Best Seller Battle! 2018 Honda Accord vs Toyota Camry Expert Buyer's Guide 

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Great one Folks. Please do a mid size sedan battle including mazda 6 turbo and the optima turbo. Thanks. Great job

You guys are top class. I cant wait until you get your hands on the new A6.

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In the end you can't really go wrong with either. In Colorado, the lack of AWD on both cars is a problem. That is why Subaru sells a ton of cars here even if the Legacy is an appliance compared to these two. Nissan adding an AWD option to the 2019 Altima is also a huge deal, especially with the Altima being #2 in sales nationally behind the Camry.

I'm betting Honda puts out an AWD Accord here soon. Their Acura TLX now comes in AWD and it's amazing, and it's basically the same car just with a nicer interior and better looks (That TLX A-Spec is so pretty!). Honda has had lots of AWD cars over the years... I'm certain it's coming. SH-AWD Accord would be a best seller.

But it does help with tire wear and handling. And driving an AWD in the snow up hill is a lot easier than a FWD or RWD... so I'd say it does help. The extra weight makes it bad for stopping though.

Actually, AWD does help in the snow, especially when combined with good tires. People who say things like "AWD doesn't help in snow" don't live in places like Colorado.

I wouldn't take my FWD thru a snowstorm in the Mountains, but I'd take a Subaru or SH-AWD vehicle. For the most part though, driving around here in the winter, FWD does the trick with the right tires.

LSanti sneaking over the border...into the Ukraine. I about lost it! Lol

I have the same car. Its an SE. Its an amazing car. If you want it to go fast it really can take off.

Jee Vang he literally stated that he has the 2.0T Sport... did you even watch the video? The accord 2.0T is a 10spd automatic, and Honda has consistently been more reliable than Toyota. Check yourself before you wreck yourself mate, Have a good day.

yeah on video Accord looks prettier but in real life I've seen both cars on the road, Camry looks way better than Accord irl and on the road. On the road Accord stylings looks like any other sedans like BMW or Lexus etc, but Camry looks so sporty, unique, sparkling and charming on the road.

Too bad the v6 will last longer than the turbo

Snowy my brother has the accord, i have the camry. His is a way more fun drive, but not sure where honda is more reliable. They have made a lot of weak transmissions. Not just CVT. I also like that Toyota has dual port and direct injection preventing carbon issues inherent in GDI. Honda has known oil dilution issues in the 1.5. Choir is out on 2.0

@@iPvpTiger check yourself? Have you ever even owned a camry before? Or have talked to people who've clocked 500+ thousand km's on their cars? If you want reliability stop wasting money on touch screens and electric comforts. The money you "saved" will only go toward broken sensors and electrical problems. Buy an older car instead?

Mansour Anonimous right

Joseph _Gomes I agree

Joseph _Gomes but it’s still not correct cause both of the accords engines are turbo charged

Joseph _Gomes LOL i didn't notice it.

You still got it?

@@jonmcclane7433 Yep. And still love it.

@@mgobluevictor definitely my next car, but probably gotta wait another year. I have a 2014 Sport with only 60k on it, but want the extra power and 6 speed.

@@jonmcclane7433 The 6MT was discontinued (2019 was the last model year for it, I believe), so if u need the manual, u will need to go for used.

@@mgobluevictor you’re right, I’ve done my homework, trust me

im surprised

I doubt it. But keep smoking the pipe the Toyota dealer told you lol

When That v tec kicked in yo

guy proulx you might want to check C&D and Motortrend before you make that erroneous claim.

guy proulx yeah I think you are just making that up 😂 the 2018 accord is just extremely fast for an accord period.

John Smith same and turbocharged engine don’t last as long like. A Toyota cAmra engine

Shhhhhhh am sure they won't tell u that lol but is true toyota always kill when it comes to reliability

Can't beat a 12 second family car tho.

If only they sold the camry as a rear wheel drive. That would make it miles better but probably cut in to there lexus sails

Not like them million mile tractor trailer turbo motors that don’t last. Grow up people .

Thanks, we’re really trying to get better

Yeah they hirer a editor no shit

It's still a slow car. A v6 motor will always out run you.

Lamon Lites your wrong asf 😂😂😂

@@lamonlites8338 literally every review shows you otherwise.

