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Best Actress 1952, Part 3: Joan Crawford and Bette Davis 

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This is a review of Joan Crawford's Oscar-nominated performance in "Sudden Fear" and Bette Davis's Oscar-nominated performance in "The Star".
You can find the reviews of the other Best Actress nominees of 1952 here: • Review 1952
Ressources:
"The Lonely Life" by Bette Davis
"Dark Victory: The Life of Bette Davis" by Ed Sikov
"A Portrait of Joan" by Joan Crawford
"Joan Crawford" by Bob Thomas

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@HB-bl5mn
@HB-bl5mn Год назад
It is chilling how Natalie Wood makes remarks about being thrown into the ocean, while Wagner stands next to her.
@jaengen
@jaengen 9 месяцев назад
That’s when he got the idea and obviously it took hold.
@jhemvech
@jhemvech Год назад
I think Crawford should have gotten more credit as an actress with good material she can create a lot of depth in her character.
@poetcomic1
@poetcomic1 3 месяца назад
There is a scene in Sudden Fear in which Joan is in the midst of her plot to kill her adulterous husband and get his girlfriend hanged. Sneaking into the girlfriend's apartment she catches a glimpse of herself holding a revolver and REALIZES what she is about to do and a half dozen expressions from disbelief, to horror, to self disgust show clearly on her face and we know she cannot do it. THAT is Joan acting. I find it far superior to Bette in Baby Jane looking at her aging face in the mirror and crying out in horror.
@SWSimpson
@SWSimpson Год назад
After Bette Davis' daughter wrote a book about Bette, Bette's attitude toward Joan changed. Bette made it a point to say how professional Joan was, always on time/early, and she always knew her lines. There was a scene Bette watched Joan film where Joan is in a Taxi and rides up this long driveway to the front of the house, gets out, looks at the house and reacts. Bette couldn't believe Joan did it in one take. How did she do it? Bette was stunned.' Bette also said that Joan had a terrible childhood and was self-made woman, and she worked hard to get where she did and Bette said he would never take that away from Joan. So, Bette found a respect for Joan, even an admiration of sorts, although they were two very different actresses with different styles. One thing they both did, was know not just the other actors, but they knew the film crews as well and could hang out and play cards with them. There wasn't so much a rivalry as there were hurt feelings perhaps. One reason could be that Bette Davis fell in love with actor Franchot Tone while making a movie together, but Franchot Tone fell in love with Joan and married Joan. Bette was heartbroken. So, it was more Bette hated Joan. Joan brought Baby Jane to Bette Davis, Joan admired Bette as an actress and wanted to work with her and made it happen.
@FritzandtheOscars
@FritzandtheOscars Год назад
Thanks for your comment!
@user-kf8wb2cq4f
@user-kf8wb2cq4f Год назад
BETTE'S daughter, BD Hyman, wrote a horrible book about her mother, making BETTE sound like an abusive, Egomaniacal Nut.....Similar to what Crawford's daughter did.
@ingmarvandesande3235
@ingmarvandesande3235 7 месяцев назад
Maybe they were more alike than they would both like to admit.
@MichaelChong100
@MichaelChong100 4 месяца назад
Actually, she already praise Joan Crawford long before her daughter even released the book (she makes bad remarks about Joan when she’s in her last years of her life, trying to get her best shot at getting roles). She even defended Joan when the infamous Mommy Dearest came out. They may not be friends but certainly they respect each other as a co-worker.
@stardusth2o
@stardusth2o 3 месяца назад
19:22 what a touching line delivery. Joan's ability to convey so much emotion with just a look is second to none.
@randyacuna5643
@randyacuna5643 Год назад
Easily amongst the best 2 greatest actresses to ever grace the screen. Both command attention regardless of film.
@FritzandtheOscars
@FritzandtheOscars Год назад
100 percent
@Cubertfilm
@Cubertfilm 11 месяцев назад
This essay is AMAZING! I taught a class on Bette Davis at Facets - am a huge fan. I've studied Joan as if I taught a class on her! And I was riveted with every word - I love these ladies but I am TRANSFIXED with FRITZ - his knowledge and delivery is captivating.
@FritzandtheOscars
@FritzandtheOscars 11 месяцев назад
Oh, thank you so much for these kind words, that's very encouraging!
@user-kf8wb2cq4f
@user-kf8wb2cq4f Год назад
I Love them Both. Crawford..was often luminous in her films' close-ups---like photographing Thought. She could be transfixing.
