"Bendy Bill" Geissele vs "Marky Mark" LaRue 

Primary Arms has the last old stock LAT handguards on their site as of this video going up, but I don't think they expect to restock them after they're gone.

The best part about Larue isn’t a product-it’s Mark’s one-man conquest to win every single argument on the internet.

“You will Larue the day” had me weak. 😂

Hop: "I'm going to buy every product this company sells!" Company: **shuts down**

The upcoming 'full Larue' build is what makes it worth contributing to this channel.

7:48 "Mark my words, you will LaRue the day you crossed me" Holy shit

People on the internet: I can't understand why LaRue makes these weird meme products. Also people on the internet: hell yes, I'm absolutely getting this weird meme product.

Funny that you should make this video. I had been a long time buyer of LaRue products and had written many positive reviews on his website. One time though, I wrote a tongue-in-cheek review of a product, (it was still a 5 armadillo review), where I was upset that I didn't get a jar of "Dillo Dust." In the review, I jokingly said that was the reason I buy LaRue products. Five minutes after posting, the review was wiped from the site and later I learned that all my reviews were MIA. Someone couldn't take a joke.

I was a MASSIVE LaRue fan girl for the last 15 years. The dillo dust was awesome and it's just so nice to get little freebies with your order. I bought a bunch of stuff from them over the years because the prices were fantastic, the quality was unbeatable and of course the freebies added a big dash of fun. You always anticipated your LaRue package because you never knew what goodies would be in it. Then the dillo dust dried up and blew away. Each new package had less and less freebies until there were none. Then the prices skyrocketed and the joy is gone. Now they are just another high end AR part provider in a long list of similar companies. The magic has disappeared and I've moved on. LaRue still offers fantastic parts but so do lots of other companies.

the real Amy Giessele is the friends we made along the way

The ‘el-jefe’ rifle looks like it was designed by the same company that made the folding aluminum table in my basement.

Bless him for not selling to tyrannical governments

Anytime something starts with "lemme tell you a story about mark larue" you know its going to be good

LOL, Hop is literally a moving death note.

Bought a geissele trigger first and loved it. Built a new rifle and needed a new trigger. Bought a LaRue trigger for fun. I’ve never felt more ripped off that realizing I could have bought a LaRue and got basically a slightly better geissele trigger for half the cost.

From the future: It turns out Hop loves the accurizer, he sings its praises in a video, and LaRue promptly discontinues it. Hop then claims he never really loved it, it was just a LaRuse to get it discontinued…

Glad to see my jank AI art made it into the video 😍

Larue still wins in my books, but man Mark is a strange dude, and I am so bummed they changed their prices. Luckily I got their qd 30mm mount a week before the price changes. Thanks for the content sir, and keep up the strong work. "You will Larue the day"

Geissele releasing rails that were clearly designed for 5 axis machining, then cut on a 3 axis mill instead and then calling the horribly ugly scallops "advanced 3D machining" will never not be funny to me.

I am a big fan of Larue. Everything I’ve owned from them has been flawless in function and stupid accurate. Mark is kind of an Alex Jones personality in the gun world. There’s always some level of drama and some of his products are definitely troll level kit, which I applaud.

You can still buy these Larue handguards on primary arms right now. They are called the Larue stealth 1.0. Not sure if exclusive on PA, or limited run.

I miss the BBQ rub. I do still use the armadillo-shaped bottle opener he threw in the box though.

This is a fantastic breakdown of my favorite soap opera

About the C-Note: a non-Larue company makes a rail and RMR plate which mount to the C-Note in place of the Larue plate. I know what my meme gun is getting.

The nice thing about 15" handguards is you can have any length under 15" if you're committed enough. You can't add 3" to a 10" rail as easily.

Goddamn that pun at the end got me. I can’t wait to see that insane LaRue build. Great content as always, much love from Texas!

I once saved up enough to get a geissele handguard, added it to chart and thought to myself that it is insane to pay so much for a handguard. In that moment of clarity, I went straight to midwest industry and got a LW one instead and never looked back.

This is the Hop-iest of Hop content...it is beautiful and because of videos like this...Hop forever has a special place in our hearts.

*What I got out of this video:* If I start an AR parts company all I have to do is holdout till Hop mentions it then I can double the prices.

Larue literally doubled the price of their upper like a week before I hit my mark for saving for one. Mark LaRue could care less and was a total ass about the whole thing.

I was wondering why LaRue prices jumped (even the fantastic LBT-2S went from $89.95 to $115). I've always been a fan of LaRue products (and I do miss the Dillo Dust and the armadillo bottle openers), but there is a lot of good stuff out there for similar prices now. I only own two Geissele products which I really like: the airborne charging handle, and the maritime bolt release...both purchased at significant discount. I have a couple of ALG AK triggers which are excellent. I'm probably not alone in the fact I will NEVER buy a $250+ trigger for any reason, regardless of having the funds to do so. There's a bit too much 'tacticool tax' on firearm accessories for me.

