Betaflight Perfect PID Tune by UAVTech (the best Betaflight has ever flown)

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Mark Spatz (UAV Tech) is one of the best at PID Tuning and Blackbox log analysis. I sent him a quad that I PID tuned and asked him to see if he could make it better. Spoiler: he did. I'm not kidding when I say this is the best Betaflight has ever flown for me.
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0:00 - Intro
1:48 - Flying Mark's PID tune
4:14 - Flying my PID tune
6:43 - Interview with Mark

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24 июл 2024

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@FattyFPV 3 года назад

0:54 We just gonna ignore the fact the dog carried a log into the house?

@argyleskyfpv461 3 года назад

🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂 thats what Mark Spatz was really up to . . .dog training🤣🤣🤣🤣

@jamesskellyfu 3 года назад

lol 😂😂 didn’t even notice

@Rene200Y 3 года назад

So thats what he means with Blackbox LOGging 😅

@DimitrisKavallaris 3 года назад

At first glance thought it was a huge snake, so log is better I guess :P

@lcarus42 3 года назад

Telling Josh its time to bring in some wood, its cold!

@jana171 3 года назад

Just love that collab you're doing here JB, it's simply awesome !

@starsstripesjacket 3 года назад

Two great minds coming together, love it!

@MrSmithersFPV 3 года назад

this was a dream come true! my two favorite fpv youtubers doing a video together!

@brendand.2269 3 года назад

FANTASTIC COLAB!!!!! You’re both so important to our community and well deserving of all good things that happen to you both. Thank you for the endless hours of education

@keaganlindsay7648 3 года назад

The sound was so clear. I can hear the wind passing the props when they are not spinning. so crisp

@DominicanSheik 3 года назад

UAV is a cool smart dude, I like you too JB. You are the guys i check on if I have any issues or concerns.

@rmhfpv9225 3 года назад

I love these tuning collab videos discussing other peoples' tuning ideas. Please do more.

@TitanFPV 3 года назад

I’ve been using Mark’s presets for a bit, and am definitely impressed. Major improvement over stock pids. I’d love to get closer to the limit with a full tune.

@MiniMicroFPV 3 года назад

I love insights and this is full of them. Thanks you two!

@billmcdonald4335 2 года назад

Mark's advice is invaluable. His presets made a huge difference to my craft.

@Rene200Y 3 года назад

Thanks so much for this video! Seeing that there are presets and that the tuning with sliders is relatively easy for noobs finally got me into tuning my quads. They fly so so sooo much better now!!!

@mikeallenfpv 3 года назад

Mark is the man! Love his channel

@mikaelbackstrom 3 года назад

Great fun to see you both in the same video. Thank you. :)

@Rene200Y 3 года назад

Thanks a lot fir thid video! Definitely gonna try out the presets for my quads and maybe tune them further with Mark's guides!

@TheDro 3 года назад

ive been doing actual rates as well and used his method on some of the rest of the tuning settings and it made me feel like such a better pilot instantly. definitely helped with not only control but also smoothing out the twitchyness of being a new pilot

@sunsetpark_fpv 2 года назад

Yeah I totally agree. A few days ago I worked on my rates, and I lowered all three "center sensitivity" parameters to 10, and tuned from there. I changed all of my rates and expo from that starting point, and my quad(s) feel so much better.....my jittery fingers feel so much....more "sure" and in control :)

@NoiseBoysGarage 3 года назад

This adds so much more to just flying . It’s at its highest level .

@gozillasin9934 3 года назад

I threw all my PID settings right after I tried Mark's preset PID. Thx Mark and Joshua!

@lharrobang 3 года назад

Without the research and information you guys provide, many of us would have less than ideal paperweights. Great collaboration.

@greenthumb12 3 года назад

This is just what i needed... Thanks!

@havoc_64 3 года назад

I see you fixed the fence some! Nice work!

