Food for thought... For breakbarrels... Artillery hold for all break barrels and don't hold tight. This gets more important with the magnum-powered airguns (like the Benjamin Trail NP XL) which is why you shot the Titan better than the NP XL. Blue Lock-tite your set screws/stock screws and scope ring screws on breakbarrels. (Do not overtightened screws, use Lock-tite) Otherwise, they will back out from vibration of firing. This will F.U.B.A.R. your accuracy. Changing the brand and or weight of the pellet will change your point of impact and you will need to re-zero your scope each time you make a change. This is true for all types. Consistent pellet placement in breach (which also improves accuracy)) when loading and ease of loading (especially in the field) is greatly improved by using a pellet pen. Bent skirts do not help your accuracy ;-) Practice being consistent. Use only air-rifle rated scopes on a break-barrel, otherwise you will trash your firearm scope long before you break in your rifle... Probably within 20 shots on a magnum springer. Yes, break-barrels do have a "break-in" period.... After a few hundred shots you will see a lot more consistency with both springers and gas-pistons, alike (also true with PCPs, especially those with regulators)... Which also improves accuracy... Another part of "breaking-in" your air rifle includes "leading in" your barrel, which will likely take 300-500 pellets. I was, at first, disappointed with the accuracy of my first break-barrel and super frustrated at constantly zero-ing my scope, etc.... Then I learned. My fave inexpensive break-barrel is the Benjamin Trail NP (non -XL) with polymer stock.. Using a gas-piston means you can charge rifle (cocked and ready) for long periods of time (which you cannot do with traditional springers) and cold weather does not negativity influence power. After addressing the things I have disclosed in this comment, Turned out that my Trail NP was very accurate (for the price point) and got smoother to cock and even quieter. I went from super frustrated with a good bit of buyer's remorse to very happy to have a consistently accurate, quiet and enjoyable air rifle - easily worth 30% more than I paid for it. Not a short comment, but if you are new to air rifles... You now know much of what I wish I knew when I bought my first break-barrel. P.S. While PCPs allow you to use a "regular" hold you still don't want to hold it tight as you would a firearm. Peace.
My Benjamin trail np xl .25cal has had so many issues. It's gone thru multiple air rifle rated scopes. Every screw on the stock loosens up and the whole barrel and piston move around in the stock every 25 shots. This is due to the wood stock being too soft and the screw holes that go thru the wood wobble out easily. Maybe the polymer stock is a better fitment and stronger. I always inspect and take good care of it but its just poorly made for such a strong rifle. New issue I found is the cap on the back of the piston right about where your face rest on the stock is separating from the housing I wouldn't be surprised it the gun blows apart some day. It's like putting a big block in a honda civic, fun for a minute but the chassis isn't gonna last very long. My grandfather was a Olympic air pistol shooter and he taught me the ins and outs of air guns so I do know what I'm doing. Benjamin made a big mistake with the np xl .25, like they just wanted the fame of one of the most powerful break action rifles but didn't care about much else. Yeah it's powerful but you can't hit much accurately. I bought the gun for hunting but never got it accurate enough to take it. Maybe I'm just use to German made match grade guns. 🤔. My kids red riders are seriously more accurate than my np xl. Sorry for the long message but I can relate to your frustration. It's too late for mine but I'm glad you got yours figured out.
When I was a kid like you guys, I had a Daisey 880. It taught me how to stalk game to get close enough to be effective. And I was deadly with it. I recently bought a Hatsan 95 QE. I can do quarter size groups at 35 yards with it. The wiring in my boat is safe from the red squirrels. If they show their face in my yard, they are toast!
I grew up in the very Rural deep woods of Kentucky , and I learned to shoot and hunt with a Daisy 880 without a scope. Even after my Father allowed me to use his Winchester 22LR , I would still choose the 880 for specific tasks , for example our Garden was getting destroyed by some kind of animal , so I camped out on the back porch all night long with the 880 , the Garden was about 40 to 60 yards downhill from the porch . After staying up all night being very quiet and watching for something to happen , just after the crack of Dawn I spotted three Rabbits very cautiously advancing from the creek area towards the Garden , as I began to slowly pump the lever for ten strokes the Rabbits would freeze and perk up their ears , so first I shot the one that was the farthest away , when I did the other two froze and perked there ears . Within a time frame of less than 5 minuets there were three dead Rabbits , and that's just one of many times the 880 proved to be Deadly accurate and Lethal , so for these guys to dismiss the 880 & the Crossman 760 as not even an option , makes me dismiss them as either stupid , dishonest or both.