@FritzandtheOscars
@FritzandtheOscars Год назад
A wonderful way to describe her
@jasbegs1258
@jasbegs1258 Год назад
Agree with this - Joan was far better in Sudden Fear than Bette was in Star.
@jamesa.romano8500
@jamesa.romano8500 Год назад
I did enjoy parts of The Star, but it kind of felt like it ends where it should be beginning. I was bracing myself for a huge climax on the first watch and it never came. Sudden Fear, meanwhile, might be one of the best films in Crawford's career ranking somewhere in the Top 5-10 and it remains suspenseful and thrilling even on a re-watch. If Shirley Booth was out of the equation and it was just between Bette and Joan for the Oscar I'd vote Sudden Fear no contest.
@poetcomic1
@poetcomic1 Год назад
I am a BIG Bette fan and really HATED The Star. Sudden Fear has a scene near the end in which Joan catches a glimpse of herself in the mirror holding the gun preparing to kill her faithless husband. That moment, using just her eyes and her face she conveys a half dozen distinct emotions of incredulity, confusion, self disgust and more - if you watch it you will never for a moment doubt Joan's great talent.
@jamesa.romano8500
@jamesa.romano8500 11 месяцев назад
@@poetcomic1 It's just so easy to underestimate Joan's skill as an actress and the same nonverbal communicative skill she had that made Sudden Fear so epic is also what leant Whatever Happened to Baby Jane a great sense of balance. If it was just Bette hamming it up for 120 minutes I don't think it would have been the hit it was but Joan's eye movements and long pauses communicates a real sense of dread and fear for her life that Bette alone wouldn't have been able to impart
@poetcomic1
@poetcomic1 11 месяцев назад
@@jamesa.romano8500 We see her THINK - seldom do we have directors savvy enough to show a character THINKING. When Joan lies in bed eyes open for 12 hours or whatever with that weird little clock ticking.... she is a playwright and all night she is 'writing' her revenge in every detail.
@barrylangford3276
@barrylangford3276 Год назад
Thanks for yet another wildly entertaining and informative video. By coincidence l watched Sudden Fear last night and was struck again by the way Crawford carried the film and overcame the dodgier plot points by dent of her sheer star power. While l find Bette Davis superb in so many of her films it is shocking how poor The Star is in every respect. What an incredible comedown only a couple of years after the magnificent All About Eve. I'm so glad Bette and Joan were able to score their later triumph with What Ever Happened to Baby Jane - two brilliant performances, BOTH of which deserved Academy Award nominations.
@FritzandtheOscars
@FritzandtheOscars Год назад
Glad you enjoyed it
@Pattiepies55
@Pattiepies55 Год назад
I adore Bette Davis. She was such a great actress.
@kandorstevenson
@kandorstevenson 5 месяцев назад
I truly enjoy how you analyze all performances on your videos. I find them very interesting⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐
@FritzandtheOscars
@FritzandtheOscars 5 месяцев назад
Thanks a lot!
@jackiekidwell5004
@jackiekidwell5004 Год назад
I really, really agree with the assessments of Joan and Bette's films by the video and commenters views as well: Bette Davis did great films but The Star wasn't one of them, on the other hand, Joan's roles in Queen Bee and Sudden Fear had a lot of psychology involved with the characters and Joan understood the roles splendidly and gave knockout performances. But as one commenter on The Star said: the movie ended where it should have begun, spot on description !!
@rosemaryfranzese317
@rosemaryfranzese317 29 дней назад
I have to say that Sudden Fear is one of my favourite films, it may not be perfect but Joan Crawford is wonderful in it and as you said, there is great chemistry between Joan and Jack Palance. I still feel that Joan Crawford is underrated as an actress. You are so right, directors like William Wyler did know how to reign in Bette’s performance when necessary. I love your research that suggested Bette based Margaret Lawrence on Joan Crawford and the irony that Joan outclassed Bette in their nominated films that year. Joan was of course an ultimate star but that didn’t mean that she didn’t take being actress seriously. Of course Bette was a supreme talent and one of her best performances in the 1950s was in The Catered Affair where she plays the wife of a taxi driver ( Ernest Borgnine) who is determined to give their daughter (Debbie Reynolds) a big, expensive wedding even though she just wants a simple one. In this film Bette Davis BECOMES a taxi driver’s wife, it’s a fine performance and it is also a delightful and entertaining film.
