Stick with it ... Your doing better than you give yourself credit for ... I can't even see a future without methadone or benzos... Take care and keep progressing 👍🏼
I hear you. I've had two seizures trying to come off clonazepam too quickly. I feel like these benzos have really messed with my nerves. And I would quit the subs first. Benzo withdrawal like u say is a nightmare. Opiate withdrawal is more like a bad case of the flu.
@@adamlocastro2224 well I'm still on clonazepam so I feel its keeping the seizures away. But I would have to taper very slowly in order to get off these. I feel ur pain with withdrawal and god forbid u run out if u take it everyday.
Was a pill abuser for about 12 yrs, hard life and very expensive. Started Subs about 13yrs ago and it saved my life literally. I'm a normal non felon committing father of a much better than me 13yro girl and just celebrated my 19yr of marriage. Ill always be on suboxone 3 a day and thats fine.
I’ve been on sub longer than anyone I’ve ever heard of. Being serious. I’m currently in the last stages of finally getting off. If I understand what you’re saying is you’re taking 3 films or doses per day? TRUST me when I tell you that’s way way more than you need. The first few years I was on it my original doctor wasn’t very smart / ethical about it but it was basically a new medication. No one I knew even heard of it for a long time after I’d been on it. He was way overprescribing it to me. My point is at least 18 years I’ve been very comfortable on one film a day. Sometimes I’d ask to bump up to 1snd1/2. I know everyone is different and definitely not preaching and I’m not even sure that’s what you meant so I apologize if I misunderstood. But I’ve been on this journey and it probably did save my life honestly, since 2003 with sub. And honestly I can’t even believe it’s legal to prescribe more than at the very most 2 doses a day.@ each(8mg). Nobody needs that much. I guarantee it would not be that hard to taper down to 1 dose per day. I swear. Today is day 40 since I quit. I hope the worst is over. 21 years I’ve had sub on my person and took it as prescribed for 21 years. And now I have none at all. The pharmacy has had my script ready for many weeks but I’m not going to go get them. It sounds like you have a great family and a lot going for you, that’s why I took the time to give you this advice. If someone is telling you 24 mg is a good thing for you… they are either ignorant or corrupt. Good luck and Godspeed.
I have been on suboxone for awhile now. I haven't touched a street drug in over 15 years. From my experience and a short stretch with benzos, benzos are by far the worst drug ever to quit. It's not just withdrawals. Your mind changes. Your anxiety becomes red-lined. Your entire nervous system feels like an engine with the pedal to the floor. You are unable to function on any level. Mentaly and physically. I have dealt with withdrawals of every kind early in my life, but benzos are the worst. Nothing you can do ir take will help. Not even opiates. I am so glad it was only 2 or 3 months months of hell, but take my word, it will be the most difficult and debilitating thing you will ever deal with if you start taking benzos and quit or run out. You literally should exhaust every possible option before touching them. All it takes is a week or more of use and your screwed.
I LOVE HOW DR. B, HE TELLS IT, HOW IT IS AND DOESN'T SUGAR COAT ANY OF THE TRUTHS ABOUT ADDICTION AND COMES ACROSS AS VERY EMPATHETIC AND I APPRECIATE WHAT HE SAYS. ABOUT ANYTHING THAT EXPLAINS
I really wish my doctor would give me something for my anxiety as he used to do before the DEA decided to control every single little thing regarding benzodiazepines. Benzodiazepines are not opioids and are not involved In the opioid epidemic..
I NEED BOTH. I have anxiety symptoms now that mimic having a heart attack and I had to go to the ER just to find out that I had acute chest wall pain also known as costochondritis.
Well now they are I’m on benzodiazepines count your lucky stars that the doctor doesn’t give you those class of drugs I’m weaning off the benzodiazepines I’m on and I tell you it’s hard and more like hell. Takes years to wean off and the entire time you are living a nightmare you don’t want to ever live. But yes now drug dealers are selling benzodiazepines dope and those drug addicts are dropping like flies terrible drug weather it’s prescribed to you by a doctor or doing it illegally. I don’t wish the hell im going through weaning off on my worst enemy trust me. And this drug is yes been legally proscribed to me without letting me know the dangers of benzodiazepines. Been on it for years no more I’m a trooper and will get through this awful situation.