You will usually get better accuracy with those break barrel guns using an artillery hold. For more information, the reason you do not want a supersonic pellet is it destabilizes when it crosses the sound barrier as it slows down. Airguns shooting pellets (not slugs) are more accurate at subsonic speeds.
What’s the artillery hold for an air gun? Asking for a friend lol. No bs I’m a combat vet of Afghanistan and I love shooting long range and have done some cool stuff. Just looking for a simpler and easier way to have fun little shooting challenges with my buds in the yard. It’s hard to find a place to go shoot 2000 yards with my precision rifle on a regular basis much less afford it.
@@matthew5027 It is the same for any gun, but it is not something they teach us anymore because it isn't really useful for most combat shooting. Artillery hold has the forearm of the rifle resting on an open palm with your elbow down. The point is to not put a lot of pressure on the stock and to just let it rest on the palm of your support hand. Then the gun can do whatever it wants when it fires which will be somewhat consistent as long as you minimize your influence. Break barrel airguns are particularly susceptible to being influenced by grip because of the linkage below the barrel. I do a similar thing when I shoot from a lead sled or a bag. I never strap the front of my rifles down and instead, let them recoil however they want and my support hand is on the butt of the stock and support arm is helping solidify my base.
Loved them stacking them all in a pile, then waving them around at one another. . Great role models for gun safety. . Gives me great confidence in any of their opinions on rifles.
I have the Umarex Gauntlet. It’s awesome, a little heavy but so quite and accurate. I hunt rabbit and squirrels with it. You can also buy a special hand pump for pcp air rifles. That’s how I fill my tank, it’s work but worth it.
This was really cool. I would liked to have seen more footage of you guys shooting the rifles, but definitely would love to see you do more videos with air rifles. Good work guys.
I honestly love this video and have probably shared it to over 30 people, I’m a huge gun guy but with ammo prices the way they are I got back into air guns. I would love for you guys to make another with air rifles! Honestly this same format! Almost everyone I shared this video with bought an air rifle!
For ~$365 my Hatsan 155 Torpedo is a beast. Underlever, nitrogen piston, .25 caliber, adjustable trigger, very consistent accuracy, delivers great energy on target with H&N Barracuda Hunter 27.47 gr pellets (never even felt a need to try a different pellet), easy to make hits with a $70 Tasco 3-9x shotgun scope for an optic, and looks like something you'd take on safari. The only downside is it weighs as much as a rifle you'd take on safari, but I've gotten used to its heft. It does engage the safety when cocked, but the selector is right under thumb just below the scope's eyepiece.
Hard to beat my $72 Crossman 10/22, gets 84 shots (7mags x12 shots) per co2, army men fear me @20 yrds. And without a scope you can hit penny sized targets with a little practice.Thanks for another fun review, guys. Stay Safe Everyone!
You mean Crosman 1077. 1022 is by Umarex. Crosman 1077 sucks due to heavy double action only trigger. 1022 sucks for weird CO2 housing. Best is CO2 rifle is QB78 (new one with magazine) as you can easily modify to take external CO2 tank also.
Great video! Love how you guys narrow it down while sharing the nuances of each. Now for a low to mid level PCP gun battle...then go for a high powered PCP battle.
Something to note with the PCP is you can buy a hand pump for about 50 bucks. It takes some effort to fill the tank on the gun back up but it's much cheaper than a SCUBA tank(or SCBA since they are much lighter) and it's something you can always have with you.
Velocities are measured on composit pellets, not lead pellets. The composit pellets, such as gamo red fire or blue flame, are lighter and will reach said velocities advertised by these brands. Any other pellet compositions will be slower
Part 2 of 2. A real sleeper is the (Daisy) Winchester 1100S. A Walmart special under $70. Wow, I was so impressed I bought three more. Since I prefer open sights, the sights on the 1100S are crisp. (Fiber optic sights make me want to puke.) The rear sight has a numbered elevation knob and after dialing in at 35 yards, you can quickly dial to say 65 yards and back down. No problem hitting golf balls at 65 yards with open sights. For an air gun to be accurate you need several things, such as the right pellet, good sights, proper hold, mussel memory, breathing and knowing the personality of the gun.