@fob1xxl
@fob1xxl Год назад
One of the BEST in depth reviews of Crawford and Davis' 1952 nominations. The ONLY time they were against eachother for an Oscar. In my book, CRAWFORD gave a better performance. In fact I thought she was better than Shirley Booth that not only was the favorite, but the actual winner that year. Bette's performance in "Whatever Happened To Baby Jane" should have garnered her the Oscar. It was amazing !
@richardmcleod1930
@richardmcleod1930 Год назад
With the magnificent performances Joan Crawford has given the public all over the World for many years during her life and for years to come, we have a delightful Actress to enjoy for all our lives.
@davidstevenson404
@davidstevenson404 3 месяца назад
I like Faye's depiction of HER lol
@davidstevenson404
@davidstevenson404 3 месяца назад
Of course, Joan WAS a Great Actress--I saw Sudden Fear and was VERY impressed.
@jimanderson5883
@jimanderson5883 Год назад
If Joan had won over Bette that year, Bette would have ripped out every seat in the theatre.
@robertdoherty2001
@robertdoherty2001 Год назад
‘’The Star’’ had its problems - mainly casting Sterling Hayden and an abrupt, weak ending - but it’s fun watching Bette portray someone nearing a nervous breakdown, hiding from reality and even engaging in kleptomania. Not her best, but worth a watch - even if only for the Cadillac she impulsively buys.
@FritzandtheOscars
@FritzandtheOscars Год назад
Oh, it's certainly a guilty pleasure and totally watchable
@derrionbrown3923
@derrionbrown3923 Год назад
This is brilliant. I’ve rewatched this at least three times so far. Keep it up 🔥💯🎉
@FritzandtheOscars
@FritzandtheOscars Год назад
Thank you so much! This is very encouraging!
@fred3467
@fred3467 Год назад
Very astute observation of Bette Davis' performance in The Star!
@truthseekeralways7050
@truthseekeralways7050 Год назад
Awesome Video 💯 GOD Bless You Fritz👍🏼
@ingmarvandesande3235
@ingmarvandesande3235 7 месяцев назад
Again you gave us a splendid review! Don't ever stop doing this. You are a master in it!
@FritzandtheOscars
@FritzandtheOscars 7 месяцев назад
Thank you so much! 💓
@ravijakhmola2821
@ravijakhmola2821 Год назад
Bette Davis was undoubtedly one of the greatest actresses of all times. Jezebel, All About Eve and The Dark Victory are some of her finest movies. We can’t think any other actress doing those roles. Whatever Happened to Baby Jane is remembered only for the lead role played by Bette. Her feud with Joan Crawford and missing Oscar for that role are other reasons for popularity of Baby Jane.
@davidstevenson404
@davidstevenson404 3 месяца назад
Jane Fonda was considered the "Bette Devis of her time" hmmm if Bette WAS Overated--hmmm, no compliment!
@shannenspence3318
@shannenspence3318 Год назад
Joan and Bette: Aries women. Bette is my favorite,though. I connect to Bette......lol...I just love her. April Aries...LOL...
@mikugutz
@mikugutz Год назад
my god do i love your channel
@MariaFernanda-dr7pv
@MariaFernanda-dr7pv 24 дня назад
I love Joan
@williamleadbitter4037
@williamleadbitter4037 Год назад
Do you think you could do something on Glenda Jackson and her Oscar wins? I've always thought she was fascinating and something of an Oscar anomaly.
@FritzandtheOscars
@FritzandtheOscars Год назад
I definitely want to do a year with her at some point
@williamleadbitter4037
@williamleadbitter4037 Год назад
@@FritzandtheOscars thank you, Klaus. I think your perspective would be enlightening. By the way, your channel is awesome and I wish you every success with it.
@FritzandtheOscars
@FritzandtheOscars Год назад
@@williamleadbitter4037 Thanks so much! :)
@davidstevenson404
@davidstevenson404 3 месяца назад
@@williamleadbitter4037 Agreed!
@velvethardcastle28
@velvethardcastle28 Год назад
All hail the Queen, Joan Crawford!
@elviswelling
@elviswelling Год назад
Great job!
@FritzandtheOscars
@FritzandtheOscars Год назад
Thank you so much!
