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Berme REX-C100 PID Temperature Controller 

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This is a high level overview of the Chinese made Berme Rex-C100 PID Temperature Controller. This controller can be used for both cooling and heating applications. Good for brewers and smoker setups. I go over the basic operations and setup, including how to get into the menu and change it from heating to cooling functions.

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@simonsimpson4695
@simonsimpson4695 3 года назад
This video is an absolute life saver. Was not able to decipher the manual in any shape or form. Setting for my function was dead easy. Set the target temp in the bottom window. That's it, totally set! Worth its weight in gold.
@Fishy1764
@Fishy1764 2 года назад
Hi Andrew , ive got to say that was the best instructional video on pids i,ve found on RU-vid so far.I actually understood everything you were talking about , as you might of guessed im not an electrician lol! initial settings manual i didnt even know about so thankyou.All the best mate.
@meganewbies
@meganewbies 8 лет назад
thanks for these nice information, very simple and clear
@chartle1
@chartle1 8 лет назад
Also do you have the link for the manual. Ones I've seen are only a few pages. thanks
@JohnClulow
@JohnClulow 5 лет назад
Thanks for the excellent review and tutorial
@sirpoopsalot9598
@sirpoopsalot9598 2 года назад
If there’s one thing I rue, it’s Chinese products that are sold here without intelligible instructions. Good job on presenting the basics of the C100.
@williedewinnaar4384
@williedewinnaar4384 6 лет назад
Hi, I am a newbie with the Rex C100. I have successfully setup the controller and SSR (after modifying the controller to signal 12 V to the SSR) to regulate the temp of my fish pond. The controller is regulating the pool pump, heater and UV light all on the same circuit. The target temp is 25 C. I haven't changed anything but the target temp on the controller. This far it is working well. Initially it switched on and off a few times and shortly afterwards it settled in heating mode while the temp slowly increased. About 10 hours later while constantly running the temp reached 18 C and the unit kept on switching off the system a split second and switching on again. this happens every minute or so. Any advise on this problem? Secondly, as the temp increased to 23 C (target still 25) it keeps on switching off and on, like it is trying to slow down the heating as not to overshoot (I think?). I only need it to do a simple thing, run the temp up to 25 C - switch off - wait until 23 C - switch on until 25 C. Any advice on the settings to get this done?
@ronbercan1000
@ronbercan1000 5 лет назад
thanks for the info. it help me set my C100 .
@clifjonejontilano3578
@clifjonejontilano3578 5 лет назад
thanks for your demo video..if i will use that rex c100 for negative temp application, is it possible? if yes what add on do i need? TIA
@markdelapeyre2666
@markdelapeyre2666 6 лет назад
I love the way you picking up the relay with mains applied and a bare wire connection above your fingers, the amperage is rated as 40 on relay. I wouldn’t even attempt that without a decent heat sink though.
@zombieprinting2670
@zombieprinting2670 5 лет назад
I think it's only running 12v as per the fan so his shock wouldnt be more than a tickle really. but if You were running a 240 heating element? yeah i'd steer clear of any wires lol
@negueba235689
@negueba235689 3 года назад
@@zombieprinting2670 12V cant penetrate normal skin on your hand :)
@davidjobe9876
@davidjobe9876 7 лет назад
Hello i bought today a Berme RX-C100 secondhand. Can you show me the link for the manual. I didn'tn know you can use SSR with DC out-put ?
@cavmancarl1
@cavmancarl1 7 лет назад
I have the exact model you have from china. What is the link for the manual that you found to work best for you?
@wilkas159
@wilkas159 4 года назад
Very informative video, everything was explained thanks. And your relay is 40A.
@joew1865
@joew1865 2 года назад
The 400C limit refers to the proportional action which is where it sets it output (0-100%) proportional to the difference between the set and measured temps. K-type thermocouples should be good up to around 800C at least. The smallest gauge k-type I believe is 30 AWG and its suggested range goes up to 760C
@lamkent7009
@lamkent7009 7 лет назад
that was quiet good information you share with me? but may i ask ,so do u have any idea of testing the heater temperature ,do u share with me ?
