Ben Shapiro on Christianity vs Judaism | Collision w/ Jeff Durbin 

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It’s comes down to justification vs sanctification. When it comes to justification, it’s by faith alone. When we are saved the Holy spirit gives us a new heart that desires righteousness. And that’s when the Holy spirit leads us through sanctification where we do good works as a result of our right standing with God.

Pastor Jeff durbin I love you brother you’re content has helped me a lot 5 months since I was born again

Ben always have a lot to say about the faith when no one is there to defend it but soon as someone challenges his objective he suddenly not interested

I honestly think he knows the truth and has chosen to believe what he is going to believe because he does not want to face the rejection of his family, tradition, etc. I find myself praying for him a lot. In the end, his great mind will be a waste if he does not accept Jesus. One only needs to read Genesis 3 to see the real problem Jesus came to solve during his first arrival. His second arrival will be very much like Jews expect (politically supreme, visibly ruling forever), but many Jews will sadly be grieved on that day.

Rock solid video. I'm preaching through the book of Daniel at my church and the proof that Jesus truly is the Messiah and the fulfillment of Daniel's prophecies is overwhelming.

Thanks for the edifying video. Praying for Ben just as I pray that all may come to the knowledge of the truth of the gospel of our Lord Jesus Christ

How come nobody wants to debate Jeff Durbin in person? Because Jeff is too good never seen him lose a debate Especially when he's paired up with you-know-who, all praise and glory to our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ through his blood and sacrifice we have salvation Lord save us from ourselves 1:16

Thank you Pastor Jeff. This turned out to be a very good teaching. Struggled a bit with Romans 3 and James 2 but this helped.

Jeff is such an intellectual powerhouse for Jesus❤️➕

Many people dont even understand what faith is, Thats the problem, Faith is being faithful, faithful to Jesus and taking him at his word, a true believer will have good works because they have faith in Christ, a person with no good works is not a true believer because he is not being faithful to the words of Jesus. Thats how u can tell who is a true follower and who is not a true follower, true believers will have good works as a byproduct of their faith.

I'm so glad that you are covering this interview

Shapiro the Pharisee

One is a religion of works and self. The other is all of Grace and Grace Alone, so that no man may boast.

I really enjoy these Collision videos on the channel Jeff! Please continue to do them. God bless ❤

Thank you brother Jeff. I just listened to a fellow believer who believes the truth, it is so refreshing.

I’ve really wanted to hear a rebuttal to his viewpoint so I have a better idea what to mention if it ever comes up for me in conversation! Thankyou so much!

Now we gotta deal with Michael Knowles. 😂

Excellent teaching for Jews and Christians. Thanks Pastor Jeff. ✝️📖🙏🤍

This was some great Insight Jeff!! Thank you

Always a good one, Pastor Jeff.

Ben is a prime example of being unable to come to God unless He changes your heart and causes you to be born again (Ezekiel 36:26). He is extremely intelligent but cannot understand. Jesus said, to you it has been granted to know and to them it has not been granted. (Matthew 13:11). I like Ben a lot. I pray God , if it is according to His will, that God will change his heart so he can perceive and come to Christ. Jeff Durbin is such a blessing in Christ to be able to base his argument in Scripture. I love Jeff Durbin's work through Christ.

Ben is a student of the Talmud so we already know the blasphemies he believes about Jesus. Praying for his repentance.

Thank you Jeff

Great series. Phenomenal video

Jeff, you are awesome handling the word of the Lord.

Amazing commentary and bible study! Much love from Holland ♥

Wow, the adblocker is no longer working on RU-vid?!

I’ve always wondered what a “heart of stone” looks like in like where Pharaoh is said to have one but then I see Ben talk about Jesus being the messiah and his unwillingness to entertain the idea and I see that heart of stone. He simply doesn’t want to believe it’s true

When it comes to the notion that Jews are about actions and Christians are about faith, I think that Ben must have skipped over the entire book of *James...* _"But someone will say, “You have faith and I have deeds.” Show me your faith without deeds, and I will show you my faith _*_by my deeds."_* *JAMES 2:18*

So many ads... had to constantly stop what I'm doing and skip them just to keep my train of thought.

