Kiwi here, and that's how it should be. Nobody ever asked the rugby world to sit and watch politely. Challenge met with challenge. Respect from both sides. Perfect!
Yes they did several national teams have been sanctioned by WRU for disrupting the dance stating it was disrespectful. I’m a life long Rugby fan and a Veteran of multiple combat tours from several conflicts and wars. There is no place in sport for war dances. These players are not Maori warriors they are rugby players playing a sport.
@@bobarcher5837 this one is from the Oxford Advanced Definition of haka noun from the Oxford Advanced Learner's Dictionary haka noun /ˈhɑːkə/ /ˈhɑːkə/ a traditional Maori war dance with singing.
The haka is a display to intimidate before battle. It’s not meant to be clapped or applauded… it’s historical meaning was to scare the s**t out of the enemy. The Irish coming back and singing to represent their country is the equivalent of the haka… and acknowledges the All Blacks’ preparation for ‘war’ with their own. It’s respect… and is fkin awesome
@@jpthegreat333 funny now because you know what it is… 300 years ago if you’re on a sail powered ship looking to colonise and you see a 50 strong group of dudes, faces tattoo’d, armed with sharpened jade stone clubs screaming like this at you… not so funny
I'm maori, spent a lot of my early years in Kapa Haka learning all sorts of waiata and haka, and NOTHING is more ruthless than when the other party responds with a challenge like this! Other highlights are the French standing in a chevron at the world cup a decade or so back an the Saffas getting closer and closer.... got the whole family's blood up! Nothing shows more respect to the Haka than meeting the challenge. Ka mau te wehi 💪
@@cielo8842 that’s not the point of a Haka. You either meet the challenge in kind or don’t. It’s not about fair, it’s about intimidation. The Māori knew war wasn’t fair, but they also knew at war had many aspects to it, like psychological.
@mrderp1292 I mean I'd you actually read what happened, they never conquered the maori. They bought land and slowly out colonised them. Read up Gate Pā. That's about how it went most of the time. Maori were excellent guerilla fighters. Part of the reason they didn't repel the Europeans was that each tribe would constantly fight each other whilst the Europeans staked foothold after foothold, but there was never open battle against them
Damn straight, thats the way it must be, its their home turf. You not just playing against the guys on the park but the collective belief of the whole nation. Go Ireland...
I love the historical context here. The ABs saying we are warriors prepare to fight, and the irish crowd singing we are survivors prepare to struggle. Great haka and a great response
The Irish accepting the challenge of the Haka is exactly what’s expected and shows they’re ready to battle, this Māori boy gets excited every time it (The Haka) is challenged by another team because it makes it for a good watch….Let’s go!
Exactly. While we were under the Brits alot of Irish soldiering traditions came through song. So it's a fitting response to me. Two groups about to go to war for 80 minutes getting themselves ready
The reason the Irish waited was because they were showing respect to the Maori Haka culture. It speaks volumes for the Irish social etiquette even at a sporting event. The Irish listened and watched the New Zealanders then it was a case of we respect your culture and challenge and now listen to this Celtic anthem.
My family is Irish. I also know the historical and traditional significance of the Haka. This is one of the coolest things I have ever seen. Challenge being met with challenge. Mutual respect from nations with warrior heritage. Brought me to tears.
I don't think any country's warrior heritage compares with the UK to be honest. those sobs have been fighting brutal conquesting wars for many centuries. and it shows in their people
@B Babbich but we are not equal in every way. that's just how it goes mate. all cultures and peoples have things they excel in. that's how evolution works. and it's okay to point those things out when you see them.
@B Babbich and we are all exactly the same? and there's nothing that differentiates us from one to another? nothing unique about individuals or cultures?... just "fight, eat and have sex"? that is a sad perspective
@B Babbich I fully understand that we all have a lot in common. that is not the point here. the point is that we also differ in ways too. I feel like you are just trolling at this point. have a good one
@@Al_Ellisande i never claimed every nation did. I was countering macks claim that only one nation did a pre match display which was false. I mean I guess if ireland wanted a display they could have one but no one is going to find a drunk irishman falling off of a bar stool that entertaining
Goosebumps - my father sang this on his deathbed in Dunedin Public Hospital. The head nurse came in and said to him - "You know you're dying?" He looked at her and as matter of fact said- "yes" and proceeded to blast it out. All the nursing staff had tears in their eyes. Now, I'm the last of the family line what was born in Ireland. RIP dad.
The f kind of nurse walks into a dying man's room while hes singing and asks if he knows hes dying? I'll take shit that never happened for 100 dollars.
That was beautiful. The Irish showed 100% respect to the Kiwi warriors 👍🏻👍🏻. That’s their way of saying we know you’re tough, but so are we. Now let’s play ❤️
To my Irish friends. Im from RSA and may I just say that it is amazing to see how you people show how proud you are of your nation… I truly admire that… I do hope that you guys will let me sing that song with you in a pub one day… Love and blessings from Danie du plessis… 😊
@@anubisgod23ecause social media and news outlets like ESPN killed it....... I’m sure if you’ve only ever heard about it in folklore, it can be very intimidating. Coming from an Irishman here........ when it’s watched on a million different Instagram stories and RU-vid and tiktok and Facebook, it’s impossible to hold the same weight.
I love it! I think all teams should be as proud as this. I don't feel it's disrespectful of the opposing team. In fact I think it fuels the need to win. Both teams should honor their own heritages. It's great, I love it....and yes, I'm Irish.
