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Best $550 GPU in 2024? RTX 4070 vs RX 7900 GRE: The Ultimate Comparison!!! 

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In this RX 7900 GRE review we look at its performance head to head against its closest priced Nvidia competitor- the RTX 4070. We test the latest games and features, and dial in to find the settings that are actually realistic to use on the GPUs, including DLSS 3 and FSR 3 frame generation, ray tracing, path tracing, DLSS and FSR upscaling, and more!
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Buy an RX 7900 GRE: amzn.to/3wyl9dA
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Chapters:
0:00 7900 GRE can get RT wins vs the 4070
0:43 Which cooler model am I testing?
0:56 I'm using out of the box settings, which is the OC BIOS
1:11 The Hellhound is better than the reference model due to increased power and cooling
1:48 7900 GRE vs 4070 current pricing
2:38 Alan Wake 2 1440p High (This game has no TAA, just FSR or DLSS)
3:14 Alan Wake 2 1440p High with RT Low DLSS/FSR Q
3:41 Alan Wake 2 1440p High with RT High DLSS/FSR Q
3:57 Is an RT lead relevant if you push the framerate lower than you would actually use?
4:55 Alan Wake 2 4K High
5:22 Alan Wake 2 4K High DLSS/FSR Q (FG on/off)
6:35 Avatar 1080p Ultra
7:03 Avatar 1440p Ultra
7:29 Avatar 1440p Ultra DLSS/FSR Q
7:55 DLSS vs FSR image quality discussion
8:11 Avatar 1440p Ultra FSR3 Q with FG on
8:38 Avatar 1440p High
9:05 Avatar 4K Ultra
9:32 Avatar 4K Ultra DLSS/FSR Q
10:00 Avatar 4K High
10:26 Avatar 4K High DLSS/FSR Q
10:54 Avatar 4K High FSR3 Q with FG
11:21 Cyberpunk 2077 1080p Ultra
11:48 Cyberpunk 2077 1440p Ultra
12:16 Cyberpunk 2077 1440p RT Overdrive DLSS/FSR Q (FG on/off)
12:36 Is Pathtracing a realistic use case for the 4070?
14:08 Cyberpunk 2077 1440p Ultra with RT Reflections
14:36 Cyberpunk 2077 1440p Ultra with RT Reflections DLSS/FSR Q (FG on/off)
15:02 How would you rather play Cyberpunk?
16:06 Cyberpunk 4K Ultra
16:33 Cyberpunk 4K High
17:00 Cyberpunk 4K High DLSS/FSR Q
17:28 RoboCop 1080p Epic
17:54 RoboCop 1440p Epic
18:21 RoboCop 4K Epic
18:49 RoboCop 4K Epic DLSS/FSR Q (FG on/off)
19:17 Unreal Engine 5 Upscaling: FSR vs TSR
19:43 Starfield 1080p Ultra
20:10 Starfield 1440p Ultra
20:37 Starfield 4K Ultra
21:05 Starfield 4K Ultra DLSS/FSR Q
21:32 Starfield 4K Ultra DLSS3 Q FG vs FSR 3 Q FG
21:59 Starfield 4K Ultra FSR 3 Q FG
22:26 Ratchet and Clank 1440p Very High
22:54 Ratchet and Clank 4K Very High
23:21 Ratchet and Clank 1440p Very High with RT High
23:45 Wait, what's going on here? 12GB VRAM vs 16GB VRAM
25:23 Ratchet and Clank 1440p Very High with RT High DLSS/FSR Q (FG on/off)
25:53 Resident Evil 4 Remake 1440p Max
26:17 Resident Evil 4 Remake 1440p Prioritize Graphics
26:44 Resident Evil 4 Remake 4K Max
27:11 Resident Evil 4 Remake 4K Prioritize Graphics
27:38 CoD MW3 1080p Basic
28:06 CoD MW3 1440p Basic
28:33 CoD MW3 4K Basic
29:00 Baldur's Gate 3 1440p Ultra
29:27 Baldur's Gate 3 4K Ultra
29:59 Final Thoughts

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@MlnscBoo
@MlnscBoo 5 месяцев назад
The little Daniel moving around the screen is hilarious
@georgebeard2337
@georgebeard2337 5 месяцев назад
He's floating around like a little fairy😆
@thicclink
@thicclink 5 месяцев назад
It's one of my favorite parts of this channel lol
@MlnscBoo
@MlnscBoo 5 месяцев назад
@@thicclink agreed, pretty original in the tech creator space
@terencespark
@terencespark 5 месяцев назад
when he points out stuff in articles, it's the best. it's both funny and functional lol
@blaken3824
@blaken3824 5 месяцев назад
legit only reviewer that does that. love these videos
@NikTek
@NikTek 5 месяцев назад
I’m glad you’re keeping these up to date with all the benchmarks and real-life gameplay tests. Great work keep it up 👍
@moodlethenoodle
@moodlethenoodle 5 месяцев назад
Can you make a meme of walter white crying in the basement (he is the gpu industry) and skylar is GTA 6? Love your vids btw
@BanaNutz_Gaming
@BanaNutz_Gaming 5 месяцев назад
Dude, stop commenting and make memes!
@Thejacketof-huang
@Thejacketof-huang 5 месяцев назад
It's over AMBug users 💀
@ThunderingRoar
@ThunderingRoar 5 месяцев назад
​@Thejacketof-huang Your entire youtube channel and every single comment is based around fanboying an Nvidia card. This is giving off some real strong "i saved up my allowance money to buy 4060 so i gotta seek validation" energy
@HanSolo__
@HanSolo__ 5 месяцев назад
When Daniel shrinks down to a tiny size (aaa!), you know that things are about to get serious.
@gamingcomputers7485
@gamingcomputers7485 5 месяцев назад
😂😂😂
@NatrajChaturvedi
@NatrajChaturvedi 5 месяцев назад
I have been criticizing AMD for dissapointing us and not competing with Nvidia for a long time but thank you for reviewing this card like this. 7900 gre definitely seems an attractive option from the red team.
@frankwainwright7826
@frankwainwright7826 5 месяцев назад
I still think it's too little too late, here in the UK you can get 4070 supers at the same price as the 7900 GRE, and although the 7900gre does win in some raster titles, I think the overall features package makes the 4070 Super the better choice
@user-et7tk5rp7e
@user-et7tk5rp7e 5 месяцев назад
​@@frankwainwright7826Yes, I think ray tracing is the future and there will be more and more RT only games like Avatar (which is sponsored by AMD by the way)
@JimmyJr630
@JimmyJr630 5 месяцев назад
@@frankwainwright7826Vram is more important. The 7900 GRE will last 5 years but 4070 super owners will become vram bottlenecked in new AAA games
@viniqf
@viniqf 5 месяцев назад
@@JimmyJr630 I honestly don't think 12 gigs of VRAM won't be enough for 1440p for a few years still. It's at 4k that textures are getting to the point where anything below 16gb is getting unusable. I'd rather get all the extra features and the efficiency Nvidia offers than just rasterization performance from AMD. Just different priorities/pov from me, I guess.
@JimmyJr630
@JimmyJr630 5 месяцев назад
@@viniqf Alan Wake becomes vram limited at 1440p at max settings, soon more games will follow suit. The features that Nvidia has are not really worth it. DLSS just increases latency and frame gen just closes the gap that AMDs increased performance creates. And ray tracing i shown to be good for the 7900 GRE so it’s not like they have much of a lead on ray tracing and are beaten half the time.