@@kalookakoo5 I understand you. But why is they running a V6 against a turbo engine. My opinion the V6 is stronger. The turbo do lage a bit and can go out. Me I just think the V6 is better. I'm not going to keep this up no more. I know that all other cars that has V6 are stronger. I have drove them all. But at that stand still a turbo got to wind up.I look at all the test runs against every car you have done and I think that Honda is not that fast. But if you think so.I believe it. But all cars motor are not the same and weight limit also. Just like what I see in the Mustang. I think that car is faster then most cars but it's to heavy. Both car are great. I just like the Carmy better. Have a nice day

Camry is for retired old folks....Toyota design this car for elder folks. Jeeez

I love my accord 2.0T 2019

Do either of you still have it?

@@hutzman7664no, sold it a few years ago

A 3 liter 300 hp 300 ft-lbs VR30DDTT anyone. A used Q50 3.0T may float your boat.

So... Kia Stinger?

@@turbodarkle So Q50 Redsport

@@mr.casanova7145 it's nice, but it's about $15,000 more than a Stinger GT

@@turbodarkle yeah i know The only problem for infiniti here in my countriy Saudi Arabia is the dealer each 2 years new dealer take the brand But kia and hundai dealer is good

Mike Pearis agreed. I prefer a v6 for its refinement vs a turbo 4.

Mr. Ash which doesn't make up most of their sales.

Mr. Ash well thats stupid, is that Toyota fault

That's bullshit. I work at a hotel in Waikiki. There are lots of Honda Accords, Civics, and HRV's parked in our guest parking. Why do Honda fanboys make up this crap?

The accord, Camry and sonata are use for taxi all over New York city

jgijoe and I work for a Honda Dealership in Arizona. They don’t make up this crap. It’s true. Why do toyota fan boys make up THIS crap? Don’t believe me? Look at resale values of any Honda vs Toyota. Trim to trim in the used market right now ?

Matt Speer just like the Accord doesn't have a real audio system, 360 camera and a panoramic sunroof. The only options toyota needs is their CarPlay update and the memory seats which 2019 will likely add. I dont see how anyone can bare the audio system in the Accord.

Um...the audio system in the Accord Touring sounds significantly better than the joke "upgrade" JBL system in the higher end Camrys. Believe me, I tested that aspect out thoroughly as a good sound system is one of my primary concerns when buying a new vehicle. The one in the Camry was pretty bad. Very muddy sound. Who needs a 360 deg camera in a family sedan that has great visibility out of it? If offered on the Accord, would I take it? Yes. But that's not an essential feature. Memory/cooled seats are way more important to me. What makes you think Toyota will add memory seats in 2019? Typically major changes don't happen until the mid-cycle refresh, which won't happen until 2021 for the Camry. Even then, I can't see them adding memory seats. They "reserve" features like memory seats and cooled seats for the Avalon. Pretty dumb since most of the Camry's competitors offer that stuff now.

Matt Speer sorry bud but if you think the audio system in the touring accord is better than the JBL uiu have completely lost your mind. In fact hire just a flat out liar.... there are even RU-vid comments of owners that talk about how bad the Accord sound system is. There is know way you compared the two audio systems so you must work for Honda. The Accord doesn't even have name brand speakers and every other car brand has name brand speakers. Nice try...

Matt Speer I'll leave this here.. Enjoy the car no one wants and my local dealer has over 300 in stock and even my Honda salesman I've known for years says he hopes they redesign soon. www.chicagotribune.com/classified/automotive/sc-auto-tips-honda-accord-not-selling-20180319-story.html

Wow, you really are ignorant about car sound systems if you think a name brand like JBL equals high quality sound, lol. You are probably a big fan of Bose systems, too. No I don't work for Honda. This is the first Honda I have owned since 2007 (was actually an Acura TSX). I have owned two Hyundais and one Genesis in the interim. I used to own a Camry in the early 2000s. I thoroughly test drove both the new Accord and new Camry twice, and the Accord was clearly superior. Why do you think it is that zero car magazines have given the Camry a win over the Accord in a comparison test? The best phrase comparing the two I've heard is: "Toyota built a better Camry. Honda built a better car." Pretty simple. But you are obviously a Toyota fan boy who can't handle someone sharing FACTS that paint the Camry in a negative light.