Dr. B again another awesome video and explanation!! I wish you could implement so much of what you know and how you operate to other clinicians. We need more people like you in the world ❤❤❤
I think benzodiazapines also are pretty stigmatized also. More and more psych doctors don't want to prescribe them or reduce them if they get a client on them.
I have a prescription for ativan and take it as needed which is once every few weeks for social events. The rest of the time, it stays in the back of my drawer. It is very helpful for some people, but not to be toyed with.
man u really hit nail on the head dr b . i have always suffered from anxiety .iam on 16 mg Suboxone daily for last 7 years with ciean drug test doing pretty good besides anxiety it has me cant sit down cant sleep panic attack's worrying all time .. i need some clam n able to think without the consuming anxiety .
Great Video! No Doubt, Dr. B's approach to dealing with Substance Abuse and all that encompasses is one of the Best. His intimate knowledge of how to taper with empathy is like no other. More Doctors and Psychiatrists need to hear and learn Dr. B's unique knowledge and methodology on Tapering. Time to start lecturing around the US, Dr. B!
I`d always do the benzos first again. Stayed off of them for almost 2 years, but they snuck in again from time to time. Its just so much pressure, anxiety and seriousness that i cant always take it.
Being on one helps you to get off the other, but benzos are the most difficult.imo. Doing benzos after you are off opiates becomes a different animal and you probably won't want them anymore. Benzos first is harder but better for a successful outcome. Good luck to all of us.
Thank you Dr B! Great topic, I get a lot of of your content and always walk away with more knowledge. I am very grateful for all your videos. I have been clean for more then 2 years now. These videos have really helped me understand my addiction and myself!
I really appreciate you taking the time to do the research to educate people that are really trying to get off of this stuff that is taking control of our lives thank you
I’m sad I missed this right when I was in the middle of my tapering which was much too fast. I would often research this for years. At least it’s here now and others don’t have to suffer the way I did. I abused both of my meds for a period of years. Now I am in the middle of benzo flu and began a job. Im already one tardy from a warning from my job. But I’m glad I have an awesome environment to work in.
How to get hooked up with Dr. B? He is in California, and I'm in Florida. Such a knowledgeable Doctor. I must agree with Wendy Cowe s statement. Thank you, Dr. B, for the great videos!
I honestly don’t care what they say, I assume they either are salty, because their Alcoholics or the person doesn’t have a clue, what its like as a chronic pain sufferer, Buprenorphine literally, saved my life & I wouldn’t jeopardize my sobriety & my management, I am blessed to have a truly good, Doctor.
that's 14 tablets of zoplicone a day........are you detoxing with help of doctor or doing it by yourself, that's a lot of zopiclone. Either way, good job for getting down to 35 a week, keep at it i'm proud of you for making the change for the better.
Hey.. Let me share my experience. I was on xanax 7 years. 0,25mg every night. Than i started using suboxon and i was 3 years on it on 10mg.. Than cocain .. First i stoped using cocain and my cuting off of suboxon lasted for 18monthd. I was slowly tapering. I came of,had a big crisis. I waited for one year and than i did the same with xanax. I am 3 years suboxon clean and 10months xanax clean. It is 1000% the most exausting thing i ever did. But i am so proud. Now i am dealing with fatigue but i guess i will need to wait for brain fog to go away?
this is exactly my problem so glad im seeing ppl are addressing this I take xan 12 mg and 6 mg of Suboxone and trying to taper but never seen or heard of a video like this one cuz I dont know were to start and I need off I need to fallow this been 4 yrs now started when trying to get off street drugs drug of choice H and can function good with those dosages
I have 4 years sober.my soboxone doctor is weaning me of that and my psychiatrist i trying to get me off my Valium (ive never abused my Valium, i have horrific anxiety and agoraphobia). They think im over sedated. But of course the f*cking Gabapentin is okay because ive been on that for 20 years. Om ready to lose my shit! Im okay with weaning off of the Suboxone. Im very lucky to have the doctor i have. Im just scared to death to come off my Valium. Im on 10mg 3 times a day. Ive been through benzo withdrawals and it was the most horrific withdrawal of my life. I ended up in the psych ward from a suicide attempt.
