Best Submissions! Womens Judo at Tbilisi Grand Slam 2023 Day 1 

could have killed her ... the leg was already shaking early

Shocking! I never want to see someone still being choked when they are already out. Ref needs to do better in future

judo referees are so useless. they be like "if he (she) dies, he (she) dies"

Haha, just took him about 10 seconds and tori letting go to notice it

IJF refs are infamous for letting the choked out judoka see Valhalla.

@@killer3000ad Or, as much as it pains me to say this, they just don't recognize what is actually going on on the ground...

Do these refs even practice judo? There is a pattern since the Grand Slam Paris 2023. Some of these refs are extremely inexperience and don’t know what’s going on the ground :/

@@Fqq69337 Sadly this is modern Judo in many places. Ground game gets completely cut off unless its about holding a pin - or escaping it, usually by going to turtle. I am still baffled by the fact that 99% of Judo players have absolutely no guard, no retention, no recovery, nothing.

Its sadly pretty common in judo competitions. Specially bow and Arrow chokes

Yea that ref sucks How do they even get a position like that with such little knowledge on what an unconscious person looks like in a grappling match

I'am not surprised. It is one of the most beautiful transitions to newaza. Here is really great execution of it.

I just added another vid with a sankaku-jime. I will do something on tate-shiho in the future. By rib crusher, do you mean the type of pinning where they pull the bottom of the jacket across the stomach?

Not likely, Judo already has its own Newaza System. Influence by BJJ? not likely. In BJJ, Newaza is a slow pace while Judo is hard and fast.

@@m5a1stuart83 Hi, yes, it definitely has influenced it and in some Judo tournmanets now, time on ground is extended. Many Judoka cross-train in BJJ skill-sets. As I said, I trained Judo pre-UFc/BJJ and groundwork/ne-waza, most due to time limits and rules, was much more basic in application.

Influenced how? Styles of attack? What does that even mean? All I saw was classic Judo.

@@zartic4life The lack of time limits or in sport BJJ, extended time limits, and the early emphasis on refinement through prize fighting changed it much from Judo.I trained Judo in the early 80s through to mid-1990s and ne waza strategy, most of the time, a few seconds given, was different. Strategies and tactics from guard, etc. that never existed began to develop in probably the late 1970s with more people practicing in Brazil. I trained with Judoka from Korea, Poland, the U.S., and France and never saw or experienced most of what constituted to systemization of techniques with in BJJ, and strategies and tactics. There were basic essences and early BJJ was very similar albeit with fighting applications. BJJ cross-training started in Judo, at least here, in the late 1990s, and BJJ refined the ne waza of many Judoka who only had a cursory techniques. Now, there are many Judoka who cross-train in BJJ groundwork.

@@turntablesrockmyworld9315 im not sure what tactics youre refering to and what refinement? Watch some Kosen (ruleset) Judo. Newaza is an extension (not seperate like BJJ) of tachi in other words your position will be very different than in bjj where almost always in somones guard. Not a great place to be as Khabib illustrated (ground and pound) something Judo refers to as a "last resort after a failed attempt" as it should be in any self defence scenario. My point is BJJ has nothing over Judo when it comes to ground techniques and the tactics used are a result of BJJ rulesets and lack of stand up. The ground game that Judo implements is far more effective in any serious confrontation instead of the playful "flow", jumping guard and butt scooting you see in BJJ. Not a smart tactic in any real world scenario. Just compare the speed and intensity of Judo newaza vs BJJ. I'll pick the first one for any combat situation. I'll ignore the fact BJJ has almost no stand up something that is critical for any self defence and will allow for more effective newaza if necessary. If I throw you I wont be in your guard I'll either be in side control, on top, or on your back. Then you can use newaza to finish not play transition and tactical games with your opponent something BJJ people cant seem to wrap their heads around.

brazilian tap 😅😅😅

@@manueldelapaz4450 you son of??????

the submissions don't need to be agressive to win a match

@@ermelemoon7104 Sorry, I meant aggressive in terms of willingness to attempt them at a greater frequency, not aggressive by simply muscling/forcing a submission without any degree of control.

