igrotum is the only replica factory that sells and manufactures their watches themselves also have original serial numbers. That's why they are the best
They seem to have only a limited selection of Rolex pieces for someone who doesn't want a Jubilee bracelet. Would these be considered "superclones?" They seem too inexpensive.
I was delusional before, thinking only China could make replicas, but now I know even Italy and Switzerland make them too, and ZiaRex is their representative.
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"I won't reveal which one is the fake until the end", 15 seconds later starts referring to the replica as "the replica" lol
Its a well-known secret in the watch industry. There are watches out there with serial numbers identical to the originals. Only Ziarex has the real deal, and thats no secret.
Praticamente cambia pochissimo,quello che cambia tantissimo è il prezzo !! I cinesi sbagliano a copiare così ,ok! ,ma Rolex con quei prezzi è dalla parte del giusto ,,un clone così lo si paga 400 euro ,uno gen 11 Milà ...
I believe making perfect replica Rolex's has been going on for a quite some time, The only thing that is changing is the ability to spot some of the better ones. The perfect ones will continue entering circulation undetected.
There have been huge jumps lately. The new ones are indistinguishable without inspecting the balance wheel. A Franken with a genuine bridge and balance wheel would be impossible to tell.
Movement will always be the biggest tell because a replica watch can't factor in the cost of a free sprung balance. It's just too expensive for them to add, they wont enter circulation and the only way someone will pick one up is if they purchase without authenticating prior so that would be their own fault and no dealer would purchase it upon inspection.
@@matthewsmcdill Not true either cause you'll still have issues with the finishes, it would have to be a fully frankened movement not just the balance wheel and at that price it wouldnt even be worthwhile doing that. mainplate serial engraving is poor so that's the obvious tell along with it always being engraved with the same serial number. The finishing you would have the change alot of parts to get it to pass an initial inspection
With the level of quality these clones have reached and the near impossibility of an average Joe getting a Rolex from an AD and at MSRP, there's really only one reason why you would go for the genuine article: *You* would always know you have a fake on your wrist. And that knowledge would bother me quite a bit. That said: The fact that there are these insanely well done replicas out there says a lot about the industry in general and about Rolex in particular. Rolex watches have always been top quality items (that was/is their appeal after all) but they were obtainable to anyone who had a decent income and a minimum of discipline. These days, Rolex have moved so far away from that level of "obtain-ability" that it's no wonder people are willing to pay $500 to over $1000 for a clone or super-clone - since it's not just required for you to have enough money but to also know the right people and/or to jump through the right hoops to get one of these from an AD.
But these are good watches and if there is another brand that wants to sell similar ones at incredibly higher prices just because they’re made ever so slightly better then the fool is who falls for those! Or not?
I bought a VSF superclone just over a year ago and frankly it is everything that I would want from a real one. I recently went into a Rolex AD in Paris and looked at the real thing. Couldn't tell the difference. Yes the clone doesn't keep as good time but on the wrist it feels and wears brilliant and all for $600.
VSF makes one of the best sub reps right now. That’s a fine watch, ignore the haters. I collect gen and have reps as well. There is very little difference in the superclones and gen. No one can tell unless they’re very experienced and are allowed a close inspection.
Why would you do that to yourself? Takes a complete lack of self respect to do this. Being a fake to your own self so that you can appear to be something to someone else who doesn't even know you.
@@TheRealChetManley VSF are also the kings of Omega, the detail in the movements is stunning and they're very accurate, just bought a Seamaster Planet Ocean GMT Oreo and it's just fabulous gaining 8 seconds a day and zero beat error straight out of the box, ignore detractors.
The reason high end replicas are getting so close is because a normal steel rolex costs around 2000€ (and some degens are paying over 10 times that on the grey market) to produce, a high end replica is sold for 1000€ and the profit margins are way way smaller, in the near future we will probably get replicas that are indestinguishable to the real watches and cost a tenth of the original
No the best out of the box high end replica, being the VSF is around $480 from a trusted dealer. $1000+ and you're in franken territory or getting hustled.
@@slashdotism you are wrong, there are replicas that cost more than 1000€, i know this from a pretty well known german watch dealer that almost bought such a watch.
