I love the content and the fact that you don't put a bunch of annoying music like a stupid bass track with it. Keep up the great work! I wish you were closer to Louisville Kentucky.
Good video Ivan. I’ve got the Autel MS906bt and, thru you, I got the ThinkTool Pros. Love the ThinkTool. I work out of my home as you do but don’t do a fraction of the diagnostic work you do. Even at 66 I love the challenges diagnosing brings. Scan tools can become an addiction. Thank you for great videos.
Ivan, something to consider.. Autel will lock any updates through their server, or support if the scanners are bought other than a legit US distributor. They are pretty serious about it
I would have been tempted to buy one of these a year ago but at the moment I can just about afford to put gas in my car to get to work, praying it holds up. FJB.
Heard such good things about this channel. Embarrassing to admit I kept spacing out looking you up. I’m so glad your channel popped up on my feed today. Keep up the great work brother! Looks like I have a ton of content to catch up on 🤘
THINKCAR THINKTOOL PD8 Bi-Directional Scan Tool, 2022 I was looking at this has a decent rebate. Thanks for your input. Plus so I can get input when someone uses the same scan tool.
Considering these tools cost about the same as a minor/mid level repair it seems a no-brainer to have one even if you just want to educate yourself about your own vehicle. I have found that a good honest tech will appreciate when you go in with a level headed perspective about the problem as long as you don't erase the codes first.😂
Great video Ivan, thanks for walking us thru the choices, I'm leaning toward the scanner with TPMS capabilities for my vehicles, but I'm still watching Ebay for a Tech 2 with Candi module too!! I was a GM tech for 10 years before I decided to go Trucking for a living and I love the Tech 2!!!
Love the Thinkcar Thinktool Pros. Not a pro by all means but helped me program a junkyard ABS module on a Ford Expedition. Diagnoses a bad speed sensor and a wheel bearing hub on a Nissan. Just a hobbyist. Also have the LAUNCH X431 PRO3S+.
Do you ever see a day when these diagnostic tools will be integrated into a new car? I would rather have a diagnostic tool than a backup camera or other electronic junk they put in new cars.
Good point! That would be a negative selling point though I think. "And when your car breaks down you have a built in scanner so you also won't need the extended warranty...".
It will never happen. For so many different reasons. I'm not sure exactly what reason would trump everything else, but no mainstream auto maker will ever do that. I just don't see it happening, but hey, maybe I'm wrong. You never know, anything is possible. Just not probable.
GM was probably the best at doing this in the 80s when computers were starting to become pretty common. Actually even on a C5 you can read codes from all the modules through the cluster. I think you can do more things than that, too.
Thanks for the awesome review Ivan!! Was looking around for a great scanner and your review video just helped me seal the deal!!! Pulled the trigger in the Autel MaxiCOM 808TS. Now that it's bidirectional it's a no brainer!! And today and tomorrow are Amazon prime days so great and I mean great sales on them right now!!!!!
Xtool a30d is less than 99$ but do 99% diag like big boys. Bidirectional and lifetime free updates! Next step is 250-350$ range 7" tablets: launch 919 and otofix d1 lite. No point really going over that. Better get these cheaper 2-3 different names than one big expensive scanner.
I have a ThinkTool mini for under $350 it has lifetime updates and bi-directional capability for $50 per year per make. Since I'm a hobbyist I don't often need bi-directional and the thinktool mini scans every module in every car i throw at it, it's excellent. It also has 10 hour battery, and 18 special functions.
Man I really enjoy your videos so informative I don't mess with a lot but GM and mainly my own but I think it'd be worth me and invest in one I work on my own stuff and my family's but very informative keep up the great videos buddy
how do you feel about xtool a30m? $200 full bi direction control and free subscription is huge for me.i beleive its near identical to the xtool d7 that costs nearly 2x as much and they saved cost by going bluetooth dongle.im diy and new to diag and the bi directional control seems to be full bi but the live data is kinda slow but for $200 just having full bi direction and free subscriptions i dont see how this isnt more popular for diy?works great for me so far but only used it for a few weeks and a few cars for just checking it out,please give me your thoughts because i really want honest feedback
I got the Xtool D8 for $700.. It's very good, it has all the bi-directional controls. and 30 special functions. and is very good at making keys and pulling codes for special keys, ect.... It's one downside is that it can't graph the data very well.. I can only graph one thing at a time in the live data pid list.... and then I can only "combine" 5 different things at once, and it will only let you do it on one graph........... It won't fill the screen with several mini-graphs like the thinktool does, which is unfortunate... but otherwise it has been very good for everything else. and has 3 years free updates. It paid for itself in the first week easy...... The Topdon Phoenix ($900) or the Thinktool ($1200) are both better options from what I've seen.... The D8 is definitely worth the money though.