@@rafaelcarrera9436 I think, with all of respect, that is not the strenght or the frequency, is more the timing or the moment of the execution ^^

It's a differnt mindset in judo the best sub is the fastest you only have a small window 3 seconds or less to even try for a submission before ref stand you up and in judo you can not be passive you always have to be tring to win or you will get a shido for being passive.

Not true

yes, mainly throws. but this is a ne waza channel. as in, submissions. very much still a thing

Is that not the idea with the sport?

@@andersnielsen6044 The idea of the sport isn’t to kill your opponent dummy. She was unconscious for 7 or 8 seconds still getting choked and the referee did not stop the choke. No, that’s not the point of the sport.

It's a sport for animals.

@@nn22939 the participants are only focusing on winning their match. It seems that any humanitarian sensibility goes out the window once they start grappling, so it’s up to the ref to protect any Judokas from serious injuries but that’s not the case because the refs all appear to be incompetent.

Judo is Jujitsu (JJJ->Judo->BJJ). The viscousness comes from the fact your not watching a BJJ match.

Almost? Somebody has never seen Ryoko Tani roll aka "Timura" the GOAT of female grapplers.

Суддя не компетентний, не баче серйозність проведення техніки, ще й замість того щоб виконати дії з відновлення спортсмена стоїть маше руками, ганьба.

1980's judo International organisations decided to make judo more watchable for non judoka eg the Olympics with the belief it would become more popular. Yes they destroyed 100 years of history and organic Judo development for that reason. I switched to bjj and mma because I learned my judo in the 80's from guys who in the 60's were taught by guys who learned in the 40's. It wasn't so long ago in a generational sense.

@@boogboog8097 are you saying that at a time it was closer to BJJ than it is today?

@@healtheworld2059 Yes look up Kosen judo.

@@healtheworld2059 Yes, 1980s Judo and BJJ were basically the same

I don't feel like it's evolved, it's gone back to the roots and started using all of its techniques again. One of the problems with combat sports that have olympic representation is they get watered down into ONLY the techniques that consistently score points at the olympic level. It happened with judo, karate and TKD.

Bjj people do not understand the intesty of judo from standing to the ground the speed the strength sometimes you have no time to defend why didn't royce defend the Ezekiel choke from yoshida

@@Karen-fs6lf is not criticism is only a doubt. I dont see any trying to defend the arm lock. Even if I couldn't, I would try.

@@designbookInc judo is very Quick and powerfull. Your arm can get locked up before you have time to react. Sometimes you expect a hold and then suddenly they got your arm

Because that's what happens when you don't ignore the stand up portion of Jujitsu.

you've gotta be kidding

Depends. They need to Land on their back to score a point. Or else they need to submit or held down clean on their back

Yes she was alright very quickly. It wasn't as dangerous as looked it. Her neck is alright too. When Tori (attacker) use this technique she trying to tight up opponent's collar around opponent's neck as here. It is ok. Uke (defender) can tap and Tori have to finish attack. But here Uke is out before tap. You can see how Tori showed it to referee at 3:37 and she loosens opponent's collar little bit. But referee doesn't react and she forced tight again...Problem is referee's behaviour he could call ippon earlier and to finish match immediately.

@@judojudo3808 : I didn't even see when tori showed that she was already out at 3:37... but i noticed how her body became soft right away and i knew was out... The referee's shocking incompetence forced tori to continue to choke out even longer after she already had been out.... That could of been quiet dangerous and every second counts and that idiot would of been responsible. I would allow that guy to referee any judo matches of any level or any other sports ever again.

@@marlon1171 Yes Tori (white judoka) is comunicating obviously at 3:37 with referee and left hand shows him that opponent is out. You look this moment better because she feels that opponent is out.

If she was alright she would never had taken part of this male-entertaining freak show of destruction!

@@andersnielsen6044 Excuse me. You know anything about this sport probably.

weird comment

Dolph is too big for Judo.