BEST Washing Machines for 2024 MIELE vs INDESIT | Premium vs Budget | Shop Smart Save Money S1 E11 

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You are skipping the most important parts- longevity, cost of repair, and spares availability.

We had a Miele 26yrs until it finally broke down. The engineer said it had done 20,000 hrs of washing and was passed its expected life, so we bought another. In the early 2000's we had a beauty business where all the towels etc were washed by this machine 6 days a week for a year, hence the high usage. Just for reference my daughter has had 3 cheap ones in just over 12yrs.

Any chance that The Gadget Show can open up both machines to investigate the design, build quality, component quality and repairability in a later edition? It would be interesting to see how they compare.

Our last Miele washing machine was 19 years and was still going strong when we upgraded it to a new Miele washing machine when we refitted the utility room. The old washing machine was run twice a day everyday (sports kit) so got more than standard use in those 19years. Our vacuum cleaner is a 23 year old Miele Cat and Dog that is still going strong despite some serious abuse during various builds and remodelling of the house. They might be expensive to buy but they last and just work.

We bought our Miele washing machine over 20 years ago, after getting fed up with budget washing machines only lasting 2 years.

All a washing machine actually does, is fills with water, mixes it with detergent, heats that soapy water and then swills the laundry around in that heated soapy water for a given time. So it’s logical to conclude that the cleaning ability of a machine will be similar, regardless of price. The benefits of a premium machine are reliability, longevity and most important to me, as I have an open plan living space, is noise level. My old Hoover used to dance round the kitchen when it reached 1600 spin speed, and sound like a clapped out jet plane leaving the runway. My new, premium machine is virtually silent when it reaches its maximum spin speed of 1800rpm. A bit like the difference between cruising down the motorway at 70mph in a 1000cc Fiat. Then cruising along the motorway at 70mph in a 3.5l Mercedes. They both do the sane job, but the benefits of the premium car, are in my opinion, well worth the higher initial outlay!

I’ve had a very similar indesit for 8 years now. No problems, no repairs, has been heavily used. These are great machines for the money

The Miele they tested WED164 is a Poland made machine with a Glaron K outer drum. Miele now have a cheaper range of machines made in Poland. Only the machines £999 and over are made in Germany, these have cast iron weights and stainless steel outer drums. I don’t know if there is a difference in quality, there shouldn’t be if the Glaron K plastic drums are splittable for the bearings to be replaced, rather than a sealed drum. My Miele washer is 17 years old, “A proper Miele” made in 2006, it has a heavy stainless steel Metal door with an electric push door button opening and perspexed control panel to stop the text being wiped off which is absent on the new machines. A lot of manufacturers have cheapened the quality of their machines in order to compete with price by cost cutting. But when you cut manufacturing costs, you cut quality and reliability.

Skipped the fact that the Miele will probably go for years. Ours is over 17 years old, never broken down and runs silently. Built like a tank. It’s also software upgradable. You get what you pay for.

Miele every time. I’d even buy a secondhand one if I couldn’t afford new. Vastly superior durability, longevity and build quality. I also like that they’re relatively simple machines, with little by way of silly gimmicks. Mine is currently 6 years old, and still going strong. My trusty Miele vacuum cleaner is 15 years old, and apart from needing a couple of minor components replacing due to wear, has outlasted 2 Dysons and a completely useless Panasonic cleaner.

We've used Miele for decades - we have also used budget machines in the past. It's worth every penny investing in a premium machine, they just don't break down and have outstanding wash capability.

Knowing nothing about washing machines I bought a Miele about 20 years ago, it’s so simple to use and is still perfect (let’s hope I am not tempting fate) My partner in that time has had 4 washing machines which are stupidly over complicated. Furthermore when she has a particular piece of laundry she asks me to wash it as she states that the Miele washes much better. I have to take her word on that. Also my neighbour and close friend has had five, yes five washing machines in the same period. All were ‘trendy’ types. He’s just bought a Miele and is now hooked. Yep, you definitely get what you pay for.

I used to sell Miele washing machines and customers always said the same thing. Ours is 15 years old, looks brand new and now my daughter has it, so please sell me a new one. Indesit customers were not always the happiest...

Which one will last longer and is better value longer term? I was expecting a teardown showing how the machines compare for quality of parts, longevity and repairability.

