BEST Option? Pathfinder BOTTLE or CANTEEN Set

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So what is the best option, the Pathfinder Bottle or Canteen set? The Bottle Set and Canteen Set are two of our all-time best selling products. Dave Canterbury explains the background on development, and why you may carry one or the other. Stainless Steel Canteens and Bottles and accompanying products are not all created equal. Dave explains why both Pathfinder sets have not only served him well on thousands of hikes and overnights, but will serve him well for years to come. The Stove for each set is perfect for over the coals or when paired with our Pathfinder Alcohol Stove. The thought process and continued development of the Canteen Set and Bottle Set in addition to our "Pathfinder Promise" Lifetime Guarantee speaks volumes to the degree we stand behind these sets and our quest to continually improve. Single Wall Stainless Steel construction and well thought out designs that pull influence from proven designs of the past, are what set Pathfinder Apart. If you are interested in either of these two sets, please check them out here:

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@jasongarling20 11 месяцев назад

Dave, thanks for doing this video! I've been torn between them. So might as well get both!

@SelfRelianceOutfit 11 месяцев назад

You do know that means you better spend some time in the woods. 👍👍

@jasongarling20 11 месяцев назад

@SelfRelianceOutfit I try to everyday!

@danielmatthews4262 11 месяцев назад

I have both, you won't go wrong

@jasongarling20 11 месяцев назад

@danielmatthews4262 thanks! I appreciate the first hand knowledge! Although I must say I've Never received any bad piece of kit from PKS, Pathfinder, or Self Reliance Outfitters!

@tennesseesmoky9012 11 месяцев назад

Just recently, I added the Pathfinder PFM40 (Swedish Mess Kit style) Cook Set to my Pathfinder Stainless Steel Canteen Set in my pack. This is a great setup for cooking up some lunch or dinner when in the woods. On longer journeys in this hot weather, I’ve also been carrying an additional 32 ounces of water in my Pathfinder Stainless Steel Bottle. That maybe a bit of container overload, but I’m usually doing more cooking than simply boiling up some water. Self Reliance Outfitters designs and sales rock solid camp cooking equipment. Very satisfied with these purchases.

@captainscarlet6758 11 месяцев назад

As an ex British soldier, I totally agree with you on the water bottle and cup set. In the 80,s I had a plastic water bottle and cup. I hated it. I always wanted a metal version just to boil water like you said. I have now have the crusader mug but need the bottle to fit. Not sure if the American bottle will fit. Fortunately I'm not a soldier anymore. So don't need to worry about it too much. 😂

@varnellhopkinsiii6863 10 месяцев назад

Austrian canteens will fit in the plastic British canteen cups

@captainscarlet6758 10 месяцев назад

@@varnellhopkinsiii6863 Thanks for the info, ill have a look at it.👍

@johncrouch8988 8 месяцев назад

@@captainscarlet6758thanks for your service 👍🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿

@ashab1 26 дней назад

Just bought the crusader stainless not sure if to get 5he osprey bottle or the Nalgene oasis the Nalgene will be small but think it might b3 the better bottle

@kylechambers-f3g 11 месяцев назад

I love the idea of the additional batwing cup.

@aaronwilcox6417 11 месяцев назад

Nice. 10-15yrs ago there really wasnt a lot of cup and bottle type options. Today its a golden age of containers compared to the 80's 90's and early 2000's. Good stuff

@boilingaction 10 месяцев назад

Are those two new canteen cups (early vietnam style + D-rings and the butterfly handle cup) already out now or still in prototype phase? Where can I get those? (Do you have a direct link?) Do you ship to Germany? Thank you very much

@prostarmansd 11 месяцев назад

You can use the stove as a scraper for fero rods as well using the oval holes.

@PABushHunter 11 месяцев назад

you can use the edge of the pot stand also or a sharp rock I dont carry the pot stand tho the striker that comes with these new sets is very nice

@jcepler 8 месяцев назад

I think the most overlooked addition to the bottle cookset is that the entire thing including the stick stove will fit into the pathfinder 40 oz cup. With that theres still room for the alcohol stove or a butane fuel can inside the molle bag. Best kit ever. Food and drink with 2 stove options. Keep it up Dave!

