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Amazing. Years of fighting recoil, other instructors with clamp down, bear down, torque, crank this, lean into it, everything tense and fighting the gun, etc, etc and I was consistently shooting the second shot of a double low. Using knowledge from the past few weeks of these videos I’m shooting more relaxed, splits are faster, and I’m no longer driving the gun down. Still have work to do to get rid of those training scars but I’m getting there. Thanks Ben.
OK I'm super glad that you've confirmed kind of what I had to figure out for myself in my training/practice. I compete in Bullseye which is fairly different, but for awhile I was being very, very tense in the rapid/timed fire strings and would find most of my shots going in the 9/10/X ring and about 2 or 3 of them going into the 7 or even 6 ring. One day I decided I'm just going to NOT focus on "controlling recoil" at all. I gripped the pistol super loosely and just focused on getting the sights back on target and on having proper trigger control and, even though the gun was going way, way up after every shot, I would recover, get my sight picture/sight alignment, and fire again. That's when I started to print groups that were all in the 9 and 10 rings with the occasional out in the 8 or a scratch 9. I was focused way too much on reducing the overall amount of muzzle rise rather than recovering and getting back on target, which is the real meaning of "recoil control," not controlling the direction or overall rise of the muzzle. I've sort of evolved into only gripping the pistol tightly but don't focus at all on tensing up really any other part of my body. It seems just gripping the gun tighly in your hand is the biggest contributor to controlling muzzle rise. Yesterday I just had a 99/100 target in timed fire practice with the overall group size at about 3.5" at 25 yds.
Hey man, sorry to jump you like this, but I'm wondering if there is a good place to find Bullseye matches? I've been looking forever, none seem to be close to me, but I haven't found a good central repository of matches like Practiscore or whatnot. Any advice? Thanks!
I had the same realization last time at the range and did the same exact thing: stopped over-focusing on how tight my grip was, relaxed, fixed on straight back trigger pull, and sight picture. Made me shoot about 40% better
Damn good shit! Love these videos. Of course it would be better attending a full class in person, but just these short videos are extremely helpful. No “tricks”. No “tacticool” BS. No made up fancy words. Just plain, concise and common sense instruction.
Watching these videos just makes me want to take your class more. You have a good way in demonstrating and teaching for the student to grasp. Awesome video and content!!
I don’t always subscribe. But when I do 😊. I wish people and resources were around when I was in my 20’s in the 80’s. Advice we got was “just do it like Jack Weaver” 😅
Great stuff. I've just started to embrace being target focused vs dot focused and damn, it makes a difference! I'm already on board with not going crazy fighting recoil and just finding your more or less relaxed grip happy place. That makes a big difference as well. Altho I do tend to to better rotating my arms out a bit and I admit I'm a thumbs on the safety and frame kinda guy.
Wow yeah this is gold. Most gun teachers really struggle to put into words what they are actually doing and you have to guess like crazy. This feels so much better i wish I was at the range right now to try it all
This is such a divergence from everyone else I've seen in the instructor community. I think you just pissed off every company that makes compensators, and every grip bro that says to smash the gun. From my own dry fire, i feel like the reason to have any strength in my grip, besides loosing control of the gun in recoil, is to pin my middle finger from squeezing the grip and throwing the shot. Does that sound right?
In his last video he discussed releasing your middle finger to throw a bird then return it to the gun.. Meaning, that your little finger and ring finger are held tight with your middle finger held light enough to remove it up and back from your grip. This he said allows your middle finger grip to not affect your trigger finger.
Awesome info. Thanks. Who needs a compensator or porting ? With your proper grip, staring at the spot, and letting the gun return predicable no one does.
I would think it would be better if the dot doesn't leave the window and us predictable, compared to being predictable and leaving the window. I would think you can shoot faster with less muzzle flip.
@@lordhellfire153 I want the same color with Ben's logo on it. I went to the pro shop and very limited stock (no glock). Went to the holster company but could not find the exact one. I'm going to email the holster company.
Great tips but for me as a learner this is information overload. Should break up the instructions, have students demonstrate, then move onto the next exercise. Cheers!
This is from a class where shooters are paying to get instruction from a world class champion. He just puts this online cuz he's a nice guy. Just soak it in, go try stuff, then watch it again.
@@MrCrimsonKingexcept I don’t think he’s talking about the online content. I took it as him saying *if he was at the class* it would be information overload. Not that getting all these videos is that. 😂
Ben adjusts the hangers on his holsters so that the grips are all at the same angle with respect to his belt and uses techniques that let him maintain the same grip across different guns (thumbs not touching the gun, for example).
@@ShootingSportsandAccesso-sd9li Thanks! What about in terms of getting the optic presented to the right spot? It's of course different for the grip angles between the Shadow 2 and G34s he uses.
@@rsmoz Hey sorry for the super delayed reply; I never got a notification. Ben switches guns regularly and dry fires with them all fairly regularly. He's said in the past it takes him about a week to three weeks of dry and live fire to get fairly used to a new gun, but that if he were to try to try to, say, win a major competition, he would dedicate his time to that gun for several months to that one platform. I can't point to an exact episode of his podcasts, but I've been watching them since at least '16.
