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@PredictableDesigns 11 месяцев назад

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@charlesmayberry2825 2 месяца назад

When this started I immediately went "Kicad does everything I need" it's a little unintuitive at times, but for 99% of projects it does the trick.

@moeswartz888 Год назад

Easyeda is pretty cool too, however it doesn't export 3d models last time I've checked.

@PredictableDesigns Год назад

Thanks Moe!

@sunnysurwade464 10 месяцев назад

It's pro version export 3D models as well

@YuzuRyougi 9 месяцев назад

It does now, even step models

@imtheone1484 6 месяцев назад

moye moye

@tuttuti123 6 месяцев назад

@@YuzuRyougi wait on the free versions? Man I needed that during my years in university lol.

@hedgie9357 Год назад

Oh man, if Altium is "overkill for most projects" what can you say then about Cadence Allegro or Mentor Graphics Xpedition? Not all people are designing arduino-like stuff only 😅

@canadio 4 месяца назад

Full Cadence and Mentor packages are $100k Altium is under $10k

@1987aichi 4 месяца назад

Don't forget Zuken ;)

@erikyoung5139 8 дней назад

Enterprise grade software my man.

@ffeeejj Год назад

I've been using PCAD 2004 a little bit on my classes at the university. Absolutely horrible 😂. Now switched from Altium to Kicad)

@micah2936 Год назад

I started with fusion 360 for PCB design like 3 years ago. I just downloaded Kicad like a week ago to try out. I am pretty used to fusion 360 software and it’s very nice to use when you know how to use it

@elmergloo3259 10 месяцев назад

I’ve used Fusion 360 for years and it is awesome. Eagle was frustrating to use I’ll admit, but as soon as they incorporated it into Fusion a few years ago it’s been great. Being able to make PCBs and design enclosures with the same software is awesome. It’s also great when you have to make small adjustments and everything syncs and updates the changes from electrical to mechanical design. Plus Fusion is free for hobbyists and great for businesses when you’re ready for the paid features. I did a trial on Altium. I don’t care how good it is, it is too expensive.

@max_eley Год назад

Lool, man i use kicad, really good, does the job, but we have eagle too, comes with fusion, i tried to use it and in a matter of minutes i was going insane 😂😂😂, such an annoying software to use, and im not even an angry person 💀

@canadio 4 месяца назад

ALTIUM!!! I have used Allego, Mentor, Eagle, KiCad, and PCAD. My humble opinion. I design PCBs every day.

@sindhubv4013 3 месяца назад

Hi canadio. I would like to connect with you on LinkedIn.. Could you please share your profile link. Would like to get educated about the PCB design industry

@gustavrsh Месяц назад

Yeah I love Altium as well. It's very powerful and intuitive once you get the hang of it

@rakshitpatel9664 Год назад

Experience says everything,,,, Thanks sir

@shashankks1962 21 день назад

Kicad has reached a point where you could think of it as an industry standard cad tool. The only thing missing is IPC calculators, but if you can do the math, then you've got nothing to worry about.

@DeadCat-42 22 дня назад

I've been struggling with eagle looking for an alternative , I was relieved to hear you say it's ui is difficult.

@hopelessnerd6677 Год назад

A package that I really like is DEX. The graphics are superb, and for hobbyists that make their own PCB's, the plotter subsystem is by far the most user friendly and feature rich I've seen. It's pay software for $145, but it's frequently on sale for much less. It will import from Eagle, so you can find pre-made parts. Community support is almost nonexistent because of the smaller user base. The author is very responsive to user requests, and I have had him add features and fix bugs for me. No, I'm not paid to type this. Wish I was!

@tolkienfan1972 4 месяца назад

Thanks! Good info

@3gypt1an 11 месяцев назад

Great post .. thanks for sharing this!

@PredictableDesigns 11 месяцев назад

Glad you enjoyed it

@WrittenByMasooma 7 месяцев назад

The best part is KiCAD is available for Linux systems as well

@DMS20231 Год назад

Another option is Altium’s CircuitMaker, which I haven’t used but it looks promising. It’s supposedly build around the same engine as their paid software. I’ve been using EasyEDA and I like its integration with their parts inventory for board fabrication. I just got a batch of boards from them and it was pretty seamless. As I specified parts in my design I could quickly verify inventory and cost. I had assembled ESP32 based boards in about 10 days.

@PredictableDesigns Год назад

Yeah I've heard good things about EasyEDA but I've never tried it myself. Thanks for sharing.