I have the Gauntlet in .177 and .25 great guns. Did a recalibration on the reg. The .177 is at 967 fps now and .25 at 900. The big thing with air guns is finding the right pellet. I tried some cheap ones from Big-5 had 7 inch groups at 30 yards. With JSB pellets sub 1/2" for 8 rounds at 30yds.
Some other things to consider in the buying equation have to do with the cost of normal accessories. If you are buying a pre-charged pneumatic (PCP) air rifle you may want a hand pump rather than a SCUBA tank. If it has a magazine, you'll want to buy spares. If you prefer an optic, you'll also need a mount and rings. Check out the price totals, before you make the decision.
@edwardschlosser1 Adults?, spend thousands of $ on all kind of NOT AT ALL WORTH IT SCHITZEN, if yeh look at what the cost to make an air rifle is, even the pretty pricey " much over $1,000 I think is pricey, then as you said assessories, I recently looked into pcp's cause I wanted to get familiar with what I saw the FLA varmint, invasive, hunters were using, and I'm thinking are they for real, and some are'nt that good a shot, or what I'd call a very good basic hunter either, but they could get there, Ayuh
Big bore air guns like the air force Texan .457 cal or .50 cal would have a five shot capacity air bottle. You would look very stupid going back to your car every five shots for a refill from your "Benjamin traveler". I bet you don't even own that cheap compressor.
@edwardschlosser1 PCPs are kids toys also. I like my G2 Magnum .22 break barrel because I own real guns and don't want to drop $1000 on a kids toy to kill pests. Let's face it all air rifles are technically for kids and felons. For $1000 I could get a decent .270 or .306 with a Leupold and drop deer at 300 yds plus.
@@PHUCKyoutube689 Heya, so, let's say, hypothetically, of course, and totally unrelated to the current SHTF situation... a single lady with no license and a couple hundred bucks, was looking for a little something that would be good for rabbits if food scarcity became that necessary, and moreso, if not for taking out, at least significantly slowing down an intruder of the zombie apocalypse variety.... any suggestions? Would be greatly appreciated, Cheers
The selection of airguns these days is incredible. Pricing is interesting too, you can commonly find guns from like $100 to well into several thousand range which is wild. Springer Airguns as you found are generally harder to shoot accurately with the exception of a few models like the tx200. Springers are also really hard on scopes and most of the scopes that come on them are garbage so when you go to buy a replacement scope make sure it's airgun rated. PCPs are great and if you are willing to pay $400-500 Benjamin makes some really good guns. You didn't mention calibers, for plinking.177 is good, but for hunting .22 is much better.
There are exceptions to most rules . I have a Daystate Huntsman Midas that will put out 1 hole groups out to 20 to 25 yards. It easily outshoots the tx200 - I have both and more. The Rws 54 will shoot better than the tx200 because it's practically recoilless. But it's a scope eater. I have it in .177 and .22. To each their own. Lastly, most springers will outlast the gas rams. Hatsan had a failure rate at close to 50%. Maybe it's better now? Usually when I Shoot I grab my Daystate - it's light , powerful and accurate with reliability on top. A natural shooter. These conclusions come from 35 to 40 years of shooting and many arms , daisys all the way to .338 mag , including muzzleloaders.Bows and crossbows too.
You can uncock a break action barrel once its cocked & ready to fire, guys. Just hold the barrel down in half where you cocked it, pull the trigger & you'll feel pressure on the barrel, & then ease the folded barrel slowly back up to its regular position. Easy peasy. That's how you take the load off the spring from being cocked. ✌
All of the final picks are good choices, depending on what you need it for. I use a few different Crosman classics, my favourite is a 2250 XL, slightly modified, a 1322 and a 1377 with stock and 14.5" barrels. They are like the ruger 10/22 of air guns, lots of good aftermarket parts to upgrade, customize and modify
@Niccolò De Parma Panini Of quiet is a big deal, someone already suggested a crossbow... but, I already have a compound bow... so there's that. For a air-rifle... I would go with a PCP... . A 30 cal or higher is a better bet, 60+ fpe for head shots is pretty good, I would think. Some will use a .25 with 45-50 fpe... I, personally, would look at a .357 .45... Something like a Benjamin Bulldog, Air Force Texan, etc... more than you need... Take hogs too.