Good luck with coming off of benzos. I had a lot of issues coming off of them much like you. Been off 5 years and still have rebound anxiety and sleep issues.
Dr. B, love your channel, super informative, I've got a question, im 64, been on suboxone about 10 yrs.&xanax about 5 yrs(.5mg. Once daily, havn't abused drugs in years, want to quit, my question is do you think its safe to detox on my own, or should i be hospitalized, I'm scared of withdrawal, and my state of mind, have been having anxiety attacks lately.
wish you helped people from differant states i live in nh have medicade i know my doctor cut my off all my meds if she found out about opiod problem cant afford to withdrawl from valium and opiods at same time . places i called said you cant take both
It really sucks how your in chronic pain and you go to the doctor and they give you pain meds which in turn take away the pain which leads you to be productive and do the things you need to do then the doctor tells you that you have opioid use disorder so they take you off pain meds and put you on suboxone and you just have to deal with the pain it’s counterproductive
Suboxone is a great 'crutch' compared to Benzos! It's easy to slag off Subbies when sober especially! Then most are back on 'em after using Class A's or Codeine abuse. They're my insurance as not getting any younger. As for Benzo's they just make me lazy, but never been tapered off eg: Diazepam! No wonder had seizures when were stopped.
I had to do a benzo detox in the 90s, more of a mind freak than the Heroin shuffle, unpleasant, haven't had a tamaz/diaz/dycanol for decades 🤟💯🤠,stay cool Doc B 😎 🇬🇧❤🇺🇲👊🤠👍
Yes, I would 100% have to agree that it is very hard to find a doctor that is not only willing to work with you but also educated enough and I’m not sure exactly how to word this but I guess I kind of feel like progressive may be ahead of the curve especially me being in my position I am nobody special, but I have had a very unlucky set up circumstances that of happened to me throughout my lifetime, some of which were unavoidable like that I was diagnosed with ADHD hyperactivity, and just a very, very OCD obsessive compulsive a disorder when I was younger, and I was basically forced not only myself was I forced to take hard-core medication‘s at the age of six and seven years old but my mother was actually at the time this was back in the 80s and I remember the school actually trying to like threaten my mother that if she did not sedate me or put me on these medication’s that they would not let me go to school and then if I didn’t go to school that she would get in trouble and she wouldn’t lose custody of me it was crazy but they used to tell my mother all because they couldn’t handle me because I was bored with everything they were teaching us. I knew everything that they were teaching us and it just it was so boring. I couldn’t sit there and listen to the same thing 10 times over regardless I’m on the worst medication‘s that you can possibly get it sucking me a hell of a time trying to find doctors are all my life because I was in a motorcycle accident so I been on every pain medication. You can imagine. I have a lot of issues with like a chemical, imbalance bipolar, really bad, panic attacks and anxiety and a few other things needless to say and so I am on medication for stuff like that as well and it also doubles because one of the medication‘s is really good is used for a nerve blocker and some people take it to get messed up I guess but I don’t think it works like that. Somehow I don’t know why people take it. I think you have to be to drink alcohol with it or something but I’m on that plus I was on muscle relaxers, but I stopped taking those so I am on opiates, benzos and amphetamines all at the same time every month every day and the doctors have a hissy fit sometimes feeling at all but there’s nothing they can do because I’ve been on it since I was six years old and the doctors used to force my mother to make me take this stuff and no But I’ve got really lucky throughout my lifetime I was hit while I was riding my motorcycle and I took me a year and a half to learn how to walk again and I have nerve damage. I have a spinal hemangioma which is basically just a tumor growing around my L4 and L5 vertebrae so I deal with constant pain and shooting Nerve pain like electrical jolt going down the back