@JamieLewisKoya 8 месяцев назад

Needs a spoon added.

@Rooster1964 11 месяцев назад

I have both,(well two of each) it depends on the kit it fits in better. I like cooking in the canteen cup over the regular cup. But the bottle usually fits in the kits better. While in the Army I shaved in my canteen cup, then made coffee with it

@mitchalgreen7244 11 месяцев назад

I've had the large canteen kit for almost 4 years now and still haven't had any problems. Yes they get black, but an SOS pad later they are good as new.

@SelfRelianceOutfit 11 месяцев назад

Nice! Thank you!

@GForceMN 11 месяцев назад

I've been debating which one to buy for so long! I guess the canteen does make more sense for the campfire. Thanks Dave

@jamescrowe7892 11 месяцев назад

Can't go wrong with either one. I would suggest a fish mouth spreader for placing and removing either one from a camp fire.

@jameswillems2243 11 месяцев назад

I have been carrying the double canteen cup rigging for years I finally switched over to the Pathfinder canteen set and I added my 1981 basic training canteen cup and I am as happy as a Pathfinder on the trail

@saritaford3667 11 месяцев назад

Dave, thanks so much for this video. It's great to see the ins and outs of each set.

@xingmenneigong 11 месяцев назад

thanks I use the bottle, nice to know I can put the klean kanteen cap on it, which I prefer from a previous klean product I had. I added a small 250ml SS cup that nests on the lid of the bottle so I can have tea/coffee as well as a meal at the same time. great products

@johngayley2588 7 месяцев назад

SUPER Excited about batwing cup. Been waiting for such a cup for a long time.

@RiverBankViking 5 месяцев назад

me too

@johngayley2588 5 месяцев назад

Yah but we need to create a campaign to push for it. I contacted, they said put off till next year

@RiverBankViking 5 месяцев назад

@@johngayley2588 I just have written you a message on FB...hoping that it's you account there

@jamescrowe7892 11 месяцев назад

I recently acquired the canteen cook set. Tested it for leaks with positive results (no leaks). Dave is correct about tweaking the tabs on the cup to ensure a good lock up. I would suggest making those tabs a bit longer to enhance the friction lock up. Other than that this kit is outstanding. I also have a couple Pathfinder bottle kits with carrying pouches. The pouches are very roomy for carrying extra stuff in addition to the bottle kit. They have a water resistant lining, also. I have a couple of similar water bootle pouches made by another manufacturer which due to a thin layer of insulation aren't quite as voluminous as the Pathfinder pouches so fitting a 32 oz bottle inside is no problem until I try to add a nesting cup. Got my first PKS knife a couple years ago and have added 2 more since along with the Pathfinder water containers/cook kits and a Pathfinder skillet and I haven't been disappointed.

@wyattoneable 11 месяцев назад

I appreciate your experience Dave.

@Nunya9876 11 месяцев назад

Very clever yet beneficial designs that make a lot of sense! 👍

@shadomane 11 месяцев назад

I own two of each set, complete. Both are awesome and like Dave says both have advantages and disadvantages between each other. One thing is for certain, just like all Pathfinder SS cookware both sets are of exceptional quality and, once you buy one you're gonna want the other....so might as well buy both....you won't be disappointed. Great products!!! Excellent video Dave!

@FidoHouse 11 месяцев назад

VERY timely as deciding which to purchase. Thanks! Yes, getting BOTH a good idea!!

@gldsmith61 9 месяцев назад

I thought this was going to be a vid just about canteens and bottles, but wow what a lot more . Very very cool, thanks.

@arctodussimus6198 11 месяцев назад

I have both systems. The Pathfinder Bottle System is in my hiking/camping pack, and the Pathfinder Canteen System is in my wilderness/ survival pack. I have a second, batwing cup in my wilderness pack but it’s nested around another canteen. Pathfinder products are scattered throughout all my bags, kits, and packs. In the deep wilderness, or any time your life depends on your equipment, it pays to get the best products out there.

