Thanks for stopping by! What are your thoughts on Drumforge Savior? ⬇️ Download JZP Savior Kit (for Drumforge Savior): bit.ly/dfsaviorkit ⬇️ Download JZP European Kit (for Drumforge Bergstrand): bit.ly/dfbergstrand ▶️ Watch my review of Drumforge Classic: bit.ly/3l3D6sG ▶️ Watch my review of Drumforge Bergstrand: bit.ly/3syJx8F
No worries! Currently I can’t really offer mix templates simply because I don’t have all the DAWs. I think mix templates only work if I can make the template compatible on all the major DAWs.
A bit late but this came back up as an YT suggestion so, I'll take this as an oppertunity to thank you for this excellent and informative video. I got Savior after watching this and I love it.. even with its quirks and and the instances it makes me want to pull my hair out. Thank you for again for the info you provided which helped me decide!
Thanks for the detailed and informative video, it can help a lot. As for the Savior: I haven’t had time to test it in detail yet but the factory presets alone weren’t really convincing me and I liked only a few snare drums (it's subjective) plus there could be more toms. Apart from this I agree with you. Overall I consider the Savior to be a good drum library because of the versatility and it's definitely a progress after Bergstrand as you said. Thanks for your presets! :)
Hey James, awesome review! I was looking for something to give me another flavor to use (together or as a substitute) of the SSD5.5, and this Drumforge Savior seems to fit neatly. Just subscribed!
James thanks for this review, really enjoying watching your content. I have same incidentally sampler plugin crashes while working with samples during playback and some times it happens when doing some tweaks, like adding extra samples and Mixing drums. Did report to Drumforge, bought new power supply, SSD hard drive, installed system from scratch and it doesn't have any improvement. So there something like memory leaks in a plugin. Own and using Drumforge Classic and Drumforge Bergstrand, running it in Reaper 6 under MacOS Catalina.
Great review as usual! Actually checked your channel for prior to buying it when I got the early notification mail a few days back - a bit too early I guess. Bought it anyway though and, while I haven’t had time to play around with it, I’m stoked to see and hear your feedback on it
Thank you! It means a lot to me that you came to my channel to check for a review :) It's comments like this that tells me I'm doing something right and keeps me going =D
@@JamesZhan i bought it the day it dropped and was still waiting. i totally agree with everything you said. this is by far my favorite! can’t wait to try your preset, it sounds killer!
Drumforge Savior is so sick. Definitely agree with you about the chinas though. I wasn't a big fan of Drumforge 1, so I wasn't too excited about this library at first, but it's quickly becoming my favorite drum library. Cool video, I really like how much detail you go into in your videos!
Yeah, to me this is definitely the best Drumforge library so far! I actually really love the crashes and chinas in Drumforge Classic haha. I always try my best to go into details in my review videos rather than just demoing or tweaking knobs. My goal is to give people a good idea what's good and what's not good about a product, so they won't get nasty surprises if they do end up buying it.
Awesome brother. I have savior and regular Drumforge. Both the presets you made which are great. Do you have other stuff more suited to rock/pop punk??
Great video! I just purchased the sampler and was wondering if there is a way to route out the direct mics, room samples, and overhead samples separately into your DAW? I usually like to process my room sounds and OH sounds separately so wanted to see if that was possible. Thank you in advance!
Maybe an amendment to your idea on the Overhead micing technique. What if they made the OH techniques different faders with a grouping option between all the cymbals and shells? Would like to know your thoughts on this.
Hi, how are you, hope you are safe. I have a question. For Pop music, Pop Balads, Rock, Indie and more soft stuff would you recomend the Savior or the Classic Ultimate? Thank you very much.
Im new to the Drumforge samplers and after watching this video i decided to buy it. Does it have multiple outputs (to the daw) the sampler? i couldn't find anything. Great video btw.
Hi James..As you know we have 3 licenses available, I bought the Classic Ultimate and the Savior but i need to install in another PC and on the website the options to dowload again is gray out and unavailable. Witch is ridiculous. Dou you have some information where i can download the exe files again to install on my new PC? Thank you very much...btw i wrote an email support and allready 2 days and nothing, not very good custommer support i must say..Apreciate your help.
@@JamesZhan Yeah thanks.. We have 3 licenses as they have explain to me and they allready free up new links to download on my user account so all is good now, i had an answer.. Keep up the good work...:)
from what ive seen these are my only complaints 1) the groove midi packs they sell seems to only be used for the Bergstrand sampler. imo all their samplers should be abled to use them. 2) as far as the song builder goes i dont see any way of changing say a groove thats normally 4 bars to something else like 1 bar, 2 bar, 8 bar, 12 bars etc. also i dont see no way of changing say the tempo. If a groove is say in 4/4 there is no way of changing it to 1/2 which would be 2/4 or 2x like you can in addictive drums.
Totally valid points! The Groove Builder is a new thing and I would assume the team is still actively working on improving it. It's a small team at Drumforge from what I know, so big feature rollouts take time. There is a way to change the tempo in the groove builder!
I have SSD5.5 and personally I think Drumforge Savior is overall a better sounding library, at least for the work I do. They are both great options, but do keep in mind that SSD doesn't have any mixing capabilities.
Interesting! I don't really do Metal at all mostly the alt rock.. pop type world (But I never say never to any style as it helps us grow). But the price point for Savior is intriguing. (with the past customer discount) The mixing capabilities do seem pretty nice. I have always been that guy who has always treated Drum programs as if we were in a studio environment. So I would create separate tracks and route audio like you would have on a mic'd drumkit to seperate channels. With the in depth mixing features within drumforge I can see a world where I did basic drum mixing and even cut back on how much I route out of the program directly into busses for processing. It could clean up the projects potentially moving forward. I really appreciate the response. You have given me a push into moving forward with Savior this go around. Big props to you and I am glad to have found your channel. Just subscribed =D
@@justingambino2186 Full disclosure, I'm a lot more familiar with Drumforge's libraries in general than SSD's, simply because I rarely find what I need in SSD libraries, so there's the element of bias in my opinions haha. That being said, I do think with the current sale price, DF Savior would probably give you more bang for the buck. You simply get a lot more control over your drum sound with Drumforge Savior. Plus, that alternate hand sampling really makes a HUGE difference in making programmed drums sound human. Glad you like my content and thanks for the sub!
Hi, the redline happened at the track level, which doesn't clip the audio since most DAW runs at 32-bit floating point. The master is the one that can clip the audio, and in my session the master wasn't clipping.
