I watched this a few weeks ago and ordered one on the strength of your review along with the new mk ii fence and a few other bits to add to my increasing amount of Benchdogs stuff. It's all arrived this week and I'm exceptionally pleased. Tonight. I've just watched your Precision Triangle review. That's going to be my next purchase as it will complement my MFT set up, particularly for narrow cuts. It stands way above my big Woodpeckers Square for it's adaptability on the MFT alone. So, the Woodpecker will be getting sold to fund the Precision Triangle. Thanks for the input Andy, it's certainly going to make my set up much better.
Great explanation of all the extra holes Andy, a very nice tool indeed, I do love their products. I currently use a 206mm Mirock Square with an oak fence, beautifully made 👍.
I have a beautiful square with a rosewood handle and brass blade. It’s as square as a circle - but it’s nice. Over time I have moved to the Incra products for quality of workmanship and accuracy. But the range of squares that Benchdogs are now producing are bringing a high level of accuracy at an affordable price. Cheers Andy
I'm not sure that your quote "this is 0.005° plus or minus" is correct. I've just checked the product page and as of June 2024 they are only claiming "the machined part is accurate within 5 microns and ensuring the angles are accurate within +-0.05 degrees". I think this may only be referring to the visible angle markings. I can't find them publicly making any guarantees about the physical angle accuracy of any of their squares. It may've been something that he mentioned to you in person, but it doesn't seem to be a claim they're making publicly.
i'm not sure about their triangles or squares, but rail square came with a serial number and test documantion about accuracy specific to one you get, mine is came with 89.997°
looks like a great tool. i am very glad someone in Europe challenges woodpeckers at last. Review is also great, but rather focused on positive sides which is ok as well considering product quality. I noticed it may be a bit inconvenient marking a 45° angle, since the line won't start from the stock edge. That's ok as well for it's nice to have a short ruler, but shall be rather mentioned.
Hi it is a great tool, and not any negatives that I can see. In terms of your question about the 45 angle. You put the two ref pins in the pivot and the zero degree hole. That then brings the 45 to the edge stock. So you end up with the short ruler and the functionality you are looking for. I should have mentioned that in the video, sorry for any confusion. Cheers Andy
Great video Andy, lovely piece of kit but i reckon Benchdogs are missing loads of sales by being 30% to expensive for hobby woodwokers..... Nice to see you back and loving the better camera angles.
Hi Paul, Thank you, yes the new angles are working out pretty well - and actually easier than the old set up, go figure. Horses for course on the perception of value in the shop. For me accuracy is worth the cost - and when I compare this to other products I think it is a good price. I was over at a makers market in Cheshire the other weekend, I did wonder if I would you there. I was checking it out to see if I wanted to do it next year. Are you doing the circuit this year up to Christmas ? Talk soon. Cheers Andy
Hi Marc Yes very nice, it all comes down to the acceptable accuracy in your work. I would agree this would be over the top for most builds, but I just love precision. I still get stunned when something fits perfectly, it’s like a religious feeling. But I am incredibly sad….. Cheers Andy
As a weekend warrior also I’m of the opinion that I have even less time to correct and adjust to errors or less precision, meaning knowing my tooling is reliable and accurate is even more important than if I had more time to work with it.
@@Extragonk valuable input Paul. But to my mind, I’d assume weekend warriors don’t have disposable income or limited at best. Hence the “weekend warrior” tittle. Maybe some clarity is required in terms of marketing. Let’s be honest, the majority of users I’ve encountered following this type of Chanel are DIY guys.
Hi Marc and Paul, I guess it depends on what folks gauge as important - I know weekend warriors that buy every tool going and some that save up and buy a select few of value add. Neither are wrong, it depends on what you want to get out of the hobby. This channel tend to have a great mix of business centric woodworkers and DIY and just some folks who are interested but don’t partake. All welcome here and no opinions are wrong. Cheers Andy
@@marconeill9510 I'm definitly on the same train as Paul Noble here, my primary limitation is time, secondary limitation is money spent. Making wrong cuts and having things being inaccurate is a killer for both of these and it annoys me, since this is a hobby and nothing I can recoup money with so, for me, the more accurate and less annoying things are the better it is for me.
I would just add if you put one pin in the pivot hole and one in the hole near the 40mm on the short edge and 5° hole it will scribe a full lenght 45° line.
Agree, I have been using Benchdogs products since the very first MK1 fence system. Every innovation adds more functionality to the shop, it’s great to see a UK family business going from strength to strength. Cheers Andy
Finally a "carpenter" square that is precise! I can't stand the deviation on every single carpenter square I've used. Of course it's not a big deal if you are dealing with beams and rough work, but they are of no use for long sheet material or checking squareness in cabinet making.
This one is designed with accuracy and the workshop in mind, you will notice the lack of hip angles and the like. Definitely not designed for roof and beams. High level of accuracy, no nonsense well made product. It will happily co-exist with my precision squares. Cheers Andy
I appreciate that these will be milled very accurately, but isn't there always going to be slop in the thread? So that +-0.005degrees of accuracy probably isn't very representative? I'm sure it's still very very accurate though .... just not as accurate as being made out :)
@@TheWoodgrafter A nut and bolt always has to have some slop, else the thread would bind as you were turning the knob. So unless it has some self centering countersink, each time you screw it tight, it could be slightly different.
