KOMPRESSA GANG!!!!! Emerald shards broke it as a primer!!! Has innate Viral allowing you to mod for Corrosive and Cold, thus allowing you to full strip, prime max Viral stacks, prime max Cold stacks, and Encumber to max out every other status for you. This thing was my go to primer for Disruption before we got emerald archon shards, I haven't used a different primer since we got them (except for heat inherit setups, which I typically use my Tysis for due to my Heat + Faction damage riven). It's so good! With that being said, the Knell Prime is probably my favorite secondary. I like weapons with unique mechanics that reward skilled play, like the Dual Toxocyst, and the Knell hits the nail on the head for me...plus it does REALLY solid damage.
i love lists like this bc incarnon weapons are overused with good reason but sometimes they are annoying to charge, make a melee list next! Or a frame list would be interesting from you
Lists should either be favorite or best. Laetum doesn't have to be your favorite but it cannot not be a top gun. By every objective measure and capability/performance it has to be. These lists should first explain by what metrics they're ranked, for what purpose etc. If a gun easily kills base steel path that's not really good enough to be a top 10 wep imo.
Sevagoth (with his augment) and Kuva Nukor is nutty. Kuva nukor has low crit change so crit dmg is overlooked even tho it has really high crit multiplier but Sevagoth you can utilize that Crit Nukor
My most used Secondary is epitaph for obvious reason, I dont really use secondaries as main damage source, I usually want them to have some ulity aspect (and I dont have Nukor) but my favourite secondary as an actual secondary is Pyrana prime without a doubt I know it is not the strongest, but it has the best gimmick in the entire game, and it just "feels powerful" also on the side note, I love that someone placed twin kohmaks in the honorable mention, I love those things, most dual weilding secondaries but they are probably my favourite out of the bunch Edit: How could I forget the cyanex, my 2nd most used secondary, its a bit niche of a primer but it is very fun to use with its richochetting homing projectiles and gas procs
Interesting, i will look into cyanex cause i remember when i levelled it up for mr it seemed decent but I didnt really think about trying it because it wasnt interesting enough to me. Now i am intruiged
@@WispGraxx Now theyve added the homing/richochetting mechanic to some incarnons so its not as unique as it used to be. Aand mag to reload ratio is a bit annoying when you are spraying so keep that in mind you might wanna use mod to make it a btit better, stunning speed is decent since it already likes as much status as you can put on it but other than that i is really fun to use, and subjectively, it looks really cool and clean, hope youll have fun using it
@@prodbyANT sometimes you dont care about the most optimal and your monkey brain just wants to see what it would be like if enemies were paper and you had a paper shredder
I love the Cyanex... it's really good for the "kill 20 enemies while riding a k-drive" riven challenge. It's not the most powerful weapon in the game, but you can take it through the entire (regular) star chart with no problem... fire and forget.
You nailed it on sporelacer. Early game with a Nezha or Rhino you are immune to knockback so at MR5 you can do steelpath easy. If you dont go all in with the forma's you wont see its true potential.
Even later, I still use the Sporelacer as my base choice for secondary, if I don't need a primer. For a while, it was the strongest gun I had, including primaries, which was kind of funny.
I'll throw a couple out there; - Kunai Incarnon: SUPER FUN AND ONE SHOT AUTO HEADSHOT GALORE; especially with the amazing "death-trap-trigger" evolution - Cyanex: auto-homing missile launcher, surprisingly shreds with a proper Viral/Heat setup - Tenet Cyron: I LOVE BEAMS, and the infinite Ammo in this one is fantastic. Personally i run it as a Heat Dps weapon - Lato Vandal Incarnon: The bit more lowkey Ricocheting secondary, with the wonderful "death-trap-trigger" evolution, which like the Kunai Incarnon, gives you an insane CC and CD buff for 4 seconds after switching from your primary, love the !!! damage numbers 🤣
Cyanex used to be absolutely amazing with Mag. The primary went through her bubbles to kill nullys and the secondary shredded like a blender. They changed it though unfortunately 😢
Best secondary for Yareli - Cyanex. Great for the CO meta, lets you focus on driving. Which you need, given the board's potential and wonkyness. Fast moving Mesa, in any mission other than silly long runs.
Just an editing feedback: pls show the weapon in the arsenal or foundry when you talk about it. At least for a bit… I wanna see what it looks like and associate the name with a gun.
I believed after seeing the Buzlok in the honorable mentions for the primaries, but now I know for certain after seeing the Twin Kohmak in the same category for the secondaries: you know ball
@@AziSlays Secondary encumber, and some base damage and it ramps the damage insanely fast with Galvanized Shot. It's my hard target eliminator next to an Incarnon Laetum.