@curt5361
@curt5361 Год назад
The Star is a turkey and Bette was soooo bad in it. Sudden Fear is a classic and Miss Crawford delivered a fierce Oscar worthy performance. Love them both and I feel Bette had more rang as an actress. But, Bette was a trained stage actress whereas Miss Crawford was not a professionally trained actress and pretty much trained herself on set and studied very hard. IMO Miss Crawford had more presence on the silver screen. "Humoresque" is a great example. The close ups of Crawford give you chills. She's so stunning and again delivered an Oscar worthy performance.
@ThisGuy65842
@ThisGuy65842 Год назад
JC was a great movie star BD was a great actress .. BD portrayed JC in TheStar and NAILED IT!! Thus an Academy Nomination...BD was nommed 11 times, JC 3....BD is largely considered the Better Actress
@williamweis7153
@williamweis7153 Год назад
Sometimes but not always and this is a classic example
@Garsons-oq4lh
@Garsons-oq4lh 7 месяцев назад
​@@ThisGuy65842 How is Joan not a great actress? With Bette always with the mannerisms and clipped speech. No way Bette was playing Joan. Bette was old and thick looking whereas Joan was not. Bette was nominated 10 times.
@ThisGuy65842
@ThisGuy65842 7 месяцев назад
@@Garsons-oq4lh Just my little humble opinion l o l... Betty was nominated 11 times however, one was a last minute write in. So many don't consider that to be a nomination.. I do wish that they had made hush-hush, sweet Charlotte together because they were both excellent. In baby jane... Also in my little humble opinion that was Betty. Davis's best work .. I love anne bancroft but I do believe that betty's performance was actually better..
@kjgammon1658
@kjgammon1658 5 месяцев назад
​@ThisGuy65842 Yeah largely because of Studio backing, not because of talent. Totally overrated and overacting!
@lettylynton1932
@lettylynton1932 Год назад
This is a great review of both films and their respective stars. I couldn't agree with you more- Bette's performance was poor considering what she is capable of. Joan shone in Sudden Fear- her best performance from her 1950s period!
@JosephAddeo
@JosephAddeo Год назад
Great assessment of these two performances. SUDDEN FEAR is one of Crawford’s best while THE STAR is one of Davis’s worst.
@FritzandtheOscars
@FritzandtheOscars Год назад
that sums it up quite well
@The-Malibu-Wolf
@The-Malibu-Wolf 10 месяцев назад
For me it was "Bunny O'Hare". And it was "Trog" when it comes to Joan.
@wavesofwoodenlegs
@wavesofwoodenlegs Год назад
Great video Fritz! Your views about Joan's and Bette's performances in those films are on point! I can't wait to see what you feel about Julie Harris and Shirley Booth!
@call2872
@call2872 Год назад
Although they did not win, I felt that Joan's performance was stronger than Bette. Bette's performance in The Star felt like a parody of All About Eve.
@barrylangford3276
@barrylangford3276 Год назад
And though it isn't nice to comment on appearances, in this 1952 film Bette looks a good ten years older than she did in 1950's All About Eve - yet her character in The Star is very concerned about remaining youthful!
@nic4319
@nic4319 Год назад
Bette's acting style, seems dated and over the top when you watch her movies .While Joan's seems very modern and believable.
@joshnosher3536
@joshnosher3536 Год назад
@@nic4319 Absolutely agree. This is also why Davis is so easy to lampoon/parody, while Joan is an infinitely more complex creature to pin down.
@davidstevenson404
@davidstevenson404 3 месяца назад
She was portraying someone Older, here...
@davidstevenson404
@davidstevenson404 3 месяца назад
@@joshnosher3536 Faye Dunaway was Joan Crawford's favorite actress of Faye's time. Sad that Mommie Dearest was sadly to come.
@platocause7080
@platocause7080 Год назад
Excellent video essay Fritz. Now I need to re-watch Sudden Fear. Think I'll give The Star a miss...
@WilAdams
@WilAdams Год назад
Wow, he really missed the nuance of Miss Davis' performance in The Star. She KNEW she was playing Bette Davis in the film and she ran with it. Never forget she was a Star, a fading star to be sure, and throughout her career and even after she NEVER saw herself as anything but a STAR. She did not see herself as a 'fading star' even when the whole world did, and she took roles after EVE that played on her reputation as a Star. Her turn in Whatever Happened to Baby Jane, could have been Miss Davis playing a grown up Shirley Temple--that's the way the book reads--but she could not do that. She was playing Bette Davis as SHE saw herself IF she had been a child star. In Hush Hush Sweet Charlotte Miss Davis does not play Charlotte, but rather Jezebel as a faded Southern Lady who had nothing in her past but tragic events. As if Jezebel had lost her lover to the Civil War and could not accept it, always waiting for him to come and get her--like in the Tanya Tucker hit song, Delta Dawn, or Miss Havisham in Dicken's novel Great Expectations.