I've owned a Gamo for more than 20 years. 100% reliable AND I discovered that's it's more accurate (I can shoot a tighter group) with the factory iron sight than with a scope.
I trust my rust iron sights alot more than a scope I have 2 nun fancy tho I have an old Winchester springer and never noticed a huuuge difference it was ever so slight
Likely bad scope. Note regular scopes are risky on air guns at least springers as tbey bave 2 way recoil. Low cost .22 types are often not braced internly well.
I think it's because the iron sights are mounted on the barrel (which moves every time you cock it) and the scope is mounted go the receiver behind the barrel.
Diana Never Makes A Bad Copy Of Break Barrel In My Honest Opinion, Use Proper Artillery Hold When Shooting It. Dont Just Rest It On Something And Then Expect Accuracy.
I like how you laid them all out with the barrels pointing toward you so when you took them off the table you swept your buddies with the business end of the barrel. Single. Moms have no clue
They must have decided to do this after a few drinks. I hear a lot of slurring and yes...the muzzle awareness is atrocious. My evil self wanted to see the middle guy get hit in his junk by a negligent discharge.
This was the exact review of what I was in the market for. I’m the “sit in the grass with a brick of .22’s and a 1939 pioneer single shot…” kinda guy… good thing you pointed out the sound, ida gone as fast as I could, why not? Now I know why
Having been researching air rifles for a while now I can tell you a couple things about the RWS 34. Yes, every once in a while a "bad" one may slip through QC, however, study shows that the problems are most often with the user. Slight variations of hold make a HUGE difference. Weight and shape of pellet makes a big difference. Break in makes a difference. So, if you haven't cleaned it, fired it cleaned it fired it etc. don't expect it to perform. I haven't plunked down my duckets yet, but if I was going with a spring air, the 34 would still be tops on my list. The only reason its not my choice is I'm electing for a gas piston because I like to leave my rifle charged (old habits, that's what you always did with a Sheridan).
@@Hornet135 Handle em like the unloaded toys they are. These guys shoot real guns that sight in many times further than the 30yds you play with these airguns at. I have a Gamo myself and when its onloaded it toss its plastic trash self in the corner of the closet. It's good fun in the backyard when I can't get out to the range but the whole things worth less than my cheapest set of scope rings on a real rifle.
Guys the velocity IS important. You just have to read. If you use the alloy pellets you are going to get the advertised speed which will break sound barrier. Use heavier pellets and it will be subsonic. You just gotta get the right pellets for your gun.
You left out Hatsan Model 135 in .22 caliber. $200. Extremely accurate and a legitimate 1,000 feet per second. As far as taking out small game it can do everything a .22 rimfire can at 30 yards. Except it's really quiet. In that respect it does more.
I've owned many spring-piston air rifles i.e. FWB, Weihrauch, and some less expensive ones. One thing I've learned is that you cannot gauge accuracy until you have fired at least 100 shots from a new rifle using the the same pellet. Even the cheaper ones are pretty accurate if they have the front and rear sight mounted on the barrel because the alignment will always be the same. Try different pellets, all rifles will shoot better with a particular pellet.
@@acester86 Forgot about the Red Rider and the 10 pumpers, they knocked off the list early, my bad. The break barrels aren't "supposed" to shoot BB's although I have tried it with my Gamo. Worked fine they just don't stay in the barrel very well.
My favorite air gun I own is the Hatsan supercharger 25. .177 cal, gas chamber break barrel PISTOL. Rated on the box up to 700 fps. It has been dubbed "The James Bond" I own 7 airguns. 4 of them I consider fairly "high power" Check out the Umarex Steel Storm. It a fully auto co2 bb gun capable of emptying a 30 round chamber in about 2 seconds with co2 and bb reservoir capacity to go through about 5 chambers. Its a fun shoot. Then there is the Swiss Arms TG1 break barrel rifle I buy at Walmart. Up to 1400 fps on the box. Its fun to shoot rocks as pellets simply dissolve on impact. Just add a Ruger Impact Max Elite to my collection. Up to 1050 fps 22 cal break barrel rifle from Walmart again. Have a crossman multi pump m4-177 also. Not "high power "but it looks like an bonified m4 assault rifle. It shoots bbs or pellets. Its really pretty wimp at up to 450 fps. Its fun cause it accurate and look very scary. Air gunning is more interesting to me because there are no chemicals or sorcery. Just compress air and let it rip. 200 rounds of ammo take as much space as twenty 22 cal bullets and probably weigh less also.