I go halfway with Bosch. I am not keen on Indesit. A few years ago I trusted them with something simpler, a fridge freezer. It was frost free and kept getting warm, 12°C in the fridge. Phoned them under warranty and after immediately trying to sell me an extended warranty they told me to unplug it for 3 hours to get rid of "ice build up", and if an engineer came out to look at my (frost free) freezer and found "ice build up" I'd be charged £90 call out. I was stuck with a frost free model that I had to essentially defrost.

I've got a Siemens washing machine, have had it over 6 years and touch wood still working strong I have got a Miele dish washer and a year after having it it needed a new circuit board but still going strong after 5 years I think it's fair to say that nowadays, no product is made to last, we just live in a throwaway society

My previous Miele lasted 32 years and was used for multiple washes on a daily basis. It didn’t need an engineer visit in all that time. I doubt any other make of machine would last that long and this video comparison has not taken into account build quality

Ive found that any washing machine will remove stains on comparable cycles. But oddly rinseing performance, fabric softner distribution and spin performance dose differ greatly on comparable cycles (other than Eco 40-60). Indesits can last 15 years without issues. But will most likly be gone before 10 year mark. Parts and part availability is cheap and ive not known parts to be unavailable even on models that are 20 years old. Miele will supply parts for 20 years for every model. But part prices are expensive and the majority can only come from miele themselves.

I was fortunate enough to spend large amounts of time with my Italian and German grandparents as a child and teen and then as a student. My German grandmother's Miele was there from before I was born and ran through my university years. My Italian grandmother's Miele arrived with me (diapers!) and also ran over 20 years. Neither machine ever needed service. I'm not knocking INDESIT, but it would be good to do a 500 load test on each machine and then see where they are at.

Many people say their Miele lasted 20 years. Doesn't mean a new Miele will last as long. I have had 3 Bosch washer-dryers and apparent construction quality has steadily dropped. The first was seriously solid but my local water kept destroying the heating elements. Second had a relatively slow spin so drying cost more. Current (made in China) has had a single fault which was easy to fix after 10 years. Note that I sold the earlier machines still in working order after about 15 years.

Purchased my Miele in 2007. Never gone wrong, never let me down. When it packs in I'm going to get it repaired..I hope.

I agree my neighbour has had beko zanussi and a Hotpoint in the 13 years I’ve had my 1 Miele and my machine is on twice every day 4 kids 2 adults when you calculate the costs of the 3 machines it’s almost the price if not over the price of a budget range Miele

Good test! Coming from an appliance expert, todays machines are basically the same in terms of performance on getting rid of stains, rinsing, spinning etc. just every brand doing it in their own unique ways. At the end of the day it's all about choice and trust, what brand has proven to be reliable to you and how much money you're willing to spend on it. Personally I'd choose the budget Indesit, if it gets rid of around the same amount of stains the Miele did and for it to be 6x cheaper I'd say it's more worth it. But some customers worry about the reliability of how long the machine will last with them. At the end of the day everyone uses their washing machines differently, some just chucking it on a quick wash or regularly doing long hot washes etc. And that's what's worrying about our machines today, they're not built like they're used to be, some don't last long, usually averaging 2 to 5 years if lucky, even Miele can fail in that time span! If this video proves that both the premium and budget machine performs almost identically then it just concludes that it doesn't matter what you buy, it's about what you trust 🤷

I had myself 25 year old Miele and comparing it to the 3 year old Miele W1 is a joke. W1 already broke down. As a repair guy, I can tell you that for the last 8-10 years, Miele is not what it used to be.

Had a Miele for 15 years still going strong, One service repair for the front rubber which was my fault left screw driver in my pocket.

My first indesit, with one set of motor brushes changed lasted 23 years. The latest one with no required servicing has lasted so far 10 years

Our Miele has been faultless for the past 5 years, although when I was younger I had an Indesit that lasted 12 years. Miele machines feel very well made, and is a good bit heavier too. Was really the 10 year warranty that attracted me to Miele.

I’ve had my AEG 21 years without any failures, I think that’s the true test !