23:37 because of this part, the little marked for death synergies, that I actually pick up this helminth ability again, but not on either trinity or revenant. It is someone else, and I cooked.
Laetum for SP, backup for when Ninja say hi. Just a single target meltdown. Sporelacer, I don't free roam without it. Effective in any open map. Epitaph, for any heat primer builds. Ocucor has taken more gameplay over Nukor since the augment, otherwise they are basically similar to me in usability. iLex for the Ninja 1 shot. If they were to remove all secondary weapons tomorrow, the only one I would miss will be Sporelacer or Laetum.
as a relative newbie to the game who just got into making incarnon weapons, i 100% agree with the laetum. It's fun to kill everything within 5~10 bullets with incarnon but charging that gauge is so darn painful since the bullet speed makes headshots inconsistent.
Best secondary is a 60% heat tenet cycron... unlimited ammo makes it better than the Kuva Nukor because a Nukor without ammo is useless which is all thetime. I agree with sporelacer it is OP. Laetum is great for Archons disruptors acolytes but sometime the headshots don't count and sometime lag causes you to lose the charge because you hit the incarn key wait nothing hit again and quickly goes incarn and back to reg.
Melee Crescendo is not needed for Secondary Outburst (ex with Catabolyst) imo. It'll be nice when people have it but for now nobody's got a full one of those and it's annoying to use with a low rank one. Instead, use Ceramic Dagger. Slap the +initial combo stuff on it. With the built in stuff and normal mods it'll hit 166, or 9x combo. Alright, not amazing i admit. With a riven with 34 initial combo on it (which is doable on a 3 buff with curse riven or a 2 buff riven) you'll hit 200 initial combo for a 11x combo multiplier. To be honest that's good enough for most purposes. However, if you got a low roll riven and want to run with it or just want one more multiplier you can run Ready Steel (with a 30 initial combo or better riven, almost any initial combo roll works here) for the full 220 initial combo/12x multiplier (or 10x without the riven). Or run some of the Ceramic Dagger stuff and then run Melee Crescendo on it if you want, i dunno.
Of course! But I will need to farm the new arcanes first. I delayed the quest a lot so that DE could first fix the bugs it had so I am only now starting to work on it. It will take a while but you know, all in good time :D
The Sporelacer is my goto for most high-level missions. I like to put Pax Charge on there, since you don't have to worry about ammo, and it reloads almost instantly. I have a good riven (104.3% cc, 68.8% toxin, -0.1 [!] dmg to Corpus) which also can be used on the Primary version.
Why is the primary version of the sporelacer a shotgun and why does it have 2 meter explosion like.. I was so disappointed. The secondary sporelacer is goated
@@WispGraxx With the riven, and the fact that it's an auto-shotty, it gets red crits consistently. So for me, it's a top-tier weapon. Don't bring it to missions with radiation everywhere -- you'll down your teammates alot. :)
With the confirmation that we will have the infested equivalent of the liches this year any infested, corpus or grinner weapon (remember that when the sisters arrived the liches also got new weapons) has to be quarantined until we have news. PS: A big problem that incarnon weapons have is their inconsistency (they are great at times but only at times) if the base weapon is a prime weapon then little problem because at least it has the stats to be at least competent but when it is not the case...
The problem with Laetum is that Laetum is balanced around levelcap. Buffed up and properly built In normal missions it will have trouble changing incarnon cause it deals to much damage. If you use it in levelcap with xatas whisper it will feel like how its supposed to feel in base steel path. When its full potential is unleashed It kills faster and more effortlessly than even dual toxo. I used to love it then I liked it less (I went through a similar phase as you are) now that I discovered Void Cascade I love it more than the first time I got it.
My sporelacer has 9 formas. I built it by coincidence cause I simply wanted to do something with the reputation i earned in deimos to get the vulpaphila, and honestly nothing and I mean nothing has come close to how mindless the sporelacer makes the game. Forget headshots, I do floorshots with this thing and it evaporates the enemy, and with pax charge it reloads near instantly The only bad thing about this weapon is the bad habits i developed, i can't headshot anymore lmfao, i suck at it, even tho I was super good at it when i started the game
Also another reasone Laetum shouldnt be top 10 anymore is because random warframe buffs giving crit in the current meta if your in public group will rune the damage bonus.
I want to see a video with Bubonico vs Shedu. Or a shedu showcase since you said you prefer it because considering how hard it is to farm it feels underwhelming to me.