@tango_sierra8608 3 года назад

Love the dog casually walking into the house with a fckn tree trunk of a branch 😂😂

@MarkGrob 3 года назад

UAV Tech and JB!! great video

@WEEBER13 3 года назад

Nice flying JB!

@jibbajabba4597 3 года назад

My tuning consists of turning on hypersmooth on the go pro.

@isaaclanier1507 3 года назад

Until the gyro breaks…it’s almost like I’m speaking from recent experience 😂

@ChrisParayno 3 года назад

😆😆

@WindjumbieFPV 2 года назад

So do most RU-vid pilots 🤣

@smgabardo 2 года назад

@@isaaclanier1507 wait, can the gyro break??

@ChirpFPV 2 года назад

my tuning consists of having shaky vids lol

@xtkfpv5306 3 года назад

I can hear a certain crispness to the motors with UACTECH tune that seems a bit softer with the JB tune especially when doing the quick rolls and flips. It also seems like your line was smoother and less dipping and correction required making tight turns and coming out of dives with UAVtechs tune. Good stuff thanks Josh and UAVTECH

@Ptorpong 3 года назад

Thank you so much. I love this content. 👍👍

@ramonsmithnz 3 года назад

Awesome already going to his channel and website!!!! Going to try a preset today then have a play myself later

@princesfpvdrones 3 года назад

This is awesome! I just flew my first 12s quad that UAV tech did a complete tune on. I am now using his rates as I have been only using the default rates. It has really opened my eyes to what is possible!

@Palliative1 3 года назад

Damn, so much snow in Poland right now. Greets mate!

@uavtech 3 года назад

I feel ya (see my video).

@ktmjay9920 3 года назад

Mark is awesome thx JB

@strattonford2557 3 года назад

Love your video ending thing where were in the fridge 😭. Literally describes each one of us

@stockracingclub1414 3 года назад

He does an awesome job showing how to tune

@LoneskyImagingLLC 3 года назад

Mr Bardwell thx for helping me out this week .. The Iflight 85 Dji controller issue .. THEY SENT WRONG RECEIVER WAS THE ISSUE .

@MrSabram07 3 года назад

Stuff like this is when Josh bardwell is so useful

@crazychange5635 3 года назад

I love marks PID Tune I can see that it performs better on the turns, better grip on turns and smooth.

@stewpidazole 3 года назад

You dropped the vids at the same time. Very clever!!

@DadsRCHangar 3 года назад

You are just a hero, made me want to bring quads to the non quad flyers 👊🏻

@0309jasonify 3 года назад

Great informative content 👍🏼

@blissbouwerij4033 3 года назад

Thanks for the intro Joshua. I will Thanks check out the "ballpark pids"

@toddspeck9415 3 года назад

Awesome!

@JoshuaBardwell 3 года назад

Download the CLI dump from this quad at: pastebin.com/9di6Sik5 PID profile 2 is my tune; profile 3 is Mark's tune. Props used were Gemfan 51477 for my tune and HQ 5040 for Mark's tune.

@jimreynolds8284 Год назад

I have allways done that and it works

@jonithenjackson5521 3 года назад

Yes, excellent

@AntonyBailey77 3 года назад

Super interesting thanks!

@Jamesn-js1zp 3 года назад

I'm no tuner in any way but ever since I started using Marks presets on all my quads it's the best they've flown.

@JohnSaginario 3 года назад

where do you find his presets?

@_.kvng.ky_1081 3 года назад

@@JohnSaginario UAVTech website

@chrishiggins7475 3 года назад

Mark and Krunked are the best. Put the time in and its worth it 👌

@tehllama42 3 года назад

This, x11-ty billion. I have the ability to tune the same way, and I still just toss their tunes on half my builds because I just want it to work well enough

@itaysteklov1241 3 года назад

I really think you should do a reupload for the tunning class but this time do it with mark

@tehllama42 3 года назад

I think a live stream where @UAVTech is tuning a quad while talking over what he's doing interview style with @Joshua Bardwell would be brilliant, especially since they can both answer questions related to what's going on, and field some questions from the chat and both patreon sources at the same time.

