Currently if one performs a Mindfulness app session on waking Athlytic will use the HRV from that session for calculations. So no manual data pruning is required.
Correct me if I am wrong here, and I am an avid watcher of the channel, but you are looking at 4-7 apps to collect fitness, training, rest, recovery, all that stuff.... VS having Garmin connect. I have an apple watch and a Fenix 7. I keep trying to move ot the apple watch to use as a daily driver... but in the end I have to chase down multiple apps and/or multiple tools to do what Garmin does by default. And the most annoying points of apple watch, Constantly over heats in saunas, and I cannot take it off my wrist and workout even though it's hooked up to a HRM. I was hoping this video would give me some way to stay with it.... but I just can't. Thank you for the video and the update, it has helped me make my choice faster.
@@fitgearhunter ive bought and returned the ultra 2 times, I wear a fenix7X since launch and i was hoping it could do it, but Garmin is just better. The only miss I have with garmin is enabling my 2FA for DUO on my garmin, it would make everything better. but that one thing lacking... it really is the best options for people doing serious training
Hello, To be honest with you I’m more frustrated than ever. I’ve the epix 2 and the AWU and can’t decide which one should I keep. The Epix gives more data but it’s not accurate at all while the AWU is the best accurate watch in the market. With which one should I go ? I’ve no idea. I’ve been watching tons of videos, reading tons of comments and getting tons of confusions. Please help 🙏🙏🙏
Hey! Happy to help. I am more focused on value from Watch when it comes to training and recovery, and feel like there's no competition: Garmin is by far the best. Even with the combination of apple watches I shared about I don't feel like they in any way Provide the comprehensive holistic summary of information. There are only two areas that Garmin has less accuracy. Sleep stages and workout tracking heart rate, which I have found to be about 90% accurate so feel it is sufficient. What inaccuracies are you finding? As in that I think it comes down to your primary use for the watch. If it is for the myriad of smart watch functions possible than the Apple Watch is superior, if it is for in-depth training and recovery details with some smart watch functions, then Garmin all the way.
@@fitgearhunter Thank yo so much Fit Gear Hunter. I really appreciate your time and effort. When I watch your videos you convince me to go with the epix 2 and when I watch this video ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-dDtt98gJjrY.html he convinces me to go with Apple Watch ultra 😵💫. Pretty confusing right! At the same time sleep tracking and Heart rate accuracy affect the in-depth training and recovery also. I hope that Garmin will fix sleep tracking and heart rate accuracy with a software update. Do you have any updates about those bugs been fixed? A tons of thanks sir
How necessary is it to weed out high and low hrv measurements? I was under the impression that number is pretty elastic, so variations should be normal?
The perfect video I needed right now, thanks Hunter! Wonderful comprehensive comparisons of the most valuable options in the Apple (watch) ecosystem. Greatly appreciated! With stress scores on the horizon, Athlytic looks like the end-all replacement for Garmin-socialized AW users.
Thank you so much for the kind words! Yes it somewhat is, although I don't think I could live without a couple of minor pieces from some of the others!
Hi Hunter, great video. I ask you a technical question with the measurement intervals of HR, HRV and SPo2, is it worth an apple watch? I ask because I think that the HRV takes it only once at night and the HR 1 minute, etc. In other words, seeing this interval that can be very long to give a good validity to the measurements, is it recommendable to buy an Apple Watch?
Great question! The AW takes HR measurements between 1-10 minutes, so not really often enough. I think you should only consider an AW if you were dependent on the smartwatch features! The HRV is only 2-3 hours out of the box unless you activate the afib setting as well. I think it's not worth it versus Garmin's options!
@@fitgearhunter What you say is true, my intention is to use it to see my daily HRV for workouts and training load so as not to overload myself. I am in doubt because of how beautiful the apple watch ultra is, but Garmin has many benefits and a lot more battery life.
Great video!! I use Athlytic and wear my watch all day/night. When I sleep I activate the sleep mode on the Apple Watch setting. Do I need to delete the night readings every morning?