@reigndrops4090 Месяц назад

YESSS. THANK YOU. My university makes us use Eagle for our courses but on the student design teams we use altium (it’s free for us since we are students) and eagle is SO BAD. It’s like nails on a chalkboard

@matthiasmartin1975 7 месяцев назад

Eagle had the benefit of KiCad not being around when it came out. It was _the_ tool to use around 2008 or so. It also had a Linux build. Today it would stand no chance against the juggernaut that KiCad has become.

@theothergameygamer 10 месяцев назад

I've been trying to use both fusion360 and standalone eagle for the past two days. It's obvious that the target customer is the average corporate drone with endless time on their hands.

@yptechtips2420 Год назад

Altium also provides a free student license.

@junayed2552 2 месяца назад

Well students don't do any complex project, need altium in low price for professional work and kicad is enough for college students

@TonyDaExpert Месяц назад

@@junayed2552yes but jobs will ask for altium so if you want an upperhand I would make use of it otherwise kicad is nice

@alkaline3mc 4 месяца назад

Some jabronie at a previous job was using some layout program from Pcb way or something that was absolutely atrocious. I wish I could remember the name of it but it was SO bad.

@pdpp2714 Год назад

Yes, its also my opinion. Kicad and Diptrace! I know Eagle and Altium. Eagle is not good, Altium is too expensive. Diptace could has nicer schematic diagrams

@davepgoncalves Месяц назад

I had a boss that asked me to evaluate a variety of PCB tools over several months - and I came to the same conclusions even in 2012. He over-ruled that with choosing Eagle because then he could do it himself which made me easier to fire.

@thedrillnetwork1069 2 месяца назад

The way I see it is, if you're a hobbyist making ESP32 boards with bad routing techniques, use KiCad which is quite decent. If you're a professional then use Altium Designer for complexil multilayer stackup impedance controlled high speed designs.

@mrechbreger Год назад

An initial Altium license for 5000$ is easily worth it the software is effective. Every design just comes out very effectively. I stopped the subscription since AD17 and I'm still happy.

@mahendirangopal3885 10 месяцев назад

Now its online??

@germanrocha5814 10 месяцев назад

How about Proteus, do you guys have any comment or experience with it?

@hanvu3343 Месяц назад

How about Proteus? Everyone in my university uses it to do projects

@ucan_hali 5 месяцев назад

Zuken Cadstar is very good. Especially the Autorouter part is very capable. It has outstanding parametric working capability. By the way, what happened to BoardMaker :)

@eross21 2 месяца назад

are there any i can use on my iPhone?. i would love to be able to design circuits while on my lunch breaks

@NamasenITN 11 месяцев назад

How does "Fusion 360 Electronics" (not Eagle!) compare to KiCad, in your experience?

@silvermica 7 месяцев назад

That last statement says a lot - (with DipTrace) you can really focus on the design and not how to use the software. I've never used DipTrace. I bought Altium in 2015 and have continued to pay the maintenance fee to this very day. Altium is really nice - but the issue I have with Altium is that the tool is VERY distracting (such as bugs & new confusing features) at times and I lose focus on the design itself. This occurs WAY more than it should.

@PredictableDesigns 7 месяцев назад

Thanks for sharing!

@noisefekt 4 месяца назад

Thanks. I will try KiCAD. Just finished making schematic in fusion 360 and it took multiple hours and when I tried to switch it to pcb, fusion 360 just says this is not possible on free version. Liike thanks for telling me now..Not sure why it is even possible to make schemarics. Well, I hope I can import eagle format files to KiCad!

@I_love_marsh_mellos 6 месяцев назад

Fusion 360 ain't that bad after you learn how to get into the pcb designer itself, that was probably the hardest part. 😅

@Factory400 6 месяцев назад

I have been using Fusion360 since 2017. Definitely frustrating at first as they moved Eagle into ecosystem. It is, however, a LOT better today and is really nice for engineers like me that have complex mechanical and electronic integration. I have designed some really complex products in F360 that would be far more clumsy in Solidworks and Altium.

@PredictableDesigns 5 месяцев назад

Thanks for sharing that feedback!

@TheWhitde 8 месяцев назад

Moving from Eagle to Easy EDA was a no-brainer. Easy EDA has a few quirks... but it's a full experience.

@amarigannoyunu587 7 месяцев назад

I didn't get either you like easy eda or eagle 😅

@TheWhitde 7 месяцев назад

I really like Easy EDA ... ok locked to JLPCB but I can live with that given the software is free and improving. @@amarigannoyunu587

@mubafaw Год назад

Thanks for the useful tip. Saved me time. So don't have to spin my wheels 😊👍

@PredictableDesigns Год назад

Glad it helped!