@UndyingGhost
@UndyingGhost 5 месяцев назад
Nice review Danial. It clearly shows 12gb vram limit when using higher resolutions and raytracing.
@chrisvig123
@chrisvig123 5 месяцев назад
For what it costs the 4070 super and all of the 12gb variants are pretty much doa.
@Efsaaneh
@Efsaaneh 5 месяцев назад
These 12 gb cards are great, only while they last tho
@KevDawg1992
@KevDawg1992 5 месяцев назад
This seems to be a problem with 70 class from the last couple of generations. Being very limited by the VRAM.
@lifemocker85
@lifemocker85 5 месяцев назад
​@@KevDawg1992 Planned obsolescence
@KevDawg1992
@KevDawg1992 5 месяцев назад
@@lifemocker85 very much so. Nvidia needs to be having people buy cards every single generation. Even Intel's cheapest 16GB with a 256 bit bus isn't even close to being $500.
@Harodis
@Harodis 5 месяцев назад
This was really insightful! Based on the 4070 vs 4070Super video, it seems like the 7900GRE might even be trading blows with the Super in rasterized performance. Super excited to see the next video!
@Lukas-lp2fz
@Lukas-lp2fz 5 месяцев назад
The 4070 Super will crush the 7900 GRE
@kosmosyche
@kosmosyche 5 месяцев назад
@lp2fz not really. lol But I'm sure Daniel will also test this in a day or two.
@johndoe5224
@johndoe5224 5 месяцев назад
nah take a seat fanboy with your 12gb vram@@Lukas-lp2fz
@RX7800XTBenchmarks
@RX7800XTBenchmarks 5 месяцев назад
​@@kosmosyche😂 I think he's gonna cry himself to sleep real soon.
@johndoe5224
@johndoe5224 5 месяцев назад
35:38 @@Lukas-lp2fz rekt
@Blackson187
@Blackson187 5 месяцев назад
AMD doesn't get enough credit for just how well their cards do Ray tracing more.
@GewelReal
@GewelReal 5 месяцев назад
You mean they aren't being bashed at on how TERRIBLE they are
@TheWoWBane
@TheWoWBane 5 месяцев назад
Anything below a 4080 super is going to be mediocre at raytracing. Not a big difference between 4070 super and 7900 gre
@HanSolo__
@HanSolo__ 5 месяцев назад
@@TheWoWBane I have both the GRE and 4070 Super. I can use RTX in Cyberpunk 2077 with RT-ON. But with RX 7900 GRE, the compromise is not worth enabling RT. I can turn ON shadows, etc. Both cards are from AiB partners and both are OC out of the box.
@aboodali1238
@aboodali1238 5 месяцев назад
Yeah most ppl choose Nvidia for nothing
@jeshmh
@jeshmh 5 месяцев назад
They still have a ways to go but they seem to be finally catching up on the rt front.
@wumbology72
@wumbology72 5 месяцев назад
My initial impressions for this card was really bad because hardware unboxed reviewed a china only reference model. Seems the partner models clock higher for a significant fps boost that actually makes this compelling.
@ObakuZenCenter
@ObakuZenCenter 5 месяцев назад
HU have had shady testing for years. They finally got caught out by the look of it.
@KingVulpes
@KingVulpes 5 месяцев назад
NVIDIA fans when AMD is good at raytracing: "TRASH, ABSOLUTE TRASH!!!! BUY NVIDIA"
@selohcin
@selohcin 5 месяцев назад
Excellent work, Daniel. I agree that the 7900 GRE is the better card at $550, but the Powercolor Hellhound version you used is $580, which is the same price as your 6950 XT Merc 319. It seems that the 6950 XT and the 7900 GRE deliver nearly the same performance, the same VRAM, and the same memory bandwidth. Even the power draw is almost the same! The 4070 is out of my considerations for the reasons you listed, and now I'm trying to decide between the 6950 XT and the 7900 GRE. Would you be willing to compare them? No one on the internet has done this, and I don't think anyone ever will unless you do it. If you could, please display the fan speeds so we can estimate noise levels. Thanks a million!
@JVCFever0
@JVCFever0 5 месяцев назад
Get the 7900 for the newer architecture and better RT implementation
@selohcin
@selohcin 5 месяцев назад
@@JVCFever0 If I recall correctly, Gamers Nexus showed the 6950 being slightly faster at ray tracing than the GRE is.
@carlr2837
@carlr2837 5 месяцев назад
So, it's the about the same price at the 4070 Super, which I've seen at 589?
@bryansullivan9588
@bryansullivan9588 5 месяцев назад
I would just jump up to the Sapphire Pulse AMD Radeon RX 7900 XT amazon and newegg $699
@Kage0No0Tenshi
@Kage0No0Tenshi 5 месяцев назад
I was looking at 4070 vs 7800xt vs 6950xt back in 2023 at september and buy 6950xt at August, was bad one I got as 21000 graphics score time spy then overclock and undervolt got stable 365W usage and score of 23300. 23990 highest score I got as overclock unstable. 7900gre get 21200 score as avg is really good, it's basically same as 6950xt, go for 7900gre for longer support. They are good as 4070ti almost.
@michaelthompson9798
@michaelthompson9798 5 месяцев назад
I personally found your 7900GRE more informative and showing better variances from the 7800XT than HUB with the difference being 2-3% 🤷‍♂🤷‍♀🤦‍♂🤦‍♀. The 7900GRE is, imo a decent option despite being an Nvidia GPU user.
@GewelReal
@GewelReal 5 месяцев назад
Nvidia user enjoying castrated cards
@kosmosyche
@kosmosyche 5 месяцев назад
HUB just retested with Sapphire GRE and got noticeably better results than the reference AMD model they tested before. Seems like raised power limits and better cooling help AIB models quite substantially.
@kalaichelvan
@kalaichelvan 5 месяцев назад
They re reviewed it
@HanSolo__
@HanSolo__ 5 месяцев назад
This!
@atnfn
@atnfn 5 месяцев назад
@@GewelRealnVidia cards are good, just overpriced.
@opfreak
@opfreak 5 месяцев назад
Bro amd still isnt there in ray tracing we all know this. The 7900 xtx is legit worse than a 4070 in heavy rt i don’t get what your tryna show here.
@Angel7black
@Angel7black 5 месяцев назад
True, it only holds up in things like like shadows in RT, which barely makes a difference visually and isnt very taxing. My guess is he actually doesnt know this cause hes not a dishonest actor. Nobody should be buying either of these imo anyways and just go with the 4070 Super.
@opfreak
@opfreak 5 месяцев назад
@@Angel7black yea most likely and oversight on his point no big deal. Also yea thats what id go with if i didnt bite the bullet too fast and got the 4070. Massive upgrade for me tho since i came from 2060 super and my pc was dying.
