Definitely think they need to start considering bike only times -- and even bike only days. Mixing bikes and cars at high speeds on any circuit is pretty dangerous.
Comedic Sketches Why are you saying that motorcycle crashes are the only crashes that happen due to stupidity, watch any compilation of the tourist times and almost all of the crashes happen because of idiots going too fast or trying some stupid tricks like drifting. They should make bike only days because when a biker falls over they have nothing to protect them from that 2000kg bmw driving a bit too close. Car drivers usually just don't think that their car can turn a biker into a pancake that easily. And why are you saying mixed "race days", when the point of touristenfahrten isn't about racing and laptiming but letting anyone go circle the track.
In this video the driver who pushed him outside wasn't a BMW driver. There's dangerous drivers with all kind of cars and the worst are the ones that don't care about the most fragile. Pedestrian, Cyclist and bikers.
@@comedicsketches Except I do agree the grease and spillage from cars is the motorcycles worst enemy so maybe cars should have to pass an inspection before they are allowed on the track.
@@topisiintovaara6579 due to it being touristenfahrten rules apply of the public road. Yes I think there should be some days which are solely to bikes throughout the year it wouldn't stop the whole issue because most of the time it's just a public road.
@@davidhunternyc1 theoretically every car that goes out on the track has to meet the German requirements for a road safe vehicle due to it being a public road. That's what the tracks argument would be anyway against any additional checking.
Ian P They are both in the wrong. The rules of the 'ring say you have to pass on the left, ergo the cars giving way should pull right. The Audi saw the biker, but pulled to the wrong side of the track (they indicated and pulled left) which caught the rider out.
Tom Jackson wer sagt, dass der audi fahrer in den rückspiegel sieht in diesem moment ?!?!? er ist ein rennstrecken neuling und ist mit anderen dingen beschäftigt !! Eines ist trotzdem klar.... der schnellere muss auf den langsameren acht geben und nicht umgekehrt !!!! Der biker sieht ja den autofahrer (gottseidank) schon lang vorher und fahrt trotzdem vollgas weiter und nachdem ist für mich dann der biker der dumme weil er hatte so viel zeit zu reagieren und er fahrt einfach weiter ....absolut thumbs down !!!!!
that biker is a pilot ! He doesn't drive his bike he is flying it above tarmac ! real talent and accurate instinct ! doesn't get much better than this ! respect from a Greek !
Cracking footage dude, but not sure why you got pissed at the geezer in the A3 - it's your responsibility to pass safely, not his to look in his rear view mirror as he enters the turn.
@@Chris-xl6pd how is that brain dead? If he was riding like that on the road, you, and a million others would say "go ride like that on a track". He's a really talented rider, just stop criticising.
because he knows bikers cant easily brake if he caught them by surprise, whereas it's easier for cars to suddenly brake to give space especially on turns when bikes are angled. Stupid cage drivers don't know shit, talk shit.
ddxjon using your own reasoning, he should not have attempted an overtake in a corner with a car. Can easily overtake in the straight where he is so much faster and has better grip instead of rising the accident and something the car driver.
the car broke harder than he shouldve slowing down to a point its dangerous to those behind him. He didnt ATTEMPT to overtake, he was forced outside because he couldnt brake as hard as that car. Like I said, it's so stupid to assume and comment shit when you're a back bencher and know nothing.
Bc the ring is not know to be easy to ride... Why would you metion the TT? If someones fast around the ring inPorsche you wouldnt say "well look how fast they drive in F1" Credit where credit is due. Its not "just" a good rider. Its a good one, yes. But also one of just a handful documented good riders.
It's crazy because of his lack of responsibility towards other drivers. TT riders ride on closed of tracks where everyone around them explicitly agreed on the risks of racing, this guy is basically riding on a public toll road without any regard for his surroundings.
Sorry, but I don't understand where you saw the "any regards for his surroundings". The only "close call" was with the Audi, and it's an Audi driver fault, he need to leave pass who is faster, and in Nürburgring you can overtake only on the left side. The other clips it's only fast drive.
Iron883Man you can't just go to the ring and drive it. It's a race track. Everyone on the track is racing or testing their limits. He is not endangering anyone! If you ride the ring you know what can happen its racing. If you can't handle the heat get out of the kitchen... Not just any pleb can go take his car to the ring and race on it.