A gem of a video. I laughed more than I should. Thanks Hop!

Probably the darkest timeline is getting a flat top upper with a 1913 gas block, mounting an a4 carry handle and front sight to it, then mounting an AccARizer rail to that, and putting a C-Note on top of that. The only thing I can think of worse than that is doing all of that on top of an AK with a side rail to 1913 adapter.

This is a sacrifice for the algorithm gods. Also Hop, James and Tfb tv are so underrated it hurts.

YAY! Story time with hop!!!

That was the best video i've seen in a week. Thank you for helping a jaded old man laugh

ALG rails were the best as a first time builder. The instructions and barrel nut wrench without needing a torque wrench were perfect for a beginner

Came for the title, stayed for the puns.

You’re the best Hop! Keep it up dude!

the story of my gd life as well Hop.. any piece of kit, clothing, shoe, beverage or whatever it doesnt matter that I fall in love with gets discontinued. I now buy like 10 of anything i come across that I really enjoy.

I have a Gen 1 OBR-H and 2 Gen 3 PredatAR/OBR-Lite and I swear I will go to heaven singing the praises of Larue Tactical products! They are simply the best out there! The engineering behind each part is second to none and the rifles flat out SHOOT! 1/4 minute in a 16in 5.56 is incredible! Like I said, they’re nothing in this world better than a Larue tactical rifle!! 🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸

"like mosts boomers on the internet" that line hits different the older you get

Really enjoyed, thanks

I tried one of those ALG handguards last year to replace an old midwest quad rail, and i can confirm they're a great value. I did have to purchase the barrel nut wrench, and the shims are a bit fiddly, but overall a very good product. I hope Larue gets it together. I've always liked the company and their products, especially when their triggers were $89. It used to be that you could buy eotechs/aimpoints from them, with their great mounts for like $50 more than everybody sold the naked optics for. Not sure if it's still thst way.

Mark LaRue blocks anyone critical on Twitter....dude hates customers.

ALG stands for Almost Like Geissele

For me Black Friday sales are for buying Geissele gear. The SSA-E trigger is amazing, don't pay full price for one. If you're patient you can score them for under $150 from online vendors durning the major holiday sales. PSA blows them out several times a year.

Great video hop. Gave me a good laugh.

Fun fact Bill Geisselle and LaRue are the same person. I mean I never seen them in the dame room together.

This was a fun one. I would enjoy more "this guy vs that guy" product reviews.

Best Hop video

this was your best work

Hop. You are the man.

Super Secret Tech Tip: If a hand guard is too long, cut it shorter between MLOK braces. Then it is the right length. Which is good.

Primary Arms has the “New” LaRue M-Lok Stealth handguard. Same old attachment method. 12 in is $179.99. 9 and 7 also in stock.

We love you Hop!

My cousin is a huge fan of the V2 ALG rail. He has a few of them. I'm a fan of both Larue and Geissele. There's many others that have done the industry a good service with great products. Especially on the America's rifle front. I'm guilty of buying Geissele triggers when they go on sale. The last ones I bought were open box Super Tricon's that Primary Arms had. $165 each and I like that trigger shoe the best. I would buy a Larue though. And may in the future.

Larue building a rail that comes over the top of the of the carry handle is a wild concept when you could just make a two piece quad rail and carry handle mount separate. Or idk. A gooseneck

Thanks!

La*Rue* the day you crossed me is exactly the kind of writing i come here for.

Literally LOLed at "LaRUE the day." Love videos like this.

I was just installing a 7 inch m-lok and load handguard on my ar last night, what are the odds. Great video!

Looking forward to the follow up video XD

I bought a Larue Stealth barrel years ago for $220.00 and shoots awesome 👍

The most honest guntuber out there, love u

I keep telling people to watch Hop's stuff. I hope they're here watching.

I love your videos like this. Full of knowledge, nuance, and bs. Keep it up.

Part of me can understand price changes when we are suffering from what appears to be 40% inflation in a few years. But it also sounds like a change in goals for the company

I had the LAT and SAT rails. The LAT is currently at the machine shop getting the worst idea ever fixed..... That means the area that will only allow tiny little gas blocks to pass through is being opened up to allow my piston gas block to pass through. I like Larue but they will never be on the level of Geissele. The only thing that is comparable is the trigger. The Larue has a captured disconnector and a very solid 2nd stage wall. None of the Geissele triggers have a 2nd stage wall that is as defined as the Larue, but that's not necessarily a bad thing.

I will keep my headcanon that he stopped making the MLOK handguards to make room in his production for more C-Notes and AccARizers.