@bingbong3084
@bingbong3084 5 месяцев назад
first of all hilarious, second of all i own 3060ti so im no amd shill my self , but most games only have RT shadows or AO or reflections , so yes AMD runs close to Nvidia in most real games , not imaginary games that have Path tracing or 4 Ray Tracing features combined , and secindly a lot of games that have the best RT setting , RT GI , like Avatar and a lot of UE5 games use software raytracing thay doesnt have as much of difference between Nvidia and AMD , and you see that in benchmarks , and if going forward most games will use software lumen and similar solutions , then no you wont see this huge difference between AMD and Nvidia performance in RT , its just reality of what type of RT games use ​@@Angel7black
@HappyHubris
@HappyHubris 5 месяцев назад
Yeah another 7900XTX owner here, and RT just tanks results. Something like Witcher 3 is embarrassing on the XTX without good upscaling, RT, frame gen.
@Kahunaseb
@Kahunaseb 5 месяцев назад
PLUS the 4070 is weaker than the 3080 in RT perfomance cause it has lees RT Cores than the 3080.
@normanblack4005
@normanblack4005 5 месяцев назад
I notice in Ratchet and Clank you show forty something FPS on the 4070 at 1440 with RT. Previously you benchmarked the 4070 with about 64 FPS at 1440 very high with RT. (RX 7800XT vs RTX 4070 vs RX 6950 XT- In the newest games!!) Techpowerup also shows about 70 FPS at 1440 highest with RT (custom scene). So 60-70 in other tests. Your current numbers are significantly lower. What's up with the discrepancy?
@purgatorysrath4455
@purgatorysrath4455 5 месяцев назад
😱 you caught em red handed huh! Seems like an interrogation and not a question! If you want specific numbers and want to call people out for them, then your critique numbers shouldn't say you mentioned 40 something on other reviews! Let's be real here.
@ekupka
@ekupka 5 месяцев назад
One number that caught my attention was the 280W, which is around the same power draw as the 4070 Ti Super, It'd be interesting to see a comparison from the perspective of "which company makes better use of those 280W
@MLWJ1993
@MLWJ1993 5 месяцев назад
It's Nvidia, easily. I however find that it doesn't matter too much in large tower desktops. Now for smaller form factor PC's the lower profile versions of Nvidia GPU's are probably more desirable overall.
@lifemocker85
@lifemocker85 5 месяцев назад
Undervolt
@HunterTracks
@HunterTracks 5 месяцев назад
Nvidia, but not by that much tbh, 4070 Ti Super is only about 15% faster in raster on average according to Techpowerup.
@Pand0rasAct0r_
@Pand0rasAct0r_ 5 месяцев назад
eh power usage doesnt really matter when your thinking on buying a 550 dollar/600 euro card lol
@douglasmurphy3266
@douglasmurphy3266 5 месяцев назад
Just look at the die process for your answer. N5+N6 chiplets vs 4N monolithic
@blackstar-genX
@blackstar-genX 5 месяцев назад
I wished this came out before i bought my 7800xt lol. Can't cry over spoiled milk. And I'm enjoying my 7800xt
@ciscovj4939
@ciscovj4939 5 месяцев назад
I bought my daughter a 7800 xt last month but if this was out I would have gone with it instead. She won’t notice the difference 😂🤣😂🤣
@txmetalcobra
@txmetalcobra 5 месяцев назад
Same. I like my 7800XT but it would have been nice if AMD would have just launched the 7900 GRE everywhere at the same time. It would have sold well.
@iequalsnoob
@iequalsnoob 5 месяцев назад
4070 super is still the best mid tier option so it doesnt matter
@ciscovj4939
@ciscovj4939 5 месяцев назад
@@iequalsnoob LMAO 🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂😂🤣
@diamonshade7484
@diamonshade7484 5 месяцев назад
​@@txmetalcobrait would have been more expensive
@Slambear
@Slambear 5 месяцев назад
I think 4070 Super vs 7900 GRE, either one you pick you'll be happy. I wonder if this is gonna be the strategy from now on, up the CUs to match raytracing on Nvidia gpus next generation.
@lifemocker85
@lifemocker85 5 месяцев назад
You wont be happy long with only 12gb
@Slambear
@Slambear 5 месяцев назад
@@lifemocker85 not a gpu reviewer but I have 2 systems. 3080 12gb, and 7800xt. I play on 4k high settings with upscaling performance-quality (80 fps my target). I’ll experience first hand the short comings of VRAM. So far, I prefer playing on the 3080. It’s faster, performs better on 4k, and for some reason, Overwatch feels more responsive with reflex as opposed to anti lag.
@skyryudo311
@skyryudo311 5 месяцев назад
@@Slambear faster I would say on par, depends on the game anyway. Difference is that 3080 has already lived long enough so it's kinda ok for the VRAM issue to be slowly appearing. On a 4070/super it's less ok. It was great for those people with 3070/ti as well...VRAM bottlenecking is already happening on selective title with 12gb on 1440p. But yeah overwatch and games like that it doesn't really matter. Maybe anti lag+ which was removed will help on AMD side.
@nicane-9966
@nicane-9966 5 месяцев назад
with the 10gb model the vram is a problem but he has the 12gb model so yet he is to find problems because for now unless 4k there are no problems. the 3080 12 gb is also a bit faster aswell comapred to the 3080 10gb so it is around the same to slighty superior
@lifemocker85
@lifemocker85 5 месяцев назад
@@Slambear those are not 4k gpus
@alexandrebini4688
@alexandrebini4688 День назад
The Best comparison I've ever seen. you focused on usage and not just numbers
@argmits
@argmits 5 месяцев назад
The Ngreedia Fanboi Army has been deployed here. Get ready for "Dlss is better" and "RT perfomance" spammed like hell even though Daniel proves both arguments wrong in the this matchup.
@andersjjensen
@andersjjensen 5 месяцев назад
Yup. And then they go "I wish AMD was more competitive" in every video about GPU prices, because they want cheap AMD GPUs to push the prices of Nvidia GPUs down. And Nvidia knows all this perfectly well. The sales numbers don't lie. Unless they're willing to say "Screw you Nvidia. I'm going AMD for this generation, and I'll only come back if things improve" nothing will change.
@etchieSketchie
@etchieSketchie 5 месяцев назад
Maybe I'm old but all I ever want is smooth 60fps with good timing. People nowadays wanting 80+ fps is overkill in my opinion. Yeah I acknowledge it can help in a professional competitive environment, but c'mon, 99% aren't a pro. lol
@BlackJesus8463
@BlackJesus8463 5 месяцев назад
Fast internet and monitor response are just as important as high fps. If either one of those things are lacking more frames will just be more shit.
@etchieSketchie
@etchieSketchie 5 месяцев назад
@@BlackJesus8463 yup
@masterlee1988
@masterlee1988 5 месяцев назад
@@etchieSketchie80fps+ isn't overkill, going over 120fps+ is IMO(for single player definitely). Then again 120fps is the max I would want but I'm fine with just 60-100fps for pretty much any game. Plus it'll be easier to run as well.
@andersjjensen
@andersjjensen 5 месяцев назад
Most certainly depends on what you're playing and how fast your monitors response time is. Even back in the CRT days (where response time wasn't an issue and the internal processing time of the monitor was essentially 0ms) I preferred 75-85FPS in action packed games. Sure, "slow burn" investigation/puzzler/adventure games and RTS games often benefit from higher visuals at the expense of framerate, but racing sims, shooters and combat games are often so fast paced that you don't even notice the visual quality hit from dropping from Ultra to High, but you sure as hell notice the boost in responsiveness.