Who cares what you think! Because you lack the ability to manage YOUR own risk and fear perceptions... you want to project it onto others? get bent buddy! LMAO.
+Project Archetype - X I agree with Klingi, not because I doubt the capabilities of the motorcyclist, but because I fear the lack of capabilities of other drivers...
keokiracerhalsteren i agree on the bit where you say the lack of other driver and there skills, just look at the bit with the audi A3.. BUT! he is so fast that when other people like for instance the A3 driver that when they spot him they or usually to late with responding. on this note just look at the bit with the porsche where he pulls away from it and reaches 200+ even before the turn..
+Aron Hofs That was basically my point, but I worded it a bit weird. No matter how good he is on his bike, other people may either not respond at all, respond in a wrong manner or not have the time to respond.
Great to see an R1 ridden the way god intended! So well done!! Good skill and balls of steel to match. You made a mistake on the brakes at brunchen 2 with the Audi but I understand your reaction as there's a lot of cameras at that corner lol! 🏁👍✊🏻
Awesome ride! Just crazy! :) keep it up... But the "incident" with audi. I do not understand why you were angry at the audi driver. It was clearly your fault... So you did not have the slightest claim to be mad ;-) But respect to youre ride! :)
Rules of the Nurburgring: overtaking is always on the left to you keep right. The Audi saw him coming, still he kept left and he indicated left. That's dangerous and confusing. Either you indicate right and you go right, or you don't indicate at all so the rider behind isn't confused by your behaviour. It would be OK if the Audi kept left and didn't indicate. That's so much as saying "I saw you but I will still act dangerously"
@@l.d.t.6327 you couldn't be more wrong. First of all, overtaking is done on the left, not on the right. In addition, this is a blind, off-camber, uphill corner with a very small margin for deviating from the racing line. It's why you see so many cameras there. Absolutely stupid thing to attempt a pass there during a touristfharten lap, against regular tourists.
@@mattcwell my bad, I accidentally changed left and right. I edited my comment. Still the Audi was dangerous. He didn't follow the race line to keep the curve, he followed the outside line because he thought the motorbike would prefer to pass on the inside of this 'youtube curve'. While he kept the outside line (the ideal racing line), he went superslow and braked hard. Either you keep your racing line and you keep your speed, or you move and slow down. Don't keep the racing line while braking hard, like the Audi did.
@@l.d.t.6327 The point is that it’s a tourist day. That may be that person’s literal first time seeing that corner, which as I pointed out is a totally blind, off-camber, very line-specific corner. That this rider decided to race a family hatchback around a difficult corner with the only escape-route being to go off track. I am not arguing about what the Audi should or shouldn’t have done. As a rider with a machine like the R1, you have to be absolutely certain of what the car in front of you is doing before you try to make and outside pass around a blind, off-camber corner. It’s not smart riding - period.
This guy is a great rider. He is a little aggressive and that’s okay. He has the skill. Also when you get boxed out it takes a lot of rider restraint to go for the dirt and not cut them off. The car over slowed and missed turn in
@@PaulPunk23LP I guess that was a bit harsh but I think he should stay off the racing when going well below the capable speed of the car, as the rider only met him with such speed because the car didn't accelerate at the appropriate time for taking such a wide entry to the corner. At that speed he could have entered the turn from the inside, which is where he should have been since he was nowhere near the limit of the car's ability.
@@yeahnahsweetas i totally get you, but during a tourist drive, you are only allowed to go as fast as traffic allows it. If you actually want to go that fast, go on a trackday or do some road races. The Audi probably saw him in the last second and just wanted to move out of the way. Thing is, on a tourist drive, you can drive as slow as you want to go. And of course, rhe Audi should stick to the right side of the track, but some people dont just want to sit on the apex, blocking everyone. (because especially in this corner, you can easily crash or slide off, when you don't stay on the inside) Better to ride safe. People won't expect you to race on the tourist day like a moron. (Because its not allowed). Btw, what the bike did in that clip is even breaking the law (according to german law, this is an illegal road race)
The rules of the Nordshcleife states that you must let faster drivers/riders pass by moving to the RIGHT side of the track. The driver did not follow the rules, that's why he got pissed.