Ben is a brilliant mind but he wants none of this truth.

Curious on your take on leviticus 19:22

thats was so great and amazing! thanks

You have to do a interview with Ben. It would be so interesting!

My question is how well would 7 commandments mix with the 10 commandments?

Content is great, as always. Background music is distracting and becomes more and more irritating the further in I listen.

How can you obey the first and second commandment as an atheist?

Ben gets his information from the Talmud (old testament commentaries ) interpreted by his rabbi. He doesn't understand Christianity, that the entire OT points to Jesus and His accomplishing the covenant of redemption. Ben is very smart, and I agree with him on almost everything politically, but he is wrong here. And his false caricature of what Judaism is vs Christianity, tells me he doesn't have the incentive to seek the truth. The commandments are a transcript of God's character, which is Holy. None of us can become Holy on our own accord, which is why need a savior. Jesus fulfilled the righteous requirement of the law, and His perfect righteousness is imputed to the account of those who trust in Him. Ben needs a righteousness that is not his own; but he's under the false assumption that his "good works" can make him right before a Holy God. I pray that His eyes are open to the gospel. Excellent video Jeff!

What up fellow brother's and sister's in Christ!

The difference between the offerings of Cain and Abel. The heart matters.

Why the annoying background music? Its distracting

What color robe did they put on Jesus? Before his death?

what is your general conclusion on predestination and the elect?

Right on! Presenting caricatures of Christianity is so misleading. Thanks for presenting so well the relationship of faith and works.

So many people think Ben is so smart but he is just a good, fast speaker. He needs more education on the Bible

Very well said Pastor!!!! GOD bless you and your's. Thank you for your Faith, understanding, teachings and Love through JESUS our redeemer!!!!!!!!!

Jeff, I love your heart and your content, but the background music is really distracting.

Thank you Jeff for your insight. God bless you and your family in Jesus name. 🙏🏻

Abe’s Justification by faith before the Torah “just as Abraham “believed God, and it was counted to him as righteousness”?” ‭‭Galatians‬ ‭3‬:‭6‬ ‭ESV‬‬

Excellent the law is our schoolmaster and by faith we are born again and His power is in us

To be fair, what Ben said was that Christianity is about faith first and good works coming out from that. But everything Jeff said was pretty much straight fire. Very well presented.

Here’s what I struggle with. I say that we obviously don’t kill steal commit adultery etc. I know personally that we can see that we enter into continuous Rest in Jesus as read in Hebrews 4:1-10. However if we say we keep the law how do we explain Sabbath to someone who’s taking this all literall-black and white? I see Jesus tell us in Mathew 5 6 and 7 that we will always fall short of keeping the law, I interpret that without us being covered in His Righteousness in His Blood we are doomed. We now walk in Spirit not flesh. Does that make sense?

Other question who’s claiming more authority?

I had a dream well over 20 years ago it seemed to refer to Ezekiel when I found the dream after I dreamt it about 3 weeks later in an angel book from library

Love that you point out that it is not just faith, but the will or heart to keep God's commandments has to be part of that faith. Most of the church doctrine supports what Ben is saying by drawing a cross and showing the text "Law" on the left of the Cross and the text "Grace" on the right. You pointed out in Mathew 5:17 that we should "not even think!!" that He came to abolish the Law or the Prophets, and in verse 19, Jesus is saying that we have to teach even the least of the commandments. This is part of the great commission!! Hebrew 11 is one of my favourite chapters in scripture, listing a whole list of the Old (First) Covenant believers and all of them were saved through faith, not works, but all of them also walked in God's ways following His instruction/Torah!!

So are we under torah ( the law or just the 10 commandments?)

Jeff I’ve gotta to tell you this was a fantastic collision episode. Unfortunately you will NEVER get a Jewish person to debate you or evem have a conversation on this, and there’s a reason for that. Thank you for all you do I love you and Apologia.

Many say yes!

7:55, where does the Bible say there is none righteous, without first stating that they are fools, like in psalms 53:1-3?