@chronomize
@chronomize 3 месяца назад
120 is generally what people use. Personally I upgraded to 100 and I can't go back lol
@eisamahmood5608
@eisamahmood5608 5 месяцев назад
Do we think the 7800xt will be reduced? I’m thinking of making my first pc but unsure if I should wait a bit
@HanSolo__
@HanSolo__ 5 месяцев назад
I say, wait a bit. Maybe look for the 4070 Super sale. Seems those "Super" models cooled down in the past two weeks. I was into RX 7900GRE/7900XT. I even purchased one but resigned the same day. Next week, I found a 4070 Super (open box) with a nice discount. I was not sure for a while, but I picked it. But, the card was already sold at their regular store. An hour later, the guy called me and asked if I still wanted one. I got a new one, and he also added a Kingston USB memory for "inconvenience". It was worth waiting for so long. For all the new AMD 7800XT, then the "Super" models, and even a bit longer. Good luck! Ps. Prices in Europe are far from those you have in the US. Especially during the Amazon Sale. We don't have any actual "Sale".
@deltasource56
@deltasource56 5 месяцев назад
I was hyped for this card, however a few things turned me iff from it 1. The wild difference in performance from different manufacturers based on clock 2. Reports of thermal throttling in some cards 3. The price on some cards puts it on par to 4070 super 4. Ill wait since its a newish product
@kohiek
@kohiek 5 месяцев назад
What about using XeSS instead of FSR. I know it isn't as efficient, but at 1440p or 4k? Does XeSS Balanced beat FSR Quality on AMD? Honestly if the performance and Vram differences continue like this, then XeSS might be good enough to have me move away from DLSS.
@puladan9296
@puladan9296 17 дней назад
Got my GRE for 2 weeks now and ou boy i am very happy! I play at 1440p and have no issues.
@19alive
@19alive 5 месяцев назад
I would rather have a GPU with 7900 GRE raster performance and VRAM and 4070 power consumption and RT/DLSS
@BlackJesus8463
@BlackJesus8463 5 месяцев назад
On your oldass lcd display?
@HunterTracks
@HunterTracks 5 месяцев назад
Just buy a 4080 and downclock it, problem solved /s
@ciscovj4939
@ciscovj4939 5 месяцев назад
@@HunterTrackslol. Why would you jump to a card that cost double 😂🤣😂🤣. Wouldn’t it make more sense to get a 4070 TI super before jumping to a 4080?
@HunterTracks
@HunterTracks 5 месяцев назад
@@ciscovj4939 4070 Ti Super has 15% higher raster performance than 7900 GRE while consuming 40% more power than the 4070, I don't think it'll be enough to fulfill the conditions here.
@ciscovj4939
@ciscovj4939 5 месяцев назад
@@HunterTracks but the 4080 uses more power than the 4070 TI super. Wouldn’t it be easier to under volt the 4070ti super than the 4080?
@centenario6677
@centenario6677 5 месяцев назад
When i got my pc 4070 was the only gpu in this price range (New) now seeing these cards coming out makes me wish i waited.
@kaishajacobye
@kaishajacobye 5 месяцев назад
Buyers remorse will always happen. You will wait for the nvidia and amd 5000 or 8000 series, but decide to wait for better and newer models and by the time that comes around the 6000 and 9000 series gets announced so you wait for that and the cycle repeats. Just be happy with your purchase
@nicane-9966
@nicane-9966 5 месяцев назад
you been enjoying your cards for months shouldnt worry tbh. techs gets """"""old"""""" very quickly sadly. However as long as its doing what you want it to do or more is fine.
@reymo181
@reymo181 5 месяцев назад
maybe im fool but i went and buyed 4070 as it was discounted by 100 euros so total it was like 150 cheaper then 7900GRE. For 7900 i would of had to buy new power supply also. I have used AMD since rx 580 and all my AMD cards have cooling problems so i can see if nvidia is any better xD
@venator9536
@venator9536 5 месяцев назад
Kind of in the same boat. Currently have a 2060S and the only worthwhile upgrade for me would be the 4070, since I wouldn't have to change my PSU or anything else. I'm still waiting tho since the price in CAD is just ridiculously high
@BlackJesus8463
@BlackJesus8463 5 месяцев назад
Bruh your RX580 didn't have cooling problems. lol
@walter274
@walter274 5 месяцев назад
I'm interested in the 4070 super vs 7900 GRE. As for ratchet and clank, in one of your older videos you showed that the 4060ti-16gb beats the 4070. It's very vram hungry, i wonder if that is because of direct storage. I think the 7900 GRE is a good deal.
@SaraMorgan-ym6ue
@SaraMorgan-ym6ue 4 месяца назад
you getting the 7900 GRE?
@infiniteblaz3416
@infiniteblaz3416 5 месяцев назад
Where did all of these Nvidia fanboys come from?
@EveryGameGuru
@EveryGameGuru 5 месяцев назад
Nvidia has the better product. It's not "being a fanboy" it's a fact 🤷🏻‍♂
@ebonygyro8736
@ebonygyro8736 5 месяцев назад
IKR
@yellowflash511
@yellowflash511 5 месяцев назад
​@@EveryGameGurusays the fanboy. Congrats, you just proved him right.
@EveryGameGuru
@EveryGameGuru 5 месяцев назад
@@yellowflash511 Not a fanboy, a purveyor of facts. Defending an inferior product with excuses is "being a fanboy", which is what AMD users do, defend a dollar store product
@fattyusmcchubbs9200
@fattyusmcchubbs9200 5 месяцев назад
@@EveryGameGuruDon’t bash AMD in a non factual false narrative based argument. Nobody who bought AMD last or current gen complained that they overpaid, games don’t run / lag because of insufficient vram and bus width. How Nvidia bros bash AMD while complaining that their 3070s and 3080s can’t play new games without running out of vram forcing them to spend more money on an upgrade is beyond me. The level of copium and fanboyism you have to be on to get ripped off by Nvidia and keep buying them because “AMD bad”. Btw, I bought a 3080 ti from 3 years go and wish I had bought the 6900xt.
@zodwraith5745
@zodwraith5745 5 месяцев назад
Take note that the Hellhound is NOT $550, but $580, and you can get a 4070 super for $590. If you use the reference model GRE it looks notably worse than the overclocked models.
@HanSolo__
@HanSolo__ 5 месяцев назад
overclock the reference model GRE
@zodwraith5745
@zodwraith5745 5 месяцев назад
@@HanSolo__ Willfully introducing overclocked models into testing creates a minefield of problems, because no 2 cards of even the same model overclock the same. Not to mention then you need to overclock the Nvidia card as well. What if you get an amazing OC on the 4070 super and a terrible OC on the hellhound? Using overclocked models as representative of an entire class of GPU is just a bad idea.
@the.ben.johnson
@the.ben.johnson 5 месяцев назад
💥 Sharpness and definition are really bad in NVIDIA, serrated? I have an notebook Lenovo Legion 5i i7 12700h RTX 3060 and the image IN THAT THINGS are worst than in my Acer Aspire 5 Ryzen 7 5700u Integrated Graphics in the same conditions! NVIDIA ugly, AMD beautiful! And the filters of Experience increaaes the sharpness, but don't turn to beautiful, like AMD!
@justin837
@justin837 5 месяцев назад
7700 moved to 419. Should have moved to 399. 7800xt to 469 And 7900 gre to like 539 just to be slightly cheaper than 4070 and would have been more of a home run for AMD. But hey any company MOVING PRICE TO PERFORMANCE DOWN rather than up. Like some others…it’s always a win for consumers.