Johnny Chimpo, move to the right side when SAFE to do so. Not when you are committed to a corner way before someone approaches. The biker made a mistake and wanted to blame someone for his error.
He wasn't looking in his mirrors frequently enough and didn't need to use the curb to curb racing line. The bike was visible from the previous right hand turn over 200 metres back. Bikes always have their headlight on. The driver needs to pull his head out of his arse. Nino needs to ride more deffensively to cater for dick head drivers.
If this is a Yamaha R1 ... I never saw one ... Nino , great driving skills , but not on Tourist/open days , you could end face first in the Armco ... hope you don`t , keep enjoying sunny side up .
Auf einer Rennstrecke muß und soll man sich nach vorn Orientieren. Der hintermann is dafür verantwortlich sich seinen überholpunk zu wählen so das es passt der vordermann kann garnicht pausenlos nach hinten schauen. Der hier gezeigte motorradfahrer hat nich mal rückspiegel dran, verlangt aber von anderen diese für ihn zu benutzen. Ganz schön egoistisch und gehört somit nicht auf die Rennstrecke oder in den Straßenverkehr sondern noch ein paar jahre in den Kindergarten, sry
this is a track day stop acting like its a race or a time trial you got away with it that time but u keep riding like that you'll end up a victum of the green hell and we'll see you in a crash compilation
its not a race day its a track day not supposed too be racing end of and if on a bike ricing like this guy is asking for trouble when cars are on track point and case in the video above end of.
do you see my pic you fucking mong got videos on my channel of me riding also, do research before spouting yar shit I've been riding for 20 years so know a thing or too.The ring is not a race track it is called the TT course for a reason you tit do you ride?
shut u up! you done talking? if you knew anything about the ring you would not be coming on here saying what you did.Biker's messing with a car any biker with good riding skills would know its a bad idea end of,and just how did I get technical buddy lol you need a time out go ride on yar safe honda nobody cares what you have too say.
Ich fahre ja nun auch schon seit Jahren auf'm Ring , aber dieser Vollspinner sollte sich mal nicht so aufregen,(Audi A3 vorfall) wenn er der deutschen Sprache mächtig wäre, würde er wissen , dass es sich da um TOURISTEN -Fahrten handelt und ein Rennbetrieb im klassischem Sinne nicht vorgesehen ist. Wenn man es schon nicht schafft sich eine Rennlizenz zu besorgen um im Rennbetrieb mitzufahren, sollte man echt seine große Kl.ppe halten. Ne R1 und ne Kombi aus'm Lidl alleine machen 's dann auch noch nicht...
Erstens, der Junge spricht deutsch und zweitens kann ich nicht wirklich glauben, dass du seit Jahren auf dem Ring fährst, denn ansonsten hättest du was vom RECHTSFAHRGEBOT auf dem Ring mitbekommen, was hier eindeutig missachtet wurde !
man sieht ja schon davor das der Audi ganz Links anbremst, nicht Platz macht und nicht rechts blinkt. Warum dann so Dicht auffahren? einfach mal die kurve hinter dem Audi hinterher fahren und nach der Kurve überholen. Vermutlich hat der Audi fahrer die geschwindigkeit des Motorradfahrer einfach falsch eingeschätzt. Kann mal passieren wenn man nicht oft auf der NOS fährt
Aber IN einer Kurve Überholen wollen? RLY? In einer Kurve fährt man nunmal Normal eine Linie, und wenn man dann nicht das Kleine Motorrad im Rückspiegel sieht.... kann das mal Passieren, man hat als Verkehrsteilnehmer selber dafür zu sorgen, das man an einer Geigneten stelle überholt und sich zu vergewissern, das dass Fahrzeug vor einem einen auch gesehen hat, dafür ist man SELBER zuständig, und wenn man sich nicht versichert hat, das der einen Gesehen hat, oder in einer Kurve überholt ist man nunmal zumindest Teilschuld. Auf der "Geraden" nach 1:35 wäre GENUG Platz für Überholen gewesen... aber NEIN es könnte ja ein bissl Zeit kosten, da Lieber einen Unfall Riskieren.... Sry es soll nicht Böse rüberkommen, aber ich verstehe diesen Fahrstil währen einer Touristenfahrt einfach nicht... es sind Leute da evtl. zum 1. mal ÜBERHAUPT auf einem Track... das die sich nicht auskennen ist doch normal oder net? Außerdem brauch da bei den Geschwindigkeiten nur eine kleine Pfütze Öl sein... An Alle die das Lesen: BITTE FAHRT VORSICHTIG!!
