For Coiling Arborist rope, or any rope, for that matter. Also works well with electrical cords and hose. Sorry for the background noise, no quiet places anymore.
Love your slow paced, methodical demonstration and great camera work. Made this tutorial very easy to follow unlike many others I've watched. Successfully coiled my first rope! Thank you
I want to sincerely thank the author of the video for the perfect technique for teaching the craft of tying a climbing (arborist) rope into a very convenient rope bay! Bravo! Bravo!! Bravo!!! 👍
Somewhat along this line here, I think throughout life I've spent half of my shop time coiling and uncoiling the same 50 feet of air hose, or so it felt like. Then one day something happened I should have done years before but always put it off. Got a hose reel. Life is better now. One day I'll master the cords and ropes thanks to Guys that put it out here. Bad habits are a real time taker.
That was an excellent demo video. To the point, well spoken and clear! Thank you. I have been fighting with my 100’ boat anchor line for a year and now have a fix for it!!!
When I saw the old guy my age, I stopped to watch !! Thank you very much. Love the truck. As an old tower dog, love to find tips and tricks; see how other professions do their job easier.
Very clear! Which is tough when explaining ropes and knots! What I wonder is how you manage with the ends...they are not 'stowed' away neatly with this method
Your explaination reminds me of a 2nd Class Boatswain Mate I worked for as a very young deck force sailor way back in the ancient times. Thanks for sharing and your service.
Sir you read the play! I thought I was going to catch you off guard with my pre climb rodeo rope flip tradition but nevermind! Nice work! I'll be trying this.
Terrific video. (What annoys me to no end is three years ago I was looking for this exact information on RU-vid, and it took them all this time to finally add it to the list they send me. All the videos I found was someone doing it correctly but too fast to make sure what the method was.) I love your demonstration. I used to 'coil' it up with full size coils and then toss the end to demonstrate hockles (kinks) and a clean pay out. I've sailed with guys far more experienced than I am who make big pretty loops and end up with hockles everywhere. Even with a demonstration it's like they just don't want to change. I shrugged. Your boat, your method. On one of the hockle boats they really didn't get in the way too much... but they could have. You know as an arborist as I know as a sailor ropes are our business and our safety.
People that don't slow down and actually teach, are probably just trying to let us know how wonderful they are. This is a well thought out video, and the whole game of climbing is based on clear thinking.
For decades now, I've been using a method that works the same as what you show here and it is every bit as easy. For the first loop I use the same coiling technique that you showed, "coming in and going past your hand" as you described it, but for whatever reason, the loop formed is a circle. Then, for the next loop I grab the next section of rope with my feeding hand turned inside-out (or backhanded), and then lay the rope into the next loop by the exact same method as before. This imparts an opposite twist to that loop. The result is that the second loop looks exactly the same as the first, except that the tail-out portion of the loop is behind the feed-in portion, which is backward from the structure of the first loop. By alternating the "grab position" of my feeding hand, I alternate the feeding method for successive loops, creating an alternating series of "right-side out" and inside-out" loops. When it's done, it's a perfect series of circular loops, all coiled in the same direction, so it looks like it should contain twist and be a mess when it is pulled apart. But since every second loop is inside-out, the twist is completely cancelled (the same as within every one of your figure-eights), and the rope is completely without twist when pulled apart. No one ever showed me this method, but the need for it became obvious to me when I was a kid and I've been doing it that way ever since. I've always secured the completed coil with exactly the same method as what you showed here. For my whole life, I have absolutely cringed every time I see someone coiling a rope, extension cord, or garden hose in "the usual way", and I can't figure out why they don't understand what a twisted mess they are creating and that such twist is so easily avoided (the same as I figured out at about the age of 12). By the way, I love your truck. IHC trucks are my favorite, but we don't have them here anymore, since almost all trucks (of every brand) from those days have long since been devoured by road salt.
If you do that last king's head bit on a bight instead of the bitter end, you'll end up with adjustable backpack straps. Maybe not a concern for tree climbers. Handy as heck for climbers.
72! 1310 Series One Ton. Very rare indeed. 345 V8. 4 spd on the floor. New Process 205 Transfer case. Dump with PTO Hydraulic pump. Very slow tho, extremely low geared.
