My father was like that (without the tact); I admire the courage it takes to do the right thing. And I try to live up to it myself! Be what you admire in others....
Me encantan las series de época británicas, las hacen tan reales, los personajes elegidos cuidadosamente, vestuario, etc. Las he visto desde siempre, gracias
@@nicolarollinson4381 i found it in RU-vid! (YT Channel - Eloise Midgen).....Only a few minutes in and I'm HOOKED! 😀 (same actress who played Esther Price in 'The Mill')...yay! thnx again
This is one of the best programmes I've ever seen, very high quality and great actors, in fact everything is so good in it, including script. Some of its aspects remind me a little of that Nesbitt writer (the one who wrote A Little Princess and Little Lord Fauntelroy, which I read as an adult!) This first occurred to me when I though what a magic quality the little boy with the big eyes had to him, a great way of speaking and everything, so charming and he seemed like a real person to me.
Helen Day Frances Hodgson Burnett wrote “ A little Princess” “ Little Lord Fauntleroy “ and “ The Secret Garden” Edith Nesbit wrote The Railway Children, The Phoenix and the Carpet, Five Children and it , The amulet among other books
Mr St John really has no backbone, and no self respect! He is harsh with his little boy, but when it comes to his wife, he's just pathetic. What a weak man!
I'm really enjoying this series! Its so hard to find good clean shows these days. Jason O'mar is gorgeous and a fabulous actor! I do miss him in Terra Nova.
I am loving this series! So many nasty posh people being appalling, and some total cliche servants, it's just great, thank you for sharing, it's been just what I needed during lockdown.
Women usually had no voice concerning schooling of male children. Tom had been fortunate he had not been sent away sooner. Diabolical system...turned out quite a few like Hugh!
For those who are confused at the lack of interaction between the parents and their children: In the Victorian era aristocratic parents were not suppose to show affection to their children. Demonstrations of love were frowned upon. They were not suppose to be involved in their upbringing. That was for the common people. Your servants were to do everything for you. I understand everyone’s criticism, but remember this was a different era with different customs and ideas on parenting.
True, and that is why films and TV series should depict the times as they truly were because each era has its own context. Being PC or revisionist will not educate people about the past. Let the era speak for itself and let people develop their own critical thinking and learn how to view things in context.
Most of us know that, it doesn't make it any less shameful because it was the "Norm". Adults need and want love, what would make them think the children needed it any less, and from their own parents. The early stages of creating a sick society.
Great series. Decent and respectable. Great to watch a show where couples are not jumping each other in bed. I don’t have to forward scene. A series which can be watched with family. ❤
the whole show od about motherhood in a way. kids brought up by nannies while their own mothers attend fancy parties ..... nannies raising children in all sorts of good and bad ways.... there is Hannah fighting to keep her child and Mrs.B doing anything it takes to help her because she was deprived of her own baby.
Isabel is quite a naive lady, unknowingly insulting Hannah by saying that e. g. a nanny is free to marry without ruining a reputation. I don't know yet how this proposal will work out but of one thing I feel very sure: Captain Mason will never be faithful in his marriage to her.
I'm the day you WERE expected to remain unmarried and in service for a majority of your life. That's part of the many horrible things they didn't expect servants to have their own life. :( it was a part of their Victorian values and purity
Marriage to Isabel is merely an opportunity to be in the league of his respectable colleagues who themselves are married so it is the next best thing for him to do, not that he intended to be a married man. He has a reputation to be a seducer and that is what he did with the married woman and Isabel. His action was strategic even if he did not love her.
the way he drank that tea after Lydia said that, makes me think that he might have something up his sleeve. OH I hope not. Let someone in this whole thing be innocent and truly a gentleman.
She is a tad young for him, wouldn't you say? I think he felt slightly alarmed that he might be her focus for the future... after what she said about feeling quite safe with him. Lol
I think he is sweet on her, and doesn't want her to think that he would have no interest in her. How easily can he progress any relationship after what she said, when any indication he wants to be more than friends (in the most respectable way) may make her automatically resist and think he only wants one thing.
Oh yeah, Mister Fowler is the perfect husband material-kind, understanding, patient and polite. I am really hoping he and Lydia will get it on. They both remind me so much of Mister Bates and Anna from Downton Abbey.
I grew up reading Mills and Boon books, Barbara Cartland, Catherine Cookson so these old English and Irish movies I love them. What a great series. Dam!!!you had to be so proper to work as a nanny.
my heart cries for people who get caught up in a web of deciet withput realizing that pray and the love of God covers a multitutde of sins. and yet this fictional tragic tail needs to be told so others may see the folly of lies and deciet. love this series. for it shows us alk this simple truth. thank you for releasing it.
Emma-Jane Ward yes, such cute little things. I know why some women keep having kids , once they grow up you really miss all that baby cuteness and cuddling them when they snuffle!
A delightful series much better than Upstairs Downstairs or Downton Abbey. Many things happened then than we would accept now. Treatment of children, sexual harassment etc. please find more like this!!!!
@limeyki I haven't seen Upstairs Downstairs, I'm willing to bet it's good though. I loved Downton Abbey. Loved most of the characters, and the long-term employment of most of the characters, and how the family mostly cared for their staff, and the progressiveness of the plot, showing the phasing out of one era bringing in a new era and the adapting of the family which allowed them to continue flourishing rather then fighting it and succumbing to failure as many did I'm sure.