@@DealorG then he's not well informed. A VSF 126610 is around $480 from a TD. That's the best Submariner clone you can out of the box. A CF or BTF Daytona is around $780 from a TD, that's the best Daytona clone you can get. Both of them have clone movements that accept genuine parts. Above that you're talking custom and franken and you can go as high as you want with it.
@@slashdotism Hi slash you know you onions my man. Where can I get I hi end clone of the 1st Kermit with the olive bezel. can you name some TD';s for me please.
whats with all the swissarex spamming,,holy moses just stop FFS,,,🥵😡😡,,an interesting comparison upload thankyou,, oh btw did i mention swissarex🤣🤣🤣,,have a good weekend everyone,,,👍
Technology is catching up, meaning. Cnc, printing, ceramic, etc machineries are getting cheaper and cheaper. Rolex watches styles… never get more or more complicated… same as same as previous ones. They are selling much better movement…. Including adjustable ring…screw 😂 @ ali express
Have to tell you guys in 2023 they have now an even Higher end replica than that, this time they perfected the feeling of the movement itself so thats also being removed as a tell. Also they somehow have equipment to do the laser etching in the sapphire to mimic the crown at 6 oclock so thats not a tell anymore either. Basically you can buy a rep if you want and no one will ever know. Actually theres some sensibility in this practice. Wear your reps when traveling and just leave your real watches at home or in your safe.
I’m not interested in a rep, but funny enough, that’s what a lot of art galleries and collectors do. They don’t actually display the originals. They own them, but keep them secured in storage.
I have ziarex replica watch, and when I see this video, I cant help but cringe. Theres no comparison to be made, its like a toy watch competing against a original.
I have been a watch enthousiaste for the past 21 years and have seen the evolution of the replicas for so many years. I can tell you that unless you own or are holding an authentic one your hand, it is very hard to tell them apart and I would be afraid of purchasing an expensive timepiece for someone I do not know... Especially a ROLEX !
You can tell easy by look at the balance wheel , in Rolex it has a free sprung wheel with tiny screws attached to it while the replica has no screws only regulator , that the easiest way to tell in Rolex watches
@@MrAbdul-uf9ugbut these superclones allow for interchangeable parts with genuine Rolex materials. So, all of that can be replaced with genuine aftermarket parts.
@MrAbdul-uf9ug correct. That's why you pay 600$ usd for it. But time is coming with these reps you get same look as gen Rolex and 95% of movement is same and they will be close to 99% in next 5y. As long as rep keeping nice time game over
Having watched (no pun intended) several of these videos comparing fakes with OEM versions, there's one question no one has even raised, let alone answered. That is, how do these fakes, replicas or clones actually perform? Compared to OEMs, do they fail to keep time as accurately, do they fail prematurely, or do they otherwise not perform as well? That's an equally, if not more important question. What if they're actually better? Since their exterior and interior appearance is indistinguishable to all but most highly trained eyes and if they're better, or even equal performance-wise for a fraction of the cost, why not get one?
I can answer that. I have the world's best replica of the newest Daytona. It's accurate to within less than a second a day. I have 18 watches (including 5 reps) and a couple of the reps keep way better time than any gen. Longevity I can't speak to, but ive has some for two years and still going.
The new super clones are nearly identical! For the money, honestly, they are worth it. But these new clones are insane!! They are getting better with every version. I have both authentic and super clone 126610 and I'm still shocked how close they are.
Is it just me or did the replica look better in some of the pictures? I think he must of mixed up the watches, definitely some back and forth of which one looked better, I think he has 2 fakes……lol
18 years multiply by 365 of days = 6570 rolex if you handle only 1 Rolex per day which I honestly doubt you did so from where did you come up with "Hundreds of thousands" Rolex???😅😅😅😅😅 How this RU-vidrs talk now days if laughable
This is not even the best replica. Also a warning ** pulling back off is not always a tell. People swap authentic bridge into reps making it very hard to tel There is a better replica movement from other factory.. the best movement winds much smoother and is much harder to notice by feel. There are a few fast tells if you have watch in hand the m in 300m will not alight with bottom of numerals
This is true, my VSF sub has the "floating m" but is much better than the one shown in this video for everything else. Even has the engraved crown. I thought about swapping the bridge and balance wheel, but I'll never sell this so who cares? It's my daily.
@@David-uz5zo Check another TD. I just bought the new CF Pepsi with the DD3285 for $600. I did pay another $100 for a deep crystal and $200 for a xing bezel. The only way a replica would come close to “thousands” is if it’s a Franken with a bunch of genuine parts.