@bleeghboy3997 2 месяца назад

Any thoughts on Allegro/orCAD?

@ababoude 20 дней назад

Anns what about Proteus

@sunnysurwade464 10 месяцев назад

The last line is deep 😅

@SpinStar1956 5 месяцев назад

Been Diptrace user for over 10 years and I really like it. I have also used Eagle and have had same non-intuitive experience. KiCad for me was to manual but still good. Altium is really overpriced Enterprise SW but does have the very top end features if your using thing like RF transmission-lines r want your board to have the latest look--LOL! So, I do agree with your assessment

@PredictableDesigns 5 месяцев назад

Thanks for sharing!

@ThePing98 2 месяца назад

what about circuitstudio, its very similar to Altium with a low cost

@tofo2 2 месяца назад

I agree EAGLE was the worst user interface ever presented in a Windows environment. They reinvented what is a computer mouse and before interacting with an object you had to tell what to do. Especially MOVE was crazy where one click would stick the object to the pointer and the next click would unstick it. Also KiCAD is near crazy but not the user interface. Where EAGLE actually does a decent job. Associating a symbol with a footprint and then with a 3D appearance takes forever. There is an enormous lack of overview when libraries are loaded and inspected. The things it produces is ok, but working with components could have been arranged in one page. Sometimes you have to know you should DoubleClick an item because a right click does not offer the open function. The application is full of closed doors where you have to take another path.

@khayyam741 3 месяца назад

Diptrace I think is too outdated. Used it for a while in the past but it's hard to survive in PCB designer environment but if you are not planning to advance in PCB design go for it.

@TonyDaExpert Месяц назад

Was using kicad but notice jobs in my field all want altium including the work I currently has, luckily work pays for the license I might as well learn it

@channaranawaka8800 Год назад

It's true. I worked with Diptrace it's very easy to start with.

@mahendirangopal3885 10 месяцев назад

Everything is fine as a component but layout tools like push and shove is essential function. We may have to wait for some time

@victorychibuike2049 6 месяцев назад

what would you say about Proteus in comparison to KiCad? I really want to master just one of them

@PredictableDesigns 6 месяцев назад

I'd say free is hard to beat:) And I've never used Proteus.

@CaptainDangeax 26 дней назад

I started with Eagle, before switching to Kicad. Eagle autorouter is just crap, barely able to route anything.

@muhammadfathanhidayat9639 Год назад

even so..... it's a bit difficult for me to do the experiment using kicad because the guide is quite complicated.

@muhammadfathanhidayat9639 Год назад

😅👍

@evanbarnes9984 Год назад

Fucking Autodesk, man. I've been using Fusion for almost a decade, and I'm getting closer every day to bailing on it for other software because of Autodesk's antics and total failure to address basic UI problems. The only thing really keeping me there is that I use it professionally and there's a large cost in time and effort to switching. It's a shame to hear they've done the same to Eagle!

@Gangster88232 3 месяца назад

Frustration? Never met CR-8000.😅

@adaliszk 6 дней назад

Interesting, I had learned Eagle in school before it was acquired. Did it change that much that its bad now?

@PredictableDesigns 4 дня назад

No, I think it's always sucked:)

@adaliszk 4 дня назад

@@PredictableDesigns interesting, I should try some other PCB designers sometime to compare. Maybe it is the case where a specific workflow works well, but a different ones are problematic and without a mentor its really hard to adopt.

@jx7269 Год назад

You are 100% right about Eagle. It is complicated and horrible. I have used KiCad and it is simple and intuitive. What do think about KiCad vs. DipTrace?

@PredictableDesigns Год назад

I think DipTrace has the most intuitive interface so it has the shortest learning curve. But KiCad isn't too far behind,and you can't beat the price! Thanks for commenting.

@jx7269 Год назад

@@PredictableDesigns Thank you for your reply.

@ravichandel8690 7 месяцев назад

sir please help how can i learn to design pcb and read the sychmetic

@PredictableDesigns 7 месяцев назад

Of course...by watching my videos:)

@rubabmubarrat Год назад

as an Eagle user for 5 years+, I completely disagree with you

@PredictableDesigns Год назад

You're the first I've heard to ever like Eagle. But you've been using it 5 years so know it well, the challenge is for new users not used to it strange interface. Thanks for commenting.

@Superluis125 8 месяцев назад

You are not a new user, you have no voice here.