@chartle1
@chartle1 8 лет назад
OK I'm not sure if you are checking posts but I got everything together and somehow screwed up my first PID. Got another one and just started to use it without going into any settings. I set my temp and the fan goes on. The problem is the fan doesn't turn off. Its a 5v simple battery operated fan. The SSR LED goes on and off but the fan stays on. I've tried hooking it up switching the positive and the negative with the same result. I have 2 SSR's and they both seem to work the same way. I noticed you used I think a 12v fan. Is that maybe an issue? ETA: OK reading some more about AC SSR's and how they only work with AC not sure how you are using it with a DC fan.
@elliotbollard
@elliotbollard 5 лет назад
Hello, just wondering if you have a link the the manual that actually lined up cheers
@khamtanphonetip9019
@khamtanphonetip9019 7 лет назад
Hi, could you please share the type of relay you were using?
@MaggotKabab
@MaggotKabab 7 лет назад
How do i input decimal values for PID settings?
@arielcepeda6254
@arielcepeda6254 7 лет назад
le hago una consulta. el rex c100 se puede configurar como temporizador? muchas gracias
@tupatupa-var
@tupatupa-var Год назад
Well done and thank you for your work. STP Possible with this REX C100, to stop heating before reaching high temperatures? , Thank you for your answers
@rayst.2934
@rayst.2934 Год назад
Andrew thank you for the instructional video I wired my PID up and everything look good until I set my temperature but the top numbers highlighted in red kept going up and up and I didn't know how to stop it I set my temperature at 72 and the top numbers start climbing up to 300°. I was wondering if you could help me to fix this problem
@peteraugust5295
@peteraugust5295 7 лет назад
what value du you add? is that just a random value you need to figure out or is it 23 degrees?
@CesarPerez-bl1sr
@CesarPerez-bl1sr 5 лет назад
Are you able to program this unit from Celsius to Fahrenheit?
@websterzayas9328
@websterzayas9328 7 лет назад
how do i set value in decimal? i have a Berme Rex-C100 PID.
@michaelhall7921
@michaelhall7921 2 года назад
A good video. it's a pity the chinese producers don't have the initiative you have to give explicit operation details you do. Thankyou for being so helpful. Incidentally are the Chinese frightened of mentioning colours RED AND GREEN. One of the features is that the bottom target temperature the 'user' must set is GREEN ! The desired temperature the user requires the heating element to switch off is RED and in the upper reading. I have had to get used to digital electronics with being a commercial heating engineer but I thought I was thick when I spent an hour trying to set a previous controller same brand as the one that took five minutes to get it to heat 300 watts up & then maintain 200C. I now have proof the 1st controller was faulty out of the box. I was advised the thermocouple thread is to be 6mm (course) =no way, it is 1/4 whitworth and it fits into the appropriate thread I made for it. It's a K type thermocouple. The device seems to have been factory set for a K TC by shear luck for me.
@EdwardTriesToScience
@EdwardTriesToScience 2 года назад
This is very helpful since the manual I had was nonsense english (probably badly translated from chinese), this helps alot, thanks
@marcconcepcion3398
@marcconcepcion3398 5 лет назад
hello i was just wondering what did you use as a power source for the rex c 100
@jeanlucvar
@jeanlucvar 7 лет назад
Excellent. But how program for , stop Out SSR ? and always displayed temperature. Thanks
@chartle1
@chartle1 7 лет назад
Not sure what you are asking.
@indonesiamendaurulang
@indonesiamendaurulang 4 года назад
where is the negative (netral) wire to the fan come from ?
@garycotz563
@garycotz563 3 года назад
So does the Berme "save" the PID values as they get steady or do they reset constantly...??
@sangziekeng7880
@sangziekeng7880 4 года назад
I would like to use PID controller for heating purpose by using halogen light bulb. When I on the halogen light bulb, it will start heating and I would like to control the desired temperature and remain it. Can I use this product?
@glendooer6211
@glendooer6211 5 лет назад
excellent saved me a lot of time
@umairareyan8642
@umairareyan8642 5 лет назад
Sir g kindly tell me how to remove error from xmtg 708 controllar temperature
@jasonclements4607
@jasonclements4607 6 лет назад
THANK YOU SIR!