I have read many comments postulating that the Miele washing machine will last much longer than the Indesit one: based on my experience I would not be so sure, for several reasons. I am maintaining both a Miele (my mother's) and an Indesit (my own): the Miele is now almost 30 years old, but it has broken down at least 8 times, starting quite early, when it was just a few years old. The Indesit, on the other hand, is now about 18 years old and I never needed to repair it, although the two machines have more or less the same workload (actually in the last 10 years the Indesit has been used more intensively). It is true, the build quality of the Miele is better and the materials are far better, but, at least in my case, it breaks down much more often. The Miele looks more or less the same as when it was new, the Indesit has a few cosmetic defects: some rust where liquid detergent has been dropped by mistake, but they have no consequence in terms of the operation. When the Miele was purchased, it was more or less 4 times more expensive than an equivalent Indesit: one could still justify the difference in price based on the better materials, but, fixing the Miele so many times, I have realized of a (fatal, in my opinion) problem with the Miele business model: their spare parts are ridiculously priced, so ridiculously that in most cases it is not worth repairing the machine if original parts are to be used (even without considering labor costs, as in my case). The first time the Miele failed was because of a defective PCB trace in the push-button assembly: I went to the local Miele spare part dealer and I was asked for the equivalent of more than 100 Euros for the replacement part (back then the Euro did not exist yet). I decided to fix the PCB soldering a wire that bypassed the damaged trace. A year later another trace failed, and I fixed it in a similar way. Then it was the time of a relay: at Miele they wanted to charge 75 Euros for the spare part: I cut the connector and soldered the wires on a 2 Euro relay, which performed the exact same function. Then it was the time of the water inlet valves: the Miele price was over 130 Euros: I found a Chinese clone on ebay for about 30 Euros. Then the motor control board failed: at Miele they asked over 300 Euros for a replacement board: I fixed the board by replacing a 50 cent capacitor. Next to fail was the drain pump: again at Miele they wanted over 100 Euros and I found a Chinese part for 30 Euros. The most recent failure was just the motor brushes: I got them for 24 Euros (those were probably original Miele parts, although I purchased them form a multi-brand spare part store). Therefore, if I was not repairing it by myself and with non-Miele parts, I would have considered the Miele washing machine a total loss just after 10 years or even earlier. Clearly, this is from the observation of just two machines, but the absurd pricing of the Miele spare parts is beyond any doubt and is the reason why I will never purchase a Miele appliance again. By the way, so far the reasonably prices Chinese spare parts I used to repair the Miele have worked flawlessly, proving more resilient than the original ones.

I rarely fixed a miele, Indesit made me tons of money, and they started to require repair at quite a young age, now I haven't been in the industry for over 18 year's so reliability might well have improved.

I still have my WKR771 WPS and it's still going amazing and the matching tumble dryer also I have a W5962 brought in 2006 and it still runs smoothly with all original parts

You also missed about comparing reliability, longevity and build quality. Not a very fair test.

Take the lid off and compare what is inside then you will appreciate the longevity of a Miele. Our is 25yrs old goes daily and lived in the back of a garage in Yorkshire. All I’ve done is replaced the brushes + door seal (OEM) and 3 shock absorbers (e-bay) and it’s as quiet as the day it arrived. Today, to get a SS outer drum on a Miele you need to buy the 9kg version as the 8kgs now have plastic outer drums.

I wish they repeated that last stain test with a quick wash as just about everyone I know of does all their washing on the quick wash setting due to 3+ hour length of the main wash cycles on modern washing machines.

After many years experience of performance and price on all kitchen miele appliances, gas hobs , ovens , hoods ,combination ovens , dishwashers , washing machines etc their life and performance are fab plus my 18yr old washing machine needed and engineer and their fixed price repair or no fee was fab..

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What was the warranty for each machine? Thats what I look for first.

No offence to the Gadget Show, but this is the problem with 'TV' on RU-vid, it is superficial. Everyone wants to know about the longevity of these appliances. A proper RU-vid version of this "test" would have been done by a washing machine repair professional.

I think we need to consider their spin speed efficiency as well as their treatment to delicate clothes. Seeing from the video the design of the inner drum of the Miele one, believe there should be less damages to the fabrics by the drum; you know sometimes getting snags and pills. Plus spinning is really important, most budget washing machines, clothes are really wet despite the strongest and noisiest spin. Agreed with some of the comments above, most washing machines these days can wash clothes just fine, after all the same physics and quite dependent on whether you pretreated your clothes.