Thanks for the kind words!

DETUNED engine. Different pistons, higher pressure fuel pump, cams, and turbo. Hondata would help with that but the limiting factor is fuel pump and a smaller turbo for the accord to make it somewhat of a type-r

Ziakel I know it's detuned, but I like to say it has a Type R engine anyways lol.

Jeniel Motoring ur mom

buzman1985 your aunt

Jeniel Motoring eww i love the camry sport iss the fastes

Ugly! Accord. My 2015 is much better

@@KingLouOG looks better yes runs better no

S thats what im sayong its stupid dumb looking👎👎😒

They rear lights look like two lobster claws to me.

I don't like the rear end I think future redesign will go back to the old design for sure.

@@sengyang6780 No I definitely don't think they will be going back to old design but refining the current one

fkn ugly is what it looks like... lol

You are most welcome!

The Fast Lane Car you guys are bias latino fellow said that he was flew out by Honda in his last video?Lol

jgijoe dude! Most of all this reviewer's always get invited to review cars by manufacturers.

Both are boring as hell.

Nathaniel Rudolph And neither of us asked for your opinion

Perk Here still boring and bland

Dick City I agree 100%

Both you guys were screaming off roof tops about the Camry has "301" and how it was going to beat the 2.0t in the accord....now it doesn't matter...gotta love you Toyo boys lmao

Rabea almahmoudi i don’t think it was a fair enough test considering turbo engines do better a mile above sea level

The Saurus IKR!!

It's very much fair. There's a lot of people that live at elevation and goes to show how important a real world test is, rather than number fudging that goes with magazine reviews (hint: they don't get the numbers they quote - it's computationally adjusted to SAE testing standards)

oldtwins na of course, we respect the effort and trust the results. I'm just stating that it could be different

Rabea almahmoudi you're absolutely correct

I can imagine. I have an XSE with the 4 banger....that thing ain't no slouch.

V6 Camrys are insanely fast.

Yeah, I got back issues and camry feels much better in that regard the ride is so smooth and quiet.

Pislui Honda is struggling to move the accords right now. It's to point where they have to lower the price on them. I use to love the accord but now it looks like a fake Audi A7.

Pislui they chose them for low maintenance and reliability. I think that's a compliment. Only people that don't work for a living see that as a negative. Good to see working small business people buying the best for their business. Both are great cars, but at his is the first Turbo Accord. People are waiting how reliable it turns out.

If you don't count fleet sales the accord does sell more than the Camry. Also the main reason the Camry is still selling well and the accord isn't is because of dealer and lease incentives. If you take equally equipped camrys and accords the Camry can be leased for 219 a month with 1999 due at signing where the accord is 249 a month with 3999 due at signing. It's Toyota that's lowering the price to move cars, Honda isn't so sales are slowing. Honda has openly admitted this and says they are fine with it.

TurboNFRStwoK / that's the excuse Honda has been using for years. In fact, since 1990, when someone out sells them.The Accord is an amazing car, and anyone that buys one will be getting a great car, but not a great deal in pricing. The Honda Dealership network has been complaining for months for incentives, the car is priced out of the Market. There's strong competition in that category. The Toyota Camry is an amazing car. The Dealership network is very happy with the car. There's customers are getting a good car for a great price. To downplay the Camry is a mistake. It's a great car.

TurboNFRStwoK / again, those are called incentives. Second, Honda has lots of left over 2017's, especially in Los Angeles, the real reason that don't have specials on the new one, is because they gave away the 2017's, and still need to sell the left overs. You are reading Honda's press release. The fleet sales the Camry has to date is not as high as you think. The Camry can easily hold its own against the Accord, it's just they know what the going rate on what the free market will pay for one. Honda is selling tons of CRV's, and current market will pay full price on the CRV, not the Accord. Toyota recognizes that the mid size market is soft, but they don't want to give up on it. The have the RAV4 for what the market demands. They know that with the way things are, you can't get top dollar for a midsize sedan. Honda says they're fine with it, but not their dealerships. Don't read press releases, go out in the market. Talk to people in the field. Look up the trade magazines on line, ( not the meaningless advertising Road and track, Car and Driver), and you'll get a better understanding of the Automarket. Nissan's Altima is improved, and will be priced aggressively. Toyota is trying to get all the sales they can to get word of mouth, expose the car to enough people to have a successful 2019. If Honda doesn't change strategy, they are going to lose midsize sedan share next year. Mazda stepped up too. It's not just the Camry to worry about.