Isabelle is #CONFINED TO BARRACKS lol...I remember when my late Mamaa used to do the same to me...Now that I am free to explore, maturity and experience has confined me hahahahaaaaaaaaa :D
It's better to stop when a story is over. Something Hollywood has never learned. I refer to Star Trek's 964 TV episodes & movies. Yes, almost a thousand. The "Strange New Worlds" are all too familiar.
We forget modern day children spend most of their time in schools or day cares. Few hours at home. During summer months some go to summer camps, special programs, etc. Some spend hours with sitters who come to the home or live in the home while their parents work. Modern day parents give their children quality time, not quantity time. Is this different from time parents of this era spent with their children?
Often true for many modern families with both parents working, though in the era of the film much of that lifestyle is chosen by a kind of social design.
I was so happy that the married women( who was having that affair) finally got put in her place, when her ex-lover announced he was getting married. I wanted their affair to be found out, but this was even better. Seeing the pain in her face was so worth it!
Thank you for this great show.👏👏👏❤❤❤ The culture of the time, artistic license aside, must have required thick skin, the ability to speak in code, and an arsenal of solutions for all sorts of unpleasantness. There is something reptilian about the portrayal of social manners in the show. It made the show intriguing and compulsive viewing.👏👏👏❤❤❤
Hannah's apathy towards Mrs B's plight is even worse when you consider that as an Irishwoman, she herself would have been treated with terrible xenophobia in England at the time. She has just forgotten her dear friend & supporter.
Jenny is of course the poor victim and she is so nice, so reliable, so naive, etc... I would never play such a role that make you look just an idiot at the end.
Such writing of characters & stories creates such good drama with twisted ill-fated plots plus characters living at the mercy of others & themselves while some of the more unappealing characters win the day.
The aristocracy more concerned witht their lovers than their children. She wrote to her departed lover not her son. lol Kind of like our present day baby mama's.
Mrs.bronovski was also complicit in encouraging Randall to work (when shr wanted to leave)in that dreaded house so that nofski could be with Charlie baby and relive her own LOST child/motherhood!
There are so many interesting & relatable characters in the series. The central theme is clear enough. Matty said it: "I think good people sometimes do bad things." Which reminds me of another: "Let him who is without sin among you be the first to cast a stone at her." John 8:7
Rarely see a combover these days. Hooooooray! Greedy rich grown children, can they get more pathetic. Great casting, glad to see real faces and no hollywood clones. Supernanny would have a fit. Poison in the autopsy! Get,s better and better!
There are many in this world who are so uncouth and cruel and stupid they don't know the damage they do to others. I can't take much more of this rollercoaster. Gives a whole new mean to the term melodrama.
Laudanum, Rum, Cough-Surop… ‘Mother’s Little Helpers’; horribly, still much in-use, Today. If any Society/Country wanted to make a huge impact for improving the mental/emotional/physical/societal condition of its People - making sure that Everyone was taught how to parent-effectively (starting with school-classes) and ensuring that Families/Parents had all the support needed… would go so-far!
Yes sometimes. Very much depended on the family. There was the tradition that they were a part of the family as well ( which, by the way, they often were...for better or for worse, and the presumption that one took care of one's servants and their families to some extent. IF the wealthy people were the fine ones, being born into that society, felling locked into it as well, and trying to be decent in their version of it, as maybe they had or hdan't seen their parents do ..or not ( and so in opposition to that).
+gernot: You're correct -- they weren't, and that's one of the biggest criticisms of garbage sentimental shows like this and Downton Abbey, which pretend that personal relationships sometimes developed. They absolutely and positively did not, and anyone who tells you otherwise hasn't knows nothing about social class in the UK. ..... Servants were used as machines, typically expected to work from 6 a.m. (stoke the fires, get the bath water) until 10 p.m. (dinner dishes) and sometimes later -- 18-hour days weren't unheard of. Servants who were cleaning a hallway turned to face the wall when their "betters" passed. They absolutely and positively weren't seen as people; the pay was poor; and the families made no old-age provision for the humans who wore themselves out in service. The propaganda suggesting otherwise does a disservice to everyone who wore him-/herself out thru life in service.
@J J; Ah but it wasn't that simple, as people never are. And yes, there was the tradition of using people, upheld by the various churches, that all were born to believe in..And had horrible consequences, of course, it's in the system, why time to get rid of suchways and give another education. And there are and were many decent people trying as best they could to get around it, and that is important. Because when it is no longer important...then the system of hurting others become legitimized. The system was abominable, as the religions that uphold such ways, but the people are what counts most, and where the changes to that system came from. The French revolution was started by the aristocracy going against that, for instance..
Mitzi Pepall -- If you're addressing me: There are things called ''books'' and ''documentaries,'' the best of which are/were created by scholars, who do/did a lot of research. I read; I watch; I learn; it's called "getting an education" and I find it far more satisfying than posting silly jabs online.
You need to think deeper. Women of that era with an illegitimate child had virtually no employment opportunities. They had to hide their child or resort to prostitution, the only other way to put food on the table. Saving your child without hurting another was a legitimate, and sensible, if difficult choice.
Spoiler Alert ⚠ aka "Synopsis" ⚠ 9 "Wednesday's Child" 5 July 1998 50min. Ned joins the army to escape being arrested by the police, and Matty enlists her brother's help to clear Ned's name. Captain Mason proposes marriage to Isabel, much to her delight and the distress of Victoria St. John when she hears the news. She is pregnant with Captain Mason's child. She and Arnold start to try to repair their marriage but has to promise that she and Captain Mason were only ever friends. She promises, knowing that if she told the truth, Arnold would throw her out and not allow her contact with their children. Mrs Bronowski is charged with murder despite Hannah's efforts to clear her name. (SOURCE= Wikipedia)