I've got a Zanussi thats around 20 yrs old & used around once a week, its still perfect. I have visited people that have had all Bosch equipment & quite often has gone wrong within 12 months. I prefer a fairly basic model of any white goods as there's less to go wrong & easier & cheaper to repair. I would not buy the most expensive items But I wouldnt go for the cheapest on the market either. When i purchased my old Zanussi from the now defunct Comet store, they had a " show piece" of a 1940's washing machine on display that proudly stated " It still works" !! It did look like a bit of a monster but still done the washing. Probably NOT built to a budget, like modern garbage that plays a funky tune once finished & looks like the cockpit of a jumbo jet

I suppose in a snapshot its difficult to prove anything? Realistically, someone able to afford a Miele is unlikely to look at the Indesit and if you struggle to pay for an Indesit a Miele will be way out of your league of affordability. It would make more sense to pit the Indesit against a Bosch which is another German premium brand. From my experience in the Electrical Appliance trade Miele are lovely machines but somewhat over engineered. A favourite demonstration trick was to get a 10p coin and try a scratch the enamel surface of the Miele which was almost impossible to damage! You wouldn't try that with a cheaper machine. Over the years we have owned one Miele and a couple of Bosch washing machines. Unless money is of no consequence probably the Bosch represents the best value. Our current Bosch is 13 years old and still going strong, unless this comment puts a curse on it!

We have 20 year old Miele machines with no issues but personally I’m not sure whether I would trust the new stuff to be reliable, especially as parts will be extortionate. They have gotten more complex over the years and cost cutting has embraced the entir industry

I have owned both Indesit and Miele washing machines. Both indesit lasted 4 years each , before dying , the first Miele lasted 12 years , the second one is now 7 years old and still going. Total spend on Indesits was £600 , so £75 per year. Miele total cost £900 , so £48 per year .. easy winner PS I did get the second Miele from thier returns shop for £350 , it hadnt been used and had a small scratch on the door

My Indesit washer dryer is currently 14 years old, moved to 3 houses and still running fine with no issues at any point. I order for a model 3 times the price to be "better value" it'd need to last 42 years. I don't think I've got another 42 years in me, so I'll stick with a cheap one again when this ones dies. Sure, it's noiser than premium models, but it's in the laundry room so I just close the door and you then can't hear it.

Before buying look up how much spares like bearing assemblies are and if there are videos on how to replace them. In my AEG Lavamat they have started to go at 5 years but replacement was 30GBP in parts and 2h in my time. Hope it is good for another 5 years.

Sorry for my english. If you wash 3-5 times a week with small loads, and you have separated dry place for the washing machine, buy Indesit. If you have money, and wash more or you put the washing machine in bathroom or other high humidity area, you should buy Miele. We wash more with Indesit (no money for better), it placed in bathroom, and the machine is rusty from its 1 years old, and had to replace control panel after 2 years and replace other parts after 3 years. I bought it with extended warranty/insurance till 5 years (machine was cheaper with insurance too than a next level machine) We have to call the insurance hotline (luckily still insurance period) to send repairman again because the machine started clicky noises when it wash.

Interesting! I think its easy to see the marketing and think the more expensive model will perform better, be cheaper to run etc

I have a Nearly 40 year old Miele washer/dryer and still going well, will the cheap Italian do the same? I think not.

I was never a fan of a front loader. I have been using top loaders for about 40 years and never looked back. I never wash in lukewarm or hot water. It has always been cold water, as you get better washing results with a top range washing powder.

If the recent Mieles will last for at least 15-20 years I'd consider it. I've had 2 washing machines, both second hand. A 1998 Marijnen which I've had from 2005 till 2022. It was still working good, never should have sold it. Now I have a 2019 Hotpoint since I repair these machines for a living and wanted something newer.

Which machine will be knackered first and end up as scrap to recycle of end up in landfill is a bigger concern

I have a 22 year old Miele, they are designed to give 20 years of life making them more sustainable, when one considers emissions from manufacture. This important aspect was overlooked in the test.

The items used for testing made me laugh😂. They are some of the cleanest examples of garments found in those industries! Next time try some “real-world” examples such as tea towels from a commercial kitchen environment; used to soak up fat and grease from clean down, or plumbers shorts; smeared in silastic, a mechanics shirt; covered in grease, or the rugby jerseys; embedded with grass stains. I have Asko machines (used for commercial kitchen tea towels and linen) and they far outperform Miele for wash quality and items lasting longer. I have also had a Miele Professional washer and dryer and they still don’t wash as well as Asko. (The Miele Professional dryer was very good though) The Asko machines have a 5yr warranty compared to Miele’s 2yrs and Asko’s parts are more easily available and less expensive. Overall the Asko machines look, feel and function better than Miele (IMO).