@mikerilling6515 2 месяца назад

It’s good that you’re FINALLY going to make the double cup system We’ve been using the double canteen cup with the bat wings for years

@YankeeWoodcraft 11 месяцев назад

Both are great, but it's the canteen for me hands down. It's easier for me to grasp for opening, I like the lower profile kidney design that hugs a pack on the side bottle pocket, it's old school, it's MILSURP on steroids and I just subjectively like using it more. Anyone can pour 32oz in it, put a mark on the outside of it's wall and BOOM! That issues is solved regarding using water purification tablets. #LifeIsEasy I'm just getting into UL kits like a Ti cup/pot combo for recreational hiking and gravel cycling, but for woodcraft (traditional camping, old school outings, hunting, etc...), give me that stainless steel canteen all day, everyday and thrice on Sunday. Nothing else will do. All my survival rigs have stainless bottles/pot/combos. There's only going to be 3 things left on the planet if we nuke ourselves into oblivion when the smoke clears; roaches, cold handle skillets and stainless steel canteens.

@RobertNixon-uw2xt 11 месяцев назад

Nice. I have two bottle set and well pleased. I also have vintage WWII canteen cups sets ane well pleased with them as well. I had to buy recent production stoves for the canteen sets. Not a perfect fit but works.

@charlesnelson2649 11 месяцев назад

I have one of each water bottle and canteen with cups looking forward to using them this weekend

@elderhiker7787 11 месяцев назад

I have both of these items and I have used the bottle set much more than the canteen set mainly because I day hike much more and use the bottle set to drink from and a quick lunch or Ramen noodles. The alcohol stove is perfect for this since we are in open fire restrictions so much of the time. Both of them are great items for backpacking and camping.

@Swearengen1980 11 месяцев назад

The hiking aspect is where it loses me. The point is that it all nests together, but if you're out hiking, you need a bottle of water ready to drink....not a bottle nested and packed away. Do you just not drink or are you adding excess weight by carrying additional water?

@elderhiker7787 11 месяцев назад

@@Swearengen1980 yes, I do carry an additional bottle of water for quick swallows during my hike. Personally, I’ve never bought into the weight obsession. If I was hiking the AT, weight would be a factor. But, for a 4 hour day hike, I can handle an additional 6 or 8 ounces. I don’t buy ultra-light equipment and I use a 5”, stainless steel Firebox stove. So, yeah, I bring extra drinking water. When I was a Boy Scout, my backpack weighed more than I did. LOL.

@Swearengen1980 11 месяцев назад

@@elderhiker7787 I'm not a big nitpicker on weight either. It's just that if you piece all these types of videos together for everything you "should" have, you do end up with a 50 lb pack. Staying at a reasonable 25-30 lbs of gear isn't "weight obsession", not like the people who try to get to 10 lbs. I actually do hike long distances (like the AT), as well camp, hunt, etc. I try to make most of my purchases multi-functional (excluding fire/cooking), so weight to some degree does factor in and I have to pick and choose which areas I do need to go ultra light on. Really it comes down to, I don't consider a 4 hour hike to camp "backpacking". If they claim a gear is meant for backpacking, then it should be convenient and intended to be used often, easily accessible, over long distances for days at a time.

@MrGraemeb2022 14 дней назад

I think the two mugs, one on top, one below, is a very neat solution.

@rancidcrawfish 11 месяцев назад

The bottle set is fantastic and fits great in my helikon tex mk2 rig. And there's a grayl/pathfinder nesting cup in the other bottle holder the mk2 has

@danielmatthews4262 11 месяцев назад

When I go out I almost always gravitate to my canteen set

@RiverBankViking 10 месяцев назад

I can't find the double (butterfly) handle canteen cup on your website. Can you give me a link to order please? Would be a nice Christmas present.

@Dreoilin 11 месяцев назад

I own both and they have been used for many years and have never failed to be amazing. Buy both!

@gwpattrick 11 месяцев назад

The 64 Oz water bottle cup which is 48 Oz will hold the 32 Oz cup and parts too. I like that bat wing cup for the army canteen. Hope that comes out soon.