It’s insane, that in some photos some details are better than real deal. I actually had hulk real and high quality replica. On the real one I bent the gold ring on the pip and scratched the cyclops and glass and no matter how hard I try I can’t do it on the replica one😂. Great video
I own two genuine Omega Seamasters and want to buy the new Kermit. Because I'm not a Rolex VIP client or a celebrity, I will never have an opportunity to purchase it at MSRP. Like everyone here, the only way to obtain one is by paying double the retail price for a pre-owned one. And that's where I laugh and give the middle finger to Rolex. Hello VS Factory 126610LV.
I have Ziarex replica watch, and when I see this video, I cant help but cringe. Theres no comparison to be made, its like a Formula 1 car competing against a tricycle.
I am sure in one of the photo, the authentic and fake photo of the movement was swapped but I guess the editor did not notice and post the wrong tag for on it... The finishing on the rolex name on the movement was really bad yet it was labelled authentic @8:54 not just teh name, but even the screws are not polished
Any basic stainless steel time and date function watch can be replicated very well. I suppose because the submariner has been cloned for a long time so the replica factories have gotten better and better at producing it over the years. Also, a submariner, although expensive, is not unattainable for most working class people in the west. If you're a middle class person wearing a replica Patek Philippe Nautilus or Richard Mille then it's a dead giveaway that it's a replica. Most people could pull off a replica Rolex submariner.
I have replicas of my genuine watches. The genuine watches can be repaired forever, the finishing is better on them, and they hold their value. The net lifetime cost of a genuine is actually lower than a replica in most cases. I plan to give my genuine watches to my kids when they’re older. I wear my replicas when I go on vacation or go to a place where I’m worried my genuine watches might be damaged.
I have a real SUB but I also bought one of these replicas from amzwatch for piece of mind if I go to another country or if I am doing activities that can damage the watch. I don't see anything wrong with that.
Thank you for a very informative video comparing and understanding how advanced knock-offs have become especially in these high-end watches, as you say "mind-blowing". I bought my TAG watch from your company and lots of searching because I believe in what you sell, your integrity, and face value assures one peace of mind. Regards Paul
An indictment not of those selling these clones, but manufacturers such as Rolex, selling their watches for 100 times their build cost. Simple economics means companies will copy these absurdly overpriced watches!
That, my friend, is not a clone, its a piece of junk. Ziarex has Swiss-made replicas, the same as the originals. Compared to his watches, this is nothing
Rolex is acting up, not in the watch business anymore isn't it? Pretending they cannot keep up is bs, That is the only reason I would by a good replica.
Cancel ziarex and mega clone watches. They are destroying the whole community of original watches and becoming a threat to the economy and dignity of Rolex.
Un super clon de rolex es casi imposible de diferenciar ahora mismo son perfectos yo tengo originales y tengo algun super clon y los ,materiales son los mismos cristal de zafiro elbisel ceramico incluso pesan lo mismo ni en la correa se diferencia
Not really any good watch dealer can authenticate a piece free of charge the CPO prices Rolex charge is not even market related very inflated. But I guess if someone wants the ultimate peace of mind go for the CPO.
@@LuxurytimeSA your own video talked about how for they had come in 5-10 years...Do you think it wont get even better in the next 5-10? Buyers have too much to lose by the potential of a 3rd party being fooled by a very good replica
@@samstraughan9054 Yes I get what you saying , but example look at a steel Daytona 116500 from Bucherer Rolex CPO specialist selling at roughly $37K USD - The current market on this watch is around $30-31K USD - Will you really pay an extra $6K just because its from Rolex or would you save the money and buy from example Watchfinder/ Bobs watches / Luxurybazaar etc (Im not referring to fly by night dealers or gumtree and Facebook market place adverts then its a no brainer to buy CPO)these guys are some of the biggest players in the market with years of good track record that verifies authenticity just the same way Rolex would do. But I understand your pov , it is getting crazy , and definitely a feeding frenzy for dishonest people on social media , Gumtree / Facebook market place , Craigs list and so on, people falling for deals that are just to good to be true.