@BlackJesus8463
@BlackJesus8463 5 месяцев назад
OLED is better than raytracing. ✌
@lifemocker85
@lifemocker85 5 месяцев назад
78xt should be 400
@masterlee1988
@masterlee1988 5 месяцев назад
@@lifemocker85How about RX 7900 GRE?
@justin837
@justin837 5 месяцев назад
@@lifemocker85 we all wish the 4090 was 1000 but that’s not feasible. has to continue to move price to performance. Rdna 4 hopefully brings that level of performance down to more consumers.
@lifemocker85
@lifemocker85 5 месяцев назад
@@masterlee1988 450 after taxes max
@VeritronX
@VeritronX 5 месяцев назад
Gotta also remember that FSR isn't the only upscaling option you have on AMD cards, it's usually not that hard to replace it either natively or using mods.. and even with a higher performance hit you'd still be ahead most of the time, especially when also doing RT.
@theUSuser
@theUSuser 5 месяцев назад
Found a new 4070 on amazon at $385. Wouldn't spend 540 for its original price, but I could definitely say it was the best 400$ gpu out at that time.
@Cute_Maxi
@Cute_Maxi 5 месяцев назад
I wanna see someone OC the 7900 GRE because I suspect its an OC monster
@ryan-we1ml
@ryan-we1ml 5 месяцев назад
but look at the power consumption
@infiniteblaz3416
@infiniteblaz3416 5 месяцев назад
@@ryan-we1mlRDNA 3 cards go by the entire board for their power consumption metrics.
@nicane-9966
@nicane-9966 5 месяцев назад
It doesnt is fully capped by amd.
@roki977
@roki977 5 месяцев назад
maybe on Nitro plus where is not so much power limited, Hellhound also takes bit more juice than reference. Vram speeds holds this gpu and its not good for OC, maybe some models can go higher than stock on vram speed.
@ryan-we1ml
@ryan-we1ml 5 месяцев назад
@infiniteblaz3416 got it, thanks for the info!
@dsfdsgsd644
@dsfdsgsd644 5 месяцев назад
You can undervolt 4070 and slightly overclock memory => same performance with ~140-150W consume, lol. So tech wise ADA is killing these AMD radiators lol
@lifemocker85
@lifemocker85 5 месяцев назад
12gb is planned obsolescence
@dsfdsgsd644
@dsfdsgsd644 5 месяцев назад
@@lifemocker85 Just buy 4090 or 7900 xtx
@lifemocker85
@lifemocker85 5 месяцев назад
@@dsfdsgsd644 ridiculously overpriced
@J0ttaD
@J0ttaD 5 месяцев назад
I hate how nobody does RT comparisons most of the time. Thnx for this. But tbh right from the beginning of the video the 7900GRE is using 100 more watts than the 4070... for a mere 5 fps that kinda adds up
@lifemocker85
@lifemocker85 5 месяцев назад
undervolt
@android33.
@android33. 5 месяцев назад
"Honey, come back to bed." "In a minute, Daniel is being based again."
@madhaze0126
@madhaze0126 5 месяцев назад
Hey Daniel , another great vid , can I ask you ...are you still loving and using the LG C2? or do you now use a different monitor. Cheers.
@FunFunFun8888
@FunFunFun8888 5 месяцев назад
LG is to dim. Samsung QN90 in Game Mode is way better with 2000+ nits brightness and no burn in and better blacks than OLED. Sony has set the new standard of 4000 nits which means OLED TV is dead. Play on QN90 and you will see the difference is mind blowing and you never go back to dim OLED. OLED is only good for phones and tablets with Samsung AMOLED.
@JesManVP
@JesManVP 2 месяца назад
​@FunFunFun8888 I think lg is fine if you where to get an oled tho it would be the smamsung qd oled 1000 nits and also oled I have the lg c3 it's only 861 nits but still good enough depends what you want tho more brightness or less perfect blacks
@JahonCross
@JahonCross 5 месяцев назад
Getting the GRE 16gb vram is what I want
@snarlynx1
@snarlynx1 5 месяцев назад
The thing about the showing the way the games would really be played - AMD users usually don’t use FSR because of the visual quality hit so it’s really often DLSS vs native
@stebo5562
@stebo5562 5 месяцев назад
Depend on resolution. Fsr at 4K or even 1440p is good. Maybe if I put my 4070 and 7800xt systems next to each other and compared, I could see a difference but honestly I can’t tell at quality settings. Dlss does better at the balanced setting for sure though
@jrminate
@jrminate 5 месяцев назад
FSR 2+ on Quality when selecting 1440p or higher in the menu actually looks pretty good. I personally don't ever use below quality on any upscale. TSR which is an unreal engine 5 upscale can look better than even DLSS sometimes if you compare quality mode vs quality mode. They all have pros and cons, nvidia is never perfect either.
@BlackJesus8463
@BlackJesus8463 5 месяцев назад
AMD users dont need FSR because of all the frames.
@snarlynx1
@snarlynx1 5 месяцев назад
@@stebo5562 look at the video you’re on they aren’t 4k cards
@snarlynx1
@snarlynx1 5 месяцев назад
@@BlackJesus8463 incredibly dumb take. The results of DLSS quality vs AMD native is literally in the video you’re commenting on
@PainkillerDCXVI
@PainkillerDCXVI 5 месяцев назад
Don't go for 12gb of VRAM guys... Not at this point in the ps5/xbox lifespan and with some games already asking for more, in 2 to 3 years you will definitely go through some games that will disappoint you.
@awhs5435
@awhs5435 5 месяцев назад
its crazy to me that a $800 card cant even do 60 fps in 1440p in modern games that look no different then games 5 years ago when a 2080 would push 100fps+ on 1440p easily
@seventhsun1
@seventhsun1 5 месяцев назад
Thank you for the benchmarks Daniel, but man oh man! the game industry must be in really bad state if you still keep testing some of the already irrelevant or forgotten titles.
@EdToml
@EdToml 5 месяцев назад
The RX7700xt has also dropped its MSRP. In Canada Prices are looking like (scores from gpu.benchmark using average score): card cost score $/score rx7700xt $560 100 5.60 rx7800xt $680 118 5.76 rx7900gre $750 127 5.91 Which is a bit of a surprise. Looks like the rx7700xt's price drop makes it more interesting. Comments?
@takehirolol5962
@takehirolol5962 5 месяцев назад
The 7700 XT is not that interesting as an investment at even $400 US. We are still not in the last phase of the PS5 era, we are at the 2nd phase since games are more demanding and most Tech RU-vidrs do not test the latest UE5 titles. I am saving and waiting for RDNA4.
@kt311.
@kt311. 5 месяцев назад
as a person who mostly plays older AAA titles and has no interest in newer titles, i think a 7700xt will be fine for my new build. I have a 1440p monitor so mmax id go is still a 7800xt. I still think 7800xt is the sweet spot for most people
@The11devans
@The11devans 5 месяцев назад
What on earth is gpu.benchmark score? What about actual game results?
@EdToml
@EdToml 5 месяцев назад
@@kt311. Agreed. I've not seen much said about the new MSRP for the rx7700xt. Figured that it was interesting in that in makes the card a better value for some use cases which was not the case before. As it stands now, I'd love to get a rx7900gre. Aside from games I also play with locally run AI and the extra compute units in the gre (and the 16G) will help.