I feel like there should have a part two of this review where they source a 10 year old machine from these two manufacturers. I'd imagine the Melie will not only have lasted longer before repairs were required, but is also more serviceable than the cheaper unit, if it even made 10 years. Perhapps a cost per year of service would been a better metric 🤔

I agree with longevity and cost of parts. However I have an Indesit and it has been hammered and lasted 9 years. Can't beat the 26 years. However 3x cost ie 3x9 = 27 yrs. Are they both the same!

Had good experiences with Indesit in the past, lasting several years. When moving 11 years ago I bought a Samsung washing machine. It broke down after 11 years. Fixed it myself (drum bearing took water due to coins stuck between drum axle and seal). Replaced the seal and bearing in 1hour for 35 euro (and bought the brand parts, could go cheaper with no name parts). When I opened up the machine I noticed it still looked like new (belt, motor, pump, drum, etc...) and it cost me 800 euro in the day (12kg model). Just saying that there are other brands than Miele which (for less money) also offer a good experience. It even came with 10 years of warranty on the motor. Due to this I bought a Samsung dryer with heating pump to replace my Wirlpool (yes another budget brand) one to save electricity. That one was also still running strong, although the plastic front had yellowed after +15 years of service. I think you got to have a bit of luck with all electronic/mechanical stuff you buy and use it like intended, not forcing it to the limits.

I am sure both washing machines wash to more or less the same standard, this video is proof of that. As many pointed out, it is more about how long it will last. I've had an Indesit from 2002 till 2008. It did it's job and I never had to repair it. When I moved to another city the apartment I rented had a Miele Washing machine so I decided to leave the old one to the new tenants which were also friends of mine. They had to change it in 2011. I'm not sure what happened to it but they told me that repairing would cost more than a new one. The Miele I received with the apartment was already nearly 20 years old (1989), at the time I though I should have kept the one I had before well... here I am January 3rd 2024 and my Miele is still running. I had to have it repaired only once, in 2018 the suspension gave up, that costed me 75 pounds. In the end I believe Miele are better machines overall: better built and sturdier than a budget one. The cost to repair it varies wildly. Where I live now there are two authorized Miele services; one downtown and the other outside the city but their price list is quite different and I mean really different. I would also like to point out that a Miele at almost nine hundred pounds is not their top of the line, so the brand might be premium and the machine good enough but the top of the line nearly doubles that price (the one I have costed almost seven hundred pounds... in 1989). Luck plays a card on how long your washing machine lasts, so does handling, frequency, the quality of water and the products you use. However there's no doubt that a budget machine needs a much bigger lucky card than a premium one. Does this justify the price difference? Only if you can afford it. When I had to buy I bought Indesit, treated it like a lady and in return she never failed. This Miele I have has no ECO program so it is a big spender, but it does the job like the first day and I am fairly sure that "it" will be there, still running, whilst I am being buried six feet under.

My indesit actually it was my mothers until she died in 93 lasted me until 2018 and the during all of those years the only part that stopped working was the door lock. In 2018 it started leaking so I bought a Samsung as a replacement.

When choosing a machine though, it is also important to know which machines are more durable. Indesit machines on average, don't last very long with average household use. Most indesit machines will last 2-3 years at best. Whereas Miele machines are designed to last much longer, and generally have a longer warranty than budget brands. But I suppose you could buy Three indesit machines almost, for the price of One Miele machine. However, that means that there is more waste going to landfill, if you have to buy a new machine more frequently. So there is much more to think about when choosing a machine, besides wash performance and energy efficiency alone. Some people may also need to consider the noise level of their chosen machine.

I don't think there is much difference how well either of these machines wash. The big question is rather how long they will last and how much service they need to keep them going for so long. Our last Siemens lasted 8 years and needed a new motor after its first 4 years. We let it die painlessly after its electromechanical programming went and a repair would have cost half of a new machine. After that we got a Miele which lasted 16 years of every day washing (normal with two kids) without a single problem. We've had our second Miele 4 years now and I'm pretty sure it will last as long as the first Miele.

Worst thing about Indesit machines are cheap bearings, had the bearings fail on an Indesit that wasn't even 12 months old!

