greatest sportsmen from the past and Ben Hogan with his perfect swing is up there with the best and without doubt the greatest golfer ever. And contrary to the nauseating drivel and sycophantic worship perpetrated by Sky Sorts golf commentators of the amoral TW, Ben Hogan’s comeback from a near fatal crash is the greatest [golf] sorting comeback of all time.
Golf PORN!!! Seriously, though, great compilation, and composition of it. The mixture of regular speed and slow motion is perfect for educational purposes but still has a flow that makes it fun to watch. Accompanying music is good, too. I'd love to "expand my consciousness" like Ben Hogan could. He's like 53 years old in this video.
If you watch real close, Hogan's hands didn't move the same way on every shot. He did different things with his hands to make the shot work. Something else I thought was pretty cool. He was taking divots with his fairway woods.
i don't know how people can hate this song. i watch this video a lot before matches or going to the driving range. i get the rhythm in my head then i always think free your mind and expand your conscious. i don't see why Hogan would have cared about that. I'm telling you this stuff works.
Been working hard on this swing lately. Finally found the sweet spot. It is way simpler than it looks. Had to be or he would have messed it up regularly and he never did. To be as brief as possible here it is: Lock right elbow to hip. Keep left arm perfectly straight(Acts as a Pry Bar). Front knee bends forward with left shoulder. Rotate the wrists as they pass the right elbow. His arrow in the quiver feeling will be felt as you rotate. Will feel like your are twisting the arrow in the quiver on the way up and you simply unwind pulling the arrow out on the way down by using your left hip. Keep your left arm near your right shoulder as long as possible. Right forearm is active on way up and right elbow on way down. This is a smooth, long swing. No jerking just turning. Head stays steady. That is it. If it doesn't feel smooth and like all you are doing is rotating around your right elbow you are doing it wrong. Trust me your swing will always feel way different than it looks.
Watch his head. Everything rotates around it while it is stationary. Watch his right elbow, back to the side and follows body rotation. Also the tilt of the shoulders through rotation and impact. Purest swing, like watching a ballet on the golf course.
I was obsessed watching the fixed position of his right elbow. (All the way through!) I failed to notice the head or the consistent tilt. Thanks for pointing that out!
Love the music! It's such a great juxtaposition against golf's genteel side and really drives home the point of what a badass Mr. Hogan was. Even though it's probably unlikely he would have enjoyed this music, it pairs well with what I imagine was the ferocious beast inside of his mind during competitions not to mention the insane amount of power he could spin up and unleash in each swing.
Yeah Ben was more Benny Goodman than Rage, but for a huge Hogan fan and old rocker, this is just awesome. This was a ball striking clinic against another great ball striker in Snead, and he put him to shame
Haha the great Ben Hogan would probably say what awful music . Besides that great compilation. Just shows what a great striker of the ball he was , when we're all studying his swing 20years after his death . A gentleman love the clips when he says , if you don't mind I'll hit a ball , that clips in there . Love watching him , too young to remember him sadly.
Notice his radial ball position presenting the feet more closed to target for the longer clubs, but see how the hips are always slightly open to the feet line, due in part because of the flared left foot position. His entire swing and hook prevention was built around an aggressive unwinding of the hips and lower body. Pretty awesome compilation even with such an aggressive sound track!
You are just as sick today as you were the first time we saw you swing a club Bennie! The hands, shoulders, hips, knees always at optimal impact position all while making it look effortless...
watch 'lag city' in all it's glory starting at 1:30 . i love how ben keeps the lead arm parallel to the shoulder plane, but somehow, possibly in the start of the downswing in one smooth transition, the club and hands drop slightly and seem to be below his right shoulder, as if the club is on his back shoulder blades, produces awesome kinetic power from the resulting lag.
Hogan was way ahead of his time when it came to swing mechanics and there are no teachers today who have picked up on it. An obscure guru has developed the best biokinetic explanation yet. Search for the h1e2x3 channel and his corresponding website.
Thanks, but since I've found the Mike Austin swing method there has been no turning back. h1e2x3 was the part of the process to reach where I am now. Will check out Reeves, though :)
husky7876 no he isn't, he was many years ago the best jnr in Europe and is one of the best coaches in golf and is bringing something new and backed up by thorough scientific research.. not fresh air and old wives tales..
husky7876 no he isn't, he was many years ago the best jnr in Europe and is one of the best coaches in golf and is bringing something new and backed up by thorough scientific research.. not fresh air and old wives tales..