@FritzandtheOscars
@FritzandtheOscars Год назад
well, the great thing about judging acting is that there is no correct answer. Everyone reacts differently
@williamleadbitter4037
@williamleadbitter4037 Год назад
Concerning as to whether the Joan Evans story is true; it definitely is. There is a short interview on you tube where Joan Evans discuss' it. She and her husband were married for over sixty years, I think.
@FritzandtheOscars
@FritzandtheOscars Год назад
Thanks!
@fanorama1
@fanorama1 3 месяца назад
Jack Palance is so hard and angular, he makes Joan look soft and feminine. Great pic! Excellent performances by the three leads.
@hudson5112
@hudson5112 Год назад
Crawford deserved the Oscar for Sudden Fear. The finest performance by an actress in Hollywood history in my opinion.
@FritzandtheOscars
@FritzandtheOscars Год назад
Glad you love her so much!
@jeffreysuggs2799
@jeffreysuggs2799 Год назад
In Hollywood history? Oh that's funny
@acastrohowell
@acastrohowell 11 месяцев назад
Loved these two women ❤
@thomasalbert6687
@thomasalbert6687 Год назад
I can't imagine anyone but you writes the program, but do you also handle the clips? Curious, how long on average you spend putting together a video...like this one for example. Very nice job on the clips and edits here. I once saw Bette Davis when she was going around with an hour montage from her films, then a Q & A. I think by that point she was sour on life or just couldn't wait to get her hands on a strong whiskey once the damned show was over. Imagine bristling because people in the audience (many in her age range, and it is not like we did not have to buy tickets) would talk to her in the familiar and start their question or statement using her first name...Bette (rather than Miss Davis). How many hours had some of those people spent with her at the movies and how many tickets had they bought over decades? You could see the sourness on her face. How small can you be?
@FritzandtheOscars
@FritzandtheOscars Год назад
thanks for your comment; yes, the videos are all my own, research, writing and editing :) as I only work on them with the little free time I have (besides a job, a family and everyting else), it takes quite some time for me to finish them; I think most of the time is done on research, writing is also hard for me, the editing at the end is more like a formality but it also takes time; to cover one Best Actress year, I definetely need a few months
@Seabasstien
@Seabasstien Год назад
Bette deserved at least 4 Academy Awards but The Star is not one of them. I liked Joan Crawford in Sudden Fear but would have been even more pleased with Humoresque or Possessed being her second Oscar.
@Lgevirtz
@Lgevirtz 11 месяцев назад
Unfortunately this edition is not up to Fritz's usual standards. The excessive criticism of "The Star" is way overdone and unwarranted. After all, the performance WAS nominated for an Oscar and praised by many critics. Fritz is off his game here.
@FritzandtheOscars
@FritzandtheOscars 11 месяцев назад
Well, film criticism is highly subjective, with many different opinions
@jeffreycone7504
@jeffreycone7504 5 месяцев назад
Although Bette And Joan were great actresses Bette was the better actress. I dont think Joan could have played Mildred Rogers in Of Human Bondage Or Regina in The Little Foxes.
@ge0rgeharris218
@ge0rgeharris218 Год назад
This guy needs to look at Franchot Tone Bette Davis an Joan Crawford in 1937 and how this feud began with the movie Dangerous!! I'm not going to give the answer let the narrator use his own Faculties if he has them!!
@FritzandtheOscars
@FritzandtheOscars Год назад
this video focused on 1952, it's not about the overall feud between them; I know very well what you mean (I do have some abilities to research), maybe I will cover it at some point,
@barrylangford3276
@barrylangford3276 Год назад
Ge0rgeHarris - That's rather a rude message, don't you think? In any case, nobody will ever know if the alleged affair between Bette and Franchot Tone (then Joan's boyfriend) ever happened, and why does it matter when all three are dead? Why not just enjoy the work of stars of yesteryear without endlessly speculating on their supposed feuds?
@ge0rgeharris218
@ge0rgeharris218 Год назад
Fair enough, I was probably to harsh!!