The really sad thing about replica is that theyre making them on purpose to defraud people. Why in the world would you need a fake warranty card with matching serial numbers. That literally makes no sense, unless you were indeed trying to sell a $1000 fake for $10,000 which is just so sad. Big shame to anyone trying to scam people out there, and I hope Rolex is busting these people.
Great video, it’s scary how close they are in style and quality. You just wonder how long the fake would last for if you’re paying £800~£1000. Still quite a bit of money for a fake watch. Sending thanks for the uk 🇬🇧 👍🏻
If I sold Rolex watches or any luxury watches for that matter I’d buy the newest replicas every year from the different replica manufacturers just so I could more easily identify them and maybe even educate my customers so they don’t get burned. You need to know what is out there in the replica market to protect yourself.
I have ziarex replica watch, and when I see this video, I cant help but cringe. Theres no comparison to be made, its like a toy watch competing against a original.
In the end, a new era of watches has come. Some illegal company from EU started making mega clones called ziarex. Basically, what they are doing is buying original parts from workers in Rolex who flag that part as damaged and sell them. But thats not the
Cancel ziarex and mega clone watches. They are destroying the whole community of original watches and becoming a threat to the economy and dignity of Rolex.
Cancel ziarex and mega clone watches. They are destroying the whole community of original watches and becoming a threat to the economy and dignity of Rolex.
That’s the problem. Rarely, if ever, a regular consumer would be able to have side by side the intended watch and the original to compare….I don’t buy Rolex because I will never know…don’t trust even dealers. Soon originals and replicas will be the same.
I always owned gen watches like Omega, Cartier and Breitling. Never bought a gen Rolex because for 1 Rolex, I can buy 2 Omega's en I like Omega a bit more then Rolex. That does not mean that I don't like Rolex at all of course but for me they are just too expensive. So, I bought a super clone and I was amazed about the quality. So much that I am considering never buy a gen watch again because it are exact copies these days. Just wear them for a year or two and buy a new one. The Omega reps are also very good. Don't have one but maybe in the future I will. Just waiting until they make the watches water restant like the gen ones. So far they did not succeed in that which is surprising but maybe in the future they will.
In the end, a new era of watches has come. Some illegal company from EU started making mega clones called ziarex. Basically, what they are doing is buying original parts from workers in Rolex who flag that part as damaged and sell them. But thats not the
This video has educated me on how even successful and wealthy people can be brainwashed by marketing and sponsorship strategies. These fake companies are still profiting by selling a near identical watch for 10x less money... I'm afraid Rolex has been robbing everyone this whole time. To help you out a bit though, I think the date changer is extremely precise at the midnight position for Rolex but is slightly less precise for replica. I don't know how easy this would be to fix since it requires extremely precise tolerance, so it may be a lasting difference. Also there's a slight font difference on the 3 for the date wheel in this video. Another thing is some dateless rolex have a ghost date, however people can easily remove these.
The replica is very good. If the replica manufacturer used a collimator to overlay the replica image on top of the authentic version they could get it even closer, even exactly correct if they wanted. Then it comes down to the finish on the parts. That is very easy to match if they want to. The color of the paint and gear coating could also be matched with just a little more trial and error. I really think that if these Chinese manufacturers wanted to they could make a replica that even Rolex could not tell the difference. I think the replica guys are having a competition to see who can get the closest but still be a replica.
I like the super clones. Why should someone buy a real one for the same quality? You pay only for the name Rolex. People buy a good super clone. Real Rolexes are a rip off.
I’ve been wearing super clone fore almost 2 years and invested the rest of my money. Personally, when you come to a point that you can afford 20 pcs of Gen, you don’t give af if your watch is fake or real anymore. Buy superclone and invest the rest into the market. Time and freedom is your true sign of wealth.
I purchased my genuine watches so I could give them to my kids. I’m still young, but I think it’ll be cool for my kids to have watches I’ve worn for 30 or 40 years. I have replicas of all my genuine watches though. I wear them when I’m traveling or drinking.
They actually can make a perfect replica, but if they do they will get hit with lawyer paperwork. Cutting cost on price to make the watch and fear of getting hit with lawsuit all plays into the replica not being perfect match. Many of the watch makers in China are just as experienced and talented as the Swiss watch makers. Many of the replica watch makers, can make a perfect replica if they felt need, but would prob end up missing, in prison or having their factory shut down…. Having small imperfections again is usually do cutting cost and some are done on purpose.