PCP is the way to go, I highly recommend the Benjamin marauder for a good entree level airgun, it comes with a scope and hand pump around 400$ but definitely worth it, big game changer ( I have .25cal and it definitely has the knockdown power to take out any good sized “game”)
Great video and just what I needed. Thanks for cutting through the fluff and getting to it!!! Only thing of note is practicing good firearm safety discipline and having barrels pointing away on the table, etc.
LOL! Someone finally pointed that out and I thought surely I mustn't be the only one to notice! How many gun barrels are pointed at the RU-vidrs?! It reminds me of one of The Simpsons episodes.
The thing is air rifles, like conventional rifles, will have a different size group vs the shape and weight of the pellet. You need to get different brands and weight to see which one your rifle like better.
Gamo Varmint is very accurate with the right pellets, Using Crosman premier Match grade .177cal 7.9 gr. after sighting my Tasco Air 3-9X40 scope I shot a 3/8" group at 15 yards. It shoots most pellets good but the .117Cal 7,9 grain flat nose is by far the best, and with that little extra weight it has will go through a 1" spruce board, The trigger is not good at all, on the Varmint, but take your time and it dose shoot great groups.
I recommend you get an O-ring kit and replace the O-ring that sits between the break action barrel & the stock. Most of the time the factory o-ring is not the proper one & there is air/pressure loss at that connection point, causing erratic/inconsistent shots. A tighter seal will help your shots.
You missed the BEST...the Seneca Aspen PCP! It puts out 36 ft/lb of energy & has a built-in under-lever pump & is available in both .22 & .25 cal for ONLY $300!!!!
I was told years ago by an online company they recommend keeping the fps around 800-900 for accuracy. I don't see how more drop makes it more accurate than 1,000 - 1,100 fps. My RWS was very accurate and had a velocity of 1,100. Maybe higher velocity creates more tumble but I will take that any day for general distance shooting. Competition shooters may, for this reason, go with lower velocities since they are shooting at set distances.
Thank you gentlemen, I'm down here south of Salt Lake. I'm a big gun and air enthusiast. Great video and information. Huge thumbs up. I just ordered a Hatson, I thought I would give one of those a try and add it to the collection. Thanks again...
Hey guys, You are on to something big with this channel. I see it 1 million + in 2-3 years Whoever is prepping content knows their shit, this is a well laid out "show" type channel
Liked the presentation from the 3 of you and the many comments below....BUT....I almost clicked off at the start up with the music, "you don't need it at all", glad it trailed off and completely stopped in a minute, then you had me!
I had one of the Gamo Swarms and the weird little plastic piece on top of the barrel that you put the magazine in broke off after about 100 shots. Never dropped it or banged it on anything, just broke and fell off. Super cheap made rifles..wouldn't personally recommend one for anything. Ended up buying a Hatsan 95 and it was actually cheaper at around $150 but built way better. Turkish walnut stock, German steel parts, excellent 2 stage trigger..has hundreds and hundreds of pellets through it, super accurate, and has killed a ton of squirrels in the past few years. For the money I would take it over anything on that table
Yeah, I bought a Gamo Shadow Whisper at Walmart and I only used it six times (I didn't bang it around, I didn't drop it, I didn't do anything to damage it) and one day I got it out of its case and tried to cock it and the spring wouldn't activate when I cocked the barrel no matter how many times I tried. It didn't lock all the way down like it did either. I'm not going to buy a Gamo break barrel again.
i've had a .25 caliber gauntlet for about 2 years . i'll be 60 in 2 weeks and i fill mine with a $40 hivbee hand pump . took about 320 pumps to fill from 0-3000 psi and about 100 pumps to fill from 2.2k back to 3k and i get 24 consistent velocity shots . it's very accurate with the right pellets ! i also have a 2001 real german made diana 34 in .177 . the new china made 34 sold by umarex are not equal to the older german ones . it is a nice gun but the constant cocking and recoil make them much more challenging to shoot than the PCP/gauntlet . thanks for sharing your thoughts and take care , jeff
@@midwesternwelds1197 i got mine in october of 2019 and i think it was 220 or 230 at sportsmans guide . it has never leaked and the china hand pump still works . the last time i shot the gauntlet and used the hivbee pump was about 3 months ago . i got the diana off craigslist for $75 !!!