If you have a rope that isn’t quiet as relaxed as the one in this video, an trick to coax it into the figure 8 shape is to ‘hop’ it with your hand that isn’t holding the main bundle, with your ‘feeding’ hand just make a gentle whipping motion like you would to crack a whip but very gently and it tends to make a firmer rope go into position. The thrust with your hand pushes the bottom of the 8 into place and the down force of the whipping motion gives the rest of the slack you are feeding enough time to fall into your hand before the bottom spins back around and at that point the rope is resting on the previous wraps and stays in place…..if that makes sense
Ok, well, show me the better way to coil a rope.?? The problem I've had with the Butterfly coil is it gets tangled easy and doesn't pay out that smooth. The super long coils are good for super long rope, but really tangle up when throwing an end off a cliff. (my experience). The method I am showing here is more for Arborists rather than Rock climbers or alpine mountaineers.
It all depends on what you are using it for. Boats, Rock climbing, Tree work,,,all different. The cheap rope at your hardware store is not that cheap I get better rope from professional distributors. My favorite for tree work is Samson brand. Braid on braid style. Samson Stable Braid. Very good all around rope for outdoor tree work. Great swing rope too.
What's the difference in Arborist versus Rock Climbing Rope? Rock Climbing comes in Dynamic (stretches) for people falling and Static (non stretching) for Rescue Litters and for hauling Gear Bags.
Material and construction are the same. Arborists use larger diameter rope (1/2-5/8 both dynamic and static) due to high loading and abrasion that can be encountered when working with trees. Rock climbing rope, dynamic or static, is typically 7/16 (11mm). Climber's rope only needs to withstand abrasion and handle the forces of a falling climber. Forces generated in a non-fatal climber's fall are far less than forces often created in tree work.
Rock Climbing rope is usually much lighter, it is also constructed differently, it is usually also smaller in diameter. Most tree climbers are using 12 to 13 mm rope. (1/2") ,,,,,and most rock climbers are using 9 to 11 mm rope, with 10mm very popular nowdays. Rock climbing rope uses a 'Kern Mantle' ( Core & Jacket) construction, where the Core is Nylon and the Jacket is Polyester. Nylon has high tensile strength but it is not very ABRASION resistant, meaning it can be cut easier. Whereas Polyester,,,which is only slightly less Tensile strength has Way Way more Abrasion Resistance,,,in other words, it's way TOUGHER, but heavier. And most Arborist Ropes are made with 100% Polyester, it is a tough, UV resistant, chemical resistant, heat resistant and abrasion resistant fiber. Rock climbing ropes only use a thin jacket of Polyester woven fibers over the light nylon core to protect it from getting cut. This hybrid design gives you a very light and durable rope,,(to a degree, like until something cuts through that thin polyester jacket.) Well,,,there is a lot to rope science,,I could go on forever,,,I'll just stop here. I should make a video about it.
A great variation for long drop cords... first double the cord so the ends are together. Then coil, starting from the doubled ends. After securing the finished coil with the larks head, you'll have a convenient loop for hanging the coil in storage. Also, doubling cuts your coiling time in half.
Good demonstration. Nothing special about arborist rope, the key point is that you don’t coil double braided line the same way you do three strand laid line. Aside from that you want to make modifications depending on the length or diameter to how large the coils are and how you tie it at the end.
#OverUnder works much better tbh, just look it up, really 🎉 Because you'll have a nice round formation at the end with the described figure 8, too. But the "lower turns" of the eight will be folded upwards after every round.
yeah, I do over under for really short ropes, or really stiff material. Sometimes I do over under for hoses. But for this application, I like the 8 method the best because it creates a hour glass shape that is nice for wrapping the finish up wraps with larks head finish.
My husband has had his tree rope since the late nineties hes got it in our back room and it's a fucking mess... I love the man but where the F does he think hes gonna climb hes gonna climb hes 53 years old hes an IT architect now what the F that's sitting back on a big mess I tried to do what you showed me hes got it so fucked up I can't even go halfway
Why the f do you use the f-word so f-ing much when commenting in a f-ing public forum? And why the f don't you use proper capitalization and punctuation so folks can figure out what the f you are trying to say? 😂😂😂
You can also flake it into a container , or a bag.,,,,watch my video on how to flake a rope...ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-PvkwiNMJN6Y.htmlsi=SIfV_4ER5bKnrjJm