@halucinerify 3 года назад

Joshua- I was trying to understand the PIDS badly.. with very little success on start, THEN I started tuning rates on my whoop... The difference in flight is amazing- from wobbly awkward flying to responsive, smooth, accurate just with some rates changes. If I try to estimate the precision it will be like.. 80-90 cm gap to 10-15 cm gap Weather is not too good since then so the 5 inch is waiting for its new era of rates enlightenment! Could not wait to see how it flies on that! maybe in some of the future videos would be good to show the beginners/ intermediate pilots how much could they benefit from from the better RATES setup everywhere I see PID, PID, PID setup.. but the rates are making the difference from stock even more from my point of view

@mouseFPV 3 года назад

Marks website is amazing

@MCsCreations 3 года назад

Really, really interesting!!! Thanks a lot, Joshua! 😃 Stay safe there with your family! 🖖😊

$@fractalengineering$

@fractalengineering 3 года назад

I've had lot of luch with emuflight tbh; I'm not one to spend time tuning but most of my 3 inchers fly just fine to me right off the box

@SmudgeFPV 3 года назад

Mark's tune not soft like you, too much sharp like a racing. i love your tune

@BikeGuyFPV 3 года назад

UAV Tech is awesome

@kcpab 3 года назад

JB, we need your crash vids. hahaha

@tehllama42 3 года назад

Sorry @Joshua Bardwell, the lower FF response isn't actually smoothing in the mathematical sense, but is simply dialing back the contribution of Feedforward to make the stick response sharper. That effect observed is generally correct, but it's very unlike filtering, and you actually can add filtering AND feedfoward to get very precise response while having incredibly smooth results.

@flo-ridafpv5713 3 года назад

Truth...high ffwd makes footy looks like garbage IMO without hypersmooth...flies like the 90s lol

@LilRockFPV 3 года назад

Hello JB, great video as always we learn a lot, I have a 6s quad with this setup: vega gravity 5 '' frame, t-motor f7 hd esc 55a stack and 2207 1950kv blackbird v2 motor, t motor 5143s props. Can I apply the same betaflight setup on my quad ? Thanks

@manski209 3 года назад

Its gonna be a while before i start tuning to perfection, just trying to get good at flying with my Diatone Roma 5 which is tuned pretty good from stock.

@MrSabram07 3 года назад

Yeah I just can't understand these pif tuning things. Right now I don't want to learn but I would like to find, I don't know certain ways to just put in existing numbers from other people. Or something like that

@gmivisualsjason3729 3 года назад

Brilliant

@flappybird_fpv8370 3 года назад

Would love some emu tuning videos/challenges

@CarbonGlassMan 3 года назад

I'm still flying on stock PIDs and just setting my rates. My hope is that when I can say I'm a good pilot, then learn to tune, I'll think I'm an amazing pilot.

@tehllama42 3 года назад

As soon as you feel that's deficient, try the Krunked preset, odds are it'll blow your mind slightly

@flo-ridafpv5713 3 года назад

Fyi stock pids are for a ultralight 6s racing rig...not freestyle, just try a few UAV tech presets from his website...save ur stock diff 1st tho

@remizik 3 года назад

@@tehllama42 can you elaborate please ? :)

@rippafpv4615 3 года назад

@@tehllama42 Whats the Krunked preset and how do I get it hehe?

@dos4gwexe 3 года назад

@@rippafpv4615 I assume he's talking about this. I'm interested in trying it now github.com/betaflight/betaflight/wiki/Community-Presets

@dodgydamosfpv9734 3 года назад

nice one happy flying all :)

@edouardmalot51 3 года назад

Great answer Mark ! Betaflight with default can't be compare to Emu, RaceFlight... because BF have conservative default value (not focused on 5'' racer)

@BogHopperFPV 3 года назад

Tuned to the max in winter - will this tune be ok in summer too?

