Thank you! The last bit of speakers not going bad was incredibly helpful! I ordered a 5.1.2 Klipsch set up, and it's still on the way. What was stressing me out is that the front 2 channels are r-26fa's and the center is a r-25c, all of which are discontinued. I have been stressing because I feel I spent a lot of money on speakers that I just now learned are discontinued and am worried that the quality is going to be poor and I wish I spent a little more to get the current version of them (625fa and 52c respectively) despite stretching my budget already. Hearing that comment helped put my mind at ease.
I think I created Atmos 15 years ago. I have a 11.1 speaker system. I played around with different types of speakers including horn speaker like Klipch. I finally found Mirage speakers that blew them all away. They are omnidirectional speakers that radiate sound 360 degrees so the sound is unmatched! Just the front left side consists of 1 ceiling speaker, 1 ear level and 1 lower level speaker so when you add the other speakers on the left with the same array plus 1 ceiling center speaker and center bottom speaker..you get a giant 10 x 16 ft wall of sound! The rears have 5 speakers.
Subwoofer placement in a room does not fall under a general rule, especially if you're using two or more. In most cases, if you're adding a second sub, its suggested to put it on an adjacent wall, or opposing wall from the other sub. By locating them along the same plane as suggested here, they'll both be subject to the same cancellations of sound thus limiting their ability to properly pressurize the room.
Andru, love the channel bro and especially Klipsch. Just subbed! I agree with Channa that you can get a lot of life out of quality speakers. I have 3 Klipsch LaScalas in my theater room and they are amazing! I just received from Klipsch the new RF-7 III to review and they are absolutely amazing! I have 4 videos on my channel about them. Going to check out your other videos.
I see a ton of people saying ceiling bounce speakers are dumb... but it makes sense, by bouncing of the ceiling, the sound source would appear wider. You can see they deaden the left and right side of the speaker to concentrate the sound. Granted, to get 100% effect out of the speakers, heavy math and measurements is required.
Great video guys. One thing that needs to be highlighted is that for the best output for Dolby Atmos speakers is the calibration after wiring everything. It's all about calibration to find that sweet spot at the main listening position.
Hi! Yes, that is correct! You need to run the room correction software in your AVR to get the best sound, once the speakers are properly connected and in place.
hi @@TechnoDad I need advice, i'm new at this. I have a denon 940h receiver, polk audio tower s-60's and 2 10" Klipsch sub woofers. the geek squad set me up using the mic. 1 tower is at 6db and the other is at 7db, the subs are at 12db, I hope they did their best. my question is I want to get a center channel with punchy bass, I like metal music, so I want the drums to pop, i'm interested in the Klipsch 250 is that good for punchy bass in that price range or do you know something better? my friend told me I shouldn't get a center, because that's more for theatre, what do you think? and if I get a center speaker can I hook it up without having to to set up all the speakers again? thank you!
demoed a full 5.2.4 with 2 15 inch subs from this klipsch series in an acoustic studio and it was lack luster for the money. ill stick to my definitive technology and 4 in ceiling speakers.
Subwoofer placement is NOT always best up front on the same wall as the tv. Each room is different. Furnishings, drapes, etc, all affect sound. You need to update your knowledge. In most cases, the best place for a sub is as close to the seating position as possible. Fortunately, with the Klipsch wireless subs, they're easily moved around to find the best placement. Like he said folks, take care of your speakers and they'll last for years. The speakers I use for audio only, a Delcoid LM-1 sat/sub setup, are almost 40 yrs old and sound great.
This was amazing thank you I have the synergy set but I am upgrading the center speakers and looking to add 2 Dolby Atmos speakers to the set later will upgrade the rest. What’s your thought on that?
I have ref series cherry ,have had for years ,and ref sub 12" ,never watch movies but I listen to them for music . I have hooked up a Parasound 5 ch 250 watt per ,makes these speakers sing ...bright ,great imaging ... Oh yea a Denon amp as processor ... Have a set of Polk audio ref series in mahogany book shelf speakers 5 ,Sub and still in box ...downsizing ...
HEY BRO QUICK QUESTION, CAN I USE 2 TOWER SPEAKERS AS A SURROUND INSTEAD OF BOOKSHELF SPEAKERS?? BECAUSE I WANT TO BUY TO MORE TOWER SPEAKERS A A SURROUND..
QUESTIONS: 1) Do amplifiers (Denon etc.) crossover LFE automaticaly from eg. stereo or 5.0 sources? 2) What about gaming? I have a computer with Creative SB AE-9 sound card and GTX 1080Ti (in near future RTX 3080Ti). I would like to have 5.1 sound from games which already support it on my Edifier s760d analog or toslink Dolby Digital Live connection. But I don't want DDL since it is 16bit/48kHz. I would prefer something better through HDMI. Is it possible?