I know it was mandatory for vehicles starting 2008, to come from the factory with some form of TPMS. But these systems were available on a lot of vehicles long before that. Something you need to watch out for though, there are some Honda's, Acura's, VW's and BMW's for instance that don't actually have TPM sensors. Instead, they use the wheel speed sensors to measure the tire size difference. But in any case, it can be quite valuable to any DIY-er or mechanic, to have a TPMS tool to help in resetting that pesky low tire pressure indicator light.
I've owned TPMS vehicles since 2010 and haven't needed a tool yet (GM and Mercedes - can't speak to other makes). Provided I bought the proper OEM sensors, I've never had an issue following the OEM relearn process. Yes generic sensors are cheaper but they last a long time and it would take a long time to pay that back with a tool.
@@YuckFou0x0FFFF I think a lot of that is because many cars don't tell you actual tire pressures through the gauge cluster. All 5 vehicles I've owned with TPMS (04-08 vehicles) show me individual tire pressure, which I find very useful.
The cheapest option with TPMS is to keep the OEM sensors and just install new batteries. I know with my wife’s 2016 Impala you have to reprogram the sensors after the batteries die, but that’s no big deal with a cheap $10 ebay tool.
An important consideration is the storage on the scanner. Mostly satisfied with functionality of my Launch x431 but only has 16GB. Can only hold so much software for different makes and need to occasionally uninstall one to load up another.
I updated my thinkplus with3 maintenance items to Autel Maxicom Mk808bt Pro. Got it for 549. Thinkplus would have cost me 49 a year per reset,per vehicle. The Autel got me over the hump with major problems with 2012 Impala. Autel cost 150 a year after year 1. Autel is bidirectional and over 30 resets.
Thanks for sharing all that knowledge on those scanners young man. Your a wizard using these things. Great video well worth watching like any of the videos you post.
If the sensors already have an ID number, any sensor will work as long as the sensor is is on the right frequency. If you want to make a copy your current sensors to put in another set of tires/wheels, so you can swap sets without doing a relearn process, you will need a set of programmable sensors. These tools are fine if you only need to do a relearn. The Autel TS508 which I have can only clone/program Autel sensors. I assume the same applies to the 808 series. I don't mind that because I like Autel's push button release on their sensors which makes them a breeze to install and change.
Hi Ivan, Can you use this scanner to program oem tpms sensors? I have an 06 LX470 and I am looking at replacing the tpms sensors with oem Toyota sensors. Thanks
Do you need to be online to used these kinda OBD Reader ? Do you need to have a wifi to used this ? Can you used this new from the box . ? What happens if you don't updates does this still work ? Is this capable of scanning Fuel Pressure test ? Is this capable of scanning compression test ?
What scanner should a guy buy that is no bidirectional and will recode new modules. One more thing do you know if a cluster out of a used 2003 Ram 5.9 that is out of another truck so has wrong vin and mileage. Thanks in advance.
Wow, very good detailed explanation on all scanners you used for the job that's affordable and easy diagnosis to use. Thanks for the video. Helps me to understand that what's good and what's not. Now sure did increase my knowledge on those now. Thanks for the video, Ivan!!
I am always interested in a good aftermarket scantool that does bi-directional stuff. But for me it has to be very Mercedes compatible, particularly mid-2000s Mercedes. Best one I seem to have found so far is the Foxwell NT510. I can get a Mercedes-only one of these for $200 and that is going to be hard to beat. Again I need it to work with EVERY module, and support the same bi-directional controls as the factory Star system, with the exception of module programming. Someday I'll invest in a Star setup but a modern, lightweight scan tool that does everything but programming would be highly valuable obviously.
OMG. This bit of information just got me excited. Problem is, you need a PC to do the updates and not directly through the tool. Sounds promising anyway because the NT 530 upgraded version seems to do a lot of cars including US autos. I’m seriously thinking of getting this tool. A bidirectional tool for less then $200 is a no brainer. Thank you for sharing this information. Just looked up reviews. All hope is lost.
The body shop I work in does a lot of newer Chryslers so I need to have a tool compatible with Autoauth. I “upgraded” from a MK808 to a MX808 just because it’s a North American market tool and is Autoauth compatible unlike the MP808 and the MK808. I just noticed they added some Bidirectional capabilities it’ll be interesting trying them out. If I understand the models correctly the North American version of the MK808ts is the TS608.
