India armed forces should put SSS defence P-series assault rifles to extensive testing for 2 years in both ladakh and Jaisalmer, and eventually if found acceptable, should be inducted in large numbers.
I agree with your comments. Rather this should be put in field use with CRPF, BSF or similar para-military forces who are dealing in all the terrain conditions
The best options here would be to manufacture the Galil ACE or P-72. However there may be some problem in mass manufacturing of P-72 as SSS is very new in the field. However they can set up a JV with a more experienced player to manufacture a mass order. Both rifles should be seriously considered as both seem to be better options than AK-203 in terms of price and recoil.
@@riteshgamer7255 dude, on what basis did you predict that AKs have more damage 😹, i mean people are just shitting anything after becoming pubg intellectuals, it's not same as what you would have seen in games, in reality Galil Ace 32 has been proven to be more superior than the Modern AKs including original Soviet ones, and AK203 is not any rocket science with complex mechanism to be more stronger than it's previous models, it's just an AK103 with barrel being pinned instead of being pressed as it's used to be in M and 103 varients. They just added picatiny rails and telescopic stock to it. They are reliable among their league of 7.62*39 mm ARs, but they aren't the best in terms of what you mentioned based on virtual world.
@@ultralegend6067 that's known fact kid, future wars will will compel you to engage targets beyond 300 meters i.e 400-600 meters and AKs cannot do the job, we can't fight tomorrow's war with yesterday's weapon. Yes AKs are undoubtedly reliable but at the same time confined modernity. Even a red dot scope on an AK203 cannot remain accurately 0 because the rail itself is riveted on to the dust cover. If you carry an AK, you are allowing the enemies to come closer upto 300 meters, if you are carrying something like Fn Scar H, Sig 716i, Fn Fal slr or CM901 you can engage targets beyond 800 meters. AKs r good for counter insurgencies but think of conventional wars too.
SSS defence ko opportunity milna chaiye , long term point of view se bahut important hai Bharat ke liye. Pehle Ak 203 ke and P-72 simultaneously use karna chaiye. Then gradually P 72 ko jada se jada induction karna thik rahega.
SSS defence doesn't have big manufacturing facility and their rifles are not proven. We need shoot and kill rifle so ak203 and galil ace are the only good option of sig716.
@@aniketmaity Understood. But we have to give them chance , we have to encourage them otherwise aise hi chalte rahega. Phir hum hi bolenge India ek rifle nahi bana sakti. Gradually they will produce great products.
@@debaldas2685 for that they have to bag small tenders (State police,Crpf) first. Arm forces insas wala risk nahi lena chahta hai. Socho agar kuch problem hua sss defence k rifles main then insas jaisa haal hoga.
@@Adi-yq6kq am I abusing anyone here? Then why are you abusing me?? You can put your point politely here. Mere v pehle same thoughts the sss defence ko lekar but mujhe some analysist ne hi ye information Diya. Are you in defence squad's group??
It's very difficult to say which rifle is the best option. But I feel army should try SSS rifles, TAR rifle and even the Ishapur rifle. If they pass validation trials then place orders for same.
Ishapur rifle recoil is higher than ak203 no comparison it use piston but sig use direct thrust which decrease Life but give lower recoil in case of ishapur use piston increase Life but recoiled is so higer
Ishapur rifle is not up to the mark, SSS defence doesn't have big manufacturing facility and their rifles are not proven. TAR rifle carriers 5.56×45 mm bullets not good for Front line areas. We need shoot and kill rifle so ak203 and galil ace are the only good option of sig716.
@@abhayprasad5319 Trichi rifle is 7.62*39. It's worth a small order, the chances of the enemy is equally high. Even SSS defense although having a small manufacturing should be accommodated to have future growth and potential. With the TAR rifle the the other state and police forces are extremely satisfied. Army is the easiest of the three defenses which can actually go Desi. But it's worst in accommodating Desi stuff. SSS defense Even has a sniper gun, the viper could could a brilliant accommodation. The problem with the Ishapur rifle is the recoil because of the gas mechanism in firing. But every gun in 7.62*51 cal will have high recoil. If a soldier shoots Even with the Ishapur rifle it's more like shoot to kill. Because of the high caliber Even the Sig has a higher recoil and can't be compared with the recoil of even the AK 203.