2:03 Hey again Moug, I know it feels like I'm nitpicking and I'm sorry but the total 10,000 damage value displayed is including multishot in it's calculation. It's not 250,000 after multishot, it's just 424.23 per pellet * 24.9
Hey man so I just wanna give some love, I just saw the top primary weapons video and started this one, I felt the need to get out of the meta stuff cause it just got a bit boring and repetitive (hella funny the comments on knightmareframe's video) and lemme just start off by agreeing with ur opinion on Laetum. Im a baby tenno (just turned mr15 after 2 months of grinding from mr9) in the middle of this incarnon chaos and all im seeing is Phenmor and Laetum. Now they re both amazing but man stopping all that momentum and action to try to get headshots with Laetum... man the worst investment i could ve ever done. Been fun for about 2 hours but that was it. Also i really wanna give Stahlta and the other off meta primaries in ur video a shot especially now I finally got Gauss prime and got into some energized munitions acceltra shenanigans. Cheers!
So a bit of an update, I made the investment and got myself the Stahlta. At first very underwhelming, felt like slapping the Sp grineer but I said imma go all the way it cant be that bad. 4 Forma later I was 2 tapping them with primer and after 2 or 3 kills (deadhead) primer no longer needed. The alt fire needs 2 shots to fully kill them but switching around mods for multishot fixed that and I got very lucky buying a trash riven for it cheap and at the 4th reroll got dmg cit chance and crit dmg. Im personally more into AOE weapons but this one really takes the cake and imma be using it for netracell runs and higher content. All in all thanks man for the recommendation.
I just came back from Quitting again 2 weeks after incarnon weapons came out. I usually have felarx equipped, NEVER use incarnon form and that’s it. I’m already tracking cooldowns and timers in a chaotic game, I am in no way interested in building up some bs counter to fully utilize a weapon 😅 kuva nukor for life haha
To get the canticle mods to work on the Grimoire, all you have to do is have an enemy die by a DoT applied by a different weapon. Unload slash ticks with you primary and swap to your Grimoire before they die. They activate this way too. Also, was that Skeler I heard in the background? GREAT TASTE MY FRIEND!!!
The reason why people get the impression you hate incarnons is because how much you sighted or make fun of the shown list for adding them (which is funny cause they where also on your list). Also the cool thing about incarnons (at least genesis ones) is that they don't really requiere a particular setup like the stahlta that you put on first which kinda requires you playing certain frames to fix it's slight problems, guns like the Latron and Torid multitask without the need of setup so they are "easier to use" or at least more "accesible" while also having the option to go all in on a particular setup.
i realy wish they would remove the headshot charging and requirements in the game instead just make it more rewarding as higher damage i have tremors and without the scourge alt-throw headshots are hell.
My current fav Secondary weapon is the Kunai Incarnon i really love playing it on Ivara. Could you tell me what mods you use on the Tenet Plinx ? i just recently picked it up and it kinda feels like a Secondary Stahlta to me, im just not sure how to mod it properly.
I have both the zylok and the zylok prime, i have the incarnon adapter and i even have a zylok riven. the reason it still sits on the shelf for me and many people is because its incarnon is bugged where it doesn't account for any modded multishot, that destroyed its damage potential and de has so far neglected it, therefore, as will i.
im using CEDO on my mirage because the glaives + multishot are just OP crazyprime whole romms and kill SP stuff on its own but i kinda lack use for secondary what would you reccommend me for secondary for RAW DAMAGE that has good ammo efficiency, dosnt require too much precision, isnt status based (already have plenty of that) ,and if incarnon is easy to trigger ? prefably something like acylote killer i was thinking about book or kitguns as support (getting more power strenght) but idk, i feel like dedicated archon/acylote killer would be better dont take me wrong, i dont lack damage on cedo (priming with prety much all statuses + shotgun is great to kill eximuses) nor melee (kills everything but it relies on slash ALOT of small slashes so isnt that good aganist acylotes) but i feel i have no use for secondary atm and i want to change that by having it as acylote/boss killer i guess
Full crit/ crit damage and a riven is useful despite the low disposition. You can use pax charge on it for a fortuna arcane that will passively reload the weapon automatically. You can also equip arcane awakening on the warframe for another 150% damage but it doesn't work with pax charge. Sporelacer/haymaker/ splat.
Well almost same as aaron said but with killstream instead of splat and drop pax charge for any utility pax arcane you may like. It has really fast reload speed with killstream and won't lose any of the damage
did you say what starting element your nukor had... pretty key info if not. Someone out there just got a radiation or impact one with no idea why that's maybe not great.
16:53 I still didn't try the Kompressa and I'm farming Voruna ATM, quick question: Veruna's 2, Fangs of Raksh, just spreads the condis it creates of if I prime a enemy with this gun (or others that can do that) I can spread a lethal bomb of condis eo clear the screen? Ty.