@@PineHollowAutoDiagnostics that’s good news, I’m sure there where a lot of people like me that didn’t appreciate having to buy a different tool just to have Autoauth compatibility.
Ivan, I was about to pull the trigger on Autel MaxiCOM MK808Z-TS Scan Tool - 2023 Bi-directional TPMS Tool Updated of MX808/MK808BT/TS608Pro with Active Test, 28+ Service, Bluetooth All Systems Diagnoses, Sensor Program/Relearn, FCA Autoauth but then I found a video on Autel and their update policy locking up a unit. What happens when you do not want to update because you just work on your own old cars?
I just ordered a tcp card for my old ts608. Can't wait to check out the added bidirectional controls. I had recently got a thinkdiag and an xtool a30m that have quite a bit of functionality and inexpensive bidirectional control, but my experience is Autel has much clearer on-screen guidance for special functions with less flakey behavior. Still happy to have my array of powerful cheap tools that are all getting updates for now.
Thats true, that autel are supreme without over exadurating, i own 808 bt version and so far happy customer so so many stuff covered, wish that mercedes side would be bit bigger, s classes there are some features wich arent aviable and are only 906 models but anyway rest makes and models havent had any problem :P
I just purchased autel scanner with the blue tooth doggle, which I'm new with scanners tried hooking up to my 2019 ram 1500. It keep saying network error will eventually auto scan if I keep pressing esc but think I'm doing something wrong
AUTEL is an unethical company that takes advantage of its consumers. I acquired a maxisys pro in 2015 and had no reason to upgrade its software because it was compatible with all of my vehicles. A free update released an application that works like ransomware and installs a timer that prevents you from accessing the diagnostic part of the tool. Now, all I get is a “Software is not authorized!” message when I try to use the diagnostic part of my tool The only available option is to purchase an upgrade from Autel for $1400.00. Product knotting is illegal in the United States, and this corporation should be severely punished for what they're doing to their customers in order to create cash flow due to the recent lawsuit Autel settled.
Ivan I have the mx808 the maxi check version my one year free updates just expired last month do you know if I buy the update will it upgrade it to bidirectional controls?
Man that sucks.. lol.. I agree with you. With that Maxicom now having bi-directional controls... That's the one to get. It's too late for me to send back my xtool D8 now though. :(
@@dieseldawg7132 It's very good.. It just doesn't "graph" the data very well, like the others do. If you've watched this channel a lot, you've probably seen where his ThinkTool scanner can have a full screen of like 8 different mini graphs all at once.. The D8 cannot do that at all. It can only graph one thing at a time... OR You can pick up to 5 separate things to graph, and it can only COMBINE them all together on ONE graph--- so all your squiggled lines of data end up over lapping each other and you're trying to look at several things at once----- rather than having several mini graphs that are easy to read.... This is really the only downside I've seen with the D8. But it was only $700, and that ThinkTool Ivan uses is like $1300.. SO it's almost double the price....... IDK, the D8 is still very good, and you usually only need that extra detailed graphed data when you are comparing to a pico scope signal, ect.. Othwise you don't really need it I guess.... But the point is, the ThinkTool is better and the Topdon Phoenix is better (for $900) ... and if I could go back, I'd probably just get one of those instead. This D8 has already paid for itself though, very quickly. I made several copies of IMMO Keys and key fobs in 4 different cars right away. And the Dealers were trying to charge me $500 per key, which is just insane. So again, getting a scan tool was the only way to go. I'm not paying some corrupt dealer $500 for a dang key to be made.
@@calholli yessssss I completely agree it’s a beast but those flaws to me are a little bit to much, but for a budget scan tool yes I give it that it’s really good
@@educationaltvshows9950 It's definitely worth 400. I bought it for 700 and it didn't even have topology at the time. They have also updated graphs; it can graph 6 pids at a time now at least. It makes keys really well
Ivan, would the MaxiCOM MK808TS allow me to drill down in my 2016 Ram 3500 to see the tranny? Don't think mine has the security module but want to verify before purchasing. Thanks Ivan, great video.
You can buy way better scanners with way more functions for the same money.Autel has become a money hungry game with updates,and the updates they do release isn't much at all.I have the MX808,and it was the worst 500 bucks I have ever spent!