Galil Ace would be the best option for Indian Army, as it's one of the toughest and modernized version of IMI galil. It's battle proof, reliable and durable at the same time
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In my view the best option is to Extensively test SSS Defense's latest rifles in Desert & Cold atmosphere & induct them in huge numbers if they came out sufficient enough to match SIG Sauces in the tests till then we can continue with AK-203 since they are cheaper than the SIG . Additional SiG sauces should be only given to the soldiers directly engaded with China on LOC while AK203 & SSS can be given to soldiers on Western side or other soldiers.
I think companies like SSS Defence should be encouraged by the Indian armed forces. In a battle situation where there might be threats of sanctions even, there is no replacement for home grown weapons. Atmanirbhar is the way forward. Jai Hind. Jai Maa Bharti. 🇮🇳🇮🇳🇮🇳🇮🇳
We should consider the fact that sig 716i is a heavy caliber rifle and not all soldiers actually need it. While in small squad some soldiers can use this rifle but others can still use good ol aks because the engagement range is not constant in battle. More important than rifles is the need of good and small optics in Indian Army.
Thats what the Indian Army is using it for. Those are not for everyone to be carrying around. SiGs are for marksmen unit and people fighting in higher altitudes where high powered rounds are required
HOPE THAT SSS DEFENCE SOON DEVELOP A GATLING MULTI BARREL MACHINEGUN SIMILAR TO THE US M134 GATLING GUN AS WELL AS A BELT FED GRENADE LAUNCHER. JAI HIND JAI BHARAT.
My favourite is SSS defence 's P 72 series of rifles and Galil Ace series. Well Galil can be said to be Israeli AKM because the internal mechanism is identical to AKM ,AK 203 and INSAS so it will be better suited for Indian army and these Galil Rifles are tested in Indian conditions twice . But still I wish to see SSS defence Rifles in Indian army 's hands
SSS defence doesn't have big manufacturing facility and their rifles are not proven. TAR rifle carriers 5.56×45 mm bullets not good for Front line areas. We need shoot and kill rifle so ak203 and galil ace are the only good option of sig716.
@@Abhishake17 why govt will invest on a private company? They have to set up their own manufacturing plant. Government can't favour any private company. Other wise anti corruption comity will question govt.
Round bada hone ka matlab aacha hamesa nahi hota hai !!! 7.62 * 51 mm ka round bhari hota hai aur recoil high hota hai!! 7.62 *39 mm ka round ka penetration power 5.56 se jyada hota hai bt efdective range kam hota hai , 5.56*45m ka penetration power kaam hota hai bt 400meters tak 7.62 se accha accuracy hota hai and recoil bahut smooth hota hai!!!
Sir! Appreciate your hardwork to make such informative videos. Probably Galil Ace could be the best alternative for the Indian Army. Also, it would be quite interesting if you could make a video on two other Israeli assault rifles, Arad and Carmel, if possible. With regards and best wishes for all future endeavours. Thanking you. Jai Maa Bharati 🙏
That was an awesome video, But there r some problems with the alternatives you guys suggested, if the question is to replace the insas most alternatives mentioned in the video are very accurate. Whereas the options mentioned that could be the alternative of the Sig are not accurate. The sig fires a big .308 round which got some heavy umph behind it, similar high power cartridges have been used during the 2nd world war... but we saw countries down sizing their main ammo, the reason being easier logistics and improved ballistics of the 5.56 ammo due to improvement in technology. And most importantly the studies which conclusively stated the side which fired more bullets won in overwhelming majority of cases... which stated more fire is important than accurate fire (which is already less as accuracy under battle conditions is under 18%). So it is important to carry more ammo, hence 5.56 n 7.62 became the preferred choice for standard issued rifle. But then we saw the need for heavier firing guns too... the accurate guns that can effectively n comfortable shoot past 400m while maintaining strong ballistics, came in the use of few .308 firing rifles in squad, US army adapted SCAR-H n the marine corp used high quality AR-10s shooting .308, I believe thats the reason for adapting the Sig, in the rocky Himalayan terrain where many engagements r beyond 400m, so any alternative of the Sig that shoots smaller than a .308 is not plausible.