@federicosilvam8760
@federicosilvam8760 4 года назад
where did you found this manual??
@saurmaruli7864
@saurmaruli7864 4 года назад
how can the device display or indicate not only the temperature but also the speed rate of changing temperature. for example 10'C per minute indicating the temperature rises by 10'C in a minute. I need this device for my coffee roasting machine to understand the changing rate of temperature during the heating. Thanks
@frankyvee1
@frankyvee1 2 года назад
Do you have a link to where you got that fan? Thnx
@shemuelsanjuan2063
@shemuelsanjuan2063 3 года назад
Is there a reset option available?
@mkincubators
@mkincubators 3 года назад
Is it possible to have point . Example 5.5
@praveenraj6170
@praveenraj6170 4 года назад
Can we use normal relay?
@maxcowell4260
@maxcowell4260 9 месяцев назад
Hi do I need to have a thermal couple? I just want to control a heater cartridge with no automatic heating up or cooling down. Just a constant temp. Please help 😀
@henrikhansen1023
@henrikhansen1023 3 года назад
Have you any idea how inaccurate the temperature measuring is with this product? Tin melts at 449,42 °F....and according to the BERM REX C-100 the temperature was at 298.4 °F when it did....some tolerance, huh?
@whatevernamegoeshere3644
@whatevernamegoeshere3644 3 года назад
I took apart my SS relay and it had a BT26A triac in it from LT semi. It's 25 amps rated but it IS possible it's a relabeled one which is just 10 amps
@hornet331
@hornet331 2 года назад
never trust any Chinese electronics from aliexpress/ebay if you want to switch any serious power. The controller itself is fine.
@listrikb6885
@listrikb6885 3 года назад
If use NTC 10K? Can it work?
@rickraphael1562
@rickraphael1562 7 лет назад
how do you wire a heating band to it ???
@matejsimala5272
@matejsimala5272 5 лет назад
did you get the answer?
@nanneborndesign
@nanneborndesign 6 лет назад
Hello, I am trying te set-up my Berme tempature controller for two days now but I can't get it right. Can you please send me the settings of the menu? AL1 - ..... ARU - ..... P -... 1 -... d -... Ar - ... r - ... SC - ... LCK - ... I'll hope you can help me. Thanks in advance!
@danielong3353
@danielong3353 8 лет назад
Hi Andrew, at around 6:23 you mentioned that you are controlling power to the fan via the SSR with a DC supply. However, I notice your SSR output is 5-380VAC. Does it work with a DC supply? I want to control the temperature of a silicon heat pad that requires a 12DC supply. Will it work with the same SSR (5-380VAC) as yours or should I get a SSR with a DC in/DC out?
@chartle1
@chartle1 7 лет назад
I'm not sure how this is working. I have the same SSR and it does not work with DC loads. It will turn on but not turn off as per what I everyone else says about using an AC SSR with DC. I got a DC/DC SSR and it worked fine with my 12v DC fan. I just used it for my Offset Smoker over the weekend and and for the most part it was dead on and held temp at 106 to 107C for 4 hours. It did go crazy once but it was because I opened up the grill to rearrange the meat and it dropped to around 40 C. It way over shot to 130. I think there are settings to help control this.
@ingridmeijer1578
@ingridmeijer1578 7 лет назад
Buy a real one from RKC Instrument Inc. in Japan and you will not have problems. Berme REX-C100 are chinese imitation controllers that can catch fire and they do not meet any of the quality specifications. These instruments are DANGEROUS AND ILLEGAL!!
@hishamkalim8602
@hishamkalim8602 5 лет назад
SSR turn on and off with DC when they get signal on the input but they switch AC on and off ...usually mains at zero crossing to eliminate noise,arcing and overloading ....
@waynegoodrich7467
@waynegoodrich7467 5 лет назад
@@ingridmeijer1578 You must be a sales rep for that company because you post the same answers all over the web.
@Uzmairdip
@Uzmairdip 4 года назад
If we dont want cycle how can we set the PID
@CraigLubbe
@CraigLubbe 2 года назад
Hi there! I recently bought one of these to regulate a 12VDC heater element. For some reason through I can't seem to get the SSRelay to disengage i.e. it heats up and measures that heat OK, but it isn't stopping, even past the SV. Is it that the relay is just not suitable or is there something else I should be looking at?