I picked up 2 r-28F's for $90 off FB marketplace, as well as a RC26 center and a 10" powered sub with the amp burnt up (needs repairied) So i just use a seperate amplifier to run the sub.
I just use a pair of Sony HDMI 9.1 surround headphones (HW700). Works great, I mainly play games so nothing beyond 5.1 really benefits me and Dolby Atmos is only supported in like 3 games, plus you have to pay $20 just to use it. It cost me $170, $350 If you bought it new, and the only downside is no HDR pass through but I personally don't like HDR, it tends to make games look less vivid more and more dark (likely due to limited brightness the image is darkened in general). If you want HDR you can just get an HDMI splitter and make the headphones output to a cheap display. I'd recommend something small like computer monitor so only an addition of $100 to have HDR.
A little nitpicky, but I think for Klipsch, Reference is "this is great stuff", Reference Premiere is "this is absolute top of the line" and Heritage is "this is the most traditional, old-school masterpieces, like a Renaissance painting level speaker", if that makes any sense, haha.
Go on Vudu and dolby has a free download for Dolby Atmos which has 3 or 4 short videos that will blow you away when you get your Atmos speakers dialed in correctly.
While he is correct that those speakers need to be pointed in, I recommend putting your side surrounds on a lift of some sort as you need the speakers to be able to clear the person next to you. At that height it is ok if you only have one person but if you have two or three, the people on the ends are getting blasted from one side and the other side is blocked, especially given how extremely close they are to the couch. I believe the official recommendation is 2' above seated ear level (though I'd probably only do 1' given the upfiring speakers). Don't know why they don't design these 'sets' correctly for the side and rear surrounds a lot of the time. And good to hear that you are local PNW guy!
Greets from Netherlands! I like your video's. Plain, clear,simple and to the point. I do have the a3070 and reference II Klipsch speakers. It's a perfect combination and rocks. The subs i have however are SVS PB13 Ultra, they're much better then the Klipsch ones. For the yamaha it is better to put the heights up in the corners to benefit more from the build in DSP, atmos isn't sounding different this way but overall it's a better placement.
Hi, Nice video.... I will have 7.2 setup with Klipsch so how many Atmos Speakers I need to create Atmos effect. Like Front two (RP-280FA or R-26FA) will be enough with other 4 Surround Sound (RP-250S)? Or I need to use more like use two RP-250S and two RP-140SA to make 4 Surround sound? Also If I use 7.2.4, can I use 7.2 Regular Reference Speakers and 4 in ceiling Atmos speakers? Which is in ceiling Klipsch Atmos Speakers?
depends on your receiver? Bear this in mind your eyes and ears mainly focus on what's happening in front.. So go for Front heights and a tip I learnt was sit down then shine a torch / flashlight atthe wall (holding the flashlight to the side of your head pointing the light at the wall) where the woofer of the speaker will be then mark with some tape of where the position the speaker is.going to be...
I use JBL Studio 1 series as my front soundstage so it's Studio 130's as my stereo speakers., 120c as my Centre and Control 1 Pro's as my Front Heights and a pair as my surround speakers. and a Klipsch 100SW as the subwoofer.. . in Dolby Atmos / DTS X configuration
As a studio engineer, "normally" reference means flat or accurate. Meaning these should not color a mix to much. You should desire reference speakers to enjoy the natural sound.
Yes, huge difference, alot cleaner sound, and if you take a closer look online or their webpage..... the RP or Premier doesn't use or show the what feels like hundreds of screws around the speakers and grills. Heres an example. Look up the center channel R-34C ... then look up the RP-450C thats what I own with no grill on and you will see the difference, not to mention the wattage, where they moved the port to the rear for a reason explained. Those 2 are comparable but the RP450 blows the 34 away if u watch a video.
First of all, thanks for your info but I have a question. I'm planning to upgrade my klipsch center speaker R-25C to a RP-450CA, my A/V Receiver is Atmos Ready (Marantz SR-6010) but I'm not planning to buy more dolby atmos speaker than the center one, so the question is: Will the RP-450CA work with my current set up ? I want to start preparing for the future.
Can i use the Klipsch R-41M as a budget alternative for a height/atmos speakers in my home theatre setup, instead of the Klipsch R-41SA and still get the same overhead effects?
Just one question did you get rid of the bouncy speakers?I I've watched a lot of reviews and installs and as of 2020 most experts and youtubers recommend inceilling installations and not the bosie bounce effect. Too many variables and the main reason I feel is the time delay of the sound waves and the sound origin you hear it above but your brain is saying no its right in front of me so you kinda hear it twice.