Fire power is not everything , with more fire power comes more recoil and weight. The 5.56 *45 mm round is the most accurate with an effective range of 400m. The 7.62*39 has more stopping power but a little less effective range at 300m and higher recoil. The 7.62*51 mm Sig has an effective range of 600m but has higher recoil and the round is heavy and hence comes with a 20 round magazine and is actually a Designated Marksman Rifle not an assualt rifle.
You can also cover rifles by ASTR defence. A suggestion : you can go and visit SSS defence n other rifle factories in india and do an interview cum vlog of the rifles Which will be a superhit video for sure
Sig sauer are the most realible platform period ,they are the most realible gun manfacturer they are the ak made by swiss ,we shloud appreciate the decision of army for buying it all these ammo problem can be easily solved by sss and kalyani group by colabrating with private firms to manfactures 762 51 round suitable for ars
@@400bc.. dont need to show my qualifications to a chapri kid who have holes in his underpant first get some education and dont waste my time ,tum gaddho ko kuch nahi pata hathiyar ke baare me jab chuje the na tum tab se research kar rahe hain ,jyada pubg khel ke apne aap ko expert maat samjho tum gaddho ko ye hi nahi pata hoga ki gun me safety hoti hain
SSS defence doesn't have big manufacturing facility and their rifles are not proven. Agar army k expectations pe stand nahi kiya toh sss defence ka chapter over Ho jayega. That's why Arm forces sss defence ko abhi order nahi de rahe hai. Pehle unko ASMI k bullets and other parts banane do.
Apart5 from range and capabilities of a rifle there are other factors to be noted. Like durability, ware and tear and all weather operatibility and easy handling of it.
Ammo -7.62*51mm range -500 to 800mtrs Ace by plr & sss defence P-72 would hav been de best deal than AK 203 of russi wit low range of 400-500mtrs but good rate of fire per minute
India ko new gun buy karni chaahiye jash mein 7.62×45 ke bullet ka use ho, ye bullet 7.62×51 ki comparison main kam recall force generate Karega or effective bhi hoga.
Ak203 & SSS Defence best way forward, Joint develop a long range sniper with Israel. important of all, focus should also be on night vision and long range lens to be developed Indegenously. SSS upgrade kit is an intelligent way to enhance the existing rifles with other combat forces like CRPF, state police, RPF's etc.
JAI HIND...INSAS ka jo problem hai ki woh 3 round Burst Mode se Fully Automatic Mode pe chali jaati hai usually solution nikalke usey Indian Army ko dia jay...JAI HIND
Great Video Sir. As you mentioned the SSS rifle you said has a effective range of 800 mts and sig716I has a range of 500 mts. So why doesn't the Army choose rifles from SSS, why sig716 ??? I have even watched other videos where SSS has different rifles that can be chosen from. Aren't they good rifles (SSS) ???
The SSS defence 7.62 nato is DMR version of the rifle it has to fire at 700+ mtr . Meanwhile the Sig716i is battle rifle version , its effective range should be from 300m to 700m . Although it has its DMR version , but the RFI was for BR not DMR . Also SSS Defence rifle might be a little heavy since it uses short stroke mechanism , plus it should be more expensive. But it would definitely have lesser recoil , less maintenance and cleaning whereas in case Sig Sauer its opposite , since it uses Direct Impingement which requires more cleaning and is subjected to more carbon fouling since gases and powder is released in the receivers . Each has pros and cons .
One of the reasons for adopting the Sig 716i was the increased range and higher lethality. Since our army operates in a multitude of terrains like mountains, deserts, jungle, and even urban warfare, we will need two different cartridges. The 7.62 NATO is good for long distance engagements, like the ones we might encounter in a war against China & Pakistan in the Himalayas or Pakistan in the Thar desert and flat plains of Punjab. This was noticed in Afghanistan by the US Army where they're switching to the 6.8x51mm for higher armor penetration and range. The 7.62x39 and 5.56x45 are excellent for close quarters combat in Jungles and urban warfare situation; also noticed by the US army in Vietnam. Having one battle rifle and one assault rifle might be better one than replacing all with one type of caliber unlike the US army as this would be a cheaper and less riskier option compared to adopting a new caliber, although this may cause a logistics issue in a full scale war.