@davidstevenson404
@davidstevenson404 3 месяца назад
@@ge0rgeharris218 yeaas
@joshnosher3536
@joshnosher3536 Год назад
Tha Star is proof positive that Bette Davis had become entirely too confortable allowing her own hype, cliched mannerisms and scenery-chewing self-parody to do the heavy lifting for her on camera, and, predictably enough, it shows. The fact that lazy characterization received a Best Actress Oscar nod is quite simply baffling. Again, 100% hype, 0 substance.
@SWSimpson
@SWSimpson Год назад
Bette and Joan were never up for an Oscar at the same time. Bette was nominated for Baby Jane, Joan was not. Joan offered to accept the award on behalf of whoever won and wasn't to be there. Anne Bancroft won for The Miracle Worker and was on Broadway at the time and unable to attend, so Joan accepted the Oscar on her behalf. There was no feud between Joan and Marilyn Monroe. Marilyn liked Joan because Joan adopted children and Marilyn had been in an orphanage. Marilyn made a scene coming into a restaurant where Joan was eating, Jerry Lewis got up on a table and howled like a wolf at her, and Joan made a snide comment about it, then first thing in the morning Joan sent Marilyn a bouquet of flowers with a note that read: "Marilyn, I still love you. Joan" Where are you getting all of your twisted "facts" - you seem to be in the area but then miss the mark. Now, someone will watch this and think these stories are true when you are flubbing them.
@FritzandtheOscars
@FritzandtheOscars Год назад
Mmh, hard to argue about facts when your first sentence is "Bette and Joan were never up for an Oscar at the same time" - which they were, in the very video you commented on
@FritzandtheOscars
@FritzandtheOscars Год назад
Also, Joan made some very public statements against Marilyn in the 50s and the beginning of the 60s. Maybe "feud" is exaggerated but she did criticise her
@ingmarvandesande3235
@ingmarvandesande3235 7 месяцев назад
@@FritzandtheOscarsHear hear!!
@Garsons-oq4lh
@Garsons-oq4lh Год назад
Great video. Barbara Stanwyck should've been nominated for Clash by Night instead of Bette for the awful The Star. But what a great side by side comparison at 2:40 with Joan a total stunner at 57 and Bette at a blah at 55.
@davidstevenson404
@davidstevenson404 3 месяца назад
Bette was only about 45 for the Star--oh you mean....
@Blumoon_vii
@Blumoon_vii 2 дня назад
Joan shouldve won that oscar what she did in that movie has been studied by many actresses ... i didnt like bette acting in the star she didnt put all her acting choops and who ever won that oscar her performance isnt memorable
@Kevin-rg3yc
@Kevin-rg3yc Год назад
Your point of Bette Davis in the star is exactly why I felt bette wouldn’t get the title as the best actress from the golden age of Hollywood era as it goes largely to Katharine Hepburn mainly bc after the 1940s Bette kept picking horrible movies with notable expectations (all about eve, whatever happened to baby Jane, the nanny) while turning down great roles/movies (a streetcar named desire, the African queen, who’s afraid of Virgina wolf, come back little Sheba) and not making a consistent return to theatre similar tallulah Bankhead she got stuck in being a caricature of her persona and past iconic roles
@wilfordfraser6347
@wilfordfraser6347 Год назад
Never knew Bette was considered for Whos Afraid of Virginia Woolf. She would have been phenomenal.
@barrylangford3276
@barrylangford3276 Год назад
@@wilfordfraser6347 Actually Bette was not offered Martha in Who's Afraid of Virginia Woolf. She very much wanted the role and campaigned to get it, but was passed over for Elizabeth Taylor. There is an interview on RU-vid where she says she would have been the right age for Martha and that Taylor was too young, but then says she herself got a lot of film roles that had been played on stage by older actresses so she should stop complaining!
@wilfordfraser6347
@wilfordfraser6347 Год назад
@@barrylangford3276 Yes I vaguely remember reading that once.
@kjgammon1658
@kjgammon1658 Год назад
@@wilfordfraser6347 She wasn't considered for it. She begged For It and campaigned for it ,but Edward Albee turned her down. More importantly, by that time she wasn't "box office."