@@HarrySmith-hr2ivnah mate, google the meaning , it’s not a nice song, but it holds a place in the heart of any man or woman with a connection to Ireland who has the knowledge of it, to be sure
@@HarrySmith-hr2iv the Fields of Athenry is indeed a wonderful song. As a Kiwi married to an Irishman, I learned the words as I love the passion in the song. It would be great if you could research our culture too, you’d be humbled, especially when you realise NZ’s rugby history and deep respect we have for our opponents. The haka is performed to greet visitors traditionally, it’s respectfully performed to farewell community members at funerals, welcome new born babies at Christenings, join families at weddings and many other gatherings in NZ. It’s not about intimidation, but in sport a welcoming challenge and we absolutely love a response to it.
You may have a a valid point there dude regardless of any latent 4 leaf clover bias as yet undisclosed. Me myself hasn't got any dog in the hunt but I kinda agreee mate !!
@@TheArshitauheed 100% you have never been to one and are talking out your arse, Irish are awesome at MMA events. Back their own like no other, and I’m completely unbiased.
The look on Jack Conans face will always stand out to me when I think about this game. He basically said, give us your best shot, we'll take it and come back for more. A great day that was.
Such power and passion. Sends tingles down your spine. Notice how they nodded their heads in respect at the end. Good fans on both sides showing support for their teams.
Psychological one upmanship? The one upmanship that psychologically didn't do anything to England when England demolished the All Blacks in the most recent world cup?
@@DjSpyjoy The intention is psychological one-upmanship. Whether it actually functions that way is up to the individuals on the field and their preparation beforehand.
@@James_489 The TV microphones were close to the NZ squad for the benefit of TV viewers. We don't know how it all sounded to the Irish players, but you can bet they would have heard The Fields of Athenry loud and clear.
This is true competition, no disrespect at all. Modern sport exactly as it should be, which is the two competing sides proudly displaying their support for their respective teams in the manner they know best. Gotta love it!
As a response that's fine - a respectful response to the challenge. What is not cool is the 70,000 Hooray Henrys at Twickenham who drown out 23 guys issuing a cultural challenge? Not cool - especially with the dreadful "Swing Low etc". Particularly with it's racist undertones (those who played club rugby in England in the 1970s will know what I mean)
@@Aidankiwi The Head of State of New Zealand is King Charles 3rd of England. I've no time for him. A Maori war chant is inappropriate when the game is Rugby, not an all out tribal swords, axes and spears blood and bones death battle. Let the NZ team sing a peaceful song, just as Ireland sang Fields of Atherny.
But we're not allowed to sing our national anthem and have to sing that stupid 'Ireland's call' nonsense. Yeah, it's for the northies, but our national anthem is a deeply felt part of OUR culture.
The Kiwis: We're going to rip you to pieces and feast on your flesh! The Irish: We're going to mesmerize you with a song and make you fall in love with us.
I've been watching rugby for more than 35yrs and even though Im English, The Haka still gives me full body goosebumps and chills, every single time - truly one of the greatest traditions in any sport ever!
I'm a Liverpool fan and I'll always be biased over the "You'll Never Walk Alone" chant, but the New Zealand "Haka" is 100% up there as an example of culture in sport. I love it, and I respect those opponents who stand up to it without disrespecting it
Speaking as an Englishwoman, I'm one of our traditional British mongrels: English/Irish/Scots/Dutch (I have no idea how that last one got into my dna). It gives me a lot of leeway in the teams I can support.
Nothing gets me more pumped and ready for war than an All Black HAKA and I'm from Australia. Love the Irish as well hearts of gold with fight or die spirit Respect to all men under God.
Dear goodness, this was amazing to watch, love the haka so much and get goosebumps watching but the Irish done an amazing job as well, brilliant both teams ❤❤
Very cool. Nice to see something that started in war and violence graduate to sport and reasonably civilized competition. Thank you to both sides and teams.
Ya just thought ya'd let us know, like, beekerface ? One thing that 800 years of occupation has done, it's begat a nation of flag wavers. The Dail loves ya !
Apart from the times the kiwi players went to the press crying and the opposition nations were fined by the WRU for being disrespectful by singing or committing the sin of taking a step forward.
@@knoll9812 fuck the all blacks, why do they get a dedicated time to intimidate their opponents and puff their chests? They should have sang over the whole thing
God I fucking love how… human it is. The chanting and that movements and the singing coming from the stands. Every culture throughout human history has had some version of that. Brilliant
I love the haka against the two teams when we lost the great no 8 Anthony Foley at next match the ABs presented a no 8 jersey to Ireland placed between the two teams and did such an emotional haka such a sign of respect...and this year Ireland presented the ABs a no 11 For Sean Wainui and then AB s did another beautiful haka............I a!ways respect it ,and the keeping quite when kicking for conversion....so I'm glad the crowd waiting till last min before singing ..
No reason why one side should be able to pump themselves up and get adrenalined whilst the other side just stand and take it. Well done the crowd for giving it all.
Englishmen here. Personally I love watching the Haka, its theatrical and its part of the culture. Its also pretty intimidating, especially when New Zealand used to be outright world beaters. There will be those of you that hate watching it; I think the Irish fans singing back here is them rallying their boys for the challenge, and fans are a part of sport, so why not let them sing?
The Head of State of New Zealand is King Charles 3rd of England. I've no time for him. A Maori war chant is inappropriate when the game is Rugby, not an all out tribal swords, axes and spears blood and bones death battle. Let the NZ team sing a peaceful song, just as Ireland sang Fields of Atherny.