@@fitgearhunter Cheers for the quick reply. Your videos are awesome, mate. I definitely smashed the like button and subscribed. Keep up the phenomenal content 👊🏽
Training Today remove HRV outliers, is a native AW App not depending on iPhone and it’s Ready To Train score compares to my Garmin FR955 now … YES! The notable exception being very poor sleep having less impact, if HRV is not too bad. It is also working well without a subscription, and there is a life time buying option as well 👍👍👍
@@yamin2000 they both are relatively reliable, but each to look at different aspects of the data they are pulling from the Apple Watch. That's the universal aspect, they are both pulling the same data from the Apple Watch
@highlanderes where did you get this bit of info regarding the removal of outliers? So with training today you don’t have to go and remove them yourself in Apple health?
@@JamesTicehurst Traning today followed Garmin better. Installing Athlytic, Training today and HRV tracker, it became clear that when Athlytic is overly positive (often) compared to Training today, I can see the outliers clearly in HRV tracker. If Training today ignore or smooth out outliers I don’t know, but it works. Athlytic I use for excertion, and it now has a stress parameter fairly similar to Garmin, that I find very useful, especially sleep values.
Concerning the AFib history: I can not activate it since I have never been diagnosed with AFib. I.e. the app wont let me configure it or turn it on. Any tips on that?
Hey! Thanks for asking. Because from what I've found there's still a normal Mean or Range - 300-400% of Mean measurements are off and reveal that significant outliers should be taken out, in my opinion.
V helpful. Would be great if Apple started listening to athletes, it’s a v capable smart watch but not an athletes watch… yet. A training calendar is necessary. No athlete just starts running, they plan and have months of calendared workouts mapped out
I think the path they’re on is where they’ll mostly stick to. They’ll keep adding metrics they collect and letting third party apps do the dirty work with it
Well that would have been a really good piece to add to my review wouldn't it?! Did not think of it initially unfortunately, and will have to look up and add to description details - thank you for asking and pointing out!
@Fitgearhunter: how did you ‘validate’ that the data interpretation of these apps, for example Chipr, are actually correct? In my experience the apps is this video all give different values for the same metric. I don’t put my money on apps being developed by (with all due respect) a hobbyist that has no science based backing such as Marco Altini, Whoop, Oura or Firstbeat (Garmin)
Sure thing - that is actually the point! They are all 3rd party small teams making guesstimates on what their algorithm would define as 'recoverd' or 'strained' etc - so non are validate-able - so none are that easy to say they are reliable
Athlytic can be forced to ignore the sleep data HRV stream by using a 2 minute Mindfulness session each morning upon waking. This should eliminate the necessity of Apple Health App data pruning.
Yes completely - nor does the fitness app built in offer training load tracking or exertion evaluations to determine relative difficulty of the workout on your cardiovascular system
'24-hour SDNN measurements of less than 50 milliseconds (less than 50 ms average variance between heartbeats) are associated with being unhealthy, 50 to 100 is associated with compromised health, and values greater than 100 are considered healthy.' This info from online and suggests your rate of 26 is unhealthy. How to interpret?
Great question! HRV is different person to person from what I've seen, and can't be completely categorized into values - but I will say at the time of this video I was significantly run down. I think the most important is the trend line for your personal numbers. Thanks for asking!
Mr. manly, I could not be more frustrated about that very question! I ordered on opening day at release and the 265 said it had 1-3 days to ship and then the 965 had 5-8 weeks. I was fine with that because they usually ship them in parts, but I still have nothing!
My hrv is very high on the apple watch - too high for me to believe it. Does anyone else have such high hrv and do you have any idea what might be causing it? LAst night' values were 267, 342,297,317,349,200. 40, 143,124, 119,245,241,270,308,248,333,269
@@allanrube5184 yes that would make the AW seem wildly erroneous. I haven't seen others w values that high, although I guess it's now impossible it's certainly unlikely! No other ideas for how to fix though unfortunately. What AW series are you using? (Although not sure that affects things too much)
i found wellatory over my head even with pro… they talk about what is corasponding but i didnt find anything that seemed right or to help with recovery