I bought Autel MP808TS just a year ago. Last week the VCI died on it, just one solid red led on when plugged in. Contacted the seller on ebay, and they said that i need to send the whole unit back to China, and i need to pay the repair since i've owned it just over a year and it is out of warranty. Their listing says that it has 5 year warranty which is seemingly complete BS. I'll maybe buy another vci for it, but i thought about buying Thinktool Pros now. I have Launch Diagun iv too, and it has been working flawless for four years so i trust Launch quality more than Autel.
Ivan first excellent informative video. I own the launch X431 mini which is a very good scanner and just updates Honda enhanced software but looking for a larger screen and battery life. I’ve been considering the think tool pro that you have and also the launch X431 pro 3s+. Any opinions. Price wise they are close. I don’t want a Chinese clone software rip-off. I buy good quality tools with good support. Seems like you have good success with the think tool. Any input appreciated. You and wife stay safe and well Artie 👍
All the Autel, Launch, and Thinktool are Chinese. They reverse engineer the manufacturers software. If you don't want that, then you have to pay the premium Snap-on, Bosch, Autologic charge ($4,000-ish starting?). They pay the royalties to the manufacturers and pass the cost on. And then you'll find the Chinese will still do a lot the others won't. The Chinese software is pretty good at cloning modules, rewriting vin's, and working with anti-theft. I hardly even try the Snap-on unless all my Chinese scanners fail, even then it's a very low success rate for the Snap-on. The Launch and Thinktool usually do TPMS just fine if you buy a cheap $20 TPMS activation tool to use in conjunction with them.
@@donwasse7892 yes I know they are Chinese but I’m trying to purchase from a USA seller who will stand behind the product if something goes wrong. I will not purchase off Amazon for that reason. Thanks for the reply Artie 👍
I really like your videos and I would like to purchase one of theses Autel scanners but not until I find out why mechanics and DIY'ers are not up in arms and allowing theses companies to scam them with updates? You are being scammed like never before. I bet they are nothing but bug fixes. They want the public to find all the bugs and then soak you $600 each year. I would bet that if you missed two or more years of subscriptions that your machine would say this isn't supported and that isn't supported etc. How much longer will mechanics allow them self's to be scammed like this?
Thanks for the review. Can anyone answer this? If you buy the autel mp808bt and don’t pay for the upgrade does it just leave you with the with the info from the last upgrade? So I would not be up to date with 2024 cars and newer?
Ivan I just purchased the borescope from your store. Any recommendations on the launch x431 pro3s the think tool scanner you seem to use often in your videos. Just send me a private message. The whole world doesn’t have to know. Thanks Ivan you and wife stay safe and well 👍
Also the maxicom are the international versions. Maxipro or Ms are u.s. versions. . i did a lot of research and i personally didn't want the international versions. You can use maxicom here in the u.s. but supposedly the maxicom version only supposedly get assistance from overseas. Vs the Ms maxipro has customer service here in the u.s.... If i got to talk to someone overseas at a different time of day that I'm sleep then I'll pass. Lol
Looks like the MaxiPRO $100 off code is not working any longer. The price seems to have also changed from $630.99 to $680.99 I was going to pick up this scanner as I already have a separate TPMS tool from Autel (Autel MaxiTPMS TS508). I may have just missed this sale :(
The link to purchase in your description, is that the seller you purchased from? Im just unsure where to purchase since I read a lot about duplicate serial numbers and unable to register…. Just want a reputable seller to purchase from . Any help would be appreciated
i got the 808 BT pro and love it !!! but im already itching to spend more money on somthing bigger, thanks for this video , showed me how to delete all the apps i dont need taking up space and much more 😎
I had the d7s from xtools. I return it because i couldn't turn on the radiators fans on a 2004 audi. I had to go this long process. Instead on just v selecting the module
Ivan, what are the limitations of the MaxiCom over the Thinktool? I've seen you using the Thinktool more lately. I've got a 2013 T&C I need to do TPS relearn (changed the ECU due to alternator not charging.) But also have the annoying TPMS on my 06 Suburban, plus an airbag light (mechanic replaced the heater core and that light came on.) Thank you for your advice. I'm a big fan of your videos and subscriber.
Are you familiar with a scan tool called Mucar v06. It has a life time free updates. I would love to see your review of this machine. I watch your videos all the time. Awesome 👍
Very nice video, wht scanner would you recommend for HVAC troubleshooting, to calibrate blend doors actuators after replacement, to detect compressor and entire AC system relays, temperature and pressure sensors? I will appreciate your help.