Lewitzschmiede ausserdem seine R1 ist 22t Euro und das Kombi ist eine Massfertigung mind. 1200 Euro ohne Schuhe, Helm und Handschuhe. Deine Missgunst ist peinlich
Interessant wie rücksichtsvoll er mit anderen Bikern umgeht und wie wenig Verständnis er auf der anderen Seite für die Autofahrer hat. Die Frage ist: Gehört er auf den Ring??? Für die Profis fährt er zu "komisch" und mit Anfängern/Touristen kommst er auch nicht klar.
1.40... Irrespective of the track rules...my opinion was it was the RIDERS FAULT ..(he arrogantly failed to protect himself).... poor form blaming the car driver....
Actually, my ears are ringing just by watching this video. I pressed my jaws too hard together just to cope. I imagine this guy hates sitting calmly in front of a nice evening fire with a cat in his lap, reading some good poetry.
JUst curious but does anyone know if there are any videos of say Valentino Rossi or any other GP rider on this track? Be interestinmg to see how they rode it.
Hahaha, nur war der eher "mittelklasse" schnell auf dem Ring, wenn nicht nur eine Schnecke im Gegensatz zu den vielen sehr schnellen Biker am Ring,die mehrmals in der Woche da aufschlugen. Viel PS reichen halt nicht, um auf der NS wirklich schnell zu sein. Der richtige Fahrer ist mit einer 600er unwesentlich langsamer/ viell schneller als mit einer Triple-turbo-weiß-der-teufel 500PS Maschine.... LOL, may be right but he was at least on the ring not at all one of the fastest, though probably more likely middleclass. If not slower. 500 HP are no garanty for fast laps on the ring, you can be for sure faster with a good working 600ccm bike if you know where to throttle
@Trollnald Dumb na ja, der war wohl öfter da, und 10 Runden fährst Du, wenn Du fit bist, an einem vormittag. Ich glaube, er hat gesehen, dass man am Ring nicht eben schnell sein kann, sondern hunderte Runden braucht und hat sich daher einfacheren Aufgaben gewidmet, ...nämlich bei 250 ein Wheelie zu machen ;-) . Das kann mit 300 PS jeder, der behauptet, er wäre ein guter Sport- Fahrer...und davon gibt es jede Menge.
@Trollnald Dumb Hab ja nicht behauptet, er könne nicht fahren. ;-) Jetzt ist aber Wheelie fahren nicht unbedingt sooo schwer, auch nicht kerzengerade und auch nicht jenseits der 200 und auch nicht einhändig. Finde ich. ABER auf dem Ring wirklich schnell zu sein....das packt halt nicht jeder..LACH. Sorry, ich bin nicht objektiv, ich mag halt nicht Typen, die mit 250 durch Städte fahren und sich als super Fahrer feiern lassen. Wir haben am Ring über den Typen gelacht. Dass der keine Schneckenspur hinter sich gelassen hat....
Bamwich No it's a tourist day you fucking mong, the driver was comitted to the corner and the biker was prohibited to pass on the right anyway! This isn't a track day or a race, YOU need to read the rules.
meth0d mate, the rules are pass on the left. What you're saying is contradicting. The driver just made a mistake and moved over to the wrong side. Like you said, it's not a race or track day, you can't block underbrakes. I'm not a mong, I just seem to understand the situation a little better than you.
clearly you dont Bamwich. If Nino is such a great rider, then he wouldnt have tried to pass, or he'd have allowed for the tourist to make the corner before trying. He had plenty of time to slow and take a better line, and was totally in the wrong. Its a public day, people get confused or frightened by fast approaching vehicles. A good rider would have allowed for that. Anyone thats been to Nordschliefe enough times knows to expect novice drivers to move erratically. If he wants to put in uber fast laps, he should do proper trackdays.
