Ben Johns vs Quang Duong at the Hyundai Masters 

Duong having his dad as his coach is his super power. Nobody wants you to succeed more than your dad. Both of them putting 100% on his pickleball career. This is awesome. Congrats to the avatar!

Well done Quang Duong, spectacular match!

Great match! I love the heavy top spin and the move away from simply punching the ball forward. This is also good for Johns as it will force him to elevate his game.

Duong seems like a sweet kid. Very easy going and not having to say things to sound cool. He has a nice smile too.

Exciting match! Quand Duong seemed to have such accute focus as he hit every stroke and executed his shots with real skill. And, even better I want to say how impressed I am with Quand for his sportsmanship. At the end of the match, I noted that he took his hat off as he gave Ben five/paddle tapped... And during the post-match interview he was completely humble; giving credit to the wind, the circumstances, and Ben not playing his usual best. You can see that Quand's upbringing has taught him respect for those masters who have gone before. He gave digity to Ben after dethroning the king of PB. I admire this respectful attitude and humility. Very impressed! And I think Quand is going to go far! Intrigued to watch his future career blossom.

Keep it up Duong! I’m very proud of you on and off the court. Win or lose be respect to the sport and each other.

is this like 12 fps? can we get more frames please

30:30 The ball was out! They need slow motion!

Good job Quang! Way to go! Held your head up high and took that W! 🎉

Looked like the wind and bounce in this game were super odd. Never seen so many missed serves and missed returns before

like line calls were both the wrong, bens looked out and Quang looked in.

Wow congratulations to Quang Dong! Love Ben Johns but this is great!

Nice young talent. Great for the game and future of Pickle. So happy Ben lost. He needs to be challenged to keep pushing. Sock and Duong style of play will help elevate the sport.

The female announcer is so one-sided to Johns. Whatever matchup I see, she emphasizes Ben's play while downplaying the play of his opponents. If Johns puts away a pop-up she proclaims what a wonderful and beautiful shot that Ben and only Ben could have made. If he misses, she exclaims what a wonderful and beautiful shot it would have been if it had gone in. If the opponent makes a beautiful shot - it's how "Ben Johns almost got to that one and if he did it would have been beautiful and wonderful" Just ask him to marry you already! And it only gets worse if ALW is playing. It's like a drool fest. Maybe make your reverence a little less obvious?

THE NEW PICKLEBALL = GAME OF BANGING BANGING .

Congrats Quang. Great game from both players...

24:27 yeah point of contact rule is hard to enforce cuz some of the "best servers" basically jump anyway. Dropping from the waist is a good rule

34:40 ball was in! PPA has to do sth there...even after video still the wrong decision...

I would think the PPA has enough money to place cameras right along lines instead of angled. Both of the calls at the end were impossible to see exactly where it landed based on the sun with shadow and angle of camera. Bush league to me!

Surprised Ben didn't do more research and checkout his action against the new rules before starting the tournament. No wonder, being called out on illegal serving action during a difficult match and then arguing about it is bound to have put him off his game and his head. "Fail to prepare, .... "

What's up with the low quality video with these matches. Do better pbtv!

Quang Duong baby yeah!!!!

did they record this with a phone or something? why is it so choppy

Don’t know what the big deal is. Ben had a bad game and Quang had a good game.

What's Quang Duong's grip during serve called? Semi Western?

What was the paddle debacle ?

Both players were hitting legal serves in the beginning and cost Ben Johns the first game. Ben Johns reverted back to his old serve which won him the second game. Once Ben Johns got called for illegal serve Quang tightened up his service motion. Love the change though as it gets rid of the random HIGH and LOW bounces to the left and right. Now you just play the random LOW bounces to the left and right. Just make it easier to officiate and do the drop serve as you get nearly the same type of ball on serves as the newly modified volley serves.

Serve rule is ridiculous. These guys can hit and return every shot let them play. Sheez

Okay Ben Johns. You were challenging the ref last year to call you on your serve and you weren’t being called. Now that you are being called, you are arguing. Which way do you want it???

Duong's game has improved quite a bit from the last time they played each other 5 months ago. His dad/coach has done a really good job in flattening his forehand shot. By the way, I believe Duong will have an advantage in matches playing in difficult conditions. Watching this funny "match" and you may see why ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-E2yUgjD7w5s.html . Basically, that's hustling for money where you learn to play under extreme pressure.

Quang is really fast kid! Great play indeed!

The ball was out. It was clearly a favor from referees.

0:01 - Quang isn't sure if he's serving legally lol

What was the story with Duong’s paddle

Does Ben Johns have a new paddle ?

Game continues to speed up.

Great job by the young gun taking out the best to do it. Any given day it can happen. That being said the new serve debate could be solved by one simple rule, just go to drop serve for everyone that's the best of all worlds. Easy fix in my opinion.

31:32 anyone notice multiple times when Duong will go for a drive on his forehand and his follow through won’t cross his body and instead lifts up over the same aside shoulder? I’ve never seen this before but obviously this technique came from tennis or something right?

3:19 I saw it in!

Video buffering is bad.

Anyone else see the glitching in the video? Seems the video is skipping frames

Bang. Bang. Bang. I say ban carbon fiber. Roll back paddle technology. Make paddles smooth again with less bite. Force players to learn pickelball skill. Or soon the soft game will be obsolete because you can hit a hard and heavy topspin ball from your ankles while at the kitchen and still keep it in. Great win for Duong. He’s not doing anything wrong. But paddle technology is taking what’s-making-pickleball-different -from-tennis out of the equation.

is Duong serve legitimate. ? from the side seems above the vest?