Interesting...with all the discussion about what starts (what should start) the downswing, if you quick double click through the slow motion swing starting at 1:42, you can see Ben start transferring weight to his left side (the knee pops first) at 1:48 just before/as his backswing completes.
Yes, and the arms never lose their structure and NEVER lose their relative position to his torso. They seem to be nearly 100% passive. I could watch this video for hours. No wait, I already have.
Loved it, even the music. Everyone likes to argue what made Hogan's swing what it was, but I see Sergio as the closest thing on tour today, and he certainly doesn't want for distance. Add to that Hogan's mental game and I don't think there's any question he'd be a major force in any era.
The person who picked this song gets it.. unless they just.. decided to pick a song about an expanded consciousness influencing a certain mysterious place void of light and concentrations of energy causing it to become visible to the one accessing it.. and no I will not explain.. YOU have to find it. Focus on the grip. Praise be to ben for he let's us know when we find that magical curvaceous, bouncy plane. Good luck to all hope this gets some people thinking outside the box - if you don't aren't willing to forget Newton and move more toward einstein's thoughts on physics, it will help. Lastly 2 Hogan quotes meant to help you in your journey "all a golfer needs is more sunlignt" and "hit the ball UP.. you meet a better class of people up there.... okkkkkk done bye bye now.
As a further comment, Hogans rival the great Sam Snead, said he liked to hum to Waltz music as he swung the club. No golfer that ever lived could play humming to that background music. "THE WALTZ OF THE ZOMBIE APOCALYPSE!!" Sorry folks, I'm just having fun with an otherwise wonderful video. Music wise, it's the greatest argument for The Comeback of Silent Movies I've heard yet.
Ben was 53 yrs old in this video. His swing got shorter as he got older, as did the swings of Sam, Arnie and Jack and countless others, as will yours and mine when the inevitable calcification sets in the old vertebrae :)
You are right BUT did you know calcification doesn't necessarily have to happen ? Search it & if you do really care about it, what you will find will make you cry. So sad. Calcification causes blockage in the arteries & causes brain disease. Alzheimer, etc. Book "The Calcium lie" is one research on subject.
Mashie niblick maybe I'm the lucky one, at the age of 65 I still get a full swing and rotation, even the younger golfers on the course comment on how fluid and easy my swing looks.
Hogan would beat the fuck out of any touring pro today, YES, that includes Wood. One area that may be in doubt is putting. It is not just about the swing, it is the attitude, course management, the mental strength, determination. Even if you are more gifted, he would practice 100 times as hard just to get the upper hand, and he loved practice!! IT IS HIS ATTITUDE TOWARD GOLF THAT MADE HIM ONE OF IF NOT THE GREATEST GOLFER OF ALL TIME.
Hey guy.....take another look......Hogan NEVER came over the top....he actually LOWRED his hands at the start of the downswing so his swing was UNDER the backswing plane....that was his famous 'magic' move to prevent a hook or pull. Dont know what youre looking at but try again and youll see what im saying!
Dang yawl my old buddy takes divots with his driver off the tee peg and gets great back spin turning 400 yard holes into par 6’s ,his launch angle could be a little acute ?
His secret is that he hits the ball with his elbow before the club head. His body moves first coming down because he is getting leverage to drive the elbow first!
To me it appears that the right elbow is simply using the body to take a ride. He never loses relative position of his arms (elbow) with his torso. Thoughts?
If you look at Hogan swing and follow through his left knee did not straighten out till after impact when you tried kicking the right hip before impact and you straighten out you left knee you're going to fall back on your heels so the left knee does not straighten out until after impact with a ball.
so much golf instruction sites Ben Hogan's swing and teachings, yet none of todays greatest players swing like Hogan. perhaps Ben Hogan was a great champion despite his swing.....
Well...the complex subtleties of Hogan's swing were lost on the overly simplistic, heuristically methodological, burgeoning golf instruction community that succeeded his era. Its way easier to teach someone to stand square to the ball on every club, for example, than it is to teach his more complex stance rotation concepts he showed us in 5 lessons. Players(swingers) are taught to have level forearms at address while his are open, for another example. These types of asymmetries bug golf pros (and their students). So they straighten out all the off angles and just say everything needs to be square and straight lol. Besides, there's more to great golf than having a biomechanically perfect golf swing 🍸👌😉