@jeffconley6366 11 месяцев назад

Great Products. I like a combination of the two. Canteen cook set in my canteen carrier or in my haversack. Canteen set is my food cooking set. And what I drink from while hiking. Then one bottle cook set in one of the pockets of my back pack. Then a second bottle for the pocket on the other side. This is what I make coffee in. My brew setup. This way I can be cooking and making coffee at the same time. With just one set my food or coffee gets cold. This gives me over 3/4 of a gallon of water. Most of the time I use Trangia type burners with both sets. By the way the Canteen stove makes a good digging tool.

@OutBack-pt4zm 11 дней назад

Had a canteen set when I was in the military 87-2010. I like the bottle set a lot better. Easier to clean, easier to fill, easier to deal with

@YungIroh 11 месяцев назад

Hey Dave, Giant fan, I myself only shop with SRO. And I went with the bottle/stove/cup/lid set with the fishmouth spreader. I keep a multitude of things inside the bottle when I'm not using it to carry water. It goes perfect with my Duluth haversack too.

@brianscott3392 Месяц назад

Nice Gear, and one of the “ 3- C’s” I learned from your teachings for survival; Cover, Container, Combustion. The US Military sure trains you guys with fantastic bushcraft skills. I think you’re great for sharing! 🇨🇦🙂👍

@ROMAN138 11 месяцев назад

What you say makes absolute sense. I use the South African version of the bottle set on small hikes but use the SADF canteen set for overnighters and more self sustaining purposes when outdoors for a lengthy period of time.

@bogdan_d82 11 месяцев назад

Good thing I took the time to wach this 😊 I didn't know about all the features of the canteen set, i still need to get a bag for the set 🥺

@Robert_Thomas832 11 месяцев назад

Love the crusader cup, i have a Dutch army stainless variant. My plastic bottle doesn't fit inside but other stuff does. Great work mr C.

@jimbrown9885 6 месяцев назад

Out of all my cool bits of kit, my canteen set is one of my most beloved. Not flashy, not expensive, but beautiful in its own rite. A joy to use and I have 100% confidence in it.

@Shards-of-Narsil 11 месяцев назад

I have them both and love them both. Like you said there are advantages and disadvantages to both. I love all the gear you make it's all wonderful and great quality.

@stevenlatino111 11 месяцев назад

Can we expect a return of the kettle at some point?

@JonDough-412 11 месяцев назад

I have the canteen and love it! I love my pks Kephart as well! Thanks for all the hard work Yinz fellas put in to help us out! Appreciate it!

@SelfRelianceOutfit 11 месяцев назад

Thank you, the Kephart is a great choice!

@daviddowning8480 11 месяцев назад

The bottles sets fit perfectly in outer pockets of a medium Alice pack.

@MBwelding 11 месяцев назад

I have both but when I’m at work I have the canteen on my harness mainly because I like the cup with it more for putting in a fire melting snow or making coffee on the fly but I do use the round water bottle alot when I have a back pack mainly because it just fits the outer pockets better for me

@Rob-ji7fx 2 месяца назад

I bought the pathfinder canteen set, w the old school handle, I love it. I keep it in a old French military canteen cover because it withdraws perfectly while on the belt and drops right back in just like an old USGI.

@gopherstate777 2 месяца назад

I got them both. I put the canteen set on a war belt I made with a Maxpedition Janus pack and a Mora field knife.

@Nofixedabode859 11 месяцев назад

Well explained Dave thx for that👍

@bsd9230 3 месяца назад

🎉🎉Great video. By far the best complete set I've seen. All nests together perfectly. Very well developed. Largest cup I've seen. More like a bushcraft pot

@gerardmartyn1738 11 месяцев назад

I have the bottle and cup set. Love them. Thanks guys.

@Magoo652 Месяц назад

I like the Pathfinder Canteen cook set as I don't like backpacks, I prefer a waist pack or shoulder bag. I have the shoulder bag that suits the canteen cook set. The same bag suits the Pathfinder PFM40 Swedish mess kit that I take motorcycle touring. I like the idea of the 2nd batwing handle canteen cup on top, I had not thought of that. Thank you for sharing👍

@thewheelchairprepper8070 11 месяцев назад

THANKS DAVE

@josephmartin1540 11 месяцев назад

Great video and designs. I’ve never had any of those plastic canteens (not counting later Nalgene variants) which EVER quit tasting like plastic. Especially if it was a 2nd quart on a hot day or later.