Loved the video 😂🎉

I loved the ALG rails. Still do. I like the slightly larger circumference compared to some of the slimmer grips that seem to be the standard lately. And I prefer the 15” over shorter, I don’t like having so much barrel exposure, just looks weird imo. Thank you Hop for the video…. I APPRECIATE you…. My bank account on the other hand, not so much lol.

Oh, I’m Hop! Whenever I say I love products the manufacturer discontinues them!! You know what I love? Laure Quad rails!

I have a sneaky suspension that we may see the discontinued LaRue hand guards resurrected. Not because of popularity but just to stick it to Geissele and deprive them of additional income. Or it could be wishful thinking for LaRue to come in at the last minute like an adventure film. One can hope!

When Larue dropped their complete lowers for 200 bones it was an insane deal.

The old ALG rails were amazing. Always regretted cutting one down but custom comes at a price.

Bought my Larue 18" 6.5 G upper kit a few years ago for like 700 bucks. Came with eveything but a stripped lower. That was a steel. Extremly accurate. Have 4 of the MBT 2S triggers back when they were 69 bucks. Pistol grips are comfy and used to be like $9.00. The QD ACOG mount is solid. Have a couple RAD stocks laying around (cool concept, but they rattle). Also have a riser for the CTR stock. Got Three Geissele triggers Super Scar, 2x SSA-E. Got the SSA-E's for 150 bucks each. A little better than the MBT 2S, but not 2x the price better IMO.

Just glad to see ALG stuff out again... fingers crossed for another run of 6 Second mounts

I got the LaRue Tactical MBT-2S straight bow trigger a little bit ago and I love it; however, I kept it in my cart long enough to see the price jump up $20-30 before my eyes. Heart breaking that I spent more money on it, but hell, still a great price for the trigger.

a very interesting video and discussion.

I, too, have been confused by some of the decisions they've made. I loved when the triggers could be had for $70. And oddly enough, they don't offer any type of military discount.

I just bought a larue mbt-2s and found that they have softened the edges of the trigger and added a slight bevel to the outer 1/4 of the trigger face. It's still a great trigger, but the squared edges and wide flat face where what I loved about it. The first 3 of their triggers I bought previously all had the features I liked.

I feel your pain, I have four or five of the ALG handguards becuse they are so great and have avoided the Geissele ones because they seem so big and goofy looking. My favorite grip for the AR is the Stark Industries SE-1 but they are getting harder to find, even straight from their own website sometimes, so I panic bought an extra four just in case. My problem also extends to vehicles because every car, truck, or van that I like or think looks good gets discontinued or they stop importation of them. Sometimes being a generalized NPC that goes with the status quo seems like such an easy tempting life, I just can't bring myself to do it.

the barrel and hatchet cut was savage

Pure gold.

OMFG this is the tactical celebrity death match I've been waiting for!!!!!

Also the AccARizer couldn't have been released at a worse time. He made it with the thought of "No one is using their old carry handle ARs, let's give them something to get some use out of them". Dude should have know that retro ARs have been ridiculously popular for the past 5ish years. Maybe a decade ago when the craze wasn't there or a decade from now when the craze dies out, but right now retronerds want carry handles FOR the carry handle.

Hop consistantly releasing great videos 👉👌

The Larue Stealth 2.0 upper/handguard is a great system. My most accurate AR has that with a JP barrel. I highly recommend. I bought a PredatAR barrel years ago. That was a disappointment. It shot 62 grain ammo better than anything I've seen. It could not shoot any 69-77 gr worth a hoot. I like the Larue trigger better than even the Geissele national match trigger.

I'm glad you called my favorite rifle as ugly and my picks for it lol

Yea, talk about the A.R.M.S. SIR all you want, they discontinued my boy long ago and Ill never have a full Burgertown upper without paying a premium

More of this MORE!!!

Just discovered your channel. I like what I am hearing which is someone actually being honest and calling out these fuckers for their price gouging and shit products. I might’ve just found my new favorite RU-vidr.

If you can find one, you should try the Troy Alpha rail. INCREDIBLY rigid, durable, and good-looking. Some even had a folding front sight incorporated into the rail. As far as scope mounts, GG&G makes a QD scope mount that is actually better than the Larue (I own several of both) and is half the price. EDIT: The C-Note was actually a good idea at one time. It was a "pistol" style blade sight that fit BATFE's effed-up pistol-brace worksheet. If that had gone through, a C-Note with tritium inserts would have been a big help towards keeping a "legal" braced pistol. As it turned out, it was a solution to a problem that we never had to deal with.

you were not kidding... I love their scope mounts and been being them for a bit... after revisiting them and checking out the same scope mount a few years later... omg price doubled...

I have one of those Larue handguards on my 14.5" AR and love it.

I listen to hop as I fall asleep...

You will Larue the day you met me. One of the best Hop lines ever.

LaRue makes some fine, tightly machined AR's and parts. Great barrels, too

Mark increased his prices so he can buy another plane.