of my leg or from my buttocks up to the back of my shoulder blades almost nerves do a lot of weird stuff. Needless to say it is very hard to find a doctor that has been willing to work with me throughout the years, seeing as how I think I’m gonna pretty much be on pain medication for the rest of my life. Unfortunately, I was prescribed everything from fentanyl to morphine OxyContin to delighted to Vicodin, basically I’ve been prescribed every single pain medication out there. The only one I did not get prescribed was the old Pana and that’s because that came out after I was lucky enough to stop taking all that vacation I was prescribed 20 mg oxycodone IR for instant release and breakthrough pain and then I was prescribed the highest I got was 60 mg OxyContin, which is just time release Oxycodone and then I was also the best pain medication that I’ve ever been on was 90 mg a day of dolophine which is an amazing pain medication but a lot of people look at it as if it has a bad stigma and it deters people from getting it as apainmed even though it’s probably in my book this pain medication that I have tried out there long this last thing in it works for not only physical and acute pain but also nerve pain and it helps to dull a lot of the sharp shooting pain full sensation… oh, so as I was saying, I’m on the trifecta of the worst of the worst that anybody can be prescribed. I have been on amphetamines😮 because my ADHDADD diagnoses when I was a kid with a slight possibility of maybe autism.
I went thru the misery of quitting suboxone & benzos.. Always taking as perscribed for a. # years later i laid there impossible to move work function in life. It just caused my whole family to turn on me and shame me to extreme depression..
I’m going to treatment 2/20/23 for the first time. I’m detoxing from Tramadol and Valium, 10 mgs daily. I’m so scared of being yanked off diazepam. It’s going to be bad enough just for Tramadol.
Hold on that's where I'm at now. I was on methadone and clonazapam for a long time at high doses. 6 years ago they took me off and I was just recently able to get on suboxone and then found a doctor who tapers according to the Ashton Manuel. I feel my benzo taper is way to fast and I'd rather just quit suboxone and get stable on a benzo and taper over a long period of time. What can I do? They are really strict with me
Cant get any practitioner to do this kind of treatment…..they hear the drug suboxone and they look at me like im crazy. On1 mg Klonopin bid and in total tolerance withdrawal with chronic pain.
Hi Dr B from england, i,m currently on 55mgs of valium street bought and i drink about 8 units of alcohol a night, my worker over here wants me to quit the drink and then try taper the valium which i don,t mind but i would love your advice, is it possible to taper the valium and still drink a little most nights as i have quite a social life, love your videos, wish we had clinicians like you over here!
Aye, plenty of MSJ's about let alone fake Diazee's/Bluies in 'strips/boxes'. Man if yours are 'The Real McCoy' each & every time then am envious ;-) , but not of Booze which when mixed with Vals is damn dangerous + don't remember doing stupid things/anything. Alcohol could be causing you problems from an Ex Alcoholic's point of view. A!l the best to ya..✌️
In the sublucade trial benzos and barbiturates were the only drugs we were not allowed to use with buprenorphine besides more buprenorphine. They really are not good for daily long term use. If they were i would take them. My anxiety is the full scale every month when im assessed by my psychiatrist and has been for many years.
@user-jt3kq3bg6z According to the original clinical study, it is not safe to use benzos or barbiturates with buprenorphine subcutaneous delivery. I understand that they are prescribed together by some doctors.
Dr. B do you recommend anyone in the Las Vegas area the issue I’m having oxycodone I abuse I always I was off for a year and a half on Suboxone and I started having panic attacks every time I dose. I lower the dose it wasn’t as bad, but then I said I have a withdrawal symptoms got through that and started having panic attacks again I feel like I need to be on methadone and not judged for what I went through. I’m about to need to travel for work to California and don’t wanna get stuck without any way to keep on going when I get there.