@masterlee1988
@masterlee1988 5 месяцев назад
@@takehirolol5962Yeah I'm also waiting on RDNA 4 to see what it offers for price to performance as well.
@carlr2837
@carlr2837 5 месяцев назад
The GRE seems to consistently run 8-12 degrees cooler even though the GRE is 270 watts and the 4070 is only 200 watts. That's a credit to the PowerColor. Maybe they should rename themselves PowerCooler. ;)
@Housey29
@Housey29 5 месяцев назад
Excellent video intersting in upgrading but will wait on Battlemage offerings when they arrive!!
@meesironman
@meesironman 5 месяцев назад
What are Battlemage offerings if you dont mind my asking?
@Housey29
@Housey29 5 месяцев назад
@@meesironmanIts B980 supposed flagship around 4070ti/4080 performance at half the price. Also a lower tier card just need to wait on what is released q2/3
@Kage0No0Tenshi
@Kage0No0Tenshi 5 месяцев назад
They said same for intel a770 16gb but performance is now between 3060ti/3070, it was supposed to be a 3070/3080 tier inte could not keep up.
@Housey29
@Housey29 5 месяцев назад
@@Kage0No0TenshiIntel being new to the discreet gpu market had alot catching up to do hopefully this time it much better release.
@devencherry8976
@devencherry8976 5 месяцев назад
Love the videos, keep up the great work..
@SaraMorgan-ym6ue
@SaraMorgan-ym6ue 4 месяца назад
I farted baby
@XPLOSIVization
@XPLOSIVization 5 месяцев назад
Thank you for doing the 1080p tests, im one of those people who intend to buy the GRE for 1080p i also use Vsync, This is mainly because im still rocking a good 60Hz 1080p LED TV (46 inch) and im content with it, Plus i can max all my settings in all my games, Sure its not as sharpe as 1440p or 4k but in the Radeon software i can turn on Radeon image sharpening which is pretty good (10% sharpening is what i use and like)
@jamieeddolls5605
@jamieeddolls5605 3 месяца назад
This is a super cursed comment bro. 1080p monitors are fine especially for high hz competitive fps players but why on earth would you want a 7900 gre for 60hz 1080p? That's like buying a helicopter solely to use the rotar blades to chop your food. Vsync too ahhh, lord have mercy
@Scott-fy4rz
@Scott-fy4rz 5 месяцев назад
AMD recently confirmed the OC limits on this card are being removed. The Sapphire Pulse model at 550 with a stable aggressive OC will be an incredibly desirable midrange product.
@MirelRC
@MirelRC 5 месяцев назад
It would be interesting to see RX 6900 XT vs RX 7900 GRE, especially in Ray Tracing.
@BlackJesus8463
@BlackJesus8463 5 месяцев назад
Raytracing doesn't even look that good and when you account for the performance hit its just nmot worth it. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
@lifemocker85
@lifemocker85 5 месяцев назад
​@@BlackJesus8463 light rt the performance is the same check GN review
@MirelRC
@MirelRC 5 месяцев назад
@@BlackJesus8463 I don't like cube maps and SSR.
@SpeikobraRote
@SpeikobraRote 4 месяца назад
Im starring at the watt usage there... 290watt + n the 7900 gre is really really ouch. Im not entirely done with the video but I believe theres no undervolting involved there? cause almost 100watt more power draw is insane.
@GavrilSuhacev
@GavrilSuhacev 5 месяцев назад
My way to play cyberpunk on 7900gre is 4k/high intel xess ultra quality and Fsr3mod and i will get 110-120fps , I play with the same settings on my 7800xt and i have 100fps its very good to play cybepunk like this especially on 4k120hz 50inch tv
@RotNcroch
@RotNcroch 5 месяцев назад
I would have went with AMD for my gpu but dlss is way better than fsr and the rt performance is also better with nvidia.
@thedudely1
@thedudely1 5 месяцев назад
Thank you AMD for releasing the GRE!! Gives me flashbacks to the R9 290X a little bit. We love wide GPUs with lots of cores and memory!!! Granted, we're losing some power efficiency, but AMD has improved their power efficiency a lot since the 290x obviously.
@504NO
@504NO 5 месяцев назад
What not be compared to the super version? Regular 4070 is also $80 cheaper and consumes much less power.
@luzhang2982
@luzhang2982 5 месяцев назад
Its clear he wants to do a clickbait video for money and that narrative doesn’t get him more money. From the benchmarks you can figure out the super is just going to be better outright here
@780Chris
@780Chris 5 месяцев назад
@@luzhang2982Wtf are you talking about? Official MSRP for the 4070 and 7900 GRE is $549, the 4070 Super is $599. What clickbait and narrative is he creating?
@TerraWare
@TerraWare 5 месяцев назад
@@luzhang2982 No its not clear. They cost around $550 in the US. What is this? Anytime someone does a comparison of products they dont like or agree with it must be bias or theyre in it just for the money. All youtubers make videos for the clicks and money so its like saying the sky is blue. You just want to see Nvidia win and other clowns who want to see AMD win accuse him of being an Nvidia shill. Its just a comparison between two products that cost the same in his country of residence and where most of his audience resides. Its easy to understand. I can walk in at my local store and buy a 4070 for $550 or a 7900 GRE for the same price. This video makes perfect sense
@miseethi
@miseethi 5 месяцев назад
In Germany the cheapest 4070 cost € 588,- (inkl. VAT) and the cheapest 7900 GRE cost € 588,- (inkl. VAT). I think this is the same price ;-)
@javierarroyo6600
@javierarroyo6600 5 месяцев назад
Just one thing, ratchet and clank is not optimized for Nvidia graphics cards, it's more VRAM hungry than usual, because it was built for PS5 in mind (amd architecture, more VRAM dependent) that game doesn't benefit from the huge amount of L2 cache that Nvidia cards has
@javierarroyo6600
@javierarroyo6600 5 месяцев назад
And this happens a lot on games that are ported from Xbox or PS5 to pc, not a coincidence
@hamster_master
@hamster_master 5 месяцев назад
its not that game isn't optimized its that NVidia doesn't give enough vram
@andersjjensen
@andersjjensen 5 месяцев назад
It's kind of a weird title. The level of RT it runs on the consoles is plainly not available in the PC port settings. So in raster it favours AMD a good deal but with RT it completely tanks on AMD like Cyberpunk.... and lo and behold, the PC port is an "Nvidia sponsored title".
@Rspsand07
@Rspsand07 5 месяцев назад
​@@javierarroyo6600Obviously it's not a coincidence. Consoles have 16 gigs of shared Vram they can dynamically gimp as needed. If you're behind the consoles, you start running into issues, always been like that every console gen.
@verde5738
@verde5738 3 месяца назад
For me the efficiency is an important factor so the ~50% higher power consumption of the GRE is a pretty huge downside and basically, a deal-breaker.