@dofpvkorea_dk193 3 года назад

Please help me. tango2 The key value fluctuates even if you continue to set calibration. Is there a way to stabilize him? Drone fluctuates in beta-flight receiver settings.

@borbon1bufon 3 года назад

Krunked does pretty good too , my 7" flies like silk now

@drc022800 3 года назад

Lol after he fucking yells at you for not understanding anything

@princesfpvdrones 3 года назад

I have two 7" quads with him now. Can't wait for the results.

@tehllama42 3 года назад

@@drc022800 I mean, you're not wrong, but the tune is correct, and there are other people to get the explanation from. If you don't actually follow the instructions, don't expect the best results, but I can always backfill the explanations to help

@devilfpv6085 3 года назад

Off the subject lol but I have aomway commander v2 been using them for awhile now but having issues. Should I get pair of them orcas? Or ski goggles?

@RYVENANT 3 года назад

Such weird timing, I was just watching a video he did on how to PID with the sliders. Just finished his plasmatree analyzer video too. Did it, and it's def better than stock tune so far!

@cchance 3 года назад

What’s your thoughts on Emu vs Betaflight? I’m running emuflight and playing with a setup from pmb on a whoop and was just wondering what which is really better

@ratititat-rcflyer5139 3 года назад

Any thoughts on trying Rev32.7.4 Variable PWM frequency testcode

@erlandfpv 3 года назад

Hi JB, did you ever think, to... send the quad to mr.steele ? Mr.steele already fly a RTF i flight before lets mr.steele feels the very fine tuning? Maybe in the future, Betaflight just same as KISS, thanks.

@MrAlvits 3 года назад

Sir jB is my flywoohex can I setup PID TUNING when I up the truttle slowly it was going back in slowly I connot fix my drone steady I'm newbie for this hubby drone

@alexey_gamov 3 года назад

Can i apply this pids to nazgul5? or need some correction?

@TheMadmacs 3 года назад

i gotta move up to 4.2 soon, 3.5.7's been good to me, anybody ever get that thing with feedforward were it feels telepathic? like it corrects a sloppy hasty roll into a perfectly timed and exited roll you meant to do but know you messed up a little?

@MrStevegibb 3 года назад

setpoint weight and feedforward have always seemed to improve stops and starts of rolls for me.

@sedhendo4177 Год назад

What should be set first. Rates or PID tune

@baggszilla 3 года назад

theuavtech.com is now my new Google homepage.

@TopCrinkly68 3 года назад

I just fucking love it👌!!

@xplode225 Год назад

Can I put this on my Cine whoop protek35.

@MrAlvits 3 года назад

can you please send me the link your video if you have recumment for settings thanks

@glitchunicorn 3 года назад

Mark's tune seems a lot smoother.

@DarrenAllatt 3 года назад

What is the PID settings for this?

@Logan-kh8bi 3 года назад

3:51 me too JB

@williamhalford9851 3 года назад

Any chance you could do a tune review on the emax tinyhawk2 please buddy love from australia

@JoshuaBardwell 3 года назад

Try the uav tech preset.

@chrisburke63 3 года назад

Man I'd love to see how both of these tunes handle crashes/busted up props. Wonder if Mr. UAV Tech's tune would be closer to burning up a motor since it seems closer to the limit

@uavtech 3 года назад

RPM filter and Dynamic Notch to the rescue! They are still active and doing there magic.

@chrisburke63 3 года назад

@@uavtech Super interesting. That was the only thing holding me back from trying this kind of tune on my quad. Guess I should try it on some beat up props and see how it goes... Thanks for the info!

@bonggon 3 года назад

How does it fly compared to Mr Steele's Apex?

@patriciascheer6531 3 года назад

Hi JB, can you write, which props you used in this tune?