@craigcarmichael5748
@craigcarmichael5748 Год назад
SSRs are for AC only. Back to back SCRs or a triac. They shut off as the AC voltage passes through zero V. I don't understand why it's working for him in this video - guessing the "wall wart" must have been unfiltered DC dropping to zero every half cycle. For DC you might want an N-channel mosfet (with a 5 volt gate if that's the voltage that comes out of the controller - I haven't measured it) to switch the minus line of your heater.
@gopinath-dz4qp
@gopinath-dz4qp 5 лет назад
How to gat the menu
@chartle1
@chartle1 8 лет назад
This video is exactly what I was looking for, but I only realized it half way in. I too am looking at this for an Offset smoker fan controller. That should really be in in title. I had started to put together a shopping list of parts I would need to make an Arduino based thermo couple based controller. I've had the fan for months even before my Wife and Son went out and bought one at HD when they were discounting their Brinkman smokers. I may order one from Banggood tonight.
@chartle1
@chartle1 8 лет назад
It will be here tomorrow.
@zombieprinting2670
@zombieprinting2670 6 лет назад
Ya I have the same controller but I can't bring up the SL menus and only have 3 digital places as to your 4. Ughhh
@_arthur_360
@_arthur_360 3 года назад
Same
@umdmrlbro
@umdmrlbro 3 года назад
Are you...switching DC with an AC SSR?
@TheOldDavidh
@TheOldDavidh 4 года назад
thanks very much. . . excellent
@chirots
@chirots 11 месяцев назад
If this control is on/off to maintain the desired temperature, then the thermal coil won't last long. Do you have any problem???
@Muditha629
@Muditha629 Год назад
Is this can use for electric oven
@wtwrva
@wtwrva 7 лет назад
Nice! Thanks!
@frankyvee1
@frankyvee1 2 года назад
The 40 marked on the SSR is the amprage.
@djl2033
@djl2033 6 лет назад
where did you get all the components? ebay?
@INOVUSTECHNOLOGY
@INOVUSTECHNOLOGY 5 лет назад
Dear, i know a manufacturer of this temperature controller which in china wenzhou. Their website: www.controllermeter.com.
@rompstar
@rompstar 8 лет назад
does it display the temp in F or C // can you change that in the menu ?
@chartle1
@chartle1 7 лет назад
This one may but I have one with the same type of product code and I can't change it from C to F. Not all Berme PIDS are the same and no real way to know beforehand.
@rimmersbryggeri
@rimmersbryggeri 7 лет назад
You can change in sl2 000 is c and 0001 is f
@chartle1
@chartle1 7 лет назад
rimmersbryggeri Like I posted I can see that setting but on my I guess clone you can't change this value.
@capitanamerica7554
@capitanamerica7554 7 лет назад
rex c400 berme to pt 100 , what instalacion?
@rimmersbryggeri
@rimmersbryggeri 7 лет назад
sl1= 1000
@blutorlz3
@blutorlz3 2 месяца назад
Anyone see these behave strangely with the PV value jumping all over as soon as the SSR starts cycling? I’ve tried several thermocouples and two different c100 controllers. The heating element can be plugged in or disconnected and the behavior continues.
@c.i.t.techclub
@c.i.t.techclub 4 года назад
Thanks , You need to change parameter for oud to be 1 to use fan and oud=0 for heat. Good luck
@kugibarraza1529
@kugibarraza1529 4 года назад
Hi! Can you send me the manual?
@bouazzasabile2771
@bouazzasabile2771 6 лет назад
thank you
@bernardocheriv9904
@bernardocheriv9904 2 года назад
HELLO. can you share that manual ?? gretting....
@rimmersbryggeri
@rimmersbryggeri 7 лет назад
IF you didnt find it out you can activate alarms on sl 4 and 5. There area different alarms you can use
@chartle1
@chartle1 7 лет назад
rimmersbryggeri same have alarms so don't. Also some have one and some have two alarms.