Andru I got a question or to anyone: I have had a 7.1 sound system for almost 10 years. I want to upgrade my speakers to Klipsch Reference with its two tower speakers having atmos speaker built on top of them, if I consider buying them could I bypass the two extra speakers I had already existing from my original 7.1? This way eliminating two speakers? Thanks 😊
Will the Music souund great with the klipsch RP- 8000F or if i make klipsch suround Sound system on DENON AVR-X4500H Surround receiver, please help!!!!!
Hey guys ,thanks for sharing i have a question i have a Samsung 65inch curved tv but i want not to expensive speakers or soundbar which one should i get 😎
I did the slow updating "over years" with my speaker purchasing; however, I had quite a time matching speaker tone during that time. Twenty-three years ago I purchased the main speakers- Infinity Overture 2. They contained subs in each unit. I then got an NHT sub and later an additional HSU sub. Those were all excellent but then I had a journey through the center speaker purchasing three different ones until I ended up with an Infinity IL36C- a fantastic speaker that matched the others well. Now I am looking at upgrading the mains and was told to get rid of the NHT and the mains with sub for the smaller 16x14 area and have one sub ( I moved and now have a small theater area- used to have a large room ) and get Klipsch as they supposedly match the Infinity sound well. I am considering R625FA as I have a new ATMOS receiver. Thoughts?
Hey Andru great video question though. Can you use CDT-5650-C II as your left and right rears and point them towards from above and have R-625FA as your left and right fronts?
but what about content without dolbo atmos sound channel? is it somehow incorporated in all sound or at least the general 5.1 content still has sound above/up top?
Sound engineers define "reference" as being a flat frequency response speaker with no extra sound processing or accentuating of any particular frequency while giving the clearest and most natural sound possible.
Do the speakers pointing to the ceiling really work? Or should I get in ceiling speakers? I mean it just seems to be a selling point and not work well. thanks
Hi Gabriel they do work. Try the JBL nightlife demo also if you can. Thats my second home theatre . it s cheaper than klipsh but the sound is very realistic. I got it for a steal. $ 1300 plus taxes in Canada. They come with 2 towers with built in dolby atmos surrounds and the surrounds also have upward firing speakers plus a 100 watt sub. They hardly have any reviews online but i saw a demo in 2001 audio video and just fell in love with it inspite having a yamaha 2040 aventage hooked up to energy connoisseur and mirage speakers.
Hey guys thanks for the video. I have a question that I truly need help with. I am a Klipsch fan through and through. I currently have a 7.2 setup all being Klipsch except the receiver. My problem is my theater room is quite large 16’ x 26’. I have a very comfortable sectional sofa theater style. The problem is being a sectional it’s a solid piece of furniture that makes a curve being almost a “L” shape. Nevertheless I have to have a speaker behind it to even things out sound wise. The speaker is a Klipsch 28F so a fairly large speaker. I feel like the sound is trapped and it’s position really hurts the over all experience. I have racked my brain on what options (if any) do I have. I have it places on a 12” Klipsch sub to elevate some to release some of my muffled watts melting away into the back of the sectional. I need your help badly as a solution so I can for the first time and thousands of dollars enjoy my system. I’m you newest subscriber - thanks in advance and I eagerly wait for your response. Cheers.
Wow, that's a lot of good speakers! I heard about some soundbars having Atmos, I need to check out more.of your videos to see if you already reviewed it! Nice collaboration my friend.
if you want good sound always get a seperate receiver and seperate speakers.. Soundbars never will be as good as speakers that are placed around you. However they're much better than TV speakers..
Andru/Channa Great vid man. I just bought a C7 and need a Home Theatre system but I don't want such a large bulky sytem. Not to mention the cost. What is the best small form factor Atmos HTIB that you reccomend?
@mystickid1 There's a great 5.1.2 speaker set from Focal (Sib Evo Atmos amzn.to/2C5uzvj), but it comes in at $1,299. Then you'll probably need an AVR, and that costs around $449 (Denon x2300H amzn.to/2H034qH) that will be able to support 7-channels. You'll be getting a quality system for sure, if you go with these items. If you want more options or a little assistance, you can always email me: technodad55@gmail.com
Buy two sets of Klipsch Quintet 5, then you can do 5.1.4 or 7.1.2 Then you just need a receiver and a sub or two The Quintets size and weight makes them easy to mount on the ceiling and walls with built in quarter inch threads and keyhole mount.