Our Miele ran 10 years without any problem. Then out of the blue the electronics mainboard had a failure. Fixing it would approximately cost €450-€550. Therefore we bought a new Siemens machine with a five year warranty. Miele has a standard warranty of two years, but you can buy 3 year extra. In the past you could buy 8 years extra so that you had 10 years in total.

After owning cheap appliances for years (Hotpoint & Indesit) I pushed the boat out and went for Miele. The control panel blew up after 7 years of light use, rendering the washer non-functional. Luckily I bought a secondhand panel from ebay and that got it working. It would not have been cost-effective to have paid someone else to repair it. When I repaired it, I was impressed with the design and construction of the Miele, it was far superior when compared to the cheaper brands that I had repaired in the past. However I was disappointed that it had failed after only 7 years.

Ok I am a bit a sob when it comes to washing machine I always go mid range like at min I got a hoover h wash 500 11 kg what Just come up to 3 year old and it work so well it be worked hard with my last job were the washing machine broke I washing 3 load of commercial kitchen tea towels in it but nower day it dose about 4 load a week just me and mother maybe my nephew clothes every so often I don’t use many programs on it mainly the cotton at 60c and the quick wash at 40c it work so well

I was always assured by a retired white goods repair guy that Zanussi or John Lewis own brand were the best cheapies, based upon how many repairs he got for them vs others... My experience with Zanussi has been very good - they seem to last a long time (6+ years), but I am a light user (2 washes a week maximum). I read that many of these cheaper machines are basically the same mechanics, but just different front panel design and rebadged/rebranded?

"You buy cheap, you buy twice", as my old granny used to say.

4 years ago I bought a really expensive premium brand washing machine. It broke within 3 months the brand didn't have their own engineers so it took weeks for them to attempt to fix it. When they failed they wanted another 3 weeks. I returned it. Bought a budget brand less than half the price worked perfectly. Oddly bought a heat pump dryer with the same premium brand that broke to. They did fix that though. I won't waste money on a premium brand again. With regards to warranty people need to realise goods need to be fit for purpose and know their statutory consumer rights. Certain high street electrical dealers seem to completely ignore these unless quoted at them. I

I'm sure they're all priced so they work out around the same in the end. My £200 Indesit washing machine broke after 6 years. Didn't bother to fix it so just bought another for £250. If this one lasts 6 years and I have to buy another that also lasts 6 years each then I'm still just about quids in on an £800 Miele that lasts 18 years. Although I'd have thought any washing machine (regardless of brand) lasting 18 years is pretty unlikely in this era of 'cheap tat built cheap'. (Maybe not in my parents' day.)

My washing machine is from the same group as Indesit. Three technicians have been out to see it as it leaks, even though it's 5 months old. EVERY ONE has said that Hotpoint / Whirlpool and Indesit machines are terrible, and they work for them!! Once this one goes, which won't be long, I'm buying Meile or Bosch.

No one puts stained items in a washer without pre-treating them! The test of a washer is how long it lasts and parts & service availability. Replacing an appliance is not just the cost of the item it is all the hassle you go through, shipping, delivery, removing and disposing of the old appliance, your time etc. Most major appliance brands are being built to cost points, not longevity. Buy cheap and you’ll pay for it in spades later.

Bought a 10kg Beko 5 years ago for about £300. Still going strong!

Had both. Had an indesit first and in the end I decided to call it the Indeshit and bought a miele.

Hmmmm, you seem to have overlooked the durability of the Miele. I would be pretty confident the Miele would perform flawkessly for 10+ years. Not sure i would have the same level of confidence in the Indiset.

I had a brilliant Slovenian gorenje which lasted for 15 years when a large plastic comb accidentaly got in the drum and basically destroyed it. Now I have a Beko washer dryer and it had to be serviced 3 times in 2 years. When warranty expires I will throw it away asap.

You forgot to add that the Miele has a full stainless steel drum, cast iron counter weights. Miele also make all the electronics and motors/pumps in house

I would say that it’s probably better to spend more for the best you can afford,the build and design matter too. A quality machine will be designed to work well in all areas, a budget machine will not be so efficient. The amount of water removed prior to drying is probably going to depend on the cycle but you don’t want to spend time and money to dry stuff for longer when an efficient design would extract more water. If you have a friend that has a Which? subscription ask them to check out stuff for you. A washing machine can be a significant investment but cutting corners might be a false economy. The same with a tumble dryer too. Do a little research and see what will work for you, it will in the end pay off as it were.