@theogmrbill1
@theogmrbill1 7 лет назад
please help I can not get into cod mode. everyone says go to lck and do value of 1000. but I can only enter 3 digits not 4 and if I use 100 for the lck I only get option sl1 sl2 sl3 and sl4. and the first 3 I can not change the value of. I can only change the value of sl4. how do I get into cod mode? I pushed and held set and left button but it will not come up. I have a rex-c100
@AlbionZeglin
@AlbionZeglin 7 лет назад
Bill Sierer I have same problem
@fedelopezintroini
@fedelopezintroini 7 лет назад
I have the same problem ...do you found some solution??
@theogmrbill1
@theogmrbill1 7 лет назад
No ugh
@clipol
@clipol 7 лет назад
+Bill Sierer the same issue with mine - no further menu (just s1 to s4) with three digits only ;(
@theogmrbill1
@theogmrbill1 7 лет назад
Sigh
@KennethScharf
@KennethScharf 7 лет назад
Warning, these SS Relays will fail by SHORTING OUT leaving your heater ALWAYS ON!!!! I've had TWO of these relays fail on me for my 3D printer. The REX100C does have an overtemp alarm setting, with a separate alarm output. I suggest that you use this and wire a sonolert to the alarm so you have an audiable warning if your relay fails and you go into thermal runaway! Better still use the alarm output to open a second mechanical relay in series with the SS one.
@ingridmeijer1578
@ingridmeijer1578 7 лет назад
The only reason your REX C100 does this is because you've bought illegal Chinese-made ones. If you buy the real ones from RKC Instruments Inc. from Japan, you'll see you will not have these problems. You can buy real ones here for instance: www.cascade.net/controllers
@joblessalex
@joblessalex 5 лет назад
@@ingridmeijer1578 lol those are probably $600 a pop
@CharlesBusada
@CharlesBusada 2 года назад
@@joblessalex Well they are not that expensive.. I use crydom Solid state relays. And also make sure that you have them connected to a good heat sink Solid state relays. And also make sure that you have them connected to a good heat sink . If not they will melt on you
@tubastuff
@tubastuff 2 года назад
Just use a thermal fuse on the mains.
@hiroyeager5945
@hiroyeager5945 3 года назад
i suggest to always read the manual because in mine, the SL6 should never be changed as it may result in malfunction or failure of the instrument
@Tom-zr6yj
@Tom-zr6yj 2 года назад
Thanks for the info on the pid . I have a berm rexc100 running headbands for a basic injection machine I have built . I’m having trouble getting the headbands to heat up at all . The output light is on and the thermocouple s are in working order . Is there a setting In in the parameters menu to get the pid working on the initial setup ?. I am just struggling to find any good info online for this model of rexc100 so any info would be appreciated. Thanks
@nellisabeth283
@nellisabeth283 8 лет назад
hey, i was wondering if it would be able to connect the rex c100 to arduino, to control him through arduino lcd screen? greets, nel
@chartle1
@chartle1 8 лет назад
I think you would need to find some sort of spec sheet and come up with some sort of interface. None of the output are any kind of serial output. What exactly are you trying to do? Until I found these PID devices I had planed to make an Arduino based temp controller.
@MrKJF007
@MrKJF007 8 лет назад
There is no way to communicate with this device so building an interface is not possible or practical. You need to start with a temperature controller that has a built in serial interface such as an Altec PC410 which is available on ebay for < $60. That is about the cheapest I've seen. Otherwise you'll be in the 100s of dollars range. You can incorporate the PID control right in the Arduino, which there are lots of sketches available, but you then need an analog input capable of connecting to a thermocouple which is not an easy task. Some thoughts to consider....
@chartle1
@chartle1 8 лет назад
To interface a k type thermocouple to an arduino you just need the right interface module. Adafruit has 3 different ones and the sketches to support them . I was going down this route until I saw how easy it was to use a PID and bought a cheap one from China. I've already tried using it in my smoker but the SSR i have only works for AC loads. Its the same one in this video and I'm still not sure how it works here. Everything I have read said it can't work and mine also didn't work exactly how they explained it wouldn't. It doesn't turn off the SSR. It has to do with the components in the SSR. One other change is I'm not sure how well that style thermocouple would work in air. It think its a contact one and is best used for things like pots with liquid.