@douglasmurphy3266
@douglasmurphy3266 5 месяцев назад
! Correct me if I'm wrong, trying to clear up what I've seen: ! As I understand it, someone needs to release an unlocked VBIOS to overcome arbitrary limitations on the GPU & Memory clocks? That the GDDR chips on the GRE are the same as on the 7800XT and are rated for 20Gbps (GRE set to 18, 7800XT set to 19.5), which would be a board power issue at reference, but AIBs are providing a power boost as well. So if the VBIOS wasn't limiting the memory clock, it would be within spec (not even pushing them) to get 11% more memory bandwidth. Pair that with an undervolt for the GPU and there should be sufficient power to gain some ground on the GPU clock as well? As it stands, the GRE looks like an OK offering. With an unlocked VBIOS it would be the best value, even paying $30 extra for an AIB with increased board power and dual VBIOS.
@perkzy5146
@perkzy5146 5 месяцев назад
Damn 7900 GRE actually SLAMS the 4070 unless u like really high RT to the point where the 4070 is getting 30fps, the rasterization increases is like a whole teir leap for AMD and priced the same that’s some good comp from AMD, nvidia kinda has to lower 4070 price now
@SureBlameItOnYourISP
@SureBlameItOnYourISP 5 месяцев назад
The 4070 needs to go back to $520 or even lower as it’s meant to compete with the 7800xt while the 7900gre is similar to the 4070s in raster. At just a $50 gap, I might opt for the 4070s for the feature set. Wish they kept the gap at $100 to make it as attentive as the 7800xt was when the 4070 was still at $600
@mortalkombatfight-clubsofi9637
@mortalkombatfight-clubsofi9637 Месяц назад
As a user with a GTX 1070 MSI Armor video card, i am sadly in need to get a new one. As i was looking around (from the start of the year) in my Country, i have decided to get a GPU for my b-day in September, as the last GPU i purchased was back in 2017. So the cards i can afford are: GIGABYTE GB R79GREGAMING OC-16GD (the one im learning towards) and a GIGABYTE GB N407SEAGLEOC ICE-12GD So i was like hmmmmm I don`t buy GPUs that often, RT is meh to me - i like it, but i don`t need it ..... And i am worried that 12gb of vRAM will NOT be enough in the next 3-5 years, before i can afford my next GPU :) (4070 Super will cost me: 740$ / and the 7900GRE will cost me: 660$) Considering how close the 2 are id say its better to simply save the dough and not go for Nvidia as its just more expensive...... The thing about the 7900GRE is that its main issue is its held back by its bandwidth due to its memory. So i asked my cousin who works at a PC repair shop, if he could potentially change my GPU`s memory in 1-2 years down the line and he Said YES, that can be done. I even asked him how much it would cost and he gave me a reasonable price. I`m thinking of going down the AMD route this time around as i simply HATE the idea of having a 12VHPR cable in my PC case...... My question is - what would be a good CPU/ RAM speed to pair with the RX7900GRE? Maybe a R7 7800X3D and a DDR5, 6000 mHz kit with tightest timings i can find for a decent price?
@Jojo_Tolentino
@Jojo_Tolentino 5 месяцев назад
4070 and the 7900 GRE are somewhat what I can consider the actual minimum as seen from this video as playable for RT, even not relying on upscaling. I have been wondering how long we should be waiting for RT to be playable without much performance penalty. Considering that is if RT is an option instead as a requirement (full RT rendering). Maybe 2 generations later from both AMD and NVIDIA that I would consider acceptable for RT performance judging from this video, if we consider 20-30% RT performance uplift per generation.
@Jojo_Tolentino
@Jojo_Tolentino 5 месяцев назад
I said consider many times…
@shk0014
@shk0014 5 месяцев назад
Mofos in chat think their electricity rates are similar to current era Europe. Check your electricity rates peeps, they are largely negligible for a device like a PC in most countries.
@vvhitevvizard_
@vvhitevvizard_ 5 месяцев назад
being an ordinary person in Europe, 100W less power consumption as a big deal for me.
@PeypaMikko-1842
@PeypaMikko-1842 5 месяцев назад
@@vvhitevvizard_ Being an ordinary person in Europe, I play like 2 hours a day.
@shk0014
@shk0014 5 месяцев назад
@@vvhitevvizard_ Sucks to be you mate, hope it gets better in the future.
@vvhitevvizard_
@vvhitevvizard_ 5 месяцев назад
@@shk0014 Personal preference. I prefer power efficiency.
@tristanweide
@tristanweide 5 месяцев назад
I find it interesting to look at the power consumption numbers. I'm surprised how much wattage this cut down card pulls compared to a 4070/Super.
@IceCreamePudding
@IceCreamePudding 5 месяцев назад
Alan Wake 2, seeing 195 vs 299 watts at some points its crazy how power inefficient the 7900GRE is
@lifemocker85
@lifemocker85 5 месяцев назад
For example 68xt is 200w gpu undervolted
@JADC1111
@JADC1111 5 месяцев назад
Power to performance is what you want to look at. 4070 super leads all GPUs in this category. 7900gre is middle of the pack.
@lifemocker85
@lifemocker85 5 месяцев назад
@@JADC1111 12gb gpus you dont want to look at.
@JADC1111
@JADC1111 5 месяцев назад
@@lifemocker85 I was actually sticking up for the GRE with the comments of ‘how inefficient it is’. IMO 1440 high settings is where both of the cards belong. Doubtful either card has issues running those setting for 3+ years
@Nickinatorz
@Nickinatorz Месяц назад
Got the green light from the wife to get a gpu upgrade (so she can use my old one haha), we set a budget for 600 bucks and this one caught my eye. Would it be a logical step to upgrade from a RTX3070 to the RX 7900 GRE? Or would you recommend a RTX4070 Super?
@Wutwut1n1
@Wutwut1n1 3 месяца назад
24:00 interesting, so going from 12 to 16GB VRAM might be significant for RT regardless of AMD vs Nvidia
@F1neW1ne
@F1neW1ne 5 месяцев назад
Thanks for the video! Loving the battle for the midrange cards now... Finally getting interresting and affordable-ish for PC gamers.
@Ladioz
@Ladioz 5 месяцев назад
Why is the 4070 so expensive? The 7700XT is almost 100$ cheaper btw
@nicane-9966
@nicane-9966 5 месяцев назад
Going to wait for the next gpu comparision. Btw wich 4070 super do you have?. Its a founder?.
@CosmicMatt92
@CosmicMatt92 21 день назад
Seeing the 4070 already running out of Vram for Ratchet and Clank at 1440p is a huge worry. I have a feeling that 12gb is not going to age well at all in the next year or so. Nvidia has to make 16gb the minimum from here otherwise consumers aren't going to have a bar of it. The greed needs to stop.
@bestofmusicchannel
@bestofmusicchannel 5 месяцев назад
Did anyone else notice that 7900 GRE uses almost 100W or more than 4070 to be equal or win in some games by a small margin ! Thats great from fps to price ration perspective sure but when 7900 goes even above 300W for that to be achieved when 4700 almost never get more than 200, theres a huge gap there needs to be mentioned.
@JesManVP
@JesManVP 2 месяца назад
It because of nvdias smaller note it makes since
@ayrtonarias6803
@ayrtonarias6803 5 месяцев назад
this card would look good at 350$
@Sherudons
@Sherudons 5 месяцев назад
Every other week I go I will get a 7800xt this month and then another contender pops up making me go, maybe I will wait a month, hold strong my little 2070S, still, I might be holding out hope since out market tends on the side of, "do you want to be gouged, or out of stock".