@pennsyltuckyreb9800 11 месяцев назад

Yeah, you never shake the plastic/chemical taste no matter what brand plastic. The only plastic "canteen" that works without the taste problem are those "Smart Water" bottles which are big with UL thru-hiker types if going with a "canteen" setup.

@phillipsmith2443 11 месяцев назад

I went to the bottle years ago to get away from the plastic canteen. I really like your canteen system.

@Livestrong00782 11 месяцев назад

Hey Dave, when does the new canteen cup with the bat wings come out? On the website it is still the older model? I love your idea of combining the two for a more complete cook system. Love your stuff and your products, keep up the awesome work and gear.

@Schleifuchs 10 месяцев назад

I would like to ask the same question! Dave, I can't find the "new" cup for the "big" canteen kit anywhere. WHERE and WHEN will I be able to buy this special extra cup? Please let us know! It's time to have it😂! Greatings from northern Germany!

@weschaffin 11 месяцев назад

I have both and love them!

@breaking_bear 8 месяцев назад

Outstanding information! Very clarifying for helping me decide on what to purchase first!

@gjnezat 11 месяцев назад

Thanks for this!

@edsonsoares5761 11 месяцев назад

Show eu tenho o kit do cantil e vou adicionar o outro tambem !

@ronnance4866 2 месяца назад

I'm gonna need two canteens to balance out for hip carry plus a banjo on my back. A spork would be a big plus.

@johneriksen5504 11 месяцев назад

Thanks. Have one of each and your presentation bring up some new points. I look forward to you have the additions for each available.

@bobp6698 11 месяцев назад

Very informative

@CliKnight 11 месяцев назад

Dave let me start out by saying first of all you are my Bushcraft woodsman Yoda. And not to correct you but for me they both are my favorite. And I carried them both because why wouldn't you?!. I am so excited to see that the new cup has the D rings built into handle. I've been using to keychain rings on my handle for years. Looks like I have to upgrade now. Before I got your canteen cook set, I carried a osprey British military canteen cook set. I loved it it worked great and all, but I no longer use it as a main kit. It just stays in my car as a backup emergency kit. Thank you so much for what you do and being so darn innovated. And making good quality gear affordable for us to get ahold of. Many many blessings to you and your family. God bless and thank you for taking the time to keep the woods a place for us to enjoy. Humble yours Clí

@SelfRelianceOutfit 11 месяцев назад

Thank you very much. Appreciate it! Blessings to you as well.

@Gadgeteer22 6 месяцев назад

Another advantage to the canteen set is that it conforms to your body. So, it looks better on you when worn on a hip belt or cross body as opposed to the rounded bottle set which sticks out more.

@OPSTuT 11 месяцев назад

A lid for the water bottle. Like the nesting cup would be cool.

@QuantumPyrite_88.9 11 месяцев назад

Are the heavy wire - bottle suspension devices still available? It would be nice if they were included. All the best.

@JDTN1985 11 месяцев назад

In case you can't get them from Dave's site, it's just a standard fish mouth spreader that can be found anywhere that sells fishing gear.

@QuantumPyrite_88.9 11 месяцев назад

@@JDTN1985 Thanks for the info. Have a great week .

@Addy-ft4ps 7 месяцев назад

Thank you for this comparison. It was helpful.

@jamesvickery308 8 месяцев назад

Dave, I would love to see the new D-ring canteen cup sold on its own as an accessory to existing canteen sets

@abandonedotter4270 11 месяцев назад

I have both. I use the bottle and nesting cup more frequently.

@drewhall2190 11 месяцев назад

Solid Info!

@bulldawg6259 11 месяцев назад

Thanks I'm going to the canteen with two cups

@hiramhaji7813 11 месяцев назад

Great information

@distaff2935 11 месяцев назад

Thanks!

@knowledgeispower6192 8 месяцев назад

Canteen cup set is awesome. Would have liked the butterfly style handles more than the handle you chose

@snosov 11 месяцев назад

I have old fashion Bottle set, and love it so much, that I decided not to switch to newer iterations. Glad that new ones have lower profile bottle lid and have no additional holes for fish mouth spreader, but for me old longer foldable handles are absolute must have. Is there any chance that type would go life again?