@Dr. B Addiction Recovery my daughter, mixes unprescribed benzos with her methadone. Her methadone makes her nod just like she has done a shot of heroin, and then she adds a fake benzo bar. Dr. B, there aren't any treatment centers here in Oklahoma that insurance will allow her to go to treatment. They won't take her on methadone. Do you have any suggestions? Ishe has state insurance , which is Medicare. She freaks out at even the thought of being taken off methadone. There is so much going on. She's 29, beautiful, homeless, and her boyfriend beats her. I'm at a loss of what I can do to help her.
@@Brandiafinegirl62 many people have died mixing benzos and methadone. Anna Nicole smith for one, im confident she did. Just try to monitor her and tell her she gonna die if she mixes them at the same time. Ive lost friends who have done this trying to follow in my tracks to get high. I once abused methadone & xanax cause it does make you feel high but my tolerance was higher than theirs. Hope she gets the help she needs. 🙏
@Gayle Sanders Nothing if she doesn't want help. If she is an adult, she is making her own choices. I'm sorry you are having to go through that. Get support. NAMI has groups.
Hi Dr.B. I have 2 spinal cord injuries(Waiting for MRI then operation date but its far from now i live in South Africa...operation could be 2 years from now.)and I'm taking 200mg SR of Tramadol and just started Nurika/Pregabalin 75m twice a day.How many hours apart should I take them because I took them together the first time and that was not a good experience.Is 6 hours good or should I do 8 hour apart?Thank you.
I was on lorazepam 33 years and was stopped much to quick. Now my legs and feet are shaking and cramping 19 hours a Day since 24 month's. Toes go up and down at an insane speed. Will this torture ever stop .Intense nerve pain in abdomen and legs. What can I do Dr. B.
Dr. B. I want to know if benzodiazepine effects can pass on to the baby through the father who has been prescribed. Does it Effect the sperms and can it damage the baby??? My son was born when I was taking them. He is having some weight issues and mood issues amd am worried.
Hi, I have been on benzos along time . Suboxone I have been almost year and half from car accident. I have been getting far with suboxone as to meaning i have alot when it refill time . I have GAD that's why I have been on benzos alone time. What's your opion on me staying on benzos and taper suboxone?
I’ve been tapering off of 1 mg of Ativan for over a year. I’m down to .05 mg and having severe stomach issues. I’m holding until the symptoms subside if they ever do. I’m wondering if I should just jump off and deal with the symptoms since I’m at such a low dose?
get checked to see if your stomach problems are caused by something else. I'm having severe stomach issues now and i'm stable on all my meds but still suffer from an ibs type syndrome. See a G.I. Doctor and get checked. Much love -Lance
89mg methadone 1xdaily and .5mg of Xanax 2x daily. I'm clean and stable and want to take the next steps but the more I read about benzo withdrawal I'm legitimately scared. I'm also scared to voice my concerns or thoughts to my dr. In fear of a rapid detox. Thank you for your response.
@@DrBAddictionRecovery I literally do not believe it, but she wasn’t born here. I told the Medical Board that every doctor believes something insane about the “secret police” and they could better protect the patients by protecting the doctors.
Taper yourself It is comfortably done if your taper is slow enough Go down say 2mg to 14 and stay on this dose for about 2 weeks then do the same again and again tell your down to about 4 mg then start taking .50 of a mill off each taper day The idea is you feel zero withdrawal effects Mabye a bit of discomfort but if u find it hard, cut less at a time
It wouldn’t be blocking anymore by that point Of course the higher dose your on the harder it’s going to block and longer Likely no one will answer this because every person is different as far as this goes but 3-4 days is the usual amount of time I was on 32 mg at one point and the block was extreme in comparison to say 4 mg The higher dose fills the receptor fully where the smaller dose leaves spaces
You seriously struggle getting to the point…It’s difficult to stay engaged because you keep repeating RU-vid buzz terms over & over. Please help viewers by being clear, concise, and informative.
I tried calling the 1-800 number for dr. B and I got an answering machine for someone by the name of Nicole so I'm not sure if your number has changed if so can I please have your number? I'm wanting to know if you're able to help me? I live in Arizona and am struggling with Klonopin