It would be nice to see Ben with a calvinist and non calvinist. Calling calvinism christianity is debatable. Ben did a great job asking questions when talking to alley stuckey

Think about it.

Please do more on this subject!!! I know many people who are moving away from traditional Christian holidays and going back to Jewish holidays. Their arguments is Jesus celebrated them and Christians have adopted pegan holidays. I thought Jesus fulfillment release us from the law. Maybe I’m mistaken?

I I’m not sure if they gonna pull off a self fulfilled phrophecy or not?

The background music is really distracting

You should debate him officially!

I’d love to see a collaboration with you and Rabbi Tovia Singer on if Jesus fulfilled the prophecies of the messiah.

Great stuff around the 7-min mark, what you're bringing up is the argument Paul makes in Roman 9. Not all children of Abraham are part of God's promise. It's always been grace through faith

I have watched John MacArthur, William Lane Craig, and Voddie Bauchman witness to Ben Shapiro and I don't think he " hears" the Gospel, so I pray the Holy Spirit regenerates Ben so he will hear the Gospel.

YES YES! YES PLEASE DO put Ben Shappiro in his place. Keep us posted

Isaiah 43:10-11 44:-6-8 Zechariah 8:23 true or false

Please do a face to face 🙏

Ooh it gets soo much deeper I could go on and on! But wont

And what parties were involved in killing Jesus?

Can you do a video on Hebrew roots??!

Pastor Jeff, have you ever invited Ben to a debate? I don't think he would oppose. He's already had conversations with pastor John Macarthur and dr. William Lane Craig.

Revelations 2:9 & 3:9, John 8:44 and Acts 7:43.

Brother, you should mute your audio when the clip is playing. I can hear your breathing and it’s distracting.

Yes it’s clear Ben has never read Paul’s impassioned letter to the Galatians and then the more measured letter to the Romans.

Brother everything i hear sounds spot on. I havent watched all your stuff but the stuff i have watched i dont see any preaching of the law. The sabbath, the high sabbaths, the preaching of worshiping of false Els.

One thing missed in this video is also that for most Jewish Atheists Ben and Jeff are not speaking to what these people think. Most Jews who call themselves Jewish atheists arent thinking about Jewish practice (aka Judaism). They are identifying with their Jewishness (culture and lineage which YES does have some to do with traditions at times).

How do you love the Lord your God with all your heart if you are an athiest though?

As smart as Ben can be in some things, and I don't mean this disrespectfully but I don't know how else to say it, he is completely incompetent on theological thinking. I remember around the time he tried to write that ridiculous book on religion and all the nonsense he was spouting from it, well it made it clear to me. I remember I saw in an interview he was basically asked what his view of an afterlife is from Judaism and he basically said you get literally absorbed into God and become part of Him. Basically merge with Him and literally become part of God's being. [sound familiar to any new age/eastern religions?]. Maybe his view has changed but I was shocked when I heard him saying that. I think it was some interview around the time he was writing that book about religion. And honestly, what do you expect? Look at the Christians that are with him on the Daily Wire. I mean they were once asked in an interview that from a Christian perspective did they think that Ben Shapiro might have to be held accountable for his sins and go to hell because he rejects Christ, and I know at least the ones who spoke up basically joked to get out of it but basically said nah he will make it to heaven anyway probably. I mean it was a ridiculous answer that you had sitting there 4 Christians with Ben and not one of them when presented actually could state what Jesus clearly taught on the subject. Don't get me wrong I love the daily wire guys but it was quite sad. I mean I get Klavan is a pretty liberal Christian cause he has trouble with the homosexuality being wrong thing [not that he is homosexual, but that it is wrong in general], and Knowles and Walsh are both Catholic so that does effect quite a bit their view on salvation [but even in the Catholic view, Ben isn't making it to Heaven dude..... well I guess unless Pope Francis has his way and everyone does cause whatevz] and Jeremy Boring seems to constantly take scripture out of context and twist it for his own points and seems to have quite a bit of disdain for people who take the Bible for what it actually means [just my impression on him from watching him a lot when these questions come up][and he is a prime example of a pick and choose what parts of the bible you like sort of guy, and then reinterpret the stuff you don't like out of it, and then anyone who wants the Bible to actually mean what it says he says they are worshiping the Bible and using it as a totem or something and gets all mad at them]. But it was still sad. They are nice guys and they say they are Christians, but can't even tell someone the basic fundamentals of Jesus when asked on it. Not one of them and then even says the opposite. Don't get me wrong, I quite like all of them over there at the Daily Wire of that group. But you almost have to turn off the video if they try and talk deeply about religious issues. Oh sometimes they make a few good points, sure, but often it ends up being just ridiculous and theologically a joke despite them being quite smart on other issues.