@Kevin-rg3yc
@Kevin-rg3yc Год назад
@@barrylangford3276 ohh thank you for the correction I think i read it on IMBD that she was offered the role but turned it down for when the post-baby Jane roles
@joshuavandyne7334
@joshuavandyne7334 8 месяцев назад
Fritz. I thoroughly love your channel, these videos, and your well researched ,intelligent analysis of a subject that you age clearly passionate as well as knowledgeable, however I think it’s RICH that you say this performance of Bette Davis is entertaining, but lazy- played on one note with the stylized , sleepwalking performance lacking any characterization, brimming with ego and camp…. Considering you worship K Hepburn who literally did EXACTLY THIS in every film from 1968 until OUTBLLL death….. i suppose we all have blind spots when t comes to our personal DIVA worship..lol😊 🥂
@FritzandtheOscars
@FritzandtheOscars 8 месяцев назад
I am not the biggest fan of Kate's work after The Lion in Winter. She was wonderful in Love Among the Ruins and On Golden Pond but yes, a lot of the performance later in the 80s and 90s are rather forgettable Thanks a lot for your kind words! :)
@windstorm1000
@windstorm1000 2 месяца назад
I disagree with you Fritz. The character is almost a parady, she cant stop being a star. . Shes become a caracature. How else could Davis play it but over the top? There ARE women like this in hwood-- like Joan Crawford!!! Bette deserved her is iscar nomination!
@orpheus9037
@orpheus9037 Год назад
I actually tried to sit through "The Star" once. I found parts of it interesting, but overall, abysmal. It is an overblown embarrassment to Davis, lacking all and any subtlety and probably the worst film of her career.
@JohnnyGNV
@JohnnyGNV Год назад
I wouldn't say it's the 'worst' film of her career for there are other movies that she was in such as "where love has gone" and even some of her early movies that (at her own admission) were pretty dreadful. But, no, unfortunately The Star doesn't quite work, there's no real 'flow' to it.
@orpheus9037
@orpheus9037 Год назад
@@JohnnyGNV Honestly, I think a lesser actress would have had more fun with it (along with the audience). As is, "The Star" smacks of desperation, most emphatically at the meta level - stripping Davis of her dignity. And she didn't need to do that. Davis's biggest mistake was failing to recognize "The Star" was an overblown piece of camp. Frankly, she should have played it as a comedy, winking at the audience all the way. In this respect, Crawford was smarter - she was playing roles in shit movies at the end of her career - and at least she knew they were shit. But Davis is balls-to-the-wall in "The Star" and never seemed to have a clue ... until, that is, she got to Baby Jane. Then, thank god, she understood - and actually seemed to be enjoying herself. And made a pretty good movie, to boot.
@davidstevenson404
@davidstevenson404 3 месяца назад
​@@orpheus9037 "Balls-to-the-Wall??"
@rmp9417
@rmp9417 Месяц назад
No nonsense woman even OVER FIFTY
@wmmricvawmmricva8917
@wmmricvawmmricva8917 Год назад
Sterling Hayden is there as a hunk, a body. A shorter guy would've matched better w Bette.
@kjgammon1658
@kjgammon1658 Год назад
Sterling Hayden was perfect for that role! He portrayed the part of a Young not very talented actor that was a hunk and not really headed anywhere in his career , didn't go far.. then he got out of the movies and into a different business. She had once helped him in the movies early in his career, then he turned around and helped her when she was on the skids. Makes perfect sense as far as the storyline.
@danieltoro8988
@danieltoro8988 Год назад
Joan was Better than Bette and the Winner Shirley booth
@MrYonexguy63
@MrYonexguy63 Год назад
The Star is a mostly terrible film. Davis had a few nice moments but its the beginning of the skid.
@allanmiller4972
@allanmiller4972 Год назад
@ 17:34... the narrator's hyper-analysis of these 2 fine actresses respective performances in '52, in conjunction w/ his haughty personality & most irritating stacatto, heavily accented voice...makes watching this video 2 its end @ 40:09 UNtenable! MUCH rather watch the actual films, 'The Star' & 'Sudden Fear' &, as an adult, draw my OWN conclusions...!
@FritzandtheOscars
@FritzandtheOscars Год назад
Thanks for watching! I hope you check out my other videos, too!
@davidstevenson404
@davidstevenson404 3 месяца назад
My Goodness, how RUUDE
@wmmricvawmmricva8917
@wmmricvawmmricva8917 Год назад
Bette's hair and makeup is dreadful in Star. I'm surprised she was nominated. A cheap film similar to a TV movie of a later date.
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