@JoshuaBardwell 3 года назад

Gemfan 51477

@tomassliauteris884 3 года назад

Mark tune i like more. it loks sharper on image too.

@brapler 3 года назад

There is another concern:the power consumption,And I think JB will win.

@Burnsideboogz 2 года назад

I need a preset for my quad with motors 2207-2755 motors!!

@fpvcrewnrw407 2 года назад

Good morning Josh ... have a question about the custom PID settings from Mark... don't the notors etc break when these sliders are so far in the red area? I'm still a beginner and just looking for good settings where I fly fast but if I want to slow down if the action cam is mounted on my copter ... can you recommend something to me ??? Keep up the cool videos ... greetings from Germany 🇩🇪

@JoshuaBardwell 2 года назад

Most good quality modern builds can run into the red without problem. You hBe to know what to look for as signs you're about to smoke a motor. Hot motors are the biggest sign.

@fpvcrewnrw407 2 года назад

@@JoshuaBardwell Do you have good PID's for me for a Beginner?

@JoshuaBardwell 2 года назад

The default PIDs are fine for a beginner. At the beginning, it's your skill that holds you back, not the quad's tune. Once you get more intermediate level with your piloting, you may begin to notice the difference with a better tune. If you want to try Mark's recommendations, they are also pretty safe, mostly. But anything more specific would be specific to your quad, and a stranger on the Internet can't give you recommended PIDs like that without knowing more about your quad.

@fpvcrewnrw407 2 года назад

@@JoshuaBardwell Ok thx ✌🏽

@rayworksvlog Год назад

what model or brand name of google he use?

@soothsayerfpv6835 Год назад

Are these universal? I have a nazgul6S v1 that is an F4. I’m on betaflight 4.3 and I almost just cooked my motors on one of the 5” presets. Not really understanding. I tried UAVtechs presets and the quad was flying very crappy. The FC is BetaflightF4 STM32405. Are some of these pid tunes incapable with fairly older drones?

@JoshuaBardwell Год назад

Yes definitely. You can't assume they're universal although any preset should be somewhat general.

@picknoname3425 3 года назад

What goggle youre using?

@Yaakov444 3 года назад

Why dont you use the Sharkbyte?

@smooth_ops2942 3 года назад

"I'm really trying to jerk it around".... I did the same last night... Hell yeah Brother!!!!

@noobFPV 3 года назад

So, as the quad loses performance over time ( bend a prop a little, take a hit here and there ), what happens with that tune ?

@uavtech 3 года назад

It stay the same. RPM filter and Dynamic Notch FTW!

@Stanton_High 3 года назад

bardwell doesnt tune with blackbox??

@NathansLife 3 года назад

we need an application where we upload our blackbox data and get a pid tune out of that optimized.

@slowentropy4531 3 года назад

That would be the dream hey. Most of us don't have the time to be tunning to endth degree.

@NathansLife 3 года назад

@@slowentropy4531 exactly, imagine how nice that would be if it can collect all data from it and turn it into a good tune, drl sim has this type of programming in it, it can automatically tune your quad by making it have prop wash and throwing it in all directions to help with prop wash, I guess heat will be one other thing to take into consideration though.

@tehllama42 3 года назад

If it was as easy as you'd think, we'd have it already. If it was remotely easy, we'd have it already.

@NathansLife 3 года назад

@@tehllama42 totally agreed, the code to do all that to try to minimise noise, and try to do multiple things at once has to be insanely complicated, and as I said when you take heat into consideration that will be really hard.

@slowentropy4531 3 года назад

@@tehllama42 I think it would be extremely difficult haha. But the biggest money to made in the hobbie is making things easier and more accessible to people. If you can make it easier you'll bring more people in, especially casual flyers that prefer the spend $$ over putting time in but still want good results. Pretty much the opposite of what most of us do as hobbyist, we'll put so many hours to save any money haha.