First time I saw your video and felt it not at all researched....fire power and letgality of rifle is best depending on caliber of barrel of Ammo used. It is easily changeable. Actually different barrel sizes by manufacturer are selected depending on doctrine of army of the country.
A modernized version of SLR (FN FAL) with these features is the best possible replacement of Sig-716 Rifle :- (1) Picatinny Rails (2) A 16 to 17-inch Barrel (3) Full-Auto Mode (4) Foldable & Extractable Butt stock
7.62x51 mm Cartridge has Very high Recoil, It's heavy and Really expensive 5.56x45 .300 Blackout 7.62x39 Cartridges are good options. In my opinion ,I would suggest AAC Honey Badger, SSS P72 Recr,MK18CQBR,Mark16Mod0.
@@the_lost_horizon India need to maintain a Logistical synergy with the Ammunition available. Buying & production of entirely new Ammo won't make Logistical & economic sense. IA is trying to adopt Ak-203 as the Std Assault rifles & it is chambered in 7.62x39mm
There is the question about in which part of conflict or in which geographical part the rifle is going to be used in. Standard Assault rifle means it’s versatile and can be used in any battlefield but it won’t be the best. US forces in Middle Eastern desert loves the G3 too much, so they bought some Scar 17s to fill the gap, can be used if the engagement distance was, let’s say 600 metres. We have to get a standard infantry assault rifle in 5.56 or 7.62 intermediate and make sure we have some battle rifles in reserve when needed. US army is moving towards 6.8 remington cartridge as it fills the gap better between a battle rifle and an assault rifle. US future military doctrine is rock solid though, they really are moving in the right direction, one rifle for every soldier, for every situation. One fighter jet for every role. Saves a lot of money and boosts production.
I have little different opinion. Since Sig sauger is 7.62 rifle and government want to replace it then they will do it with 7.62 rifle but you showed some rifle with different caliber. I would include Tavor 7, Galil ACE 52/52L, OFB 7.62 rifle in your list
Given the range SSS p-72 has better range compared to other rifles and it should be seriously considered. If mass production is the problem then buy the rifle tech from SSS and take manufacturing to Ordinance Factory or form a consortium with SSS to manufacture the rifle. If not SSS we should go for Galil ace thats next best low recoil and good range but we still be dependent on foreign countries.
AK203 is the best. If integrated sniper-weapon digital systems can be fitted on AK203, that'll be a deadly best for both urban, close-quarter-combat as well as front-line defence.
India should emphasize on the development of its indigenous good quality assault rifles, which will not only reduce our dependence on imports but we will also be able to export them.
Use M80 ball round or m118LR 175gr BTHP round in sig 716! for better accuracy n range . 7.62x39 can't be as good as 762 NATO round. That has shorter range n inaccurate in range very law ballistic coefficient and very law supersonic range as compared to 7.62 NATO. Use 6.5 Grendel 123gr BTHP v-2620feet/s round instead of 762x39 the Grendel has same same ballistic coefficient as 308/762 NATO round (0.511 Grendel vs 0.525 in 762 NATO) with approx same velocity and supersonic distance of greater than 1100yard . With much less recoil than 7.62 NATO round. (i suggest our army to work on 6.5 Grendel too) jai hind 🇮🇳jai bharat
The problem with sig 716 in india is that it is being used with 7.62mm ammunition which was designed for the 7.62 mm MMG, which is high powered rounds, a lot of propellant that is. This ensure that the mmg is effective at longer distances, say even 1900m Now the sig 716 is an assault rifle, whose range is generally around 400-500m range. Which requires very low propellant as compared to the ones being used on ground. Hence the 'high recoil' problem and inaccuracy. This is the reason why sig 716 gets too much gate.
No country can be really free if it is dependent on foreign weapons. SSS is by far looks the best bet in terms of R&D and capabilities. See how quick they were to offer an AR based rifle. This flexibility of lesser turnaround time can only come with an Indian manufacturer.
SSS and ACE i think we can bcs they are cheap and best. 7.62 51mm is best option for all, purpose in J&K or for border bcs we need to kill no second chance.
I think india should go with AK series because it has proven in war and any conflict in world moreover it already familier with Army. Just fast the process to occure AK
Bro, Is there any kind of bullet in India which can hit a person while wearing a bullet proof vest as American has developed this type of technology and they have this type of bullet.