@joeyperez8581 11 месяцев назад

Be blessed

@tom77685 11 месяцев назад

Thanks for doing this video. I have both canteen and the water bottle. I was wondering if you would release a new item that you used in an old show dirty rotten survival the water desalinator?

@BigRed-oi6ky 11 месяцев назад

Great informational video Dave

@ronnance4866 2 месяца назад

The kettle you mentioned would be nice if you could use 2 canteens with it to improvise a desalination setup. Some of us like to kayak. The ability to remove salt or tannin from watert would be a major improvement. Just say'n.

@kevincooper8666 7 месяцев назад

Well done Dave still the best of the best

@anthonygomez446 11 месяцев назад

Definitely the canteen set. For the woods. Water bottle set for get home bag

@TomahawkScout 11 месяцев назад

Can you please sell both styles of canteen cups separately?

@unclebrat 11 месяцев назад

Hi Dave, I would be VERY interested in the mesh insert and lid!!

@phillipfaile3122 11 месяцев назад

My cup didn't come with D-rings. I'm about to cut a length of copper wire, to modify, or carry that with the set.

@mikerilling6515 2 месяца назад

Batwing handles on a canteen cup are the only way to go no fussing around with your tab and that lever and the canteen cup collapsing, spilling your coffee on the ground with bat wings. It’s simple fool proof.

@madsenism 2 месяца назад

Hi! Thank you for the Great comparison. And well all the other amazing videos ! One question if you don’t mind. How do you go about cleaning that inwards folded mouth on the canteen?

@amateurshooter6054 11 месяцев назад

Thanks Dave

@phonecards1 11 месяцев назад

Great info. Thank you.

@CalvinFischer 29 дней назад

I just received my canteen order and it meets my expectations. It goes together just as you described. I ordered extra lid & stove and found that 1 of the bat wing handles will tuck in the stove allowing a friction fit to keep the stove falling off the cup. While as you stated my Mini Works filter, my GSI H2JO & Nalgene Lids are compatible with the bottle, your Lid is not Nalgene compatible so presently I can not carry my H2JO in the bottle, until I acquire a replacement Lid from Nalgene. Also your cups fit my Nalgene & USGI canteens very well and your lids fit USGI canteen cups very well. Overall I'm very pleased with my order with that 1 very little exception. Yes the tabs need tweeking. Does the system with 2 cups fit in your Canteen Pouch MOLLE? Is the gen I lid Nalgene compatible?

@abauto5408 11 месяцев назад

I am gonna have to pick up the stove and alcohol burner.

@Joshua-hx2js 11 месяцев назад

Any plans to bring back a titanium canteen set?

@Cetok01 11 месяцев назад

On the website it doesn't show the canteen cup with the batwing handles. How long before it is available?

@martinausterfield8597 11 месяцев назад

Dave, where do you see the M34 fitting in among these, or do you not? Too small for practical use?

@kleinerkrieger7860 10 месяцев назад

Danke für das geniale Video. 👌🏻✊🏻

@seanpenrod 11 месяцев назад

I like the "KLEAN CANTEEN" SET THE BEST.

@skylerspear9044 11 месяцев назад

Hey Dave, will there be a stove coming out for the grayl cup set? Or the ability to purchase the current stove separately from kit like with the bushpot stove?

@slickydicky 3 месяца назад

If you ever release the batwing handle cateen cup ill buy two of them

@jaysonjones5527 7 месяцев назад

What about making the new batwing cup to go over the pot handle cup to replace the stove?

@ronschreiber3635 5 месяцев назад

Dave love your videos s can you tellme where I can get the canteen cup with the large handles you show thanks Ron

@micahweeks9459 11 месяцев назад

I actually carry the bottle kit with an extra bottle and cup. One is for the fire. The other is kept clean and is for drinking out of on the move. I am a bit of a "neat" person in some ways, and I don't like having soot on my hands while going about my day. So I boil water in one bottle and transfer it to the other to drink later. Then I cook my soup in the already soot-covered bottle and pack it up in a dry bag when done so it doesn't get on my other things. Fussy? Maybe. But us OCD people have to cope somehow. 😅