What were some of the Rabbinic answers to the question of how a human being could see the Lord and live? According to Exodus 33:20, God said to Moses, ‘You cannot see my face, for no one may see me and live.’ Yet in Exodus 24:9-11, less than ten chapters earlier, we read, ‘Moses and Aaron, Nadab and Abihu, and the seventy elders of Israel went up [Mount Sinai] and saw the God of Israel…But God did not raise his hand against these leaders of the Israrelites…How can this be explained? Abraham Ibn Ezra interpreted the text to mean that they saw God in a prophetic vision. Then why did God tell them in 24:1 to actually go up the mountain to the Lord, remaining at a distance from him while Moses alone drew near? And why does the text point out that God did not life his hand against them, as would have been expected? Obviously, this was more than a prophetic vision….The Targum also had a problem with these verses and could not translate them directly, rendering instead, ‘They saw the glory of the God of Israel…they saw the glory of the Lord.’ 42 Yet the text says, ‘They saw the God of Israel…they saw God.’” - Brown, Answering Jewish Objections to Jesus, Volume 2, Theological Objections, p. 28-29 As Dr. Brown explains, in order to avoid the conflict created by scripture’s declaration that certain figures actually saw YHWH, some ancient Jewish sources simply denied and then altered the plain meaning of the texts. This demonstrates that these ancient sources recognized that the standard reading of the text did indeed describe individuals seeing God. After all, if they didn’t perceive that the text taught that men had seen God, they would not have seen the need to alter the texts to avoid that very prospect. Commenting specifically on Exodus 3 as another example in which Moses is recorded as seeing God, Dr. Brown goes on to say the following. “‘Well,’ you might say, ‘what about Exodus 3. Doesn’t that chapter equate seeing the angel of the Lord with seeing God?’ You’re getting very close!…How does the Targum Onkelos translated the end of verse 6? Moses ‘was afraid to look beside the glory of the LORD.’ Once again, the Targum found it impossible to say what the Scripture said. It was too direct, too clear. Another Targum, called Pseudo-Jonathan, took this even further, translating that Moses was afraid to look at ‘the glory of the Shekhina of the LORD.’” - Brown, Answering Jewish Objections to Jesus, Volume 2, Theological Objections, p. 30 From the quote above, we can once again clearly see that the ancient Jewish Targums recognized that for men to see YHWH God and live was problematic. But rather than coming to the conclusion that Moses’ reached when he faced this same problem, the Targums came up with alternate explanations. As we saw earlier in Exodus 33-34, Moses reconciled the fact that men saw God with the axiom that seeing God would bring death by concluding that men were seeing God in a humbler form, not his fully glorified form, which would be lethal to them. But what do the Targums conclude instead? The Targum Onkelos apparently altered the meaning of the text to suggest that Moses merely looked “beside” the glory of God rather than looking directly. The Targum Pseudo-Jonathan adopted its own explanation, asserting instead that Moses didn’t look at YHWH God himself but at a being, emissary, or aspect of God designated by the title “the Shekhina.” However, it is worth noting that in the Targum Pseudo-Jonathan the term “Shekhina” is simply being used as an interchangeably title for the figure known as “the angel of YHWH.” But by identifying the figure that Moses saw as “the Shekhina,” this solution actually acknowledges that the text is identifying “the angel of YHWH” or “the Shekhina” by the name “YHWH God.” Rather than avoiding or providing an alternative to the Trinitarian conclusion, this solution ends up affirming it. And ultimately, as we can see, the ancient Jews recognized the fact that according to the Old Testament, to see the angel of YHWH is to see YHWH God. Ancient Jewish sources recognized the issues raised by these facts. But their attempts to explain it either alter the text, don’t differentiate significantly in form from the Trinity, or raise the specter of sub-deities as the God of the Exodus. Commenting still further, Dr. Brown cites additional examples and summarizes both the predicament and the attempted solution, which was simply to alter the wording. “According to Exodus 33:20, no one can see God or his face and live. Yet the Hebrew Bible preserves numerous instances of people ‘seeing God.’…Exodus 24:9-11 states that Moses and a select group of Israelites saw God, who did not strike them down. The Targum says that they saw the glory of God…Jacob, who wrestled with the angel of the LORD, said that he had seen God face to face (Gen. 32:30). The Targum changed this to, “I have seen the angel of the LORD face to face.” The exact same change is made in Judges 13:22. In Exodus 3:1-6, the angel of the Lord, equated with the Lord himself in the text, appeared to Moses in flaming fire in a bush, and Moses looked away because he was afraid to look at God. The Targum says that he was afraid to look near the glory of the LORD.” - Brown, Answering Jewish Objections to Jesus, Volume 2, Theological Objections, p. 29-30 Fourth, ancient Judaism recognizes that the figure known as the Spirit of YHWH is also regarded as being a distinct yet equal figure within the Godhead of YHWH in similar fashion to the angel of YHWH. This can be seen in the following two quotes. The first quote, which we have seen earlier, comes from Microsoft Encarta and in it Encarta describes how the Word and the Spirit of God were regarded as “secondary divine beings.” Specifically, Britannica uses the plural “beings,” indicating that the Word and the Spirit were regarded as distinct rather than being regarded as different titles for the same being or figure.