Our Miele lasted about 25 years and the tumble dryer over 30 years so far with no service visits

I have a Zannusi, used daily since 1988, when it dies, its going in a glass case in the living room.

If the cheap one breaks down and needs replacing the cost over a similar time period could be more. However, 4 hours to do a wash cycle? Wow, I do mine in just over an hour.

What isn't shown is how long the machines last... it's not just the cost right now you pay now, its the cost of replacement that isn't factored in on the budget brand. You'll likely have to replace the cheaper unit well before the Miele. I have a 20 year old Miele vacuum that works perfectly

My mother had a Miele washing machine that lasted 15 years. She then bought a cheap Italian model, which broke down exactly 1 month after the warranty expired. If you look at the bearings of the cheap washing machines, you quickly realize that the cheap plastic bearings don't last long.

Our Miele washer/drier has served us well for 25 years now, as has our Miele dishwasher, both in daily use. Just one minor repair out of warranty - the independent repair chap said he has only Miele units in his own house - as they’re simply the most reliable machines out there, and will last a lifetime…. Buying cheap can be a false economy.

3:40 ... Umm are we skipping the fact you plugged 2 high load appliances into a "wound" extension lead with what seems to be a 13Amp max load? Seriously!!! Well done on teaching joe public what NOT to do!

"What he doesn't know about washing machines isn't worth knowing" Quite happy with both machines plugged into an almost fully wound 13A extension lead.

Depends how long the machine lasts. Cheapest can be a false economy if it breaks down every couple of years and Indesit machines don't have a good reliability reputation.

If the Miele lasts 3 times as long its a draw, other than that what's the point? Can the program investigate service-life for machines? I'd happily pay 3 times the price from one machine to the next if I knew the expensive one would last a 3x + longer in service. Day 1 price is just one factor.

I've been using a budget Indesit washing machine for 13 years and I don't have any problems. In general, I don't like crammed washing machines with electronics, sensors, sensors and I still don't know what! The only task of the washing machine is to wash!

Curiously my BEKO, purchased from John Lewis just over 7 years ago for £185, plus a free 5 year JL warranty, has been just the perfect purchase. I took a punt on the premise that ultra cheap, bottom of the range, might just work. It has repaid me many many times over. One doesn’t need to spend £1000 plus on a brand ‘name’.

Indesit Company has eight production sites, of which three are in Italy (Fabriano, Comunanza and Caserta), and five are abroad (two in Poland, one in the UK, one in Russia and one in Turkey) counting 16 thousand employees. Since 2014 the majority of the company is owned by the American company Whirlpool. In 2017, police investigation pointed to an Indesit made Hotpoint fridge freezer, model FF175BP of 2006-2009 (discontinued since then), caused the Grenfell Tower fire. Miele is a German manufacturer of high-end domestic appliances and commercial equipment, headquartered in Gütersloh, Ostwestfalen-Lippe.

The miele also has cycles in the app!

What is the average life span of each machine ?

I’m confused how wash results indicate value for money. Our machine is being used well over 200 days a year and the Bosch machines I’ve had in the past never get beyond 10y, Miele are designed to last for 20y and doubt the indeset will get beyond 6, do the maths?

Ask the owner of the laundry which machine he would choose, and I’ll bet it would be the Miele. If you try and move one you can feel the weight in it. Ours on a spin cycle is quiet and vibration free, and tested for 000’s of cycles. Although I’m not a fan of digital touch screen controls, as it’s more electronics that can go wrong.

But what about the wear and tear of the machine. Miele stands for a very long lifecycle. The Dutch consumersorganisation estimated it on around 25 years, where the competition had for most machines 15 years and Samsung 19 years. Also the wear and tear of the textiles. The Miele has a honeycomb patern which takes care of the textiles. There is more to it then these tests. But I have to admit, before anyone says something about it, I am a Miele fan. I have a Wash and Dry, almost the same model and it is the best machine I ever head. One downsite, it is so silent that I sometimes forget that I am washing something.

still taking the miele for the quality

I keep hearing recently in the USA, Miele isn't the same as before with quality and service. They've both slipped.

reliability, longevity and ability to easily repair is important here.

Indesit are bottom of the barrel from personal experience. Would have been interesting to see how a Beko would stand up in comparrision as from personal experience I am yet to have one of their appliances break (and thats into 10+ years ownership!)

My Indesit washes 2-3 times a week. I bought it in 1999, still working without repairing.