A lot of serves are short… Which opens up easy returns and drive…

The most dominate Golfer of all time. Tiger Woods. Here is a stat for the haters. Woods has won a record 22.8% (82 out of 359) of his professional starts on the PGA Tour.

Former tennis player wins again

A lot more errors than I’d expect at this level. Some nice points too though.

Duong's ball at 25:00 was in

This is what is going to happen when tennis players start to play pickle ball

Just go to the drop serve at this point. These serves are so unnatural

Video quality could be a lot better!

Where’s the sportsmanship BJ?

At 00:43 I knew who won 😂

didnt this kid win the orange bowl in tennis? pretty sure hes a high level junior

What's wrong Ben Johns serve?

Doung's serve @24:56 isn't any different than the issue they called BJ for just prior. His arm is raising up before the drop and above the hip just like BJ. Why was he not called for the exact same issue? Then BJ does the same thing he already got called for @25:24 and no call. This rule is either too subjective or to difficult to call consistently.

3:14 can someone explain to me why this is a point for quang?

Ben dropped balls high b4 he served to take advantage of rules and got caught . It is hard to set rules how high balls are tossed or dropped when players serve.

This kid is 17 and will only get better. John’s is in trouble long term

Duong seems like a good bloke. I absolutely hate the serve rules they are experimenting with. They should just go back to what they had and actually enforce those instead

8:45 - why is there a "let" serve? (be nice)

What a silly rule they are trying out. Ben was dropping the ball above his wrist and making paddle to ball contact below his wrist on the serve. I think Ben just got frustrated

The serving rules are unproductive, it simply interfered with the games.

Can you please upload videos that have a framerate higher than 12 FPS? I've watch 21 seconds of this and it's already annoying.

Duong serve illegal, if Ben played him 10 times, he would win 8.

"IRON DONG" Quang is the beginning of the new era in pickleball- only 17 years old and just wiped the floor with Ben. Many Of these kids are coming in late 2024 and 2025!

Bad sportsmanship from John at the end of game 1

So is this benchmark of wimbledon? Why are they wearing white only

The challenge at 30:42 should not have went in favor of Ben Johns. Lol some rigging at work in Pickleball already? Keep the top Joola earner on top

a lot of missed serves and returns...

John’s will beat him next time around. I wonder if Duong can play doubles.

This was an interesting match and a good game on both sides. When you take into account the factors at play here then you can understand why Ben John’s didn’t play his best. It’s early in the morning, it’s windy, new pickle ball and on top of that he’s trying out a new paddle. Idk about y’all but when trying a new paddle it takes a while to adjust to it and get comfortable. A lot of people say the new talent is coming in and these vets are in trouble, but these people just don’t understand the game enough. But regardless the future of pickleball looks very bright and we have these vets to thank for that.

Daddy’s boy..got lucky..😂

Vietnam player

To all the non-Vietnamese people out there, Duong is pronounced Y-OO-NG. Way to represent kid. Announcers need to be corrected so it doesn’t continue to happen.

Ben Johns is beatable in singles now

Quang out call was such bullshit that was completely in stop trying to save Ben

Announcers are doing too much in that pronunciation of “Duong.” It’s more simple than that.

Long Dong is gonna be great !

That lady announcer is annoying. She’s so pro John’s it’s sickening

Dislike when Ben John complains about net and serves. When he does it it’s fine when someone else does it he cry. And he doesn’t tap paddle properly and when someone else does not he cry too. Correct me if I’m wrong just most time when I watch him play or with his brother.

PPA is operating like a bush league organization. What other sport calls their own balls when they’re also trying to play the game and how can you disqualify a paddle that has’ too much white’, while at the same time you require the players to wear all white. I mean, WTF?

Bruh who made this title lol. its so bland and boring. They coulda said quang shocks ben johns or something

How amateurish are those video reviews. Get some Hawkeye. If they can't afford Hawkeye, then at least use lines people looking straight down the line.

Watch Quang's serve immediately after Ben Jonhs is called for an illegal server. Quang's hand at 24:56 is clearly moving upwards until the release at 24:57, and his release well above his hip. New serve rules seem to be a joke, PPA should just go to drop serve only as it would be much easier to have a consistent ruling on serves.

Ben was in the mood for chinese food, but chinese food was in the mood for hot dogs more.

Dogshit referees favoring ben Johnson. Both balls were clearly in favor of Quang.

Stupid to make it referee game instead of letting them play.

At 2058 there is a FAULT, and the chick commentator continues to talk???? STOP! Let's focus on the fault - how often do these pros fault. Get a new announcer. Grrr Maybe I just find Kam's voice incredibly irritating.

This new serve rule is stupid!! Looks like the other kid is hitting an illegal serve by coming straight across his body with the Riley Newman grip…Leave the game alone…especially if it’s not a reasonable change and just a ref’s opinion basically..ugh

This is a reality check for Ben and the ppa and I think they will soon realize he's not nearly the most talented player, just the first talented player. They coddle him and it's a bad look that the other players will start to resent.

The Refs COMPLETELY Screwed Ben on this match. 2 BULLSH!T calls on his serves in the 3rd set? What a joke

Ben is a horrible #1

CRYBABY Ben Johns is actually the Rhonda Rousey of Pickleball - He's just had a longer run because of the lack of talent in pickleball but NOW, young guns like Quang "IRON" Dong are going to be the norm by next year and Ben Johns will fade away and be a footnote to the beginning of pro pickleball. This is going to happen to McGuffin and others too. The time has come!! out with the old and in with the new generation!

This is pathetic. Why are we grunting in pickleball.

Banned the valley serve. Only dropped serve should be allowed.