The Word of Hod says that many will be deceived and spiritually blinded due to their rejection of Jesus Christ.

What did Ezekiel see???!! In His time?

At 04:55 great salient points. Also in the Genesis 15 passage, God puts Abraham asleep so he's 100% passive & Jehovah is 100% performing Covenant Promise by HIMSELF. Now that's "the Sovereignty of GOD" in action. Sad to say, Ben Shapiro & his branch of "faith" has re-written God's Covenant in terms sensible to them, something they can perform. "Strange Fire" is nothing new...

Did Ezekiel see? Wickedness in high places ? Plotting planning?

Oh boy this is gonne be something epic i love Ben Shapiro and will pray for him 😇🥹

Is it not true Abraham was justified by the obedience of faith? So in a sense he was justified by his obedience, but the obedience was his faith.

Ooh that video I think was made by no more news? Adam green the debate w dr Mike brown

I wonder if new legislation and police’s are being re written

You got to stop thinking that modern day "jews" like Shapiro, have anything to do with the Old Testament. They have the Talmud, which is their New Testament, and which even instructs to contradict the Torah on many occasions. Second, there was no such thing as "jews" even in Biblical times. There was stock of the prophets Abraham, Issac and Jacob, and the Israelites, and there were Judeans, who were the "mixed multitudes" of Canaanites etc.... Even Paul said he's a "Hebrew" propper term, and when he stated he's a "Jew of Tarsus" he meant location Judean, like a Californian.

How can you say obey God and yet do not even obey His instructions to assemble yourselves on His designated holy days which lay out the entire plan of salvation? You don’t need a temple to gather and worship. The sacrifice has been made so that’s not required. It just seems logical that God would rather we honor the days He designated rather than the days man created (ex: Christmas).

Right now!!!!!!!!

This is what I mean by a big army ! And there’s more then that!!! Many organizations are being used also!

very based

Let’s have a real conversation and talk about Kabbalah and the Talmud. You know, things Jews actually believe in

Theses soooo much happening!!!! I see a huge army attacking the New Testament.

Please do debate Ben. I pray that he would accept our Lord Jesus Christ as his Messiah. Thank you for all you do at apologia studios!