@aigis_0296 9 месяцев назад

What about cadence allegro

@cybermsantos 2 месяца назад

Kicad which is counterintuitive and frustrating

@nikhilyewale592 11 месяцев назад

Used Cadence orcad , best one ❤

@ali99_82 11 месяцев назад

Allegro?

@nikhilyewale592 11 месяцев назад

@@ali99_82 yes

@1DiscipleDragon Год назад

what are your thoughts on Altium's free software, CircuitMaker?

@PredictableDesigns Год назад

I've never used it so I can't comment.

@chainsawteddybear 2 месяца назад

what's your opinion on express pcb ?

@PredictableDesigns 2 месяца назад

Sorry, but I've never used it. Maybe someone else here can comment?

@williampaskewitz5383 5 месяцев назад

MultiSim was nice

@Winterfall1505 5 месяцев назад

I agree with him what he said about Eagle..."IT HAS A HORRIBLE UI"

@corynrobinson Год назад

Don't forget about Flux!

@harrisoncreates Год назад

Was just about to say this, Flux seems extremely promising

@subhamdas2491 3 месяца назад

Easyeda?

@kevintannady6432 Год назад

How about easyeda?

@PredictableDesigns Год назад

Yeah that is another option that I've heard can be good. I've never used it though myself.

@stanleypo2871 11 месяцев назад

How about OrCAD and PADS?

@mahendirangopal3885 10 месяцев назад

Orcad is good for schematics. PCB DESIGN IS BAD.

@mahendirangopal3885 10 месяцев назад

Overall Good is Diptrace however wait for push and shove functionality. Auto routing is excellent. Kicad Layout is good but auto routing??

@stanleypo2871 10 месяцев назад

@@mahendirangopal3885 I'm currently not in industry but PADS (formerly as Power PCB) had dominated market especially in China manufacturer years ago. Not sure why PADS fall out suddenly . And Is auto routing a standard practice in pcb engineer? I'm not sure, but surely it increases the efficiency.

@Kanthon 14 дней назад

Wait, why is Eagle frustrating? It has the most intuitive workflow.

@PredictableDesigns 14 дней назад

You are the first person I've ever heard say that about Eagle. Glad you like it:)

@srikarthikc7681 9 месяцев назад

EasyEDA?

@engjds 8 месяцев назад

Altium is also plagued with bugs, and requires a powerful system, BUT one he missed off: OrCAD, yes its expensive, but its rock solid, eagle has a weird cult base for no good reason except it used to be dirt cheap.

@CaptainDangeax 26 дней назад

I was never able to design a component using Eagle. With Kicad, it's as easy as paint. Draw a box, put the pins. Done. For the footprint, open the datasheet, place the pads, draw the outline, done.

@newman2022 Месяц назад

I've used eagles for a while Till one time i checked my designs And to my surprise I've found that i lost all my designs hours of works Because of a silly bug in this shitty software

@eastonsailer2223 5 месяцев назад

EasyEDA!!!

@startobytes Год назад

What is your opinion on EasyEDA?

@PredictableDesigns Год назад

I've never used it myself but I've heard quite a few others like it.

@georgeovel6423 Месяц назад

WINboard and WINschematic on a wind XP machune

@tongpoo8985 20 дней назад

I disagree about diptrace. That software is an abomination in my personal opinion as a noob, but maybe I'm just spoiled by how many great mechanical CAD products are out there (I do mostly mechanical). I've only used PADS and diptrace and I think they're both pretty bad. I'll have to try KiCAD, I've heard that's pretty good.

@findyou4539 Год назад

sir,any suggestions for android software

@PredictableDesigns Год назад

I don't know of any and I can't imagine doing PCB design on mobile.

@lwissdall9838 Год назад

I m not saying that's wrong but with my 8 years in hardware design it related to the complexity of the design i think altium and cadence have better quality than other as a time , it's like you have a aircraft f35 or f15 and you choose f15 against f35 ..😂

@DGNG-dd3to 11 месяцев назад

You forgot Cadence. Cadence is the most overpriced.

@Jack.K96 6 месяцев назад

What about Allegro?

@PredictableDesigns 5 месяцев назад

Never used it myself so no comment.

@khalidh5933 7 месяцев назад

What about Proteus?

@PredictableDesigns 7 месяцев назад

Never used it before.

@paricsigy Месяц назад

Probably you never used PADS from Mentor

@PredictableDesigns Месяц назад

Correct. I know of it but never used it personally.

@travism9376 Месяц назад

Altium is terrible and way overpriced. Plus they will borderline harras you to buy it if you get the trial. I suggest eadyeda it's easy to use and has a massive component library ready to go.