Fanboy

offcourse you would say this

In your dreams looser That accord will be at the recycling yard within 3 years with that garbage unreliable turbo engine

yellow98gt "loser" for having an opinion. That's the logic you angry butt hurt Toyota fans have.

guy proulx The 2.3 turbo in the RDX is doing just fine 11 years later. This is Honda not GM or BMW.

2 months to go

Dante E did you get it?

Rebel Rouser yea specially in person the accord is lower and wider which creates a better stance

seeing them in person has that effect. The rear 3/4 could use a tweak, but its not bad by any means.

really grows on me as well. The only problem is the fake chrome exhausts. If you get a chance to touch one, do it and they feels like you can just rip them off.

I don't mind the tail light design, but can't really stand that fugly front facia of the Accord at all.

10tenman10 wait that doesnt make sense. The higher the altitude, the denser the air, the denser the air, the less oxygen for the motor. So how does that have any effect on the accord vs the Camry. (I agree with the V6 being more reliable though)

Because the turbocharger maintains the same performance as lower altitudes because it uses exhaust gases to operate. Whereas the Camry's naturally aspirated engine has to rely all on the air. And no, the higher the altitude, the thinner the air. If the air is denser then it means there's more oxygen.

Matte Exactly! People need to drive their cars up here at altitude to fully understand. Not that it was a better car, but my Cobalt SS Turbocharged was faster in a quarter mile than my buddies Mustang GT.

wrong. The density of air decreases with height. There are two reasons: at higher altitudes, there is less air pushing down from above, and gravity is weaker farther from Earth's center. So at higher altitudes, air molecules can spread out more, and air density decreases

Thivakar saravanamuthu you cant say “I drive a Camry” and feel or even look like a bad ass tho. ! Lol

The Accord looks better than Camry

Yeah the Camry is ugly tho

For once Toyota brings out a good looking car.

The Camry looks incredible in the white/black theme.

Barbara Schenck that's because they're over a mile above sea level which favors turbos. The air is thinner at those levels but the forced induction of the turbo gives it the advantage

Barbara Schenck The Camry weights 200 pounds more which makes a difference.

Accord still faster at sea level

Barbara Schenck motor trend had the numbers the same from 0 60 these guys are payed by Honda the latino guys says it in his last video when he compared the Honda touring and camry xle, also they say they went to higher elevation to help the honda accord

keri ellerbe also has almost 30 more horses

Thank you for the feedback.

Huge is an understatement. I wish reviewers covered the audio system.

I don’t think many people care THAT much.. that’s why if a audio system isn’t that amazing just get a wayyyy better stereo system installed. Yeah it’s money but the audio systems installed in cars don’t last long at all if you blast it! Lol

The Camry XSE V6 has a 9-speakers JBL Synthesis Audio System. I am an audiophile and the sound stage in the Camry is very good. Never heard the Accord though, so I cannot comment.

Douglas Snodgrass the only people who dont care are people who have never had a good audio system in their car. People have complained the audio system in the Accord is worse than a Chevy cavalier or Altima from over 10 years ago. It's just terrible.

That LE Plus is geared toward fuel economy. Its no surprise. But in the long run the Camry will cost less to operate and be far more reliable!

Shawn Bremer me too I think the Mazda would win. It's probably lighter than the Accord and Camry

mazda is actually slower than both

According to Edmunds the Mazda 6 is about 130lbs heavier than the Accord. I like the Accord and Mazda 6 best in this class. I've driven the Accord 1.5T a few months back and the Mazda 6 2.5T yesterday, both felt great but would have to drive them (2.0T Accord) back to back to really compare NVH, steering, throttle, ride etc.

What other company offers an entry level family sedan with a manual? It had more driving dynamics than the Accord when I bought mine. 80k problem free miles so far.

Mazda6 is available with a 2.5L N/A engine and a 6sp manual

You have room for a 3k sound system on the Accord... LOL 😆

I hate the Honda speakers I think Camry is better

yes!! honda stereo speakers are trash!!