@MrKJF007
@MrKJF007 8 лет назад
I'm confused by your comment about your smoker and the fact that the SSR is for AC loads. Your smoker is an AC load so an SSR will control the heating element just fine. What did you read that said it can't work? Provide a link if you can. Is your C100 the model with a "V" as the 'first control output' and then you are connecting the SSR directly to the C100? Or, is it an "M" and you've modified it to use the internal DC power supply or an external supply through the relay contacts to drive the SSR? Is the output LED on the C100 going off but the SSR does not? If yes, you probably have a bad SSR. Measure the voltage across the DC side of the SSR when the control is on and then off. Does it change? Does the LED on the SSR change with it? If yes, SSR is bad. If not, it's the C100. If it's the C100, I'd verify you have a "K" model that takes a thermocouple and that it's wired to terminals 9 (blue) and 10(red). Next I'd verify your SL1 setting is all 0's for a type K. Finally, the thermocouple will work fine in air. The only difference between the two(air vs liquid), involves some time constants in the PID algorithm. For a smoker, which is a slow responding system, it won't make a difference.
@chartle1
@chartle1 7 лет назад
I guess this was for me but I'm using a 12v dc fan to control the air going into my charcoal smoker, not electric. Same as the creator of this video. Based on this video I assumed my AC SSR would also work with DC. Well it didn't and I now know why. I have since then bought a DC SSR and the system worked great to keep my smoker at 107 C. My main issue is that the PID I got from Banggood doesn't have a good manual and I can't find one online. Good thing it worked right out of the box. I did also get a bigger longer Thermocouple that I think was much more sensitive than the stubby one in the kit. I think the stubby one is for direct contact to a heating vessel. I'll check to see if the stubby one works as well. Just glad it worked as well as it did.
@MuhammadFarhan-vy6vy
@MuhammadFarhan-vy6vy 3 года назад
Hi can u help me I have ReX C900FK07
@mouloudmanseur8999
@mouloudmanseur8999 5 лет назад
Good
@jinlim6575
@jinlim6575 4 года назад
some rex-c100's on amazon are programmed dif. Mine only has 3 digits that light. reset to factory by making cod 911 is the easiest way to set it.
@tejaspotdar1510
@tejaspotdar1510 6 лет назад
why does this blink
@kiowablue2862
@kiowablue2862 3 года назад
The blinking is caused by the camera.
@gerykis
@gerykis Год назад
Foteks tend to blow up
@romeoj387
@romeoj387 Месяц назад
Not that simpe if we make a stable controller on heater. There are some parameters need to be set properly.
@jackevans2386
@jackevans2386 3 года назад
It's not a "thermal coupler". It's a 'thermocouple'
@nolinicolas4237
@nolinicolas4237 3 года назад
Gudday sir. How about i will use for cooling sir, all i need is 16-17 C means, 16C below it will turn-off and if 17C up it will turn-on. I will use as a switch(i will pluge my refrigerator) for restoring my pig semen. Thank u and God bles
@verm.l.945
@verm.l.945 4 года назад
It is not a PID controller.
@user-zv9tc3fq4v
@user-zv9tc3fq4v 6 лет назад
Че не судьба на русском рассказать?
@neuxstone
@neuxstone 6 лет назад
It's thermocouple NOT THERMOCOUPLER....,
@kiowablue2862
@kiowablue2862 3 года назад
@@rpasco9352 First time I've ever heard someone say "shut on." Definitely makes you wonder, doesn't it?
@srpracingdevelopments3728
@srpracingdevelopments3728 4 года назад
P.I.D. Not PID
@hiroyeager5945
@hiroyeager5945 4 года назад
this guy has problem with mathematics, logical thinking and obviously with general knowledge of things
@megatesla
@megatesla 4 года назад
I watched almost 4 minutes and then couldn't anymore. I should've known when he started calling it a "pit controller" and "pit relay"...
@alandavid8662
@alandavid8662 2 года назад
Hi. Hardly a high level overview but useful non the less. It's called a 'thermocouple'. The manuals for these are terrible (typical Chinese gobbledygook) There are many, many other settings most of which I still don't understand unfortunately.
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