@jamieeddolls5605
@jamieeddolls5605 3 месяца назад
That's a never ending cycle as a GPU buyer. I was just about to buy a red devil 6950xt tomorrow (really good prices on the used market btw) after thinking it through for a week. Just found out it doesn't support anti lag+ for fps shooters, now im set back a week lol
@leonthesleepy
@leonthesleepy 2 месяца назад
Alan Wake 2 is probably an edge case tbh. It's such an insanely heavy game to run (even on Nvidia hardware)
@PeteTheL337
@PeteTheL337 5 месяцев назад
you can always turn on FG in the AMD settings menu even if the game doesn't have a toggle for it. So you can have FG in games like Cyberpunk on AMD hardware.
@hinchlikescake7592
@hinchlikescake7592 5 месяцев назад
Would be interesting to see a 4070 Super vs the 7900 GRE in a head to head. In Europe and the UK both are quite comparable in pricing.
@marlonkruger8240
@marlonkruger8240 5 месяцев назад
It would be very cool to see Helldivers 2 in your tests. Lots of people playing it, so I think it would be very interesting to see!
@TheBoltcranck
@TheBoltcranck 5 месяцев назад
Hi Daniel and nice work on this video.
@migreLoL
@migreLoL 5 месяцев назад
What do you guys think this 7900 GRE will compete with 6950 XT? Right now I'm seeing the 6950 XT used in second hand markets for way less money and I don't know if its worth to buy a new 7900 GRE
@eliceomartinezmejias867
@eliceomartinezmejias867 5 месяцев назад
Hey Daniel. Did u test Ratchet & Clank on a 4060ti 16gb? I am really curious if the Vram allegation could be true. Either against the 4070 or the 7900GRE or even the 7800XT. Please!!!!!!🙏. Greetings.
@Yahtzee9820
@Yahtzee9820 5 месяцев назад
I wonder if the issue is purely vram or if it's the memory bandwidth. I've noticed plenty of issues with my 4070 super in Ratchet & Clank and Far Cry 6 at 4K. And I'm seeing that the vram is getting nearly maxed out. At least when it comes to allocation. It would be interesting to see the 4070 super compare to the 3080 TI. Since the 4070 super should be a little bit more powerful, but the 3080 TI has a higher memory bandwidth and they're both 12 GB cards.
@tadsnyder2756
@tadsnyder2756 5 месяцев назад
Great video Daniel and think this is a good upgrade path for the 6800xt finally
@Summanis
@Summanis 5 месяцев назад
FSR3 is out in Remnant 2 and IMO it looks pretty good. I'd bet your next video is gonna be about that.
@WT83
@WT83 5 месяцев назад
Nice vid. I was surprised at the RT performance. If there was something like this that was comparable to a 4080 with RT, I would have strongly considered buying that over an Nvidia GPU.
@Pbenter
@Pbenter 5 месяцев назад
I like to imagine Daniel cornering his work colleagues in the school break room and reciting this info verbatim.
@jimmygoforth1521
@jimmygoforth1521 Месяц назад
i received two dead rx6800 from bestbuy so forced myself to buy a 4070 even though i love amd, and now im questioning getting the GRE as its the same price
@JustDuck
@JustDuck 5 месяцев назад
Great reviews as always. Could you include MS Flight Simulator in your game test in the future? That would be awesome.
@Kage0No0Tenshi
@Kage0No0Tenshi 5 месяцев назад
In Sweden 7900 gre and rtx 4070super priced same both good vs 7800xt/4070
@MendozaZaurio
@MendozaZaurio 5 месяцев назад
The Unique problem that I SEE in LATAM Even 7900 xt cost almost the doble price That the original 4070, I hope this helps to nvidia to improve their future gpus because amd now is having a good performance with raytracing 👀
@MrDs7777
@MrDs7777 5 месяцев назад
That power consumption. Hope you have cheap electricity.
@HappyHubris
@HappyHubris 5 месяцев назад
As someone with a 7900XTX, those AMD drivers and weak features just mar your experience. Driver crashes, FSR2 artifacts, weak support for frame generation, etc. AMD needs to work on its software this generation.
@noset6434
@noset6434 5 месяцев назад
The 7900 gre is more than a 100 euros more expensive than the 4070
@miseethi
@miseethi 5 месяцев назад
not in Europe: the cheapest 4070 and the cheapest 7900GRE cost the same: € 588,- inkl. VAT
@cocobos
@cocobos 5 месяцев назад
IMO, RTX 4070 still wins because of a lot lower power used.
@otakuchan3173
@otakuchan3173 5 месяцев назад
lower power but less vram
@Tech-Neekz
@Tech-Neekz 5 месяцев назад
Who cares. 100w running 24 hours for 365 days would be like $100 a year. For pc use and gaming you'd save what? $10 a year?
@SmolderingFire
@SmolderingFire 5 месяцев назад
power doesn't matter if have cheap electricity bill
@TheGreektrojan
@TheGreektrojan 5 месяцев назад
@@Tech-Neekz Its also less heat produced in the warmer months. Its a small factor but definitely an advantage. And the 4070 is technically slightly cheaper. Still most people would say AMD is a better value here though.
@xmuromezx
@xmuromezx 5 месяцев назад
​@@Tech-Neekz100 Watt difference for 24h for 356days is in Germany actually exactly 394,20€ in my city. 0,45€ KW/h.. Those are the so called 10$
@philips2999
@philips2999 5 месяцев назад
Hello, Daniel! IMHO it is not right to show on benchmarks results with DLSS FG and not at least mention that the AMD FG can be already used for any DLSS game that have FG. I understand that it is not official feature but considering the fact that FG from AMD became opensource, in the benchmarks it should be mentioned that FG from AMD is available on games like Cyberpunk. If you read that, I really appreciate, thank you for your great job!
@Edgrot
@Edgrot 5 месяцев назад
You used to use this game in your benchmarks, had a guy running with like a rocketlauncher thing past a big red crystal like thing coming out of the ground, what game was that? also a 4070 is on 192 bit, to get 256 bit you have to scale up to the 4070 ti super for 700.
@evilvash0
@evilvash0 5 месяцев назад
sitting here bored watching these videos of cards I don't care about waiting for the next Gen Cards from AMD, Ngreedia, and Intel which i'm more excited for next year :( edit: mainly w/e AMD and Intel is showing off to me Nvidia peaked a ways back and now are just greedy and people are willing to keep feeding them their big plate of greed but anyway hope everyone is enjoying the cards thats been out for soon 2 years rip.
@Wutwut1n1
@Wutwut1n1 3 месяца назад
Great choices for game comparisons 👍
@Not-Einstein-61
@Not-Einstein-61 5 месяцев назад
Hi Owen, thats what I have been saying for some time now, AMD has to target Nvidias RT performance on their GPUs. As AMD match on RT, and we know their performances is lower in RT, the result will be a RX card with about 30% above Nvidias in native resolution. Then, buyers will turn their heads other than only think in Nvidia for their graphic cards. As RT is becoming more and more a reality, other than just a show off, like in the begining, I feel that that is why, Nvidia cards, blew away the competition.
@ViperBenchmarks
@ViperBenchmarks 5 месяцев назад
compare 2080s/ti and rx7600/xt in RT pls
@gaav87
@gaav87 5 месяцев назад
Would be cool if you could test 7900GRE after amd fixes overclocking bug. How much the memory OC makes the difference.
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