Recently bought the gamo wildcat .22 and I actually really like it. Its way more accurate than I thought it would be and the .22 has more than enough size and power for smallish game.
anyone get nervous how all the barrels are facing them while filming? face them away from you at all times -- loaded or not. treat every weapon as if it were loaded
Bet you are fun at parties. They probably all safety checked and had them all fine and dandy. Plus setting them all up nice and pretty just to get rid of like 14 em is a pain in the ass
@@colonialf7047 handling guns like toys and not following basic basic gun safety laws is irresponsible. Spin it however you want. Ask anyone who ever instructed firearms training or was properly taught by responsible teachers and they'll tell you this video it is full of irresponsibility. Anyone who argues otherwise is FOS
At the 8:05 mark of this video your review the Beeman R52. I went to the Beaman website and I do not see R 52. It appears that this gun may have a multi pellet port. Is this correct? Does this gun Go by a different name? I like the Woodstock and the extra sound may not bother me. Please update this guns review
I know you probably checked all the rifles on the table to make sure they were not loaded, but why would you have the business end pointing at you. You know the rule. Never point the muzzle end of any fire arm at any time at a person or something you want to destroy. Otherwise it was a good video.
For accuracy with a break barrel you need the following: tight screws, clean barrel, artillery hold and finding the right pellet. If noise is an issue, then a suppressor, such as from Buck Rail does great job and you don't need a tax stamp! You raise a valid point; anything above 850FPS is more noise.
I would take the TX200 for a break barrel first then the Umarex if you have the air source. I started with most of those break barrels and they are good for what they cost. I now have and shoot mostly PCP's, Taipan veteran .22 and .25 cal, Kalibrgun cricket .25 cal, Benjamin P-rod. A break barrel airgun would be a go to gun because its self contained and you do not have to lug around air tanks compressor, etc.
This is a good video..sound selections with real market availability and sound user options..I knew just what they were talking about Good choices..I love my tx200..but its a boat anchor..and ridiculous to carry afield.... I'm always worried about scratches..so yes a plastic stock on a springer is a good choice.. I like the rifle weight to be appropriate to the projectile..thats just me..I like the video..nice post..thanks guys .safe shoot'n
I personally have owned Gamo products for years now, with my latest purchase being the Magnum G2 in 22 cal, and other than the immense force that it took me to “cock” with the break barrel the first few months, I must say that it is quite the beast. I can’t speak as to the customer service of any of the other companies, but the reason I have continued to stick with Gamo is for that very reason. I even busted the front site off one of my rifles, and they had a replacement in the mail before receiving the return. I would probably agree with the half dollar comment, but I’ve yet to come across an animal whose “kill zone” was smaller than a half dollar. As for the so called “sound barrier” noise? Well I again don’t know for sure if my gun actually shoots 1,300 FPS, but I can tell you that I’ve shot it in my back yard hundreds of times (safely), and have yet to have anyone even step outside to see what was going on??
With backyard shooting in the city I want a gun that has more control over it's power yet has a reasonable level of power. I have a powerline 880 but it isn't that accurate after 20'. The one I had 40 years ago was spot on from across the yard. Still within an inch after 50'. I guess they don't make them like they used to.
He's right about the Maxxim. I own a .177 Gen 2. It's quiet and shoots fairly accurate at 25 yards (nickel size groups). It's more than enough gun for my backyard needs. The pellet supply is abundant in my area. I've put about 1,000 shots through it. A mixture of Gamo Red Fire & Gamo Silent Cat. It's been a damn good good air rifle so far. I plink soda cans and spinners every other day. The squirrel & starling population has taken a dive as well. 😆
Most break-barrel spring air guns have both open sights on the barrel..thus the sights will always be properly aligned with the barrel once it's sighted in. The problem with barrel misalignment with the receiver on break-barrel spring guns comes in with scopes when they are mounted on the usual location of the receiver. Also a possible issue with scope-equipped spring air guns is scope creep from the recoil effect of the spring. Special mounts are available to avoid that issue..as well as airgun-specific scopes which are resistant to the back/forth shock of the spring. Not so much an issue with pump-up or C02 powered airguns.