The biker was visible 200 meters behind before that right hander if the car driver had used the mirrors and should have moved to the right rather than taking the "racing line". I doubt the driver even knew the bike was behind until the rider blipped the throttle after running on the grass. He still may not have realised what had happened as he was probably driving with his head up his arse. The rider should have backed off a second or so earlier as it looked like the driver hadn't seen him. I'd say 80% drivers fault, 20% riders. Riding in traffic, a rider should always use defensive techniques and assume drivers don't see them. Nino was riding very aggressively which is not recommended with mixed vehicle types and widely variable driver skills. I have seen numerous RU-vid videos of tourist days where drivers do not look in their mirrors frequently enough so are caught by faster vehicles and fail to move to the left promptly enough. Some riders are guiltly of the same offense. Sabine Schmidt says the same thing on her ring taxi videos and she has done over 30,000 laps. Drivers must look in their mirrors at least every 5 seconds which includes looking in the wing mirrors for bikes or low sports cars. Most slower vehicles manage to keep left even on right hand turns. That driver did not need to use the racing line as he wasn't going that quick.
@@antimensch6313 Do you have any source that is clear about Andy Carlisle's record vs. Nino Pallavinci's time? Especially there seems to be a difference in defining the starting and ending points of Andy's and Nino's timed laps.
Great and impressive riding. But you should have given the car at 1:38 more space and anticipated his actions when you come up behind people so quickly - he obviously hadn’t seen you. It isn’t actually a race track and you only have one life…..
Clearly his own fault @1.38 The problem here is he comes so fast from behind that the driver of the Audi couldnt see him at this point. The Audi driver would probably check his mirrors after leaving the corner before, then his view goes to the next corner, check where he starts to break! From this point on he is watching for his turning point an apex and hasnt time to see whats behind. Its the responsibility of the driver behind to overtake in a save way. And after all there are road laws and its a tourist drive so you have all the different skill levels on track!
Du fährst sehr gut würd ich sagen. Und die lift control ist auch aus , trotzdem kann man nicht ewig lange wheelies fahren , irgendwann macht sie einfach das gas zu, ist das bei dir auch so? Erst wenn tc auch komplett aus ist geht das bei meiner
If he wants to die riding like that, that's its he's problem, not yours or anybody. He can ride fast, he likes it; that's it. If he dies, he will be one of the millions of ppl that died riding bikes. That's not your concern unless it affects you. Enjoy the fucking savage riding, and stop complaining about what others do. It's he's fucking life. Ride safe and don't be stupid.
Why? He is highly skilled. The clowns were the drivers who didn't keep left or use their mirrors. Nurburgring is for fast driving and riding. He is riding at high speed in a controlled environment. Yes, there are increased risks with high speeds near the limits of adhesion but this is the proper venue for such riding.
The Punishment du idiot stirbst bestimmt bald mit deiner super coolen 125er relaxed mal alle und befasst euch mit eurem hobby, aber nicht übertreiben und auf cool machen.
Natürlich gilt bei Touristenfahrten die StvO. Desswegen haftet die GmbH auch für keinerlei Unfälle. Und überholen ist wenn dann auch nur LINKS erlaubt. Alles in den AGB`s nachzulesen. Der Mopedfahrer kann schon mit dem Bike umgehen jaaa, aber die Hirne sind der Grund, weshalb ich NIEEE auf den Ring zu Tourifahrten gehen werde. Weil eben DIESE nicht alt werden und womöglich andere irgendwann mit in die sch*** reiten...
It's not his fault under the rules for the near crash with the Audi but ffs don't accelerate into the car and complain they didn't see a bike which is hard to see in the mirrors
Also rein vom Zuschauen und ohne selbst auf der Strecke je gefahren zu sein, würde ich mal vorsichtig behaupten, der hat mehr glück als Verstand der Junge. Der fährt ja schlimmer als Vestappen ^^
Dein Video erinnert mich an alte Zeiten aber auch an viele Idioten auf dem Ring. Zwischen 20-45 Jahren habe ich die Sau raus gelassen, hatte einen super Schutzengel aber dieser hat nun Kurzarbeit.