I prefer my Totem Tribe IIIs. They hang on the wall for the L, R, centre and I've done ceiling speakers for the rears and surround. I think the "bouncing" effects of the Atmos content off the ceiling takes too long. Why not have the Atmos sound "shoot" down from the ceiling? You'd get a quicker response... My surround amp is by Anthem. I've had Yamaha, Onyko and Denon over the years and the Anthem is the cleanest most realistic sound I've had for under $3000. Don't buy your audio equipment at Best Buy. Find a high end audio dealer and take the time to audition your speakers -invest your money wisely...
Hello, I am totally confused. When i look at the back side of all these 9.2 receivers I see speaker out for 7.2.4 setup. receivers I looked at: (advertised as 9.2) Denon AVR-X4400H Marantz SR6012 Marantz SR7012 Yamaha AVENTAGE RX-A2070 Onkyo TX-RZ920 for example on this Denon X4400H it shows: Front: center, left and right (3) Surround middle: left, right (2) Surround back: left,right (2) Height -1: left,right (2) Height-2: left, right(2) subwoofer-preout: 2 That makes it: 7.2.4, so why is it not mentioned in any review anywhere that it can be used like that??
Those 9.2 receivers have the ability to process 11.2. But they only have 9 amplified channels. So you would need an extra 2 channel amp to run from the pre outs to run the extra 2 channels.
are you wanting to go 7.2? Or 5.1.2? To get Atmos / DTSX you'll need to go 5.1.2. You say "the best speaker system" depends on your budget and size of your room.. If you've a small modest room like 13ft / 11ft? Then go with bookshelf speakers on stands as the fronts, same with your surround speakers and 2 subwoofers. If your room is larger then go with floorstanders as the stereo speakers.. set all speakers to small in the Denon speaker setup.. Or can you go 7.2.4? You can also use small bookshelf speakers for height surrounds or get the elevation speakers for height surrounds. Start with your stereo front speakers first then go from there.
dolby atmos only goes through eARC HDMI 2.1. The bandwidth of ARC is not enough and the sound is compressed to 5.1so atmos info is lost over ARC. You can plug your source player into your AVR and use pass through to the TV. You will get atmos that way if you don't have the eARC option
Atmos speakers...Option 1..."elevation speakers" mounted on the front and rear walls w/ angled front baffles (face)...angled down 30 degrees. Option 2..in-ceiling speakers also angled towards listening position with "sound bouncing" the LAST choice..which was everyone's "1st generation approach". Even Dolby recommended that...bouncing sound is always the LAST alternative when there is NO other option.
Anderson, actually Dolby issued in a 39 page report in 2015 on Dolby Atmos in which it reminds all readers that all results are based on an AVR that is capable for processing the "Atmos" signal. In addition, the report goes on to state that if your ceiling is low or you have to mount the speakers on overhead trusses or brackets, they may be too close to you as you listen and as a result could be distracting because you will hear directional sound instead of feeling immersed in an atmosphere in which sounds occur naturally overhead, which is the desired result of the up-firing Atmos speakers. The report on numerous occasions cites the benefit of using up-firing speakers versus traditional height speakers. That report is available online free and gives a lot of good information about the different various setups.
Couldn’t you essentially achieve the same type of atmos effect with a 7.2 and use 4 cdt 5800 c ii in the ceiling? I say this in part because 99% of my movies don’t have atmos in the option. Spend more on a receiver and several more speakers for little purpose in the end.
My man talks and interrupts way too much! Other than, informative video and I eventually want to upgrade from an Atmos soundbar. Hopefully I’ll one day be able to afford Klipsch!
I know Techno Dad mounted his Atmos speakers on his ceiling because his home design is not well suited for ceiling bounce. I'm going to be using my two Atmos speakers using ceiling bounce and the speakers are next to the TV in the front. I'm curious about how sound will move overhead when only using the two front Atmos speakers vs using two front and two rear Atmos speakers. Could you try that out and let us know? Thanks
dolby atmost is nothing but a trick to get you to buy high price speaks thx is dolby atmost,movies only play a small atmost in the movie,if the track is in there any speakers you have will give you the dolby atmost affect
Yeah, there are lots of speakers out there, and for the performance to value, they are great. Would I love to have a full ML setup, sure I would, but I can't afford $2k per speaker, and I'm sure most people can not.
I mean, you guys only sort of know what you're talking about unless you're just trying to oversimplify. But, I caught several things that were not correct. I can tell you guys are just kind of DIYers, which is okay. Good video anyway and I encourage you to keep going and keep learning because you're good anchors on video.
The 450CA is supposed to match the real wood vener of the Klipsch RP-280FA. That is the ONLY difference. All the spec's between the two are otherwise identical.