Type of pellets can make a great difference in accuracy. The .22 cal is the best for Back yard pest control. Also noise is a big factor. Normally 12 ft lbs is needed for most pesting. Break barrels are very hard on scopes.
You can buy high pressure hand PCP pumps, they're about $150 and they look like an upside down bicycle pump. They are a bit of work to use, but it also means you have infinite refills and you can use your rifle on a whim.
What kind of pellets are y'all using? I have a Benjamin trail in .22 and accuracy is horrible. I have rechecked the scope mounting did the trigger job thing and grouping still sucks.
Also most importantly is get a “1-Piece” scope mount on any dovetail rail system! Obviously a new scope as well. UTG are the best for break barrels either 3x9-40 or a BugBuster about $100-$110, however... you can get a clone BugBuster for like $45 that is more than adequate for budget breakers like Crosman/Benjamin.
@@greg6162 Could you possibly give more in for that 'clone' BugBuster. I'm in the market for a scope as close to $50-$60 as I can get & am looking for recommendations.
By the looks of it, that Air arms underlever is actually a HW97k from Weihrauch. They make some high quality competition air rifles. It's the best of the bunch you got there.
I have a gamo and when i first got it it was all over the place i developed a siezure disorder and when i got better i went shooting with my AR and AK and i realized i had a serious problem im no longer steady i had to learn to adapt to my new shakieness i hadnt had a pellet or bb gun since i was probably 13 i was in academy and impulse bought it with 1000 pellets and now i shoot it religiously every saturday and sunday i started at 25 yards and it was all over the place i was very disappointed i thought it was the gun it was so bad i think it possibly "broke in some" or i got my shakiness back under control hard for me to say but i sit out there now and shoot 100-500 pellets a weekend and 9 out of 10 i hit my half dollar swinging target from about 40 yards its a good little gun and its helped me get alot of my accuracy back
wow,, big difference in USA and UK. Most of the guns shown would not even be considered in the UK. For a Cheaper springer we would usually go for a Weihrauch 99s then step up to a Weihrauch 97k or AA TX 200. Most pest control is done with PCP rifles.
Roy Williamson I bought a TX 200 here in the US and love it. I've seriously been considering getting the 97K next, mainly because it's fully ambidextrous and I can get a moderator for it.
In South Africa prices of guns are a bit hiked due to importing and the better quality guns like Weihrarch and others are not very common... But I love my Hatsan and my Artemis. Would love to get a gauntlet or the new Avenger but don't know where to find it for a descent price over here...
But if you had to, you know if it was an emergency, no way around it type scenario. Like if you are your town’s Atticus Finch, and the neighbors cat is rabid, and the Sheriff comes to you in desperation because you are the only one who can do it. In that scenario, now you know which pellet gun would be best.
They completely misrepresented fps label. That is with industry standard light alloy pellet. It's not realistic but it is consistent. When shooting actual pellets, match heavier weight with more power to slow them down to about 800 fps. That is good stable velocity for pellets.
Kinda got into air guns this year as a bit more suburban backyard friendly. So... a couple of things. Air guns are notoriously finicky w/regards to pellets. Trying one or two different pellets might not indicate the air guns true potential. Sometimes ya gotta try more than a few to find the one.😉 Also heavier pellets often better for pesting. As mentioned in an earlier comment, gotta pay attention to how ya hold a Springer or Gas Piston air rifle. A consistent!!! loose hold, (“artillery” hold) can be helpful.
The one gun you couldn’t get to shoot accurately, the Diana 34 is the oldest most reliable, accurate and dependable rifle for backyard hunting. The problem is that you have to find the right pellet and scope. The TX is an excellent gun but way too heavy and expensive for plinking. If you want to try out a springer that is way up there with the German and English springers try out the Cometa Fénix 400 in 177 , powerful, accurate and a flat shooter with the right pellets.
The air venture avenger Pcp in the same price range is the gauntlet. But if your theme picked my favorite kind of overall it’s a PCP air arms dreamline. Thanks 🙏
